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AND I WILL CALL OUR GOVERNANCE
[1. Opening Statement]
AND PRIORITIES COMMITTEE MEETING FOR WEDNESDAY, APRIL 15TH, 2026 TO ORDER.WE HAD THE OPENING STATEMENT RED AT OUR SPECIAL COUNCIL
[2. Approval of the agenda.]
MEETING, SO WE'LL MOVE TO APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.MR. VAN DINE, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE AGENDA? NOTHING ELSE TO ADD, MR. CHAIR.
[3. Disclosure of conflict of interest and the general nature thereof. ]
NEXT, WE HAVE DISCLOSURE OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND THE GENERAL NATURE THEREOF.IS THERE ANY CONFLICT BEFORE COUNCIL TODAY? COUNCILLOR PAYNE.
I HAVE A CONFLICT WITH THE HOME BASE PRESENTATION AS I'M ON THE BOARD. RIGHT THANK YOU VERY MUCH
[4. A presentation regarding Home Base Line Drive Outreach Program. ]
NEXT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION REGARDING HOME-BASED LINE DRIVE OUTREACH PROGRAM SO I'LL ASK YOU TO STEP OUT COUNCILLOR PAYNE AND I WILL PASS OVER MR. VAN DINE TO INTRODUCE THE SPEAKER.THANK YOU MR. CHAIR, SO THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE TODAY FROM LINE DRIVE IS A PRESENTATION THAT WAS FIRST PRESENTED AT THE CAB COMMITTEE NOT THAT LONG AGO REFLECTS AN EVALUATION THAT WAS DONE AS PART OF THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE IN THE PROVISION OF THE SERVICE AND THE THIS SERVICE WAS ADAPTED AND ADJUSTED AND THE CONTRACT WAS REFLECTED AS SOME INPUT FROM AN EVALUATION THAT WAS DONE TWO YEARS PRIOR SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE TIMELY AT THIS JUNCTURE GIVEN THIS GIVEN THE INTEREST IN THIS PROGRAM ON ITS SUCCESS SO FAR AND WHERE IT MAY BE GOING.
SO I'M HAPPY TO INTRODUCE TAMMY AND TRACY TO COME FORWARD AND PERHAPS GIVE THE PRESENTATION TODAY FOR COUNCIL.
WHEN YOU START SPEAKING, TAMMY JUST HIT THE, THERE YOU GO.
I THOUGHT ALL THOSE PEOPLE WERE HERE TO SEE ME, AND THEN THEY LAUGHED, BUT ANYWAY.
I'VE DONE THIS BEFORE FOR A FEW PEOPLE, BUT I'M GOING TO MOVE OVER TO A LITTLE QUICKER BECAUSE I THINK EVERYBODY'S HAD A COPY OF IT.
AND TRACY'S HERE TO ANSWER THE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS THAT I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE SHE MANAGES THE PROGRAM.
SO WHAT WE DO IS WE PROVIDE SAFE TRANSPORTATION TO INDIVIDUALS WHO APPEAR TO BE IN DISTRESS OR UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SUBSTANCES AND REQUIRE TRANSPORT TO A SAFE LOCATION.
IN ADDITION TO TRANSPORTATION, THE PROGRAM PROVIDES A FOOT PATROL OUTREACH IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE TO ENGAGE WITH MEMBERS OF THE STREET COMMUNITY, DISTRIBUTE FOOD, SNACKS, CLOTHING AND HARM REDUCTION.
OUR OBJECTIVES, WE'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR FROM THE VERY BEGINNING WHAT THE OBJECTIVES ARE TO ENSURE PUBLIC SAFETY, TO SUPPORT VULNERABLE POPULATIONS, REDUCE STRAIN ON EMERGENCY SERVICES, PROMOTE COMMUNITY WELLNESS AND COLLABORATE WITH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS.
THE HOURS OF OPERATION, YOU SEE WE HAVE TWO VEHICLES OUT.
WE SWITCH THEM UP DEPENDING ON THE ROAD CONDITIONS.
SO WE'RE OUT DRIVING FROM 10 A.M. TO 3 A.M.
DAILY, AND FOOT PATROL IS DOWNTOWN FROM 1 P.M.
OUR TEAM, MYSELF, TRACY MERCER IS THE MANAGER OF THE PROGRAM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM BEHIND US, WHICH IS OUR HUMAN RESOURCE COORDINATOR.
PART-TIME TRAINING ASSISTANT, EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT, AND FINANCE COORDINATOR TO SUPPORT US WITH OUR SIX FULL-TIME STAFF, ONE PART-TIME STAFF, AND 25 CASUAL STAFF THAT WE HAVE FOUR OF OUR STAFF SELF-IDENTIFY AS BEING INDIGENOUS.
SO WE STARTED THE PROJECT IN APRIL.
IT WAS A VERY QUICK TURNAROUND AND WE WEREN'T ON THE ROAD FOR THE MONTH OF APRIL.
WE WERE HIRING, INTERVIEWING, SECURING VEHICLES.
TO TRY AND GET THINGS ON THE ROAD AS QUICK AS WE COULD.
WE STARTED MAY ON THE GROUND AND FULLY STAFFED.
WE STARTED REACHING OUT TO BUSINESSES AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS.
MAY, JULY, WE FOCUSED MORE ON COMMUNITY OUTREACH, ADVERTISING, AND LOOKING FOR DONATIONS.
AND THEN FROM MAY TO OUR CURRENT TIME WHEN I DID THIS PRESENTATION, WE STUCK TO OUR GUNS AND STAYED WITH OUR OBJECTIVES, TRYING TO BE VERY CLEAR WITH THE COMMUNITY AS TO WHAT THE PROGRAM WAS ABOUT, BECAUSE IT APPEARED THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING WITHIN THE PROGRAM THAT WE WEREN'T FOCUSING ON.
SO TODAY WE HAVE A FULLY FUNCTIONING PROGRAM, FULLY STAFFED, AND WE WERE JUST AWARDED THREE YEARS TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE PROGRAM.
SO WE DID FOLLOW THE PROGRAM IMPLEMENTATION EVALUATION THAT WAS DONE BY TRIAGE AND THAT EVALUATION WAS DONE PRIOR TO US BEING INVOLVED IN 2024 AND IT WAS THE STREET OUTREACH MONITORING AND VALUATION FRAMEWORK AND WE LOOKED AT THAT BEFORE WE STARTED OUR
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PROPOSAL LAST YEAR.WHEN WE REACHED OUT TO THEM TO HELP US WITH THE EVALUATION, THEY WERE REALLY GREAT AT HELPING US AND FOLLOWING THROUGH.
AND WE LOOKED AT A PLAN ON HOW WE WERE GOING TO DO IT.
WE ENDED UP PROVIDING THEM WITH A BUNCH OF DATA THAT WE HAD FROM HOMEBASE, INCLUDING DAILY CLIENT TRANSPORTATION LOGS, FOOT PATROL SHIFT REPORTS, INCIDENT REPORTS.
VEHICLE MAINTENANCE RECORDS, POLICY AND PROGRAM MANUALS, STAFFING DATA, TRAINING MATERIALS, SAFETY PROCEDURES, STAFF MEETING NOTES, AND INFORMATION ON ADVERTISING AND PROMOTION.
AND THEN WHAT THEY DID IS THEY MET WITH KEY STAKEHOLDERS, WHICH INCLUDED 19 CLIENTS AT THE DAY SHELTER, FIVE STAFF AND THE MANAGER FROM THE DAY SHELTER, FOUR STAFF AT THE SOBERING CENTER, ONE STAFF AT THE SALVATION ARMY MEN'S SHELTER, TWO OFFICERS FROM THE RCMP, THREE CLINICAL AND TWO SECURITY STAFF AT STANTON EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT, FIVE LOCAL BUSINESSES, AND WITH THE LINE DRIVE STAFF, THEY SPOKE WITH THREE MANAGEMENT AND SEVEN FRONTLINE STAFF.
SO A PRETTY GOOD ARRAY OF PEOPLE TO DO THE EVALUATION.
THERE WERE MANY RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE FRAMEWORK, AND THE ONES THAT WERE PULLED OUT THAT WE FOCUSED ON ARE LISTED HERE.
AND 2.1, ENSURE RELIABLE TRANSPORTATION FOR CLIENTS THROUGH REGULAR VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AND ACCESS TO A SECOND VEHICLE.
2.2, ENHANCE PROGRAM HOURS FROM 12 P.M. TO 12 A.M.
AND ADJUST SHIFT CHANGE HOURS SO THEY DO NOT OVERLAP WITH THE HIGH CALL, WHICH IS BETWEEN 2 AND 6 P.M.
WE EXCEEDED THAT WITH THE EXTENSION OF THE HOURS.
2.3, INCREASE AWARENESS OF PROGRAMS MANDATE.
2.4, ENSURE STAFF AND VEHICLE ARE RECOGNIZABLE.
AND I THINK ANYBODY WHO DRIVES AROUND SEES IT REALLY STANDS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
2.5, ENSURE ONGOING DATA COLLECTION, DATA SHARING, AND PROGRAM EVALUATION.
2.6, INCREASE STAFF TRAINING IN TERMS OF FIRST AID, DE-ESCALATION, TRAUMA-INFORMED PRACTICE.
THE COMMENT THAT WE GOT WAS THAT THEY FELT THAT OUR STAFF WERE THE BEST TRAINED STAFF THAT THEY HAD SEEN WORKING IN THE SECTOR.
RECOMMENDATION 2.7, INCREASE STAFF COMPENSATION TO A LIVABLE WAGE TO IMPROVE RETENTION, AND WE MET THAT REQUIREMENT.
2.9, IMPLEMENT CONSISTENT PROGRAM POLICIES ON SERVICE DELIVERY, SAFETY, AND TRAINING.
2.10 ENHANCED THE OUTREACH CAPACITY OF THE PROGRAM BY HIRING A DEDICATED OUTREACH WORKER AND PEER SUPPORT WORKER.
2.11, CREATE FORMAL PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER SOCIAL SERVICES AGENCIES AND GNWT PROGRAMS THAT SERVE FAMILIAR POPULATIONS TO BETTER COORDINATE SERVICES AND IDENTIFY SERVICE GAPS.
WE MET THAT REQUIREMENT, AND THEN 2.12 WAS NOT APPLICABLE.
SO OVERALL, IN THE DATA THAT WAS LOOKED AT WAS OVER A NINE-MONTH PERIOD, SO IT WASN'T A FULL YEAR.
IN THAT TIME, THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 10,055 TRANSPORTATIONS, SO 7,608 CALLS WERE APPROACHED BY THE CLIENT, 1,081 OBSERVED BY STAFF, 233 AND UNKNOWN, 01,133. BY AGE GROUP, THAT TOTAL 10,055 ADULTS, WHICH WE CLASSIFIED AS 24 AND UP, JUST BECAUSE HOME BASE DEALS WITH YOUTH UP TO THE AGE OF 24, WAS 9,545, YOUTH UNDER 24, 188, AND 322 NOT SPECIFIED.
BY MONTHS, YOU'LL SEE MAY TO JANUARY, AND THE NUMBER OF CALLS CHANGED SLIGHTLY, BUT THEY WERE STILL REALLY HIGH AND STUCK AROUND 1,000 A MONTH, OF COURSE INCREASING IN THE COLDER MONTHS.
AND OUR OUTCOMES, SO OUT OF THE 10,055, 9,230 WERE TRANSPORTED.
825 WERE NOT TRANSPORTED, AND THAT COULD BE BECAUSE THE CLIENT REFUSED TO GET IN THE VEHICLE OR THEY WEREN'T THERE WHEN THE STAFF GOT THERE.
THEY MIGHT BE REFUSED BY THE TEAM DUE TO VARIOUS REASONS AND MAYBE MS WAS CALLED OR RCMP WERE CALLED.
THIS IS A FANCY LOOKING GRAPHIC
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THAT SHOWS THE TRANSPORTATION FLOW.ON THE LEFT IS MOSTLY AREAS THAT THEY'RE PICKED UP FROM AND THEN THEY ARE DROPPED OFF AT THE YELLOW ON THE OTHER SIDE.
SO A LOT OF FLOW TO THE SOBERING SPACES AND SHELTERS AND WHATNOT.
MAP OF YELLOWKNIFE SHOWING PICK UP LOCATIONS IN BLUE AND YELLOW IS THE DROP-OFF LOCATIONS.
OUR TOTAL BUDGET FOR THE PROJECT FOR LAST YEAR WAS $950,000, WHICH, OF COURSE, WE SPENT EVERY CENT.
SO THE PART THAT WE'RE MOST PROUD OF IS, OF COURSE, CLIENT FEEDBACK.
THEY TALK TO US LIKE WE ARE FAMILY AND THEY KNOW US.
95% OF THE TIME THEY'RE LAUGHING, SMILING, THEY LISTEN TO ME AND WE LAUGH TOGETHER.
SO OVERALL, THE CLIENTS DID FEEL SAFE IN THE VEHICLE.
SOME MENTIONED THEIR SENSE OF SAFETY CAN DEPEND ON THE OTHER CLIENTS BEING TRANSPORTED, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MAJOR CONCERNS AROUND THAT.
SOME STAFF ARE QUICK TO INTERVENE WHEN FIGHTS OCCUR AND ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE PROACTIVE DE-ESCALATION, AND WE DO WORK A LOT ON DE-ESCALATION IN OUR TRAINING.
CLIENTS SAID THE LATE NIGHT HOURS WERE HELPFUL, NOTING THAT MANY HOURS IS POSSIBLE OR NEEDED TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE.
CLIENTS HAVE A POSITIVE VIEW OF THE FOOT PATROL WHO THEY NOTE KEEP AN EYE ON EVERYONE, INCLUDING THOSE LIVING IN ENCAMPMENTS.
THIS IS SEEN AS VERY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY IN THE WINTERTIME.
OF COURSE THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE CHALLENGES.
SEVERAL CLIENTS EXPRESSED FRUSTRATION WITH THE PRIORITIZATION OF INTOXICATED CLIENTS OVER OTHERS.
CLIENTS DESCRIBED BEING REFUSED A RIDE BECAUSE THEY WERE SOBER, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY HAVE DISABILITIES OR MEDICAL CONDITIONS THAT MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO WALK.
A FEW CLIENTS MENTIONED CHALLENGES WITH PHYSICAL ASPECTS OF THE VAN.
THEY INDICATED THAT NOT ALL SEATBELTS IN THE VAN WERE WORKING.
SEATS WERE ARRANGED IN A WAY THAT MAKES IT HARD TO MOVE AROUND THE VEHICLE, AND IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE VAN SOMETIMES.
WE DO HAVE ALL THE SEATBELTS WORKING.
NOT SURE IF THERE WAS JUST CHALLENGE GETTING THEM DONE UP AND THE SEATS THAT WE HAVE ADDED TO THE VEHICLE ALL GO INTO A TRACK SO YOU CAN'T MOVE THEM AROUND IN THE VEHICLE SO IT'S SET UP THE WAY IT WAS BUILT TO BE SET UP THREE CLIENTS INTERVIEWED REPORTED THAT WHILE THE MAJORITY OF THEIR INTERACTIONS WITH STAFF ARE POLITE AND PROFESSIONAL THEY PREVIOUSLY EXPERIENCED PROBLEMATIC INTERACTIONS WITH ONE OR TWO STAFF IN THESE CASES THE CLIENTS MENTIONED THE STAFF MEMBERS IN QUESTION NO LONGER ARE ARE WORKING FOR THE PROGRAM.
OUR PARTNER FEEDBACK THROUGH STANTON EMERGENCY STAFF, THEY SAID THERE WAS A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH US, CITY RESPONSIVENESS AND INCREASED COLLABORATION, PARTICULARLY IN THE MANAGEMENT LEVEL.
THEY INDICATED SERVICES WERE MORE CONSISTENT AND NOTABLE IMPROVEMENTS IN RESPONSE TIME.
EXTENDED HOURS WERE HIGHLIGHTED AS A MAJOR POSITIVE.
FROM THE RCMP, THEY INDICATED SERVICES WERE MORE CONSISTENT WITH NOTABLE IMPROVEMENTS IN RESPONSE TIME.
THE VAN IS MORE RECOGNIZABLE AND APPEARS TO WORK A WIDER AREA.
RCMP DISPATCHERS WERE RE-DISPATCHING CALLS TO LINE DRIVE OUTREACH, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS REALLY GREAT WHEN THEY WERE CONSIDERED LOW PRIORITY FOR RCMP TO RESPOND TO THEM.
LINE DRIVE OUTREACH CONTRIBUTES TO COMMUNITY SAFETY BY ASSISTING INDIVIDUALS IN DISTRESS.
TRANSPORTING THEM TO SAFE LOCATIONS WHICH CAN HELP REDUCE SITUATIONS THAT MIGHT OTHERWISE ESCALATE OR REQUIRE POLICE RESPONSE.
SHELTER STAFF SAID THE PROGRAM IS RELIABLE AND THAT THE STAFF CONSISTENTLY ANSWER THE PHONE.
THE VAN IS ALWAYS ON THE ROAD DURING SCHEDULED OPERATING HOURS, AND THE ADDITIONAL VEHICLE WAS IMPROVING WITH CAPACITY AND EFFICIENCY.
ALTHOUGH THE FOOT PATROL IS SUPPOSED TO BE ON FOOT WHEN IT'S SUPER COLD IN THE WINTER, WE DID HAVE THE FOOT PATROL USE THE VEHICLE DOWNTOWN.
BETTER COMMUNICATION, PROACTIVELY CHECKING IN ABOUT CLIENTS WHO ARE CURRENTLY RESTRICTED FROM ACCESSING SHELTERS DUE TO BEHAVIORS AND ARRANGING ALTERNATIVE SAFE LOCATIONS INCLUDING LIAISON WITH RCMP WHEN NECESSARY.
SINCE LINE DRIVE OUTREACH BECAME THE PROGRAM OPERATOR, THESE THREE EXTERNAL PARTNERS REPORT IMPROVEMENTS IN CONSISTENCY, RELIABILITY AND COMMUNICATION WITH THE SERVICE.
PARTNER AGENCIES REPORTED CONFUSION AND INCONSISTENCY IN THE SERVICE OFFERED BY LINE DRIVE OUTREACH, CITING INSTANCES WHERE SOBER CLIENTS WERE SOMETIMES PROVIDED RIDES AND IN OTHER CASES DENIED.
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WE DID HAVE SOME STAFF MOVE OVER FROM THE PREVIOUS SERVICE OPERATOR, AND WITH OUR GUIDELINES CHANGING, THERE WAS A BIT OF CONFUSION.SO WE WERE CONSISTENTLY DEALING WITH THAT THROUGHOUT THE TIME.
LINE DRIVE OUTREACH DECLINES, RIDES FROM PATIENTS RECENTLY DISCHARGED FROM THE HOSPITAL AS THESE CLIENTS ARE NOT CONSIDERED TO BE IN DISTRESS UNDER THE PROGRAM'S CRITERIA.
IN INSTANCES WHERE TAXI SERVICE REFUSED TRIPS, HOSPITAL STAFF HAD TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE, WHICH CAN INCREASE WORKLOAD ON THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT.
AND WE'VE CONSISTENTLY TOLD THEM THAT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM, BUT THEY NEED TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR IT BECAUSE IT WASN'T PART OF OUR SCOPE.
SHELTER STAFF STATE THAT SINCE LINE DRIVE OUTREACH BECAME THE OPERATOR, IT HAS EXPOSED OR CREATED SIGNIFICANT GAPS.
PREVIOUSLY, THE PROGRAM PROVIDED SHELTER-TO-SHELTER TRANSPORTATION FOR DINNER TIME TO ALLOW CLIENTS TO ACCESS SHELTER-OFFERING MEALS.
STAFF NOTE THAT WITHOUT THIS SERVICE, SOME CLIENTS HAVE DIFFICULTY REACHING SHELTERS FOR FOOD, WHICH CAN PLACE CLIENTS IN A DIFFICULT POSITION AND PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON STAFF.
SHELTER STAFF NOTE INCONSISTENCY IN ELIGIBILITY FOR TRANSPORTATION, SUCH AS CLIENTS WHO REQUIRE TRANSPORTATION DUE TO MOBILITY ISSUES BUT ARE NOT INTOXICATED.
ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK ALSO INCLUDED A COMMENT CONCERNING PERCEIVED PROFESSIONALISM BY SOME LINE DRIVE STAFF MEMBERS, AS WELL AS THE NEED FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO VEHICLE ACCESSIBILITY, SAFETY WITH THE SEATBELTS, AVAILABILITY, ETC.
ALL BUSINESSES THAT WERE SPOKEN TO WERE AWARE OF THE PROGRAM AND HOW TO REACH THEM.
SOME WERE NOT AWARE THAT FOOT PATROL WAS HAPPENING.
SOME BUSINESSES CALL SEVERAL TIMES A DAY, OTHERS A FEW TIMES A WEEK.
THE CENTRE SQUARE MALL BUSINESSES REPORT THEY'VE SEEN FOOT PATROL AND DESCRIBE THEM AS WARM, FRIENDLY AND EASY TO INTERACT WITH.
RESPONSE TIME TO BE BETWEEN 5 AND 15 MINUTES, SOMETIMES UP TO 30 MINUTES.
MORE THAN ONE BUSINESS INDICATED STAFF ALWAYS ANSWERED THE PHONE IMMEDIATELY.
POSITIVE COMMENTS ON STAFF INCLUDE THEIR KIND AND GENTLE AND HAVE GOOD RAPPORT WITH CLIENTS AND COME OUT OF THE VEHICLE TO MEET PEOPLE BUSINESSES INDICATE THEY WILL USUALLY CALL LINE DRIVE OUTREACH BEFORE CALLING RCMP WE WERE HAPPY AND TO HAVE DEN OF DONATIONS AND IN KIND SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY OF COURSE THE CITY HELPED US OUT WITH GIFT CARDS FOR WATER AND GRANOLA BARS HATS MITTS SOCKS WE HAD NO IDEA HOW MUCH WATER COST SO WE'RE COMING UP WITH A PLAN FOR THIS YEAR ON HELPING SUPPLEMENT THAT.
DAILY READY MADE MEALS FROM INDEPENDENT, WHICH WE HANDED OUT.
LEFTOVER FOOD FROM MEETINGS AND PARTIES, WHICH WE TOOK WHENEVER OFFERED.
WE RECENTLY HAD AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DO SOME HANDMADE BEAVER HAND WARMERS THAT WE HANDED OUT TO CLIENTS.
AND PALLETS OF WATER AND GRANOLA BARS WAS DONATED FROM THE SALVATION ARMY.
THE BIGGEST ONE IS CHANGE IS HARD FOR EVERYONE.
BECAUSE THIS WAS A PRE-EXISTING PROGRAM AND THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES WERE IMPLEMENTED, IT CAUSED CHALLENGES.
SO NOT KNOWING THE PREVIOUS SCOPE OF THE PROGRAM AT ALL CAUSED CHALLENGES WITH THE TRANSITION.
OUT OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT GAVE US NEGATIVE FEEDBACK, THE CLIENTS WERE THE MOST ACCEPTING OF THE CHANGES.
AND THEY WERE THE EASIEST TO DEAL WITH.
THERE WAS INITIAL NEGATIVE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.
THERE WERE A LOT OF SUPPORTS IN PLACE THAT WERE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE WE PROPOSED AND THE COMMUNITY WAS NOT HAPPY AND CHALLENGED US TO MEET NEEDS OUTSIDE OF OUR SCOPE.
I GOT PUSHBACK FROM OTHER NGOS, OTHER GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS, SOME MLAS ON QUESTIONING OUR SCOPE.
I LEARNED THAT I NEED TO TALK TO MY PARTNERING NGOS BEFORE I PUT IN A PROPOSAL BECAUSE IT UPSETS THEM, SO I'M DOING THAT IN THE FUTURE.
AND ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, TRACY WILL ANSWER.
AND WITH THAT, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COLLEAGUES? COUNCILLOR FEQUET.
AND MAYBE JUST TO MENTION, WE WE'RE CHOSEN TO MOVE FORWARD, SO WE HAVE FUNDING FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
THE FIRST TWO YEARS ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME FUNDING.
THE THIRD YEAR IS LESS THAN HALF, SO WE'LL BE ADVOCATING FOR MORE FUNDING TO KEEP THE SAME LEVEL OF PROGRAM.
THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION, GUYS.
HAPPY TO SEE THIS PROGRAM RUNNING AND LOTS OF GREAT FEEDBACK.
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TWO OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, 2.8 AND 2.12, WERE MARKED AS NOT APPLICABLE.I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD ELABORATE, SHARE ABOUT, SHARE THAT.
AND THAT WAS SLIDE 12 OR 11 AND 12, IF THAT'S HELPFUL.
TRACY WAS THERE, BUT YOU WERE CALLED BACK UP, TAMMY, SO I'LL GIVE IT OVER TO YOU.
YEAH, SO SPECIFICALLY 2.8 AND 2.12.
YEAH, SO THOSE WERE RECOMMENDED IN THE INITIAL EVALUATION THAT WAS DONE PRIOR TO, BUT WHEN THE RFP CAME OUT, IT WAS NOT LISTED THERE, SO WE DIDN'T ADDRESS THEM.
OKAY, SOUNDS LIKE A QUESTION FOR CITY STAFF LATER.
WITH RESPECT TO 2.7, WITH RESPECT TO THE LIVABLE WAGE, THAT'S AWESOME THAT YOU GUYS WERE ABLE TO DO THAT.
WHAT STANDARD DOES HOMEBASE USE FOR THAT? SORRY, I COULDN'T HEAR THAT.
FOR THE LIVABLE WAGE UNDER RECOMMENDATION 2.7, WHAT STANDARD DO YOU GUYS USE FOR THE LIVABLE WAGE? WELL, WE HAD WORKED HARD TO LIFT UP OUR WAGE.
ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION, SO WE MATCHED IT WITH WHAT WE DID FOR THE OTHER PROGRAMS. AND JUST BY REACHING OUT TO OTHER NGOS AND SHELTERS TO SEE WHAT THEIR WAGE WAS IS HOW WE SET OURS.
AND IT'S MUCH HIGHER, JUST SO YOU KNOW.
I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THE LDO CAPTURING THE NUMBER OF CALL-OUTS OR REDIRECTIONS THAT ARE RECEIVED FROM EITHER THE RCMP OR EMS? THE NUMBER? CORRECT.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE, WELL, IT'S HARD TO KNOW.
I DON'T, ARE YOU KEEPING THAT DATA ON? NO, BUT, NO.
I'M JUST TRYING, I'M TRYING TO THINK BACK TO WHAT NUMBERS I'M ASKING, BECAUSE I HAVE A, I DON'T THINK, I THINK WE CAPTURE WHEN WE HAVE TO CALL RCMP, BUT NOT WHEN THEY CALL US, I BELIEVE.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO ADJUST.
FROM THE EVALUATION, WE HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS FROM METRICS ON WHAT TO INCLUDE THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTING INFORMATION.
AND WE ALSO MEET WITH OUR CITY CONTACT ONCE A MONTH, AND THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, WE WERE ASKED TO ADD SOME DIFFERENT STATS AS WELL, TOO, THAT WE DID.
WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO CONFIRM IF TRACKING THAT NUMBER OF CALL-OUTS OR REDIRECTIONS FROM THE RCMP AND FROM OUR AMS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE INCLUDED OR HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO BE INCLUDED? YEP WE CAN ADD THAT TO OUR OUR FORM AND FOR CONTEXT I'M SURE COUNTS FOR KEPT YEAH LOOKING AT THIS BECAUSE YOU KNOW ANYTIME THAT A REDIRECTION CAN HAPPEN TO THE MOST APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT RELIEVES PRESSURE ON OTHER LEVELS OF YOU KNOW SO THAT'S THE COMPANY CAN ADD THAT'S JUST A DROP DOWN FOR OUR STAFF TO DOCUMENT SO WE'LL JUST ADD IT YEAH JUST BE CLEAR NOT GIVING DIRECTION THAT'S THE CITY ADMINISTRATION'S I WAS MOSTLY JUST ASKING IF IT WAS ALREADY IN THE LIST AND WOULD ENCOURAGE OUR ADMINISTRATION TO CONSIDER THAT.
WE HAVE 311 WE'RE PURSUING AND HAVE TALKED IN THE PAST ABOUT HAVING AN EXTRA OPTION SO PEOPLE CAN RCMP, FIRE, AMBULANCE, OUTREACH, JUST FOR CONTEXT.
WITH RESPECT TO THE KEY INSIGHTS DATA, SO A COUPLE SLIDES DOWN, JUST WONDERING IF YOU HAD ANY INSIGHT AS TO THE MOST COMMON REASON THE CLIENTS ARE REFUSING SERVICE.
YOU MENTIONED A FEW, LIKE THE SEATBELT ISSUE SEEMS TO BE ONE, AND OTHER CLIENTS IN THE VEHICLE THAT THEY MAY NOT BE COMFORTABLE WITH.
WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY OBVIOUS AREAS.
FOR OPPORTUNITY OR SAFETY ISSUES WE SHOULD BE AWARE OF? NO, MOST OF THE TIMES THAT THE CLIENTS REFUSE IS WHEN A COMMUNITY MEMBER HAS CALLED FOR THEM AND THEY GO, I DON'T NEED A RIDE.
AND WE TRY TO ENCOURAGE THEM THE BEST WE CAN, BUT I'D SAY THAT'S THE MAJORITY.
ON THE CLIENT CHALLENGES SLIDE, AND YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GETTING OBVIOUSLY LOTS OF GREAT POSITIVE FEEDBACK, SO THAT'S AMAZING.
IT TALKS ABOUT, AND YOU MENTIONED IT, ONE OF THE BULLETS IS ABOUT INTOXICATED CLIENTS ARE PRIORITIZED OVER THOSE WITH MOBILITY OR DISABILITY OR MEDICAL ISSUES.
IS THAT JUST A PERCEPTION OR IS THAT A PRACTICE OR POLICY? IT IS A PRACTICE.
LIKE, IT'S WHOEVER'S IN MOST DISTRESS.
SO IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT IS LOITERING AT THE HOSPITAL AND WE GET A CALL FOR THAT AND WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S PASSED OUT IN A SNOWBANK BECAUSE THEY'RE INTOXICATED, WE'RE GOING TO GO THERE FIRST.
AND WE EXPLAIN THAT, THAT WE HAVE TWO CALLS AHEAD OF YOU.
YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO GIVE THEM THE BEST TIMELINE AS POSSIBLE, AS WE KNOW, BUT IF A CALL COMES IN, THEN WE HAVE TO GO THERE FIRST, OBVIOUSLY.
JUST WONDERING, WITH THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM, IF YOU'VE DISCUSSED, NOTWITHSTANDING YOU JUST MENTIONED THE BUDGET REDUCTION IN YEAR THREE, BUT HAVE YOU DISCUSSED WHETHER THERE'D BE A BENEFIT TO EXPANDING THE FOOT PATROLS TO GO LATER INTO THE EVENING,
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OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL YOU JUST DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR OR JUST HAVEN'T GOT THERE YET IN THE EARLY STAGES? TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IT WAS NOT WITH THE PREVIOUS PROVIDER, AND IT WAS JUST A NEW PART THAT WAS ADDED TO IT.AND I THINK WE'RE HITTING THE MARK.
WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE REALLY BUSY TIMES BETWEEN 4 AND 6 DOWNTOWN, WHICH IS GOOD.
AND WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT INCREASING THE HOURS.
AS YOU WILL SEE ON THAT SLIDE, AND I'M PRETTY SURE ON THE FINANCE SLIDE, SHOWED YOU THAT, LIKE, MAJORITY OF THE BUDGET GOES TO WAGES TO KEEP PEOPLE ON THE ROAD THAT LONG.
SO I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE ACCOMMODATION OF BOTH THE NEED HASN'T BEEN IDENTIFIED AND WE WOULD NEED A BIGGER BUDGET.
AND THANKFULLY, THE PRESIDENT OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS BEHIND YOU.
SO ALL BUSINESSES WILL BE AWARE NOW THAT THE FOOT PATROL IS A VALUABLE SERVICE.
AND AS A MANAGER, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT OUT THERE A LOT MORE BECAUSE IT JUST FILLS THAT RAPPORT WITH THE CLIENTS AND THEY RECOGNIZE OUR VEST.
SO THEN WHEN THEY DO GET PICKED UP BY THE VAN, IT'S LIKE, OH, IT'S YOU GUYS.
SO IT REALLY HELPS WITH DE-ESCALATION.
AND AS SOMEONE WHO WORKS AND LIVES DOWNTOWN, I SEE THEM ALL THE TIME.
AND WE ENCOURAGE AND SUPPORT VALUE IN TRYING TO SQUEEZE AS MUCH JUICE OUT OF THAT ONE AS POSSIBLE.
AND ON THAT SAME NOTE, JUST GIVEN THAT COUNCIL AT THE LAST BUDGET APPROVED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO ADD MORE FOCUS FOR OUR MUNICIPAL ENFORCEMENT DIVISION IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE FOR PATROLS, BIKE PATROLS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY COORDINATION WITH THE FOOT PATROLS FROM THE CITY AND FROM THIS, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY MORE COORDINATION, THERE'S LIKE SOME THRESHOLD OF IT'S TOO MUCH WORK AND ADMINISTRATION, BUT AT SOME POINT THERE'S PROBABLY SOME EFFICIENCIES THERE.
OKAY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS QUITE A BIT, AND WE'VE JUST RECENTLY MET, AND WE'RE TRYING TO WEIGH IT OUT TO SEE WHETHER UNIFORMS ARE GOING TO SCARE CLIENTS OR WHETHER THEY WILL GET USED TO IT.
SO WE'RE PLANNING SOME PLANNED APPEARANCES.
SOUNDS LIKE A FLASH MOB WITHIN THE CITY WHERE WE WILL PRESENT AS A TEAM SO PEOPLE SEE THAT WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER.
WE JUST HAVEN'T COORDINATED THOSE YET.
I'LL DONATE THE T-SHIRTS SO THE MAD UNIFORMS CAN BE COVERED UP.
AND JUST LAST QUESTION, YOU MENTIONED THE FOOD AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO MOVING FORWARD.
I WAS JUST WONDERING, AND THANK YOU TO, I GUESS, INDEPENDENT WHO'S BEEN SUPPORTING THE PROGRAM IN THE PAST.
DO YOU HAVE ANY GROCERY STORES OR RESTAURANTS WHO ARE BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THEIR NON-SALEABLE FOODS REGULARLY TO YOU GUYS TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAM? THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF OUR OUTREACH THIS YEAR, AS WELL AS LOOKING AT PARTNERS FOR SPONSORING WATER FOR A MONTH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, LOOKING AT DIFFERENT BUSINESSES.
AND TRACY'S ALREADY STARTED THAT.
AND I JUST KNOW THE WHOLE FOOD RESCUE NETWORK, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK IN THAT SPACE, AND IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE THAT INTEGRATED.
YEAH, AND WE'RE ALSO ENGAGED WITH FOOD RESCUE AS WELL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, GUYS, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND BEFORE WE JUMP TO COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN, JUST TO FOLLOW OFF SOMETHING, I WAS JUST WONDERING, CAN ADMIN AND PERHAPS EVEN THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY SPEAK TO ANY STATS THAT THE CITY TRACKS RELATED TO COLLABORATION? LIKE, I KNOW COUNCILLOR FEQUET ASKED ABOUT THE RCMP AND LINE DRIVE, BUT IF WE HAVE ANY STATS FROM OUR END RELATED TO THIS COLLABORATION.
SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR MCLENNAN IN A MINUTE.
I WOULD SAY THAT AS WAS STATED, SPECIFIED BY TAMMY IN THE PRESENTATION, CHANGE.
SO THIS PROGRAM WAS UPDATED, RE-TENDERED, LANDED.
AND THE EVALUATION, IN MY ESTIMATION, COULDN'T HAVE BEEN ANY MORE POSITIVE IN TERMS OF TRYING TO GO FROM A VERY BASIC MODEL TO A VERY MORE NUANCED AND SOPHISTICATED MODEL.
SO I THINK THE EVALUATION REFLECTS THAT.
ONE OF THE DATA GAPS, THOUGH, IN THE EVALUATION THAT I THINK WAS POINTED ON BY COUNCILLOR FEQUET WERE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ACTUALLY PERTAIN TO ADMINISTRATION AS OPPOSED TO THE DELIVERER.
AND SO WHAT WE HAVE, WE STILL HAVE A BIT OF A DATA COLLECTION QUESTION GOING ON.
WHAT WE DO HAVE IS SOME ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE, WHICH IS FAIRLY POSITIVE, AND I THINK WE NEED TO REFINE THAT AND MOVE MORE FROM ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE TO SOMETHING MORE SCIENTIFIC.
SO THAT'S WORK THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO, BUT IN TERMS OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OUR PARAMEDIC AND FIRE SERVICES AND MUNICIPAL ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WORKING IN COLLABORATION WITH LINE DRIVE, IT'S BEEN VERY POSITIVE AND CONSTRUCTIVE AND LOTS OF REFERRALS BACK AND FORTH.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF MR. MCLENNAN
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HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD.I JUST AMPLIFY WHAT MR. VAN DINE SAID.
BEEN VERY POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH LINE DRIVE AND TIMELY AND ACCESSIBILITY.
WE DO AT THE FIRE DIVISION TRACK METRICS ON ALL OUR ENGAGEMENTS WITH WHETHER IT BE THE RCMP OR LINE DRIVE OR THE PREDECESSOR.
WE TRACK IT ON AN INCIDENT BASIS.
SO WE DO HAVE THAT DATA AVAILABLE IF THERE'S INTEREST IN SEEING THE FREQUENCY OF THAT.
WE DO NOT TRACK SPECIFIC METRICS FOR THAT WITH MUNICIPAL ENFORCEMENT.
A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT RELATIONSHIP THERE.
WHEN LINE DRIVE IS ON SCENE AT A COMMON INCIDENT WE'RE AT, BUT WE DON'T SPECIFICALLY TRACK THAT METRIC.
SO THE INFORMATION IS THERE, BUT TO RETRIEVE THAT REQUIRES A LITTLE BIT MORE ANALYSIS, WHEREAS THE FIRE DIVISION IS MORE STREAMLINED IN PROVIDING OVERVIEW OF THAT INFORMATION.
THANKS VERY MUCH TO ADMIN FOR THOSE.
COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN, OVER TO YOU.
YEAH, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION, FOR COMING OUT.
YEAH, JUST CURIOUS TO DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER ON THE LIVING WAGE ITEM.
LIKE WHAT WOULD BE A RANGE FOR THAT, JUST FOR CONTEXT THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND? I'M BAD WITH REMEMBERING.
AND WHEN WE DID OUR RESEARCH FROM SOME OF THE OTHER SHELTERS, I BELIEVE IT WAS $23 TO $24 AN HOUR.
YEAH, AND, YEAH, COUNCILLOR, I FORGET, GOT MOST OF MY OTHER QUESTIONS.
YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, JUST BECAUSE, LIKE, ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS FOR THE PROGRAM THAT I REALLY LIKE IT IS THAT I THINK IT HELPS, YEAH, DIVERT CALLS AND WORK FROM PARAMEDICS OR RCMP.
AND SO I'D LOVE TO SEE, LIKE, A CALL VOLUME TO PARAMEDICS AND RCMP WITH THE OLD PROGRAM, CALL VOLUME TO THE OLD PROGRAM VERSUS NEW PROGRAM, THOSE SAME NUMBERS, IS TO SEE IS THE EXPANDED PROGRAM HAVING AN IMPACT THERE OR NOT? YEAH, DEFINITELY SORT OF A LONGER-TERM THING, BUT WOULD LOVE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS ON POINT.
MAYBE ONE THING TO NOTE, JUST MY OBSERVATION, IS WHEN WE HAVE MEETINGS AT STANTON WITH RCMP AND SECURITY AND STANTON PEOPLE AS WELL, TOO.
AND WE HAD ONE JUST PRIOR TO THE END OF THE LAST FISCAL YEAR, AND WE MENTIONED THAT THE PROGRAM WAS OUT TO TENDER AGAIN AND WE DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE DOING IT AND THE RCMP LIKE PANICKED AND SAID WHEN IS THIS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO FIND OUT WE'RE GOING TO PUT MORE PEOPLE OUT SO I THINK THAT SHOWS THAT THEY RELY ON US TO DELIVER THAT SERVICE.
YEAH TOTALLY APPRECIATE THE THE ANECDOTE WOULD ALSO LOVE SOME HARD DATA.
YEAH AND WE'LL ORGANIZE OR I'LL WORK WITH ADMIN TO FIND HOW QUICKLY WE CAN GET THAT DATA BUT IT SEEMS LIKE BETWEEN LINE DRIVE OURSELVES IT'S THERE SO YEAH YEP THANKS FOR THAT COUNCILWOMAN MCGURK.
YEAH, THANKS SO MUCH FOR COMING TO PRESENT I AM WONDERING IF SOMEONE CAN'T ACCESS A TAXI WOULD BECAUSE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT AT THE HOSPITAL FOR INSTANCE WOULD THAT NOT QUALIFY THEM FOR BEING IN DISTRESS SO THIS HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE WITH THE HOSPITAL.
SO APPARENTLY THEY CAN GIVE OUT TAXI CHIPS TO PEOPLE THAT CAME FOR AN APPOINTMENT AND NEED A RIDE OR WENT TO EMERGENCY AND WERE SEEN AND NEEDED A RIDE.
BUT, SOMETIMES THEY SAY THEY DON'T HAVE THE TAXI CHITS AND THEN WANT TO RELY ON US, AND THEN OTHER TIMES THEY DO HAVE THEM.
SO, TRACY ACTUALLY HAS A MEETING SET UP WITH A MANAGER TO TRY.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS PUT A SHEET ON THE WALL THAT SAYS, IN ORDER TO CALL LINE DRIVE, YOU MUST CHECK THESE THREE BOXES OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THEY'RE SUPER BUSY AND DOING A LOT OF THINGS, SO WE'RE HOPING THAT'LL HELP IT.
YEAH, AND WE GET A LOT OF CALLS, LIKE PEOPLE GOING TO WALMART SHOPPING AND THEN WANT A RIDE TO THE SHELTER OR WHEREVER.
AND THERE IS A GAP IN THAT SERVICE FOR DAILY APPOINTMENTS, TO AND FROM THE HOSPITAL, THAT'S NON-EMERGENCY, FOR PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD TAXIS, BUT THAT'S NOT OUR JOB, RIGHT? AND IT'S NOT THE SHELTER'S JOB TO PROVIDE THAT, IT'S NOT THE HOSPITAL, IT'S NOBODY'S JOB, BUT THERE IS A NEED.
AND THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE THE TAXI DUE TO BEHAVIOR.
BACK TO YOU, COUNCILWOMAN MCGURK. YES, WHICH I UNDERSTAND.
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IF IT'S BEHAVIOR-RELATED ESPECIALLY, IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME PROBLEM FOR YOU.DO OR CAN YOU LEVERAGE VOLUNTEER ASSISTANCE WITH THIS PROGRAM? SO THAT HAS BEEN A BIT OF A CHALLENGE, JUST BECAUSE WE DO TRANSPORT SOME YOUTH, AND WORKING WITH CHILD AND FAMILY SERVICES AND WHAT THEY QUALIFY PEOPLE WORKING WITH VULNERABLE PEOPLE ARE, WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE THAT VOLUNTEERS HAS A CLEAR VULNERABLE SECTOR CHECK AND A CHILD PROTECTION RECORD CHECK, WHICH TAKES SOME TIME.
SO WE'RE AT A PROCESS WHERE WE'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING A LOT WITH THEM, SAYING WE'RE NOT LEAVING PEOPLE WITH CLIENTS UNATTENDED, THERE'S STAFF THERE.
SO WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN BE ABLE TO ASK FOR PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER.
WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT JUST BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CONTRACT IN THIS NEW FISCAL YEAR.
SO THAT'S ON THE HORIZON, YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.
COMING OUT AND PRESENTING AND IT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION WHEN YOU DID THIS TO THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD SO THANKS FOR COMING AND PRESENTING THE COUNCIL AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES THANK YOU SO MUCH THANKS AND NEXT WE HAVE ON OUR
[5. A memorandum regarding Community Plan Comprehensive Update, Section 1 – Section 6. ]
AGENDA A MEMO REGARDING COMMUNITY PLAN COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE SECTION 1 TO SECTION 6 COUNCILLOR PAYNE CAN COME BACK.WELCOME BACK, COUNCILLOR PAYNE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS TOPIC TODAY.
COUNCIL WILL BE AWARE THAT AS PART OF OUR HOUSING ACCELERATED FUND PROPOSAL THAT ON THE DOCKET WAS TO UPDATE OUR CURRENT COMMUNITY PLAN.
WE HAVE LAUNCHED INTO THAT PROCESS.
WE'VE DONE TWO ROUNDS OF ENGAGEMENT ON DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE PLAN.
TODAY'S DISCUSSION IS AN UNVEILING OF WHAT HAS COME OUT OF THE INCUBATOR AND BLACK BOX OF ANALYSIS AND CONSULTATION AND THOUGHT AROUND POLICY DIRECTIONS AND CHANGE.
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR WHITE TO DO A VERY BRIEF INTRODUCTION AND THEN MR. ALAM WILL WALK US THROUGH TODAY'S PRESENTATION.
I WOULD PRIOR TO DOING THAT, JUST HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAVE SHIFTED SINCE THE COMMITMENT TO UNDERTAKE THIS PLAN WAS TAKEN, JUST TO PUT THIS INTO A BIT OF CONTEXT.
SO THE PLAN ITSELF WAS A COMMITMENT UNDER THE HOUSING ACCELERATED PROGRAM.
WE UNDERTOOK HOUSING NEED ANALYSIS.
WE UNDERTOOK POPULATION PROJECTIONS.
WE UNDERTOOK A NUMBER OF STUDIES AND OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT.
AND THEN THE PRIME MINISTER CAME ON MARCH 12TH.
AND ANNOUNCED A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WERE QUITE SIGNIFICANT FOR BOTH THE TERRITORY AND OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT FOLLOWED SOME PRESENTATIONS OR AT LEAST ANNOUNCEMENTS BY DEPARTMENT OF NATIONAL DEFENCE WHO ARE COMING HERE NEXT WEEK TO TALK MORE ABOUT SOME OF THE PLANS THAT THEY HAVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
I RAISE THAT BECAUSE WHILE SOME MAY POINT TO THE FACT OF THE WORK THAT HAD BEEN DONE UP UNTIL THIS DATE MAY BE EXPIRED OR PERHAPS NOT FRESH ENOUGH, I WOULD OFFER THAT IN FACT THE DEMAND FOR SUCH A PLAN UPDATE IS ACTUALLY EVEN HIGHER THAN IT WAS BEFORE WE BEGAN IN LIGHT OF THOSE ANNOUNCEMENTS.
AND I BELIEVE TODAY WE'LL BE ABLE TO WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE SHIFTS THAT ARE BEING CONTEMPLATED IN AN UPDATED PLAN FOR THE COMMUNITY.
CERTAINLY THE QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE WITH THE MOST RECENT CONTEXT ARE QUESTIONS THAT ARE WELCOME TO HEAR FROM, BUT I WOULD JUST REINFORCE THAT ALL OF THE GOOD WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE THAT YOU'LL SEE MORE OF TODAY DOES NOT CHANGE THE THOUGHT PROCESSES OR THE ANALYSIS.
IT DOES, I WOULD ARGUE, OFFER INCREASED ACCELERATED NEED TO GET THIS PLAN UPDATED AND IN PLACE.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR WHITE.
MAYBE JUST BEFORE YOU JUMP IN, DIRECTOR WHITE, JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE WATCHING, LISTENING TO THIS, MEDIA IN THE ROOM, SOMETHING TO HIGHLIGHT TOO IS THIS IS WHERE CITY COUNCIL IS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT.
WHEN COUNCIL SAW THIS, THIS PAST WEEKEND, THAT'S THE FIRST TIME THE PUBLIC SEES IT TOO.
SO WE SEE THINGS AT THE SAME TIME AS OPPOSED TO OTHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT WHERE OFTEN MEMBERS WILL SEE THINGS FAR IN ADVANCE.
SO COUNCIL IS HAVING OUR FIRST BITE AT THIS TODAY.
THIS IS THE FIRST OF SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE.
SO WE WANT TO HEAR FROM RESIDENTS OVER THE NEXT WHILE, FROM BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE CHAMBER FROM COMMUNITY GROUPS.
THIS IS ALL PART OF THE PROCESS OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS AND MONTHS, AND I WANTED TO PUT THAT CONTEXT ON BECAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE WILL READ THINGS
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AND ASSUME THAT THINGS ARE BAKED.WE ARE GOING TO BE GRAPPLING WITH THIS OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS, AND SEVERAL OF US ALREADY HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS IN.
TODAY, WE'LL SORT OF BE CHEWING OFF THE HIGH-LEVEL POLICY DISCUSSIONS, AND WE'LL BE GETTING INTO THE WEEDS OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS.
SO WITH THAT CONTEXT, OVER TO DIRECTOR WHITE.
AND YES, TO HIGHLIGHT, THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF ANNOUNCEMENTS AND A NUMBER OF CHANGES SINCE WE STARTED THIS.
SO THE DRAFT POLICIES, AND THEY ARE DRAFT, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS, BRINGS TOGETHER THE BACKGROUND STUDIES THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, THE MULTIPLE OPEN HOUSES, INFORMATION SESSIONS, AND FEEDBACK LOOPS THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS HAVE FED INTO THIS PROCESS.
WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT HISTORICAL CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE COMMUNITY PLAN THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
THINGS THAT WE'VE COME UP AGAINST, THINGS THAT WE'VE MAYBE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO BECAUSE THERE'S POLICIES OR MAYBE THERE'S NO POLICY.
WE'VE TAKEN COUNCIL DECISIONS SO YOU HAVE MADE SOME DECISIONS RECENTLY ON COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENTS THOSE ARE BUILT IN HERE BECAUSE THOSE ARE TO BE CARRIED FORWARD GOING IN THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL HAS GIVEN FOR THOSE ITEMS AND OR BUILDING ON THEM.
IT DOES BRING IN BEST PLANNING PRACTICES AND HOW THE, WHETHER THAT'S COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY OR FROM COUNCIL OR YOUR DECISIONS, WORK IN THE PLANNING CONTEXT WITHIN THE LEGISLATIVE FRAMEWORK WE HAVE.
SO WE ALSO HAVE TO STICK WITH WHAT WE HAVE AUTHORITY TO DO AND WHERE WE HAVE AUTHORITY TO DO IT.
AND PULLING ALL OF THAT TOGETHER, THESE DRAFT PIECES, AND WE'RE BRINGING THEM IN GROUPS OF SECTIONS FOR CONVERSATION, IS OUR RECOMMENDED DIRECTION.
AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TODAY AND AT THE NEXT COUPLE MEETINGS WE HAVE IS HAVE WE GONE FAR ENOUGH? HAVE WE GONE TOO FAR? AND WHERE DOES COUNCIL NEED EITHER MORE INFORMATION FROM US, WHICH WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE, AND WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS THAT BALANCE BUT ALSO FLEXIBILITY WHILE MEETING OUR LEGISLATIVE REQUIREMENTS? SO THERE'S KIND OF A BUNCH OF BOXES WE HAVE TO TICK AS WE GO ALONG.
AND SO AS THE MAYOR SAID, THIS IS SESSION NUMBER ONE OF A NUMBER OF SESSIONS, AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ARE TAKING ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
WE'RE CREATING, IF YOU REMEMBER, THE LAND ADMINISTRATION BY-LAW AND THE ZONING BY-LAW.
WE CREATED A CHART, WHICH WAS DONE BY THE SECTIONS, AND THEN SAID THIS WAS THE COMMENT THAT CAME IN, SO WHETHER THAT WAS COUNCIL, THE PUBLIC, ETC.
HERE IS THE RESPONSE TO IT, AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER COLUMN THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION.
SO SOMETIMES THE QUESTION, THERE MAY BE A LEGISLATIVE REASON WHY WE CAN'T DO THAT.
OR MAYBE THERE'S TWO OR THREE OPTIONS OF HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THE QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE.
IN THE LAST MEETING, AND THIS IS WHAT WE DID WITH LAND ADMIN AND ZONING, IS THERE WAS A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT WERE STILL OUTSTANDING BECAUSE MAYBE THREE COUNCILLORS HAD ONE VIEW AND OPINION AND TWO OTHERS HAD A DIFFERENT.
YOU'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, THAT DECISION IS YOURS.
WE'LL TAKE THAT AND REFLECT IT IN THE FINAL DRAFT, BUT WE'LL NEED TO GO THROUGH ITEM BY ITEM ON THOSE.
SO I KNOW IT SEEMS A LITTLE COMPLICATED.
THAT IS OUR GOAL BECAUSE YOU WILL MAKE THAT DECISION.
SO WITH THAT, MOHAMMAD IS GOING TO WALK US THROUGH THE SECTIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
AND IF YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO COME UP, SAY, IN THE NEXT SESSION, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW AND SAY, LISTEN, THANK YOU, WE'RE RECORDING THAT.
WE ALSO HAVE ADMINISTRATION HERE WHO ARE RECORDING.
SO WE MAY SAY WE'LL TAKE IT BACK AND GET BACK TO YOU NEXT WEEK WHEN WE HAVE THOSE POLICIES IN FRONT OF YOU.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND OVER TO MOHAMMAD.
MAKE SURE YOU TURN ON THE MIC BEFORE YOU GO.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
TODAY WE ARE REPRESENTING A KEY MILESTONE.
THE FIRST DRAFT OF COMMUNITY PLAN COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE YELLOWKNIFE 2050 AS MISS WHITE AND OUR CITY MANAGER MENTIONS THIS WORK REFLECTS NEARLY A YEAR OF I WOULD SAY MORE THAN A YEAR OF BACKGROUND RESEARCH EXTENSIVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SERIES OF MAPPING EXERCISES AND ALSO WORKSHOP STYLE DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN OUR EXTERNAL AND INTERNAL COLLEAGUES SO BEFORE GETTING INTO THE DETAILS, I WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY OUTLINE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, IN THE PROCESS AND WHAT COMES NEXT.
AS SHOWN IN RED ON THE SLIDE, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IN PHASE FOUR OF COMMITTEE PLAN UPDATE, WHICH INVOLVES PREPARING THE DRAFT PLAN.
AND WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL GPC PRESENTATIONS TO FINALIZE THE FULL DRAFT, FOLLOWED
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BY FIRST COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE FIRST READING.AND THE PUBLIC HEARING BY END OF JUNE AND OUR TARGET IS TO COMPLETE THE DOCUMENT AND THE ENTIRE PROCESS AND SUBMITTING TO DEPARTMENT OF MUNICIPAL AND COUNTY AFFAIRS BY END OF JULY.
SO THIS UPDATE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AS A COMPREHENSIVE REVISION STANDING WELL BEYOND ROUTINE HOUSEKEEPING AMENDMENTS JUST TO KEEP EVERYONE AWARE OF THAT.
IT INTRODUCES SEVERAL NEW SECTIONS ALIGNED WITH CITY'S STRATEGIC PRIORITIES TO SUPPORT LONG-TERM GROWTH AS WELL AS NEW LAND USE DESIGNATIONS TO HELP FACILITATE THAT GROWTH.
KEY ADDITIONS INCLUDE A DEDICATED HOUSING POLICY FRAMEWORK WHICH WAS MISSING IN OUR PREVIOUS VERSION, POLICY RELATED TO WORKFORCE ACCOMMODATION, NEW DESIGNATIONS, INCLUDING FRAME LAKE, HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL AND MINERAL EXTRACTION.
I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY ILLUSTRATING AN IMPORTANT CONCEPT, HOUSING, AS AN ESSENTIAL CITY BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE.
IF YOU SEE IN THIS DIAGRAM, A FULL RANGE OF HOUSING, WHICH IS REFERRED HERE AS HOUSING CONTINUUM, INCLUDES EMERGENCY SHELTER TRANSPORTATION, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, SUBSIDIZED RENTAL, AFFORDABLE HOME OWNERSHIP, MARKET RENTAL, AND MARKET OWNERSHIP.
EACH OF THESE COMPONENTS PLAY A CRITICAL ROLE IN SUPPORTING A HEALTHY AND FUNCTIONAL HOUSING SYSTEM.
IT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT POLICY ADDRESSES THE ENTIRE CONTINUUM, NOT JUST ONE SINGLE SEGMENT OF IT.
RESIDENTS RELY ON AN ADEQUATE SUPPLY ACROSS ALL HOUSING TYPES TO BOTH ACCESS HOUSING AND GRADUALLY IMPROVING THEIR HOUSING SITUATION OVER TIME.
IN YELLOWKNIFE, A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF RESIDENTS FALL WITHIN THE LOW AND VERY LOW INCOME BRACKETS.
MANY OF THESE HOUSEHOLDS CAN ONLY AFFORD NON-MARKET HOUSING, SOME OF THEM RENTAL HOUSING.
TO SUPPORT UPWARD MOBILITY ALONG THE CONTINUUM, IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT WE INCREASE THE SUPPLY OF RENTAL HOUSING, CONDOMINIUMS AND OTHER FORMS OF MARKET HOUSING.
THIS WILL HELP RELIEVE PRESSURE ACROSS THE SYSTEM AND CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS TO MOVE INTO MORE SUITABLE AND STABLE HOUSING OVER THE TIME.
BASED ON THIS AND OUR BACKGROUND STUDIES INCLUDING HOUSING NEED ASSESSMENT, POPULATION PROJECTIONS.
WE HAVE ESTABLISHED CLEAR HOUSING TARGETS ACROSS THIS HOUSING CONTINUUM AND THAT IS APPROXIMATELY FOR 2000 HOUSING UNITS OVER THE NEXT 25 YEARS.
OF THIS TOTAL, ABOUT 10% IS ALLOCATED FOR NON-MARKET HOUSING TO SUPPORT THOSE WITH THE GREATEST NEED, WHILE THE MAJORITY OF THE OTHER HOUSING TYPES WOULD BE 60%, WHICH IS FOCUSED ON HIGHER INTENSITY, HOUSING MARKET THAT INCLUDES MARKET RENTAL, MARKET CONDOMINIUM, AND MISSING MIDDLE FORMS OF HOUSING, FOR EXAMPLE, DUPLEX, FOURPLEX, SIXPLEX, AND SO ON.
THE REMAINING 30% IS DIRECTED TOWARDS GROUND-ORIENTED HOUSING, PRIMARILY SINGLE-DETACHED HOMES.
AND THIS DISTRIBUTION REFLECTS A STRATEGIC APPROACH TO RELIEVE PRESSURE ACROSS THE HOUSING SYSTEM BY INCREASING SUPPLY OF MID AND UPPER LEVEL SEGMENTS OF THE CONDOMINIUM, WHILE STILL SUPPORTING NON-MARKET NEEDS THROUGH THE 10% ALLOCATIONS.
EXPANDING RENTAL, CONDOMINIUM, AND MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING WILL ENABLE RESIDENTS TO TRANSITION MORE EASILY WITHIN THE HOUSING SYSTEM WHILE MAINTAINING A SHARED GROUND-ORIENTED HOUSING FOR EXAMPLE SINGLE DETACHED HOUSINGS THAT WILL SUPPORT FAMILY AND IMPROVE OVERALL AFFORDABILITY BY ALLOWING HOUSING TO MOVE UP TO THAT CONDOMINIUM HIERARCHY WHILE THE PREVIOUS SLIDE OUTLINED HOUSING TARGETS ACROSS HOUSING CONDOMINIUM THIS SLIDE HIGHLIGHTS WHERE THE GROWTH WILL OCCUR AND THAT WOULD BE WITHIN THE CITY'S PLANNED BUILD BOUNDARY. THE HOUSING FRAMEWORK SUPPORTS TWO PARALLEL FORMS OF DEVELOPMENT AS YOU SEE HERE, CAREFULLY DISTRIBUTED ACROSS DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY.
ONE OF THEM IS WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT IN OUR MANY PREVIOUS GPC MEETINGS INTENSIFICATION'S FIRST STRATEGY THAT WILL REMAIN IN PLACE ACCOMMODATING
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APPROXIMATELY 50% OF FUTURE GROWTH AND THE UPDATED HOUSING POLICY STRATEGY WILL WILL INTRODUCE.THE PARALLEL 50% ALLOCATION THROUGH GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT.
THIS GREENFIELD GROWTH IS PRIMARILY PLANNED FOR THE FRAME LAKE AREA OVER THE NEXT 25 YEARS, WHILE THE MAJORITY OF INTENSIFICATION WILL FOCUS ON THE CITY CORE AND OTHER TARGETED INFILL OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.
I'LL HIGHLIGHT A NUMBER OF POLICIES THAT FOCUS ON BUILDING SMARTER IN THE NORTHERN CONTEXT.
THESE POLICIES DIRECT MOST NEW HOUSING TOWARDS AREAS THAT IS PIPE SERVICED, QUITE FEASIBLE AND ENCOURAGING MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING ON UNDERUSED SITES AND INCORPORATE INCENTIVES TO IMPROVE FINANCIAL VIABILITY.
THEY ALSO REQUIRE DEVELOPMENT TO RESPOND TO LOCAL CONDITIONS SUCH AS PERMAFROST, DRAINAGE, SNOW STORAGE AND WILDFIRE RISK.
IN SIMPLE TERMS, THE GOAL IS NOT JUST TO BUILD MORE UNITS, BUT TO ENSURE THEY ARE BUILT IN THE RIGHT LOCATION AT THE RIGHT TIME, ONE THAT IS SERVICEABLE, CLIMATE RESPONSIVE AND SUSTAINABLE OVER THE LONG RUN.
THE DRAFT SUPPORTS A BROADER RANGE OF HOUSING ACROSS THE CONTINUUM.
IT PROTECTS EXISTING UNIT, I MEAN, IT PROTECTS.
EXISTING UNIT COUNTS WHEN THERE IS A REDEVELOPMENT AND WILL RESTRICT DOWNSIZING.
THAT MEANS THERE WILL BE POLICY THAT WILL NOT ALLOW A DUPLEX TO BECOME A SINGLE-DEBTOR'S HOUSE, FOR EXAMPLE.
IT SAYS CLEAR EXPECTATION FOR LARGER PROJECTS TO INCLUDE AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE UNIT, BICYCLE PARKING, AND WHERE APPROPRIATE DAYCARE FACILITIES.
THE EMPHASIS ON MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT ALONG KEY CORRIDORS IS ALSO IMPORTANT, AS INTEGRATING HOUSING WITH SERVICES CAN REDUCE RELIANCE ON CARS AND IMPROVE EVERYDAY CONVENIENCE.
THIS DRAFT LINKS HOUSING TO ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP AND EVERYDAY LIVABILITY.
IT ASKS LARGER DEVELOPMENTS TO PROTECT NATURAL FEATURES WHERE POSSIBLE.
PROVIDE USABLE OUTDOOR ENERGY SPACE, IMPROVE CONNECTIONS TO SIDEWALK AND CYCLING ROUTES, AND IN SOME CASES IT WILL PROVIDE PRIVATELY OWNED PUBLIC SPACES.
THE BROADER IDEA IS THAT A DENSITY INCREASE, THE QUALITY OF SHARED SPACE AND WALKABILITY HAS TO BE IMPROVED AT THE SAME TIME WITH THE INCREASE OF HOUSING SUPPLY.
SO WE ARE GOING TO ANOTHER POLICY THAT WE INTRODUCED WHICH IS WORKFORCE ACCOMMODATION.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS POLICY IS TO SUPPORT ECONOMIC ACTIVITY WITHIN WITHIN THE CITY BOUNDARY FOR THE TIGHTENING THAT THAT WILL REDUCE THE TIGHTENING OF REGULAR HOUSING MARKET WORKFORCE ACCOMMODATION IS MEANT FOR PROJECT-BASED AND SHIFT-BASED WORKER AND IS DIFFERENT FOR FROM MAINSTREAM HOUSING WHICH IS FOR PERMANENT RESIDENTS THE DRAFT DISTINGUISHES BETWEEN TEMPORARY ACCOMMODATION TIED TO SPECIFIC PROJECTS AND LONG-TERM ACCOMMODATION LINKED TO ONGOING INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL OPERATIONS BY MAKING THIS SEPARATION POLICY STREAM THE PLAN CAN SUPPORT MAJOR PROJECTS WHILE REDUCING PRESSURE ON RENTALS AND HOTELS USED BY LOCAL RESIDENTS.
WORKFORCE ACCOMMODATION WILL BE PERMITTED IN KAMLAKE AND KAMLAKE SOUTH AREA AND ALSO TEMPORARY ACCOMMODATION WILL BE PERMITTED IN OTHER PLACES CASE BY CASE BASIS PENDING COUNCIL'S APPROVAL AND THE WORKFORCE ACCOMMODATION WILL NOT BE PERMITTED IN THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AREAS SUCH AS INGAL DISTRICT.
SO THE POLICIES ARE DESIGNATED TO MAKE WORKFORCE ACCOMMODATION PREDICTABLE BUT CONTROLLED.
THE EMPHASIS IS ON LOCATING IT AWAY FROM SENSITIVE USERS, ENSURE PROPER SERVICING REQUIRING TRANSPORTATION AND EMERGENCY PLANNING FOR LARGER SITES AND ASKING FOR DECOMMISSIONING PLUS RELATED ACTIVITIES WHERE FACILITIES ARE CLOSED.
THE DECOMMISSIONING REQUIREMENT IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT AVOIDS THE RISK OF SHORT-TERM CAMP BECOMING A LONG-TERM PROBLEM AFTER THE PROJECT WINDS DOWN.
THE GOAL IS PRACTICAL, SUPPORT
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INDUSTRY, BUT DO IT IN A WAY THAT PROTECTS NEIGHBORHOODS AND PUBLIC CONFIDENCE.FRAME LAKE IS A NEW LAND USE DESIGNATION PROPOSED AS A MAJOR STRATEGIC GROWTH AREA.
BECAUSE IT IS CLOSE TO THE CITY CORE WHILE ALSO HAVING STRONG ENVIRONMENTAL AND CIVIC VALUES.
THE DRAFT TRIES TO DO TWO THINGS HERE, CREATE ROOM FOR LARGER SHARE OF FEATURE HOUSING AND PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE TRADE SYSTEM AND PUBLIC EXPERIENCE IN THAT AREA.
IT ALSO PLACES EMPHASIS ON A BROADER HOUSING MIX INCLUDING AFFORDABLE, ACCESSIBLE, INDIGENOUS-LED AND SENIOR ORIENTED.
OPTIONS SO THAT IT DOES NOT BECOME A SINGLE PRODUCT FOR THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO AS I MENTIONED, A RANGE OF HOUSING FORMS IS CONTEMPLATED HERE WITH HIGHER INTENSITY MIXED USE NEAR THE OLD AIRPORT CORRIDOR, BUT THE DRAFT ALSO PROTECTS THE SHORELINE THROUGH A SETBACK TIES FUTURE DEVELOPMENT TO A SERVICING PLAN.
THE INTENSITY TARGET FOR MIXTEERS PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSED TO BE SIMILAR TO CITY CORE, WHICH IS AROUND 100 UNIT PER HECTARE.
THE SHORELINE BUFFER IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT PROTECTS THE TRAIL EXPERIENCE, NATURAL AGE CONDITIONS AND LONG-TERM PUBLIC ACCESS.
THE REQUIREMENT FOR AFFORDABLE AND INVISIBLE DESIGN IN LARGER PROJECTS ALSO SHOWS THAT THIS AREA CARRIES A STRONG PUBLIC INTEREST ROLE, NOT JUST LAND SUPPLY ROLE.
HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL IS ANOTHER NEW DESIGNATION WE INCORPORATED.
IT IS A LAND USE DESIGNATION LOCATED ALONG HIGHWAY 3 WITHIN CAPITAL AREA OVERLAND.
IT RECOGNIZES THE CERTAIN COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES WHICH ARE INHERENTLY HIGHWAY ORIENTED AND NOT SUITABLE FOR DOWNTOWN OR OTHER URBAN AREAS.
THIS INCLUDES USES OF TRUCK STOPS, SERVICE STATIONS, VEHICLE SALES AND HIGHWAY SERVICING ACCOMMODATIONS SUCH AS HOTELS, MOTELS AND SO ON.
BY IDENTIFYING A DEDICATED AREA FOR THESE FUNCTIONS, THE DRAFTS STRENGTHEN UNLIFE'S ROLE IN THE REGIONAL MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE AND GOODS WHILE MINIMIZING THE LAND USE CONFLICT WITH OTHER AREAS.
AND THIS IS PARTICULARLY IN RESPONSE TO THE RECENT DEVELOPMENT PLANS, INCENTIVES RELATED TO THE NORTHERN ARCTIC SECURITY CORRIDOR AND THE ECONOMIC CORRIDOR INITIATIVES.
THE POLICY DIRECTION HERE IS DELIBERATELY BALANCED.
IT ALLOWS VEHICLE-ORIENTED COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY, BUT IT ALSO PROTECTS NATURAL AREAS SUCH AS JACKFISH LAKE, NEARBY PARKS, CEMETERY LANDS, TRAIL CONNECTIONS.
LIMITING DIRECT ACCESS TO HIGHWAY 3 THROUGH SERVICE ROAD IS A TRANSPORTATION SAFETY MEASURE THAT WILL BE TAKEN.
IT REDUCES TURNING CONFLICT AND PROTECTS THE FUNCTION OF HIGHWAY AS A REGIONAL CORRIDOR.
SO EVEN THOUGH THIS AREA IS AUTO-ORIENTED, THE DRAFT STILL APPLIES ENVIRONMENTAL, CULTURAL, AND ACCESS MANAGEMENT DISCIPLINE.
THE CITY CORE POLICIES ARE BUILT AROUND INTENSIFICATION, REVITALIZATION, AND BETTER USE OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.
THE DRAFT SEES DOWNTOWN NOT ONLY AS A GOVERNMENT AND COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, BUT INCREASINGLY AS A RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED-USE DISTRICT THAT STAYS ACTIVE BEYOND THE OFFICE HOURS.
THE REFERENCE TO A BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA, WHICH IS A FORMAL PARTNERSHIP MODEL WHERE BUSINESS CAN COLLECTIVELY SUPPORT BEAUTIFICATION, MARKETING AND LOCAL IMPROVEMENTS.
THE OVERALL IDEA IS TO GROW THE CORE AS A MORE COMPLETE AND RESILIENT URBAN CENTER.
THE EMPHASIS HERE IS ON MAKING KEY STREETS MORE ANIMATED AND ECONOMICALLY PRODUCTIVE, REQUIRING ACTIVE COMMERCIAL USES AT GROUND CORE, ON CERTAIN CORRIDORS MEANS SHOP, SERVICES, RESTAURANTS AND OTHER USES THAT CREATE EYES ON THE STREET AND MORE INVITING PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE.
THAT IS IMPORTANT IN THE DOWNTOWN BUT ESPECIALLY IN YELLOWKNIFE WHERE WINTER CONDITIONS MAKE THE QUALITY AND THE ACTIVE FRONTAGE MATTER EVEN MORE IMPORTANT.
THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA THAT I TALKED EARLIER, THAT COMPLEMENTS THIS BY GIVING
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LOCAL BUSINESS A STRONG ROLE IN SHAPING THE DISTRICT'S IDENTITY AND IMPROVEMENTS.THE EMPHASIS HERE IS ON MAKING KEY STREETS MORE ANIMATED AND ECONOMICALLY PRODUCTIVE.
REQUIRING ACTIVE COMMERCIAL USES AT GROUND LEVEL ON CERTAIN CORRIDORS MEANS SHOPS, SERVICES, RESTAURANTS AND OTHER USES HAS MORE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE.
THE NEXT ONE IS CENTRAL RESIDENTIAL OBJECTIVES.
SO THIS IS ANOTHER LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT PLAYS AN IMPORTANT TRANSITIONAL ROLE BETWEEN MORE INTENSE CITY CORE AND SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
THIS DRAFT TREATS THIS PLACE AS A MODERATE INTENSIFICATION, ESPECIALLY MULTI-UNIT AND MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, WHILE STILL RESPECTING THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD PATTERN.
IT ALSO TIES GROWTH OF AFFORDABILITY, ACCESSIBILITY, AND NATURAL FEATURES AND YEAR-ROUND CONNECTIONS TO DOWNTOWN.
THIS IS LESS ABOUT DRAMATIC CHANGES, BUT MORE ABOUT GRADUAL CONTEXT-SENSITIVE EVALUATION.
THE POLICY PACKAGE HERE IS DESIGNED TO MANAGE CHANGE IN A CAREFUL AND BALANCED WAY.
IT SUPPORTS GRADUAL TRANSITION OF BUILT FORM, INTRODUCES REDUCED PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR SMALLER UNITS AND SECONDARY SUITES, AND IT SETS A MODERATE DENSITY TARGET WHICH IS AROUND 65 UNIT PER HECTARE.
IT ALSO PROTECTS ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS WHERE PERMAFROST, EROSION AND GROUND INSTABILITY MAKE DEVELOPMENT LESS SUITABLE.
IN ADDITION, PERMITTING SMALL-SCALE URBAN AGRICULTURE AND COMMUNITY GARDENS ENHANCES NEIGHBORHOOD LIVABILITY.
IN THE UPDATED COMMUNITY PLAN, OLD AIRPORT ROAD IS BEING REPOSITIONED FROM A PRIMARY AUTO-ORIENTED COMMERCIAL STRIP TOWARD A MORE MIXED-USE AND HIGHER-INTENSITY CORRIDOR.
THE DRAFT STILL RECOGNIZES COMMERCIAL AND INSTITUTIONAL ROLES.
ESPECIALLY AROUND STANTON HOSPITAL, BUT IT ALSO SEES THE CORRIDOR AS AN IMPORTANT PLACE FOR HOUSING, TRANSIT USE, AND WALKABLE OVERTIME.
THIS IS A CLASSIC COMPLETE CORRIDOR IDEA.
MORE THAN A ROAD, IT BECOMES A PLACE WITH SERVICES, HOMES, AND DAILY ACTIVITIES.
THE DRAFT ENCOURAGES COMMERCIAL AT THE LOWER LEVELS OF THE CORRIDOR.
WITH HOUSING INTEGRATED ABOVE THE GROUND LEVEL, KEEPS PARKING TO THE REAR, PROTECTS HOSPITAL OPERATIONS AND ALLOWS SPECIALIZED HOUSING SUCH AS HEALTH SECTOR, STUDENT ASSISTED HOUSING, ESSENTIAL WORKER HOUSING.
THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT ALIGNS LAND USE WITH EXISTING SERVICE AND TRANSIT POTENTIAL.
IN PLAIN TERMS, THE CORRIDOR IS BEING ASKED TO DO MORE FOR WORK FOR THE CITY, SUPPORTING HEALTH CARE, SUPPORTING HOUSING AND SUPPORT A MORE WORKABLE BUILD FORM AT THE SAME TIME.
SO OUR NEXT POLICY IS MINERAL EXTRACTION.
THIS IS A NEW DESIGNATION REPLACING OUR PREVIOUS DESIGNATION WHICH IS CORE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
THIS SLIDE RECOGNIZES THAT ULMNRF SITS IN A MINING LANDSCAPE AND THAT THE PLAN HAS TO RESPECT BOTH RESOURCE POTENTIAL AND URBAN GROWTH.
THE COMMITTEE PLAN DOES NOT REGULATE MINING OPERATIONS THEMSELVES THAT IS LARGELY TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.
BUT IT DOES GUIDE SURFACE LAND USE AND COMPATIBILITY.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS DESIGNATION IS TO PROTECT AREAS WITH EXISTING KNOWN MINERAL VALUE FROM BEING PREMATURELY STERILIZED BY INCOMPATIBLE LAND USE WHILE STILL REQUIRING ATTENTION TO SAFETY, BUFFERING AND PUBLIC INTEREST.
SO THE POLICY DRAFT IS ESSENTIALLY SAYING THAT MINING SUPPORTIVE USES CAN CONTINUE TO THESE AREAS AND RESIDENTIAL EXPANSION AND OTHER SENSITIVE USES SHOULD NOT BE MOVING TO THEM IN A WAY THAT CREATES CONFLICT.
IT ALSO EMPHASIZES BUFFERS, REHABILITATION AND EVENTUALLY FUTURE USES AFTER EXTRACTION WERE COMPLETED.
AND IN PRACTICAL TERMS, THIS PROTECTS ECONOMICAL OPPORTUNITY TODAY WHILE REDUCING THE CHANCES THAT TOMORROW RESIDENTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE END UP TOO CLOSE TO INCOMPATIBLE OPERATIONS.
IT IS A LAND COMPATIBILITY APPROACH RATHER THAN A PRO OR ANTI MINING STATEMENT.
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SO OVERLAYS, THESE ARE NEW CONCEPTS IN THE UPDATED COMMUNITY PLAN.THERE ARE A SECOND LAYER OF LAND USE DESIGNATION ON TOP OF, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY A DESIGNATION, IT'S KIND OF OVERLAY ON TOP OF EXISTING LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THERE ARE ADDED POLICY LANES THAT PLACES.
SOME ISSUES RELATED TO ENVIRONMENT, CULTURE, INSTITUTIONAL, TECHNICAL IMPORTANCE.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE CAPITAL AREA OVERLAY PROTECTS CIVIC AND SYMBOLIC ROLE AROUND FRAMEWORK AREA.
HHO OVERLAY RESTRICTS INTERIM LAND USE WITHDRAWAL ONGOING LAND CLAIM PROCESS AND SEISMOLOGICAL ARRAY ACKNOWLEDGES FEDERAL MONITORING LANDS.
SOME PLACES ARE NEEDED EXTRA DIRECTION BEYOND THE UNDERLYING LAND USE CATEGORIES SO THERE ARE FEW DESIGNATIONS WHICH WAS IN OUR PREVIOUS COMMITTEE PLAN UPDATE WHICH IS NOW REPLACED AS AN OVERLAY. SO MR. MAYOR TODAY'S MATERIAL IS PART ONE OF THE LARGER COMMITTEE PLAN UPDATE THE NEXT PIECE WILL MOVE INTO ENVIRONMENTAL CLIMATE, TRANSPORTATION AND MUNICIPAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT SEQUENCE MATTERS BECAUSE MANY OF THE DISCUSSION TODAY, HOUSING AND LAND USE DEDUCTIONS, THAT WILL BE RELIED ON IMPLEMENTATION AND THROUGH THE POLICIES THAT WE'LL DISCUSS IN OUR NEXT SESSION.
WITH THAT I CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION AND YOUR FEEDBACK IS IMPORTANT.
TO DISCUSS ABOUT AND MAKING CHANGES BEFORE WE FINALIZE OUR PLAN.
THANK YOU, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. ALAM.
AND COLLEAGUES, WE ARE SITTING AT 1.20, SO FACTORING IN THE START OF OUR SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING, MY RECOMMENDATION IS LET'S TAKE OUR 10-MINUTE BREAK NOW, THEN WE COME BACK, GET INTO QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE IN CAMERA AND STUFF TOO.
SO IF EVERYBODY'S NODDING THEIR HEADS YES, SO WE'LL COME BACK AT 1.27.
AND I WILL CALL OUR MEETING BACK TO ORDER AND THE FIRST ROUND OF QUESTIONS GO TO COUNCILLOR FOOTE.
COUNCILLOR FOOTE, OVER TO YOU.
SORRY, JUST GETTING ORGANIZED HERE.
THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS.
I RECOGNIZE HOW THOROUGH IT IS AND EVERYTHING, SO I APOLOGIZE IF I'M ASKING AT A TURN.
FIRST QUESTION FOR YOU IS HOW IS SCHOOL DEMAND BEING ACCOUNTED FOR ALONGSIDE THE PLANS HOUSING GROWTH ASSUMPTIONS? YELLOWKNIFE HAS NOT ADDED A NEW SCHOOL SINCE THE 90S NOT INCLUDING REPLACEMENTS OR PRIVATE SCHOOLS.
POPULATION HAS INCREASED 5,000 PEOPLE SINCE THEN.
ENROLMENT PRESSURES ARE LARGELY MANAGED THROUGH PORTABLES RATHER THAN NEW FACILITIES SO WHILE RECOGNIZING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIRES COLLABORATION WITH THE GNOBT SCHOOL CAPACITY IS AN INHERENT COMPONENT OF COMMUNITY PLANNING.
HOW HAVE YOU CONSIDERED YIELD, CAPACITY, AND TIMING IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN TO DATE? MR. VAN DINE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND CERTAINLY NOT OUT OF TURN AT ALL.
SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR WHITE AND MR. ALAM IN A MOMENT.
BUT SUFFICE IT TO SAY THAT THE GENERAL COMMUNITY PLAN IS THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF POLICY DIRECTION FOR THE CITY TO ALLOW FOR DIFFERENT LAND USES TO OCCUR.
MUCH LIKE YOU PROBABLY DON'T SEE A DIRECT LINE TO THIS, TO A NEW FIRE HALL OR TO A NEW HOSPITAL OR A NEW HOTEL STRUCTURE SPECIFICALLY, THIS DOCUMENT IS IDENTIFYING POLICY DIRECTIONS AND PLACES WHERE SUCH THINGS CAN OCCUR.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE LEVEL THAT WE'RE AT NOW IN TERMS OF DEMAND IN THE COMMUNITY WITH RESPECT TO AN ACTUAL SCHOOL.
WE WOULD BE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE SCHOOL BOARDS IN YELLOWKNIFE.
THEY WOULD BE CERTAINLY CONSULTING US.
ON WHERE THEY MIGHT WANT TO ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL GROWTH IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, AND WE WOULD WORK THROUGH THAT ON A SITE-BY-SITE OR AN APPLICATION BASIS.
WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING THROUGH THIS DOCUMENT AND THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS SAYING WHERE THAT MIGHT OCCUR AND TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT, IN FACT, WE ARE VERY MUCH, AS YOU'VE POINTED OUT, TRYING TO PUT A CLEAR FOCUS ON A HOUSING POLICY COMPONENT WITHIN THIS PLAN, MUCH.
IF SUCCESSFUL WOULD NATURALLY TRIGGER THE NEED FOR MORE EDUCATION FACILITIES AND DAYCARE AND THE LIKE.
BUT DIRECTOR WHITE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ELABORATE?
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.AND WHAT I CAN SHARE WITH ALL OF COUNCIL AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IS I HAVE A MONTHLY MEETING WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING TOWARDS WHAT NEW DAYCARES LOOK LIKE, HOW THEY'RE COMING UP WITH THE NUMBERS AND TO ADDRESS THE NEED, AS WELL AS WHERE THOSE SCHOOLS MAY BE COMING IN THE FUTURE.
THEY HAVE OUR BACKGROUND INFORMATION, AND WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE THOSE MEETINGS GOING FORWARD.
THEY WOULD BE INVOLVED AT SUCH TIME THAT WE DO AREA DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THESE NEW AREAS OF DEVELOPMENT TO ACCOUNT FOR ALL OF THIS.
THEY WILL IDENTIFY WITH THE SCHOOL BOARDS IF THEY NEED AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL VERSUS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A NEW HIGH SCHOOL.
THOSE AREN'T DECISIONS WE MAKE.
WE MAKE THE SPACE FOR THEM TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS DOCUMENT WILL DO.
AND LATER IN THE PLANNING PROCESS IS WHERE THOSE ANSWERS WILL COME FROM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILLOR FOOTE.
AND YEAH, LIKE ALL MY QUESTIONS ARE REALLY JUST TO KIND OF PUT IT OUT THERE TO THE PUBLIC VIEW THAT THEY'RE BEING THOUGHT ABOUT AFTER.
QUESTION TWO, WHAT SAFEGUARDS ARE IN PLACE TO ENSURE COUNCIL IS NOT ASKED TO APPROVE DEVELOPMENT IN ADVANCE OF UNDERSTANDING LONG-TERM INFRASTRUCTURE AND O&M IMPLICATIONS? I KNOW THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT RECENTLY, SO JUST WANT TO PUT IT OUT THERE AGAIN.
SO ABSOLUTELY, CERTAINLY WHEN WE BRING DECISION PACKAGES FOR COUNCIL, WE NEED TO BE THINKING MEDIUM AND LONG TERM IN TERMS OF THE IMPACTS FOR EACH AND EVERY OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT MAY BE COMING FORWARD.
WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS, I THINK, CERTAINLY WE DID OUR RECENT GENERAL ASSESSMENT.
WE GOT SOME GENERAL INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC WITH RESPECT TO HOW WE CALCULATE AND WE'LL BE CALCULATING HOW MANY PEOPLE TAXES, WHICH IS ALWAYS A TOUCHY SUBJECT.
PART OF THAT CALCULATION, THOUGH, DOES TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SORT OF WHAT A LOT OF COMMUNITIES JUGGLE WITH, AND WE ARE NO DIFFERENT, IS WHAT IS THE RELATIVE BALANCE OF GROWTH TO ACCOMMODATE THE RELATIVE COST OF SERVICES THAT'S OCCURRING IN THE COMMUNITY, AND WHAT'S THAT MIX? AND SO WHAT WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO DO TODAY IS INTRODUCE SOME THINKING AROUND AN UPDATED COMMUNITY PLAN THAT CAN GUIDE THE GROWTH.
TO ALLOW YELLOWKNIFE AND DECISION MAKERS SUCH AS YOURSELVES AND YOUR SUCCESSORS TO CONTEMPLATE THAT BALANCE, THAT PACE, AND THE RELATIVE COSTS ASSOCIATED.
SO WHAT I WILL DRAW ATTENTION TO IS THIS POLICY IS QUITE CLEARLY DIRECTING OR SUGGESTING THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT OCCUR AS CLOSE TO EXISTING SERVICES AS POSSIBLE.
FOR PRECISELY THE REASON TO TRY AND KEEP RELATIVE COSTS DOWN FOR OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE.
SO THAT'S GENERALLY SOME OF THE UNDERLYING PHILOSOPHIES.
AND DIRECTOR WHITE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ELABORATE? THANK YOU.
AND JUST TO ADD TO THE LAST STATEMENT THERE, YOU WILL NOTICE, I'LL USE THE OLD AIRPORT ROAD AS AN EXAMPLE.
THERE'S ASTERISKS IN THERE THAT SAYS, AT SUCH TIME AS SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE.
SO WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INTENSIFICATION AND MIXED USES, WE KNOW THAT FULL SERVICING DOESN'T GO THAT FAR YET THIS IS WHEN OUR PUBLIC SERVICES GET THERE THEN WE'LL DO THAT BUT UNTIL THEN IT'S UP TO WHERE THAT LINE IS THANK YOU.
COUNCILLOR FOOTE. THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER. AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
HOW WILL AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITMENTS BE SECURED, MONITORED, ENFORCED OVER THE LONG TERM? THE PLAN INTRODUCES MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR MULTI-UNIT DEVELOPMENTS, REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT POLICY SHIFT, A BOLD ONE, AND IT WILL LIKELY GENERATE SOME PUSHBACK.
SO GIVEN THAT THE DEFINITIONS OF AFFORDABILITY AND MARKET CONDITIONS CHANGE OVER TIME, HOW DOES ADMINISTRATION INTEND TO DEFINE IT, SECURE THESE COMMITMENTS LEGALLY? MONITOR THE COMPLIANCE AND ENSURE THAT UNITS REMAIN AFFORDABLE OVER THE LONG TERM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR, AND FOR THE QUESTION.
SO AS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT IN THE PRESENTATION, QUITE A BIT OF ENERGY HAS BEEN INVESTED IN THE HOUSING COMPONENT AND THE POLICIES OF THIS COMMUNITY PLAN PROPOSAL.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR WHITE AND JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS IS PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME EVER THE COMMUNITY PLAN HAS CONTEMPLATED ACTUAL TARGETS.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO PROPOSING, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR WHITE ON THE APPARATUS THAT WE PROPOSE TO IMPLEMENT THAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND MR. ALAM WILL GIVE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL, BUT RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE A PROCESS WHERE WE HAVE AGREEMENTS THAT ARE IN PLACE AND THEY HAVE SPECIFIC TIMES TIED TO THEM.
ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS COMING OUT OF THIS AS PART OF OUR IMPLEMENTATION WILL BE TO BRING BACK TO COUNCIL ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE.
WHAT THAT IS GOING TO DO IS SAY, OKAY, HERE'S WHAT WE HAD AND HERE'S WHAT IT GOT US.
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CONTROL IT, HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY SIGNED ON AND WHAT WERE THE RESULTS.HERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL OPTIONS WE WANT COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AND THERE'LL BE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO THAT WILL BE PART OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE POLICIES IN THIS PLAN.
SO IF COUNCIL APPROVES THIS PLAN AND SAYS, YEAH, THIS IS OUR GOAL, THEN WE WILL BRING FORWARD THE EXISTING MECHANISMS, BUT SOME NEW OPTIONS TO CONSIDER ON HOW WE CAN TRACK THAT THROUGH TIME SO THAT WE'RE NOT JUST 10 YEARS AGO AND THEN THOSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS ARE LOST.
SO HOW DO WE KEEP THAT ON THE CONTINUUM? BUT MAYBE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL FROM MOHAMMAD. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLICY, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES WE CURRENTLY HAVE RIGHT NOW, WHICH ARE MOSTLY FOR LOW-DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS, WHICH ARE SECONDARY DWELLING UNITS OR MISSING MIDDLE.
THE AFFORDABLE REQUIREMENT IS PROPOSED FOR A LITTLE BIT HIGHER OR MID-RANGE INTENSITY DEVELOPMENTS, WHICH WILL START FROM 20 UNITS.
THOSE ARE WHAT WE ARE CALLING MULTI-UNIT DEVELOPMENTS, THAT IS MORE THAN 20 UNITS WILL HAVE 10 TO 15 PERCENT AFFORDABLE UNITS.
SO BASICALLY WE ARE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE MORE AFFORDABLE UNITS FOR THE LOW DENSITY AS WELL AS HIGH DENSITY WHERE IT IS MORE FEASIBLE.
YOU KNOW THAT FOR I MEAN THE CONSTRUCTION COST IS HIGHER WHEN YOU HAVE LESS NUMBER OF UNITS, BUT WHEN YOU GO FOR MORE UNITS, IT BECOMES MORE FEASIBLE.
SO WE ARE LOOKING INTO THAT, AS WELL AS WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT WHAT THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING, AND WHAT ARE THE RANGES THEY ARE WORKING ON.
AND BASED ON THAT, WE IDENTIFIED THOSE NUMBERS.
BUT ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT WE ARE JUST NOT ONLY IMPOSING AFFORDABLE REQUIREMENT FOR MULTI-UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE ALSO OFFERING INCENTIVES.
OUR DEVELOPING INCENTIVES NEEDS TO BE MODERNIZED AND THAT WILL HAPPEN IN 2027.
SO IT WILL INCLUDE MORE DIVERSIFIED IN DEVELOPING INCENTIVES THAT WILL OFFSET THE COST OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THAT MIGHT INCLUDE COST SHARING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS OR ANY OTHER COMMITTEE DEVELOPMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO WE'LL WORK ON THAT TO OFFER JUST NOT ONLY IMPOSING AFFORDABLE UNITS BUT ALSO WILL OFFER SOME INCENTIVES ON THOSE IN THOSE CASES.
COUNCILLOR FOOTE? ALL RIGHT GREAT ANSWER THANKS FOR THAT JUST THE WORD OF CAUTION THAT SOMETIMES MARKET FORCES WILL OUTDRIVE INCENTIVES SO JUST AS LONG AS THEY'RE MONITORING AND CONTROLLING LAST QUESTION FOR YOU TODAY WITH RESPECT TO THE OLD AIRPORT ROAD PLAN HOW DOES THE CITY INTEND TO INCENTIVIZE INDUSTRIAL TENANTS TO MOVE OUT FROM THE AREA I KNOW IT'S EARLY IN THE PLAN BUT IS ADMINISTRATION CONCERNED ABOUT POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STEMMING FROM THE AREA'S LEGACY AS AN INDUSTRIAL PARK? MR. VAN DINE.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR WHITE TO RESPOND.
BACK TO DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES.
WE HAVE MAINTAINED, BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF THE INCENTIVES THAT WAS MOST SUBSCRIBED TO UNDER OUR PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES BY-LAW, WE ALSO HAVE INTEREST UNDER THE CURRENT INCENTIVES BY-LAW, WHEREBY WE PROVIDE A NUMBER OF BENEFITS FOR THOSE USES TO MOVE FROM OLD AIRPORT ROAD ON NOT JUST THE PURCHASE OF LAND IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, BUT PAYMENT MECHANISMS AS WELL AS THERE'S INCENTIVES FOR THE PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY TO SEE WHETHER THERE IS CONTAMINATION WHAT IT IS AND WHAT THAT CLEANUP LOOKS LIKE SO AND WE ALLOW THAT TO BE STACKED SO THERE'S MULTIPLE BENEFIT AS WELL IN OUR LEASE AGREEMENTS BECAUSE SOME OF THAT LAND THE CITY ACTUALLY OWNS THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT THE PERSON WHO HOLDS THE LEASE HAS TO RETURN IT TO THE CITY IN THE SAME STATE THAT THEY RECEIVED OF THE LAND FROM THE CITY.
SO ALL OF THOSE PIECES TOGETHER, SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A LEGAL PIECE, A LITTLE BIT OF INCENTIVE PIECE, IS ACTUALLY, THERE IS THE INTEREST IN THOSE TWO AT LEAST, IN THE OLD AIRPORT ROAD AREA TO MAKE THAT MOVE, AND THOSE CLEANUPS WILL BE DONE AS PART OF THAT PROCESS.
IT'S NOT A QUICK PROCESS, BUT THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING TO MOVE THESE PEOPLE TO THE ENGLE BUSINESS DISTRICT AREA.
COUNCILLOR FOOTE? WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER.
GLAD TO HEAR THAT THERE'S SOME FORESIGHT INVOLVED THERE.
I KNEW THERE WOULD BE, BUT JUST WANTED TO CLEAR THE AIR ON THAT.
THANKS AGAIN FOR THE UPDATE AND HOPE TO SEE MORE IN THE FUTURE.
NEXT WE HAVE COUNCILLOR PAYNE.
IN THE BEGINNING, CHARLES, YOU TALKED ABOUT BEST PLANNING PRACTICES.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT NATIONAL PLANNING PRACTICES? BECAUSE, I MEAN, SOMETIMES, I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW SOMETIMES IT DON'T MAKE SENSE HERE, RIGHT? SO WHERE ARE THOSE PRACTICES BASED FROM? MR. VAN DINE, I'LL KICK IT TO YOU FIRST.
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.SO WE DO PRACTICE BEST PLANNING PRACTICES TODAY, AND THE PROFESSION IS VERY HIGHLY TRAINED, AND DIRECTOR WHITE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE APPLICATION OF THOSE PRACTICES.
WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND IN THE PRODUCTS THAT WE PREPARE.
I WOULD JUST, BEFORE TURNING IT OVER TO DIRECTOR WHITE, JUST SIMPLY REITERATE THAT AS WE BUILT THIS PROPOSAL, WE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE CONSULTATIONS THAT OCCURRED, WHICH IS THE WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPRINT THEIR VALUES, THEIR INTERESTS, THEIR PERSPECTIVES AND THEN FROM THAT WE GATHER AND THEN ASSESS AND APPLY THOSE PRACTICES THAT THAT YOU'VE ALLUDED TO BUT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR WHITE THAT'S HER DOMAIN BUT REST ASSURED THERE WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THOSE PRACTICES ARE BENEFITING YELLOWKNIFERS EACH AND EVERY DAY. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION I WILL TRY TO JUST KEEP IT SIMPLE WHAT WE LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE APPLYING OVERALL GENERAL GOOD LAND USE PLANNING IS NOT JUST WHAT MAKES SENSE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
WE TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH FOR YELLOWKNIFE? WHAT WAS EITHER A GOAL SET OUT BY COUNCIL OR A CONSTANT COMMENT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC? AND IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THROUGH OUR POLICIES? OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE COME UP AGAINST IN YELLOWKNIFE? OUR SOLUTION DIDN'T WORK.
SO LET'S ASK SOMEONE ELSE WHO HAD THE SAME PROBLEM WHAT WORKED FOR THEM.
AND A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THE WORKER ACCOMMODATION, WHERE WE HAD A SITUATION, WE CREATED A FIX, BUT WE NEEDED SOMETHING MORE CONCRETE.
SO WHO'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR A REALLY LONG TIME? WELL, THERE'S A NUMBER OF MUNICIPALITIES IN ALBERTA WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS, AS WELL AS BRITISH COLUMBIA.
AND NORTHERN ALBERTA HAS MAYBE NOT THE EXACT SAME GEOGRAPHY AND TEMPERATURE, BUT SOME SIMILAR SITUATIONS TO DEAL WITH IN SERVICING.
SO WE LOOK TO OTHERS, SEE HOW THAT CAN AFFECT.
YEAH, WELL, I THINK CAN WE DO THE SAME THING? AND THIS WILL BE MAYBE THE FIRST TIME WE TRY IT HERE, AND WE'LL LEARN FROM THAT BECAUSE, AS I'VE ALSO SAID MANY TIMES, WE WILL PUT IN WHAT WE THINK IS THE BEST SITUATION OR THE BEST POLICY TO ADDRESS A SITUATION, AND THEN THE TRUE TEST IS OVER TIME, DID IT WORK? OR DO WE COME BACK IN FIVE YEARS WHEN WE REVIEW THE PLAN AGAIN AND SAY, OKAY.
IT WORKED, BUT HERE'S TWO TWEAKS WE NEED TO MAKE.
SO SIMILAR TO THE DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES, WHEN WE PRESENTED THAT TO COUNCIL A COUPLE YEARS AGO, WE SAID THIS IS OUR BEST GUESS RIGHT NOW.
SOME OF IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL, AND SOME OF IT'S GOING TO NEED SOME TWEAKS, AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK.
IT'S CONSTANT BECAUSE PLANNING ALWAYS CHANGES TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE ANSWER OF WHERE WE GET THAT BEST FROM, AND WE BUILD TOWARDS IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILLOR PAYNE.
JUST A COUPLE POINTS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I MEAN, I FEEL THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB WITH HELPING OUT WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ESPECIALLY THE AFFORDABLE NON-MARKET HOUSING.
SO, LIKE, YOU LOOK AT THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT'S DOWNTOWN RIGHT NOW ON 50TH, PUBLIC HOUSING, RIGHT? THAT'S NWT HOUSING OR YELLOWKNIFE HOUSING? YEAH, HOUSING NWT, WE GAVE THE LAND.
AND WHEN WE LOOK AT HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, WE GAVE OUR, I THINK, OUR LAST FOUR LOTS TO THEM.
BUT I DO FEEL THAT WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.
BUT, I MEAN, HOW MANY BARRIERS, LIKE BUILDING BARRIERS, REQUIREMENTS ARE WE PUTTING IN PLACE FOR DEVELOPERS TO HAVE TO PUT INTO THEIR DEVELOPMENT? ACTUALLY RAISING THE COST OF BUILDING AND IT'S GOING TO INCREASE RENT.
YOU KNOW, AND THEN WITH THAT BEING SAID, HOW MANY DEVELOPMENTS DO WE HINDER? YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOUR STORIES DOWN ON SCHOOL DRAW AND THERE WAS SOME COMPLAINTS PUT IN ABOUT THE STRUCTURE.
AND THEN WE REDUCED IT AS A, YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO APPEASE A GROUP OF PEOPLE, WE REDUCED IT TO THREE FLOORS.
THAT FOURTH FLOOR WOULD HAVE GONE A LONG WAY IN REDUCING THE RENT FOR THE, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE SOME MORE AFFORDABLE UNITS.
BUT SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE WE GET IN OUR OWN WAY AND WE'RE NOT REALLY WORKING AS WELL AS WHAT WE SHOULD BE WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS.
AND IT'S NOT A KNOCK ON THE CITY AT ALL.
IT'S, I THINK SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS GOALS, MAYBE WE DON'T SEE EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO SEE.
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BUT LIKE HOW DO WE AMEND THAT? HOW DO WE FIX IT? YOU KNOW, LIKE OUR GOAL, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU KNOW, ARE WE ACTIVELY LOOKING AT TAKING SOME BARRIERS OUT FOR BUILDING TO HAPPEN AT AN AFFORDABLE RATE? YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST SOME THINGS I HAVE IN MY MIND RIGHT NOW, IF YOU HAVE ANY RESPONSE TO THAT.AND YOU CAN PROVIDE A RESPONSE NOW.
AND I KNOW SOME QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN WRITTEN SIMILAR TO, SO WE'LL ALSO GET THOSE WRITTEN RESPONSES EVENTUALLY AS WELL.
BUT, MR. VAN DINE, I'LL PASS IT OVER TO YOU.
IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOURSELF OR DIRECTOR WHITE WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON.
YEAH, REAL BRIEF, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR WHITE.
SO, PLEASE KEEP AN EYE ON THAT.
AND WE'RE CERTAINLY COUNTING ON COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC AND CERTAINLY INTERESTED STAKEHOLDERS TO BE VIGILANT AS WE'RE PUTTING FORWARD POLICY PROPOSALS IN A PLAN SUCH AS THIS.
FOR THINGS THAT WE MAY UNINTENTIONALLY PUT IN PLACE THAT COULD INCREASE THE COST UNNECESSARILY.
SO THIS IS A DYNAMIC EXCHANGE, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT FOLKS ARE PAYING ATTENTION.
WE HOPE WE'RE NOT INNOVATING TO THE POINT WHERE WE OVER-INNOVATE TO CREATE AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE.
THAT BEING SAID, ONE OF THE PROPOSALS IN THIS IS TO PUT AN EMPHASIS ON HOUSING.
AND WITH THAT, WE ARE TRYING TO BE VERY OPEN AND TARGETED IN TRYING TO CREATE A SUITABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO HAPPEN AND TO HAVE THE MARKET OPERATE AS EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY AS POSSIBLE.
BUT WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR WHITE.
WHAT I WILL SAY IS I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE DECISIONS MADE BY THE DEVELOPMENT APPEAL BOARD, SO THAT'S SPECIFIC PROPERTY, SPECIFIC DECISION.
WITH REGARDS TO OUR BUILDING BY-LAW, OUR LAND ADMINISTRATION BYLAW AND OUR ZONING BYLAW, WHICH HAVE ALL BEEN RECENTLY UPDATED, AND THE BUILDING BYLAW AND ZONING ARE BEING RELOOKED AT IN LIGHT OF THE NEW COMMUNITY PLAN.
WE'RE REDUCING BARRIERS BY REDUCING THE NUMBER OF PERMITS, WHICH THEN REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO SPEND AND THE TIME AND APPLICATIONS THAT THEY NEED TO GO THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT PROCESS FROM START TO FINISH.
THE PRE-DESIGNATION OF LAND NOT ONLY SAVES DEVELOPERS TIME, IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO HOPEFULLY SAVE THE CITY TIME.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO AN AMENDMENT FOR EACH OF THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS WE WANT TO DO EITHER.
IT'S ALREADY GOING TO BE DESIGNATED.
WE'LL JUST MOVE RIGHT INTO THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT SCHEMES.
SO LOOK, WHILE REMAINING WITHIN THE LEGISLATIVE REQUIREMENTS OF WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS, NOT JUST FOR DEVELOPERS, BUT ALSO FOR THE CITY.
AND THEN WE'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FOR THIRD PARTIES TO DEVELOP THE LAND SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE CITY ALWAYS PUTTING IN THE SUBDIVISIONS.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE LAST CONVERSATION WE HAVE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THOSE STANDARD REQUIREMENTS ARE TO MAKE IT.
EQUAL PLAYING GROUND, BUT THAT IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CITY WHO HAS TO DO THAT.
AND THAT WILL HOPEFULLY GARNER SOME INTEREST FROM OUTSIDE DEVELOPERS TO ACTUALLY COME AND START DOING THE DEVELOPMENT MORE LIKE WHAT YOU SEE ELSEWHERE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILLOR PAYNE.
I MEAN, WE LOOKED AT THIS, THE HIGHWAY BUSINESS LOOP.
WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF KAM LAKE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SECTION COMING ONLINE.
HOW MANY BUSINESS DISTRICTS DO WE ACTUALLY NEED, AND CAN WE NOT EXPAND THE ONES THAT WE HAVE INSTEAD OF PUTTING A WHOLE NEW SECTION IN? MR. VAN DINE.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR WHITE.
SO IT'S NOT A BUSINESS DISTRICT.
WHAT THIS IS PARTLY, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE LAND ON SLIDE, OR IN YOUR AGENDA, PAGE 41.
WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE IS WHILE THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE OLD AIRPORT ROAD STRETCH WHEN IT SERVICED ACROSS THE HIGHWAY, THIS IS ALSO PART OF THE LANDS THAT ARE PART OF THE ACACIA WITHDRAWAL.
AND AS PART OF OUR CONVERSATIONS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT IN AND AROUND FRAME LAKE, THIS IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM THAT WE'RE PRE-DESIGNATING SO THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME IN AFTERWARDS TO DO A COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT TO GET DEVELOPMENT GOING.
IT'S ALSO SUPPORTING WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER WITH SOME FEDERAL ANNOUNCEMENTS BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE THE GATEWAY POTENTIALLY TO THAT NEW ARCTIC SECURITY CORRIDOR.
SO TRYING TO PULL ALL THIS TOGETHER, IT'S A 25-YEAR TIMEFRAME, AND THE FOCUS IS MORE SERVICE-BASED AND FACILITATING THE USE OF THE HIGHWAY NETWORK, NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN KAM LAKE, WHICH WILL BE COMING FORWARD VERY SOON.
THANKS SO MUCH COUNCILMAN PAYNE.
THAT IS IT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT WE HAVE COUNCILLOR FEQUET. THANKS
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MR. CHAIR AND THANKS FOR ALL THE HELPFUL QUESTIONS AND RESPONSES SO FAR YOU'VE DEFINITELY HELPING ME ANSWER SOME OF MY QUESTIONS SO THANKS I RECOGNIZE THAT I BELIEVE THE DIRECTION THE KIND OF SIGNAL CHECK THAT ADMINISTRATION IS LOOKING FOR IS KIND OF AT THE POLICY LEVEL TODAY.SO THAT'S WHERE I TRIED TO FOCUS MY COMMENTS.
I DO HAVE 18 TO 20, SO WE'LL SEE HOW THEY GO.
I DO RECOGNIZE ALSO THAT THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT OR ARGUABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT POLICIES THAT THE COUNCIL WEIGHS IN ON NEXT TO THE BUDGET.
SO JUST SETTING EXPECTATIONS FOR ANYBODY WHO NEEDS TO GO TO THE BATHROOM.
OKAY, SO I'M JUST GOING TO REFERENCE THE SLIDE, THE PAGE NUMBERS IN THE PDF OF THE COLD GPC PACKAGE JUST FOR CLARITY, BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE SLIDE NUMBERS ON THE SLIDE, SO JUST SO WE'RE ALL FOLLOWING ALONG.
SO I'M GOING TO START ON PAGE 43.
MY QUESTION IS, I THINK I ACTUALLY HEARD AN ANSWER TO THIS.
I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE 20 AND THE 100.
NUMBERS FOR THE UNITS THAT REQUIRE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND I THINK I HEARD A PARTIAL ANSWER THAT IT'S BASED ON CONSTRUCTION FEASIBILITY, I.E.
CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR SMALLER UNITS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE, SO 20 AND 100 RESPECTIVELY FOR THE DAYCARE REQUIREMENT WERE KIND OF JUST SIZES OF BUILDINGS THAT SEEMED TO BE OF AN ECONOMY OF SCALE THAT WAS MORE REASONABLE FOR DEVELOPERS TO SHOULDER THAT EXTRA COST OF MAKING.
10 OR 15% OF THEIR UNITS AFFORDABLE.
CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM THAT, OR IF THERE'S ANY OTHER FACTORS THAT HELP US FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE AND HOW THEY CAME TO BE? MR. VAN DINE.
I THINK FOR THIS SERIES OF QUESTIONS, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR WHITE AND MR. ALAM TO RESPOND.
YES, THE MORE UNITS THAT YOU HAVE, THE MORE ECONOMICALLY VIABLE IT IS FOR AFFORDABILITY AND HAVING THOSE AFFORDABILITY.
COSTS BUILT IN BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN SPREAD IT OUT OVER THE ADDITIONAL UNITS.
IT'S BASED ON PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENTS IN YELLOWKNIFE.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE SAYING, OH, WELL, THIS IS AFFORDABLE IN TORONTO.
NO, IT'S HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT AFFORDABLE IN YELLOWKNIFE? WHERE DID WE ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH IT, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.
IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WHEN WE HIT THIS THRESHOLD, WE WERE ABLE TO DO THIS.
AND THE DAYCARE NUMBERS ARE ALSO SPECIFICALLY BASED ON OUR UNDERSTANDING FROM THE GNWT THAT YOU WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH ON WHEN THAT KIND OF TRIGGER HITS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF NEW UNITS THAT ARE IN PLACE.
SO AGAIN, THOSE ARE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE FEEDING INTO SOME OF OUR POLICIES THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING.
AND I'LL JUST ASK IF MOHAMMAD HAS ANYTHING TO ADD.
HELLO MR. MAYOR, I JUST WANTED TO GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT.
FOR 20 UNITS OR MORE WE ARE LOOKING FOR 10% AFFORDABLE HOUSING 10 TO 15.
15 IS FOR THE CITY CORE AND FOR OTHER AREAS 10%.
WHEN WE ARE BUILDING A 20 UNIT APARTMENT LET'S SAY, WE ARE LOOKING FOR TWO UNITS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THAT TWO UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WOULD BE BASED ON OUR DEFINITION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND IF YOU LOOK AT IN OUR WEBSITE HOW WE ACTUALLY CALCULATED THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BASED ON OUR INCOME BASE IS MORE HIGHER THAN WHAT WE SEE IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS, IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
SO THE MARKET RENT AND THE AFFORDABLE RENT DIFFERENCE IS LOW THAN, I MEAN, IF YOU COMPARE IT WITH MANY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
SO WHEN WE ARE USING THE WORD AFFORDABLE, SOMETIMES WE ARE AFRAID OF THERE WILL BE A BIG GAP OF OF THE COST.
IN YELLOWKNIFE CONTEXT IT IS NOT ACTUALLY THAT AND THAT IS ALSO WE EXPERIENCED WHEN WE WORKED ON OUR DEVELOPING INCENTIVES WE GOT A LOT OF RESPONSE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THAT GAP IS ACTUALLY LESS HERE SO FROM FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE THE COST THAT WOULD BE INCURRED WOULD BE LESSER THAN MANY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND ALSO I WANT TO ADD THAT ON TOP OF THAT WE ARE ALSO OFFERING INCENTIVES SO OVERALL WHEN YOU MODERNIZE OR DEVELOP INCENTIVES WITH MANY OTHER WAYS TO INCENTIVIZE, THAT WOULD BE, I THINK, WILL HELP DEVELOPERS TO OFFSET WHATEVER THE COST THAT WOULD INCUR.
IN REGARD TO THE DAYCARE, AS MS. WHITE ALREADY MENTIONED, 100 UNIT WILL, WE ARE LOOKING AT 100 UNIT BECAUSE IT'S MORE,
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IT WOULD BE A DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS MORE A SMALL COMMUNITY.SO IN IN THAT SCALE WE CAN OFFER A DAYCARE AND BASED ON THAT WE IDENTIFIED THAT A DAYCARE MAYBE CAN BE OFFERED WITHIN THAT SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
COUNCILLOR FEQUET. THANKS FOR THAT RESPONSE AND YEAH THE REASON I WAS ASKING SO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON ACTUAL WHAT WORKED IN YOUR LIFE BECAUSE I WAS YOU KNOW, COUNCILOR WARBURTON'S, MY INTRO WAS IN MY HEAD ABOUT DOES THE MATH WORK, RIGHT? ARE THESE THE RIGHT NUMBERS? ARE WE CREATING THE RIGHT INCENTIVES? SO, AND ON THE DAYCARE FRONT TO COUNCILOR PAYNE'S POINT, I MEAN, SOMETHING THAT IS DIFFERENT, ALTHOUGH A TREND ACROSS CANADA IS, I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY LOOK AT THE LOWEST POSSIBLE NUMBER TO INCLUDE DAYCARES.
IT MIGHT BE 100, I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT NUMBER, BUT RIGHT NOW THERE IS MORE THAN A 500 PERSON WAIT LIST IN YELLOWKNIFE.
IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, LIKE, I DON'T SEE ANY 100-UNIT JOBBIES COMING UP, BUT IF 50 MAKES SENSE, IF THE COSTS WORK, WE NEED TO DO MORE TO MAKE SURE THERE'S MORE DAYCARES BECAUSE RIGHT NOW OUR CURRENT FAMILIES DON'T HAVE THOSE SERVICES.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT NUMBER AS LOW AS POSSIBLE, WHATEVER THAT IS.
MAYBE 100 IS THE LOWEST POSSIBLE, IF SOMETHING FOR STAFF.
PAGE 45 OF THE PDF WITH RESPECT TO WORKFORCE ACCOMMODATIONS.
JUST RECOGNIZING, AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE HELPFUL ADDITIONS IN THE PRESENTATION, THE DISCRETIONARY PIECE ABOUT BOTH THE LOCATION OF THOSE OUTSIDE OF PERMITTED AREAS WILL BE UP TO COUNCIL'S APPROVAL AND THE DEFINITION OF TEMPORARY.
IT'S GREAT TO HAVE A DEFINITION OF WHAT WE MEAN.
SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS, AND WE CAN DEFER IT FOR LATER IF IT DOESN'T MATTER, BUT I ASSUME YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WORKING THIS INTO THE COMMUNITY PLAN AND ALSO THE RELEVANT BYLAWS.
AND WHAT HAPPENS OR WHAT DO WE ENVISION IS THE MECHANISM FOR IF IT GOES LONGER THAN THREE YEARS, LIKE RENEWING, EXTENDING? HOW DOES THAT LOOK? HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT? MR. VAN DINE? I'LL ASK DIRECTOR WHITE TO RESPOND.
THIS IS SOMEWHAT OF A CASE WHERE THE COMMUNITY PLAN POLICY IS LOOKING TO CATCH UP AND EXPAND UPON SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE KIND OF ALREADY BEEN DOING ON A TEMPORARY BASIS.
AND AS MOHAMMAD EXPLAINED IN THE PRESENTATION, THAT TEMPORARY WOULD BE FOR SOMETHING, SO AS AN EXAMPLE, FRAME LAKE, AS THAT'S GETTING BUILT OUT, OR AS D&D IS GETTING BUILT OUT, THERE MAY NEED TO BE SOMETHING MAYBE A LITTLE CLOSER ON THE PROPERTY SO THAT THE WORKERS CAN BE RIGHT THERE AND THAT WOULD BE LESS THAN THE THREE YEARS BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO GET OFF SITE BECAUSE THEN WE'RE GOING TO BUILD SOMETHING ELSE WHERE THAT TEMPORARY LOCATION IS AND IF IT GOES BEYOND THE THREE YEARS THAT'S WHEN WE SAY OKAY IF YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE FOR 10 YEARS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A CONTRACT WITH THE SECURITY CORRIDOR YOU'RE WORKING ON THE MACKENZIE VALLEY HIGHWAY YOU'RE DOING ALL THESE THINGS LET'S FIND YOU A PLACE IN KAM LAKE SOUTH WHERE WE CAN MAKE THIS WORK FOR YOU AND GIVE YOU THE SIZE THAT YOU NEED, BECAUSE THE TEMPORARY ONES ARE LIKELY GOING TO BE THE SMALLER WORKER ACCOMMODATION, AND THE PERMANENT ONES ARE LIKELY GOING TO BE MUCH LARGER IN SCALE.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT IS ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION.
COUNCILLOR FEQUET? YEAH, SO I HEARD MOVE THEM.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO OVER YOUR THREE YEARS.
YEAH, I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE CAN AVOID SOME FRUSTRATION AND CONFUSION IN THE FUTURE FOR FUTURE COUNCILS, FOR FUTURE DEVELOPERS, FOR FUTURE CONTRACTORS SETTING UP THESE WORK CAMPS THAT MAY HAVE TO MOVE THEM IF THEIR CONTRACT GETS EXTENDED OR PROJECTS ARE DELAYED, WHICH NEVER HAPPENS UP HERE.
PAGE 46. IT'S RELATED TO WORKFORCE ACCOMMODATION AS WELL.
I WAS JUST WONDERING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL TO ALLOW WORKFORCE ACCOMMODATIONS TO USE TRUCK SERVICES.
I KNOW WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE WATER AND SEWER.
THAT'S THE PLACE WE'RE HOPING WORKFORCE ACCOMMODATIONS GO.
THINGS MAY OR MAY NOT CHANGE WITH D&D INVESTMENTS.
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE LINE OF SIGHT ON THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO ALLOW TRUCK SERVICES IF WE HAVE OTHER OPTIONS LIKE SEWER AND WATER THAT GO IN FOR OTHER REASONS IN THE FUTURE? ARE WE PRETTY SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ALLOW TRUCK SERVICES FOR WORKFORCE ACCOMMODATIONS IN THE KAM LAKE SOUTH AREA? MR. VAN DINE.
SO TRUCK SERVICES IS A VIABLE OPTION OF SERVICE DELIVERY, AND WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
WE ARE DEFINITELY ENCOURAGING, THOUGH, NEW DEVELOPMENT TO BE MORE ADJACENT TO EXISTING SERVICES.
SO THERE ARE PLANS AFOOT, AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, TO DO SOME ENGINEERING WORK TO DRAW WATER AND SEWER SERVICES.
BY PIPE TOWARDS THE AIRPORT AND WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT A REALITY AND WITH THAT FUTURE PLANNING DECISIONS WOULD BE BASED AROUND THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
BUT DIRECTOR WHITE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND?
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THANK YOU.SO YES, WE ARE AWARE WE WILL HAVE TO, IN ORDER TO SUPPORT WORKER ACCOMMODATION, HAVE TRUCKED SERVICES.
THE OTHER CONSIDERATION THAT I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO BE AWARE OF, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT SEWER AND WATER, WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE FIRE PROTECTION.
AND SO WE HAVE MECHANISMS IN PLACE THAT THE PERSON WHO IS PUTTING IN THESE WORKERS' ACCOMMODATION WILL HAVE TO MEET A SPECIFIC STANDARD BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE IS NO FIRE HYDRANT IN THE NEAR VICINITY AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE SAFE AS WELL AS OTHER EMERGENCY SERVICES THAT MAY BE REQUIRED.
SO ALL OF THOSE PIECES HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED.
WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE INDUSTRY ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, WHAT THEIR STANDARD IS, AND THAT THEY'RE USED TO PROVIDING.
SO THIS ISN'T AN OUT-OF-THE-BLUE THING.
AND, AS I SAID, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS IN THE CITY NOW.
IT IS FEASIBLE, AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT KIND OF GIVES PEOPLE THE BOX TO WORK WITHIN AND A COUPLE OPTIONS WITHIN IT.
IF THERE IS MUNICIPAL SERVICES AT SOME LOCATION HYPOTHETICALLY IN THE FUTURE, THEN OBVIOUSLY CONNECTION TO THAT IS THE MOST IDEAL.
HOWEVER, RIGHT NOW THE REALITY IS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT TRUCK SERVICES AND MAKING SURE THAT EMERGENCY FIRE PROTECTION IS AVAILABLE.
AND YOUR RESPONSE WAS VERY HELPFUL.
AND I RECOGNIZE THESE KIND OF TWO CONVERSATIONS ARE HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME.
SO I THINK YOU MADE ME REALIZE WHAT I WAS REALLY TALKING ABOUT WAS IT SAYS OR NOT FEASIBLE.
IF IT'S UNAVAILABLE, OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S A GOOD OPTION.
WE DON'T WANT TO NOT HAVE AN ACCOMMODATION COMPLEX BECAUSE IT'S NOT AVAILABLE.
IF IT'S AVAILABLE, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE NOT FEASIBLE, BECAUSE FEASIBLE JUST MEANS SOMEONE DECIDING, AND BASED ON WHAT.
AND I THINK THE CITY HAS HAD LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE PROS AND CONS AND HOW WE WISH OUR RESOURCES TO BE USED.
SO THAT WAS JUST MY, MAYBE, ADDED PRECISION TO WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT.
GOOD SEGUE, THOUGH, INTO MY NEXT QUESTION WAS ABOUT, SO THE 20 UNITS THAT WAS CHOSEN BASED ON THE 20 AND THE 100 WAS BASED ON CONSTRUCTION FEASIBILITY AND COSTS.
FOR WORKFORCE ACCOMMODATIONS, IT TALKS ABOUT 20 DEVELOPMENTS WITH MORE THAN 20 UNITS SHALL BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT AN OPERATION AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN.
I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD JUST ELABORATE ON, IS THAT BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, LIKE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS, LIKE COSTS SIMILARLY, OR IS IT ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE RESIDING OR SOME OTHER FACTORS? MR. VAN DINE, I'LL INVITE DIRECTOR WHITE TO RESPOND.
AGAIN, THIS COMES FROM NOT JUST THE INDUSTRY STANDARD AND THE MUNICIPAL REQUIREMENTS, BUT MAKING SURE THAT THE SPECIFIC CODES ARE BEING MET SO WE'VE GOT NATIONAL FIRE CODE NATIONAL BUILDING CODE ETC AND IT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT YES THAT EVERYBODY WHO IS ON THESE SITES CAN BE EITHER TRANSPORTED OR HOUSED OFF THE SITE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SITUATION OR INCIDENT IS TAKEN CARE OF IN MULTIPLE SITUATIONS MAYBE DIRECTOR MCLENNAN CAN SPEAK TO MORE DETAIL ON IT BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WHEN THEY ARE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY WE KEEP THESE SO THAT WE ARE AWARE AND OUR EMERGENCY RESPONDERS ARE AWARE FOR THAT SPECIFIC SITE HOW THEY WOULD HANDLE A SPECIFIC SITUATION.
DIRECTOR MCLENNAN, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? I'LL JUST ADD THAT A FIRE SAFETY PLAN IN PLACE IS A STANDARD REQUIREMENT FOR THESE TYPES OF OPERATIONS.
THERE'S SEVERAL RISKS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT IN ADDITION TO NATIONAL BUILDING CODE AND NATIONAL FIRE CODE AND CSA STANDARDS IF IT'S A PREFABRICATED CONSTRUCTED BUILDING.
SO YEAH WE WOULD WANT TO ENSURE THAT FOR OCCUPANCY SAFETY THAT THERE'S A PLAN IN PLACE SHOULD AN INCIDENT OCCUR PEOPLE CAN GET OUT IN A TIMELY AND SAFE MANNER.
THANKS, MR. CHAIR AND THEN JUST THE WORKING IN YK BULLITT UNDER WORKFORCE ACCOMMODATIONS, TALKING ABOUT DECOMMISSIONING PLAN, RESTORATION, REMEDIATION.
I'M JUST WEARING MY LENS OF REMOVING REGULATORY DUPLICATION AND RECOGNIZING THAT THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS THAT RELATE TO CAMP SIZE TYPICALLY THAT MIGHT BE TRIGGERED WITHIN MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES.
AND SOME OF THESE WORKFORCE ACCOMMODATIONS WILL MAY OR MAY NOT TRIGGER THAT NEED FOR A LANE USE PERMIT AND THEREFORE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS EXACT STUFF SO HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT JUST NOT HAVING REQUIREMENTS OURSELVES OR BEING CLEAR THAT OTHER TOOLS AND REQUIREMENTS MAY MAY SATISFY THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS JUST SO WE DON'T HAVE TO ASK FOR A CHOICE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS PROCESS IS ALL ABOUT TO GET INTO THE THESE PERSPECTIVES BUT AND JUST CONFERRING WITH DIRECTOR WHITE, WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE IT MORE CLEAR AS TO WHAT'S AVAILABLE AND AVOID THE POTENTIAL FOR DUPLICATION.
SO JUST THE FIRST BULLET TALKS ABOUT THE MANDATING TRAIL AND
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BUFFERS AROUND THE INTEGRITY OF FRAME LAKE.I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY WE DID NOT INCLUDE JACKFISH LAKE IN THERE AND THE OTHER TRAILS.
I'M GOING TO DIRECT IT TO MR. ALAM FOR THAT.
THROUGH MR. MAYOR, SO FOR THE FRAME LAKE, WE MENTIONED FRAME LAKE AND WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL, WE MENTIONED ABOUT JACKFISH.
SO BASICALLY BOTH APPLIES FOR THAT BUFFER REQUIREMENT.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE 15 METER BUFFER AND WHERE IT COMES FROM? MR. VAN DYKE.
THE 15 METER BUFFER IS RIGHT NOW IN OUR ZONING BYLAW REQUIREMENT, AND WE JUST WANTED TO KEEP THAT AS IT IS.
NO, THANKS FOR REFRESHING MY MEMORY WHERE THAT IS RIGHT NOW.
I WOULD JUST OFFER THEN THAT I KNOW THAT PREVIOUSLY THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE SOUGHT CLARIFICATION OF WHETHER IT SHOULD REGULATE LARGER DEVELOPMENTS UNDER THE MVRMA ITSELF OR WHETHER THAT SHOULD BE LEFT TO THE MCKENZIE VALLEY LAND WATER BOARD AND THE GIST OF THAT SUMMARY WAS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE TOOLS IN PLACE TO DO IT YET.
THE REASON I'M SHARING THAT IS BECAUSE THE STANDARD BUFFER IS ABOUT 100 METERS FROM WATERCOURSES FROM THE ORDINARY HAIR WATERMARK AND GIVEN THAT THIS HIGHWAY CORRIDOR IS GOING TO BE LIKE COMMERCIAL GAS STATIONS WHATEVER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE WE SHOULD TRY TO ALIGN I THINK WITH BEST PRACTICE AND NORTHWEST TERRITORIES LEGISLATION THAT MIGHT BE A BIT MORE STRICT GIVEN THE PRISTINE NATURE OF THE ENVIRONMENT UP HERE.
SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I WOULD OFFER TO LOOK AT ON ALL THE BUFFERS FOR LAKE SOURCES.
PAGE 48 USES THE TERM INDIGENOUS-LED HOUSING.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU HAVE ANY, IF YOU CAN SHARE WHERE THAT IS, IF THAT'S GOING TO BE DEFINED.
KNOW WHAT IT MEANS, BUT I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS ARE FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE.
LIKE, ARE WE THINKING THAT THERE MIGHT BE EXEMPTIONS TO SOME REQUIREMENTS IN THE FUTURE IF YOU'RE AN INDIGENOUS-LED HOUSING OR OTHER THINGS? SO JUST WANT TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD ON.
SO, WE'LL PROBABLY REQUIRE A COUPLE OF RESPONSES HERE.
I CERTAINLY WANT TO, ON INDIGENOUS-LED HOUSING, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO REFLECT SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING SO FAR, AND THAT IS TO TRY AND BE AN ATTRACTIVE PLACE FOR THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE TO ALLOW FOR INDIGENOUS HOUSING AND INDIGENOUS HOUSING PROJECTS.
WE'VE GOT SOME LIMITED EXPERIENCE IN THAT SPACE RIGHT NOW.
WE SEE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE IN THAT SPACE AND WORKING WITH INDIGENOUS GOVERNMENTS AS WELL AS THEIR DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS.
WITH THAT, WE JUST WANT TO BE LOOKING FORWARD DOWNSTREAM TO CREATE A SIGNAL TO BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE IS VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT THAT CREATIVE SPACE COULD LOOK LIKE.
IN TERMS OF THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS AND WHAT IT MAY INVOLVE SPECIFICALLY, WHETHER IT'S DESIGN SETBACK OR APPLICATION OF NATIONAL BUILDING CODE AND OTHER CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR WHITE AND MR. ALAM TO RESPOND TO WHAT THINKING MAY HAVE GONE INTO THAT AND TO WHAT EXTENT THAT COULD LOOK.
SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT EXEMPTIONS FROM ANY OF THE POLICIES OR ANY OF THE CODES.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COLLABORATION AND PARTNERSHIPS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE DEVELOPING IN AREAS THAT WILL BENEFIT ADJACENT RIGHTS HOLDERS AND SUPPORTING AND COLLABORATING AS CITY MANAGER SAID WITH WHETHER THAT'S INDIGENOUS GOVERNMENTS WHETHER THAT'S THE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS AS WE CAN SEE JUST ON THIS MAP WHERE THE ACACHO WITHDRAWAL LANDS ARE AND HOW OUR DEVELOPMENT WOULD OPEN UP AND SUPPORT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE SPACE BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD THROUGH OUR CONSULTATION THAT THERE IS WORK THAT WE AS THE CITY CAN DO TO YEAH HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
AND, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, IF THERE ARE INCENTIVES OR WAYS THAT WE CAN SUPPORT THEM, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO SO.
BUT WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE IT AND PUT IT OUT THERE THAT IT'S PART OF OUR THINKING.
THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR FEQUET? AWESOME.
JUST MAYBE A COMMENT, SO I CAN SKIP A QUESTION WITH THE BULLET ABOUT THE BRISTOL MONUMENT PARK AND LAKEVIEW CEMETERY TRAILS AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROTECTED.
JUST RECOGNIZING THAT THAT'S A KEY DEVELOPMENT POLICY BULLET RIGHT NOW, AND SO IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO SEE THE MAP OF WHAT TRAILS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WE'RE PROTECTING OR NOT PROTECTING.
I THINK SO WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO MISALIGNED EXPECTATIONS IN THE FUTURE IF CERTAIN TRAILS ARE DEVELOPED OR NOT.
SO THAT WOULD JUST BE SOMETHING HELPFUL.
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COMMUNITY, JUST CURIOUS WHAT POLICIES OR REQUIREMENTS SPECIFICALLY, BECAUSE IT'S IN THE POLICY.OBJECTIVE SECTION, THE ADMIN ENVISIONS WITH THAT STATEMENT TO GROW AS A 24-7.
YOU DID SHARE A LITTLE BIT IN THE PRESENTATION ABOUT COMMERCIAL ON THE GROUND AND RESTAURANTS AND BUSINESSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT I WASN'T SURE IF THERE WAS A SPECIFIC POLICY THAT YOU GUYS WERE ALSO ENVISIONING OR SOMETHING ELSE TO SUPPORT THAT STATEMENT.
MR. VAN DINE? SO THIS IS KIND OF A NEWISH LENS, I GUESS, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT ON IT.
AND PART OF IT IS RECOGNITION THAT WE'RE REALIZING THAT EITHER THROUGH AURORA TOURS OR OTHER EXPERIENCES THAT WE'RE HAVING IN THE TOURISM SECTOR, THAT THE CLOCK IS, IN FACT, 24 HOURS.
AND WHILE WE'RE NOT QUITE NEW YORK CITY, WE ARE A PLACE IN WHICH THERE ARE THINGS HAPPENING, EITHER FOR INDUSTRIAL OR OTHER SHIFT WORK THAT OCCURS, THAT YELLOWKNIFE HAS ACCESSED AND COMMERCIAL REQUIREMENTS DO EXIST IN A FULL CLOCK CYCLE.
AND I THINK THIS COMMUNITY PLAN IS REALLY LOOKING, AS IT'S ADVERTISED TO 2050, WHAT IS YELLOWKNIFE GOING TO LOOK LIKE WITH A SLIGHTLY LARGER POPULATION, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ECONOMIC BASE, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT COMPOSURE, AND PART OF THAT IS THINKING FORWARD AND THINKING AHEAD WITH RESPECT TO WHAT THAT MIGHT MEAN FOR A VARIETY OF SERVICES AS WELL AS LAND USE ACTIVITIES AND THE CLOCK AROUND THAT.
THAT'S KIND OF THE THOUGHT THERE, BUT DIRECTOR WHITE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ELABORATE? SURE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO TAKING THAT, THINKING ABOUT WAYS THAT OUR POLICIES CAN SUPPORT, WHETHER THAT'S THE CHAMBER OF BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN, THE FACILITATION OF A BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA.
THINK ABOUT YELLOWKNIFE IN FIVE OR TEN YEARS.
SAY THERE'S A POLYTECHNIC OR UNIVERSITY DOWNTOWN.
WHAT DO STUDENTS WANT TO DO WHEN THEY'RE DONE THEIR CLASSES? THEY HAVE MULTIPLE THINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO DO.
THEY'RE MAYBE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO TRANSPORT THEMSELVES AROUND TOWN.
SAY WE HAVE A NEW ART CENTER, CULTURAL CENTER, THOSE SHOWS AND PLAYS, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO HAPPEN DURING THE DAY, THEY'RE GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE WEEKEND OR AT NIGHT.
SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND HOW DO OUR POLICIES FACILITATE ALL THE SUPPORTING ECONOMY THAT MAKES THAT WHOLE VIBE WORK? SO MAYBE IT'S NOT YELLOWKNIFE TODAY, BUT WHAT ARE WE DOING TODAY SO THAT THAT YELLOWKNIFE CAN GROW IN THE FUTURE.
JUST TRIAGING, SO I DON'T NEED WRITTEN RESPONSES TO MY NEXT THREE QUESTIONS.
JUST WONDERING ABOUT THE POLICY OBJECTIVE OF PROMOTING ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY GROWTH AND PROTECTING NATURAL HERITAGE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THOSE THINGS ARE SOMETIMES AT ODDS WITH DEVELOPMENT.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE POLICY OBJECTIVE IN THE CENTRAL RESIDENTIAL, GIVEN THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO INTENSIFY IT BY ADDING 10% OF OUR NEW 2,000 PROPOSED UNITS.
MR. VAN DINE? SO THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, AND I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO COME UP REPEATEDLY OVER TIME AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLAN.
I THINK I'LL GIVE YOU THE VERY GENERAL ANSWER AND THEN LEAVE IT TO THE EXPERTS TO GIVE YOU THE MORE REFINED ANSWER.
BUT SIMPLY PUT, WE ARE BLESSED WITH A NUMBER OF NATURAL FEATURES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, AND A LOT OF THOSE FEATURES ARE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME ENHANCEMENTS IN ACCESSIBILITY THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN WITH MEASURED AND THOUGHTFUL DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN ACTUALLY INCREASE THE VALUE AND THE ENJOYMENT OF THOSE PLACES.
THE THOUGHT OF HAVING AN AREA UNTOUCHED THAT CAN BE ACCESSIBLE ONLY THROUGH THOSE DETERMINED INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE WILLING TO DO THE BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS AND BUSHWHACKING TO GET THE EXPERIENCE IS ONE WAY OF DOING IT, BUT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS IN AN URBAN SETTING THAT CAN ALLOW AN ENJOYMENT OF SOME OF THOSE NATURAL FEATURES WITH THOUGHTFUL DESIGN, WITH THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION, WITH THOUGHTFUL SETBACKS, WITH THOUGHTFUL ENHANCEMENTS AND IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE GENERAL PRACTICE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO INFUSE THROUGHOUT THIS PLAN, RECOGNIZING THAT YELLOWKNIFE DOES SIT IN A VERY UNIQUE ECOSYSTEM THAT THAT PEOPLE COME AND ENJOY AND AND WANT TO CELEBRATE AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE ABLE TO ENJOY THOSE VALUES BUT PERHAPS ALLOW OTHERS TO ENJOY IT AS WELL SO WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR WHITE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND JUST SO YOU KNOW COUNCILLORC FEQUET, ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS WILL BE IN THE CHART WITH A RESPONSE SO JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR AND NEXT WEEK, I WILL HAVE, MOHAMMAD IS GOING TO BE DOING A PRESENTATION THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE OUR MORE WHOLE SUMMARY AND OVERVIEW OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND CLIMATE CHANGE POLICIES.
SO YOU WILL START TO SEE HOW WHAT YOU'RE ASKING TODAY CONNECTS TO THAT BROADER PICTURE.
BUT WHAT I WANT THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL
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TO REMEMBER IS YOU DON'T HAVE TO THINK OF IT AS HAVING ONE OR THE OTHER.THERE IS A WAY FOR THEM TO WORK TOGETHER AND FOR US AS A COMMUNITY AND YOU AS COUNCIL TO HAVE THOSE POLICIES THAT GUIDE THAT.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING TO DO.
BUT THAT BIGGER CONVERSATION, IF I COULD, I WILL PRESS PAUSE AND ANSWER IT NEXT WEEK.
THERE'S A WAY TO MESH THOSE TWO.
I JUST WAS CURIOUS HOW WE WERE DOING THAT.
I'M SORRY I WON'T BE ABLE TO JOIN NEXT WEEK, BUT I WILL CERTAINLY SUBMIT QUESTIONS WHEN THE MATERIALS CAME OUT.
FOR THE PAGE 55, I GUESS WE'RE ON OLD AIRPORT ROAD.
I'M JUST, THERE'S A BULLET ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVE LAND THAT IS DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP BECAUSE OF GROUND MOVEMENT, PERMAFROST, OR RISK OF EROSION, AND DEDICATED OPEN SPACE.
I'M JUST, IF WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE IT, I GUESS A SUGGESTION MOVING FORWARD TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A MAP THAT IDENTIFIES WHERE WE UNDERSTAND THOSE AREAS TO BE, IF THOSE ARE AREAS TO BE AVOIDED.
SO I SEE SOME NODDING, SO THANKS, MR. VAN DINE.
PAGE 56, SO THIS IS THE OLD AIRPORT ROAD, THE THIRD BULLET UNDER POLICY OBJECTIVES.
I ACTUALLY JUST WAS HOPING YOU COULD ELABORATE ON WHAT THIS MEANS.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS MEANS.
I UNDERSTAND THE HOSPITAL'S OLD STANTON AND THE REHAB BUILDING IS THERE, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE POLICY OBJECTIVE BULLET IS INTENDING TO CONVEY.
SO I'M HOPING YOU CAN JUST ENLIGHTEN ME.
MR. VAN DINE? I'LL INVITE DIRECTOR WHITE TO RESPOND.
AND THIS IS A GREAT QUESTION, AND THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW POLICIES IN ONE AREA, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO NEGATIVE IMPACT TO SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW IS IN ANOTHER AREA.
SO THE HOSPITAL, THE FAMILY CLINIC IS KIND OF ON THE BACKLANDS, NOT SPECIFICALLY IN THE OLD AIRPORT ROAD, BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SERVICES THAT COME OFF OF OLD AIRPORT ROAD THAT WE NEED TO MAINTAIN AND PROTECT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACTING THE HOSPITAL.
SO IF SOMEONE WERE TO REDEVELOP A PROPERTY IN THAT AREA, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ACCESS IN AND OUT IS MAINTAINED IN A WAY THAT WE'RE NOT DELAYING ANY SERVICE THAT MAYBE HAS TO BE PROVIDED AT THE HOSPITAL.
THERE'S RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE AREA THAT IS USED BY PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT THOSE HEALTH SERVICES.
SO IT'S MAKING SURE THAT WHATEVER WE'RE PLANNING IS EITHER SUPPORTING OR ENHANCING, BUT NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACTING.
BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT'S ON THOSE BACKLANDS AND WE NEED TO KEEP THEM BECAUSE THEY SERVICE NOT JUST YELLOWKNIFE, BUT ALL OF THE TERRITORY.
SO IT'S KIND OF A PROTECTION POLICY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
YEAH, SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION, BUT WE CAN ELABORATE MORE WHEN WE PROVIDE THAT RESPONSE.
I JUST NOTICED THAT IT MENTIONS INCENTIVIZING TO MEDIUM AND HIGH DENSITY, BUT THAT IS ABSENT FROM SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS WHERE I ASSUME THAT IT SHOULD BE TRUE AS WELL, LIKE THE CITY CORE AND THE CENTRAL RESIDENTIAL.
SO JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD ELABORATE ON THAT.
WHY IT ISN'T IN THE OTHER POLICY.
I'LL DIRECT IT TO DIRECTOR WHITE TO RESPOND.
SO IF I'M GETTING THE QUESTION RIGHT, AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO HERE IS A LOT OF WHAT IS ALONG OLD AIRPORT ROAD, ESPECIALLY ONCE YOU GET KIND OF PAST WHERE WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, IT'S ALL SINGLE-STORY, MALL-LIKE WITH LARGE PARKING LOTS.
SO YOU COULD SAY THAT IT'S NOT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THOSE PROPERTIES.
AND SO SHOULD THEY BE REDEVELOPED, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THERE'S MUNICIPAL SEWER AND WATER.
TO CREATE A MORE INTENSE DEVELOPMENT AND INCLUDE SOME MIXED USES AT THOSE LOCATIONS.
SO I HOPE I'M ANSWERING THAT QUESTION.
AND THEN LATER ON, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 25 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, SHOULD MUNICIPAL SERVICES BE PUSHED THE WHOLE WAY, THEN THAT SAME RULE WOULD APPLY TO THOSE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE EITHER, A, VACANT, BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE CURRENTLY VACANT ALONG THAT STRETCH, AS WELL AS SOME THAT ARE SINGLE-STORY.
AND, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT'S HOW THEY WERE DEVELOPED, THAT'S HOW THEY'RE FUNCTIONING NOW.
BUT PUTTING THE OPPORTUNITY THERE MAY MAKE THOSE DESIRABLE FOR REDEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE, SHOULD THERE BE MUNICIPAL SERVICES.
COUNCILLOR FEQUET? OKAY, JUST JUMPING DOWN A FEW HERE.
MOVING ON TO MINERAL EXTRACTION, PAGE 58.
WHAT'S THE HIGHLIGHTED MINERAL EXTRACTION AREA BASED ON? HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THAT FOOTPRINT? MR. VAN DINE.
I'LL, I THINK THERE WAS A MINE THERE BEFORE, BUT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR WHITE.
ONE, IF YOU GO TO THE CURRENT COMMUNITY PLAN AND THE PREVIOUS GENERAL PLAN, THIS IS ALL THE SAME LAND AREA THAT WAS INCLUDED AS THE CON MINE IN OUR CURRENT PLAN.
ONE THING WE ARE CONSIDERING AND HAVING THE CONVERSATION
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ABOUT IS THOSE HOUSES THAT ARE IN THERE AND WHETHER THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY HAVE A DIFFERENT DESIGNATION FOR THOSE, WHETHER THAT'S RESIDENTIAL CENTRAL BECAUSE THEY'RE CURRENTLY ZONED R1.SO WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR THEM? BECAUSE THEY EXIST AND WE KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
WHAT IT ALSO IS BASED ON IS THE SUBSURFACE RIGHTS AND THE LEASES.
SO ALL OF THIS LAND IS ACTUALLY LEASED COMMISSIONER'S LAND.
AND SO THIS IS THE PARCEL OUTLINE.
IF YOU PUT ALL THOSE PIECES OF LEASES TOGETHER, THAT'S WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.
THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR FEQUET? AWESOME.
THE THIRD BULLET UNDER POLICY OBJECTIVES.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THE POLICY OBJECTIVE, WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT MONITORING MEASURES, IS RELATED TO REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WOULD PUT ON DEVELOPERS OR IF THOSE ARE MEANT TO TALK ABOUT MONITORING MEASURES THAT THE CITY WILL TAKE ON TO ENSURE THAT THINGS ARE BEING USED AS THEY SHOULD.
DIRECTOR WHITE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND? SORRY, YES.
SO THESE ARE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE NOT PUT IN PLACE BY THE CITY.
WE ARE NOT THE AUTHORITY WHEN IT COMES TO MINERAL EXTRACTION APPROVALS.
SO IT WOULD BE THE SHARING OF INFORMATION, WHICH THE CURRENT LEASEHOLDERS ARE GREAT WITH, AS WELL AS THE GNWT AND THE MACKENZIE VALLEY LAND AND WATER BOARD.
EVERYBODY WHO'S INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS, THERE'S OTHER REQUIREMENTS.
SO THIS IS US SAYING, HEY, IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT IF ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IS SHARED.
AND TO DATE IT HAS BEEN, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ONGOING REMEDIATION THAT'S ON THE SITE.
SO IT APPLIES NOT JUST WITH EXTRACTION PROCESSES AND RULES AND REGULATIONS, BUT ALSO THE REMEDIATION THAT IS REQUIRED AS PART OF THAT LEASEHOLDING.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF TWO PIECES COMING TOGETHER, NOT OUR LEGISLATION, NOT OUR AUTHORITY.
UNDER THE KEY DEVELOPMENT POLICIES FOR MINERAL EXTRACTION, COULD ADMIN SHED SOME LIGHT JUST ON WHAT IS INTENDED BY LONG-TERM PUBLIC INTEREST AND WHETHER THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE INTENDING TO DEFINE IN OUR POLICIES.
SO I'LL RESPOND WITH WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT LONG-TERM PUBLIC INTEREST IN ALL THAT WE DO.
SO THAT'S NOT JUST WITH RESPECT TO THIS PARTICULAR PLANNING PROPOSAL.
WITH RESPECT TO THE MINING EXTRACTION, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT YELLOWKNIFE'S HAD A LONG HISTORY IN IN MINING AND THAT IS OUR ORIGIN.
IT'S BEEN QUITE SOME TIME THAT WE'VE HAD AN ACTIVE MINING ACTIVITY HAPPENING WITHIN OUR CITY BOUNDARIES.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE POSSIBILITY OF THAT HAPPENING AGAIN OR AT LEAST WANT TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
BUT WE ALSO WANT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT INDUSTRIAL PRACTICES AND COMMUNITY LIVING HAS CHANGED SINCE WE'VE HAD THOSE ACTIVITIES HAPPENING WITHIN CITY BOUNDARIES.
SO THE STATEMENT IN ESSENCE IS TO SIGNAL TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, TO POTENTIAL INVESTORS AS WELL AS THOSE POTENTIALLY EMPLOYED IN THESE AREAS THAT WE WILL BE ACTIVELY LOOKING TO ENSURE THAT WHEN DECISIONS ARE TAKEN TO SUPPORT SUCH THINGS, WHEN DECISIONS ARE TAKEN TO DO DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ADJACENT TO OR SUPPORTING SUCH THINGS, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LONG-TERM IMPACT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING A BALANCED APPROACH, A PRUDENT APPROACH, A SAFE APPROACH THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE LONG-TERM ECONOMIC, SOCIAL, AND POLITICAL INTERESTS AS WELL AS ENVIRONMENTAL FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND, I MEAN, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE REASON I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA, IS BECAUSE MY GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF FUZZY AND GRAY IN OUR COMMUNITY PLAN AND I KNOW THAT IN THE WORLD THAT I WORK IN LONG YOU KNOW PUBLIC INTEREST IS A IS A THING THAT A ADMINISTRATIVE TRIBUNAL HAS TO DECIDE ON AND I JUST AM WONDERING IF WE ENVISION HAVING SOME CLARITY AROUND WHAT THAT MEANS OR IT'S REALLY UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE COUNCIL OF THE DAY AND THAT'S ALL I WAS LOOKING FOR AND JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE THOSE CAN BE VERY TOUCHY LEGAL LEGAL TOPICS I I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT JUST MY LAST QUESTION, I GUESS, FOR TODAY.
WHY IS ADMIN PROPOSING A KEY DEVELOPMENT POLICY ABOUT BUFFERS ABOVE AND BEYOND THOSE THAT WILL BE REQUIRED, ASSUMING LIKE MINING AND PUBLIC HEALTH LEGISLATION WILL HAVE THEIR OWN BUFFERS? SO DO WE NEED OUR OWN ADDITIONAL POLICY ON THAT, OR IS IT, YEAH, IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT.
DIRECTOR WHITE, BUT SUFFICE IT TO SAY IS THAT WE'VE HAD A FAIR AMOUNT OF PUBLIC INPUT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS EXERCISE SO FAR.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN REOCCURRING, BOTH THROUGH THIS EXERCISE AND THROUGH OTHER COMMUNITY CONSULTATIONS IN THE PAST, BUFFERS ARE SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY IS CONCERNED ABOUT.
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THAT WE ARE REFLECTING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD, AND WHERE THERE'S EMPHASIS AND POINTS OF INTEREST.WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO OVERLY BUFFER, BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS THAT BUFFERS ARE SOMETHING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS CONTEMPLATING AND INTEGRATING INTO THIS CURRENT COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATE PROPOSAL.
IT'S BECAUSE SOME OF THE REGULATORY BUFFERS WOULD BE ON THE SITE THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED WHERE, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY A PERFECT MAP UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT HERE, HYPOTHETICALLY.
IF THERE WAS AN ACTIVE MINE THERE AND THERE WAS A BUFFER THAT WAS REQUIRED BY THE REGULATOR ON THE MINE SITE, WHAT DOES TAYLOR ROAD THEN LOOK LIKE? IT MAY NOT REQUIRE A VEGETATED BUFFER, SO WE AS THE MUNICIPALITY MAY SAY, BUT FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO MAY LIVE IN FUTURE TAYLOR ROAD, THEY MIGHT WANT A VEGETATED BUFFER, SO WHEN YOU'RE SITTING ON YOUR BACK DECK AND YOU'RE LOOKING OUT, YOU'RE NOT TAKING A LOOK AT A BIG EXPANSE OF A BUFFER, BUT THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
IT'S JUST GRAVEL OR WHERE IT'S A BERM RIGHT I MEAN WHO HERE THINKS THAT BERMS ARE REALLY PRETTY NOT THIS PERSON SO THERE'S IT'S A BUFFER THAT IT COULD BE AN ENVIRONMENTAL IT COULD BE TREED IT COULD BE VEGETATIVE THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS BUT IT'S ON NOT NECESSARILY THE SITE THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED SO IT'S JUST THAT THAT CONSIDERATION WAS HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC IN THE COMMENTS THAT THEY GAVE US THANK YOU THANK YOU MAKE SENSE AND MUST EAT YOUR PATIENTS THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCILLOR MCGURK HELLO, THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE ON THIS.
IT'S A VERY COMPREHENSIVE DOCUMENT, LOTS OF RED TEXT.
I'LL JUST GET INTO SOME QUESTIONS.
I IMAGINE THE SPECIAL MANAGEMENT AREA IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT NEXT TIME.
SO I GUESS BACK TO HOUSING TARGETS.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE.
I KNOW PEOPLE REALLY WANT SINGLE-DETACHED, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS, BUT SPRAWL AND FOOTPRINT AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ARE SERIOUS CONCERNS FOR ME.
AND AS MUCH AS PEOPLE WANT THOSE THINGS, AND I KNOW THAT THEY DO AND CAN ATTRACT RESIDENTS, I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD PUT EMPHASIS ON CURBING, AND MAYBE WE CAN DO THAT THROUGH OUR TARGETS.
RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER.
WE DO HAVE EMPHASIS ON SUPPORTING MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING IN OTHER AREAS IN THE DOCUMENT, BUT EVEN I THINK THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF EMPHASIS, NOT AS MUCH EMPHASIS ON THAT IN THE GREENFIELD EXPANSION PART OF THE DOCUMENT, MOSTLY JUST IN THE, I THINK IT'S IN THE NEWER REDEVELOPMENT AND UNDERUTILIZED LANDS.
SO IT WOULD BE NICE TO MAYBE FIND A WAY TO PRIORITIZE IT MORE AND DE-EMPHASIZE THE DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY'RE NICE, BUT THEY'RE SELFISH.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CARE TO RESPOND, BUT I THINK THAT YOU GET THE IDEA.
GO AHEAD AND ASK ANY QUESTIONS.
THE OTHER ONE THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS LAND USE DESIGNATIONS SO THAT THE 15-METER BUFFER ZONE, PARTICULARLY AROUND FRAME LAKE, IS INSUFFICIENT TO COVER THE MAJORITY OF THE EXISTING TRAIL.
IN THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL SECTION, IT'S IT SPECIFIES THAT THE TRAIL SYSTEM WILL NOT BE IMPACTED BY DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT DOES NOT SPECIFY THAT IN THE FRAME LAKE GREENFIELD EXPANSION PORTION.
SO I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT, BECAUSE IF THE 15-METER BUFFER IS MAINTAINED ACROSS, THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOSING, I THINK.
I MEAN, I DIDN'T MEASURE IT, BUT IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT IT AND PULL SOME MEASUREMENTS.
I THINK IT'S PROBABLY OVER 80% OF THE TRAIL EXCEEDS 15 METERS OFF THE SHORELINE.
SO, YEAH, I'M WONDERING IF YOU COULD
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SPEAK TO THE EXISTING TRAIL AND MAINTAINING THE TRAIL SYSTEM ON THAT NORTH SIDE.GREAT QUESTION AND OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY.
I WANT TO SPEAK TO YOU HERE BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY TWO OPTIONS HERE.
THE FIRST IS THE LAND THAT WE HAVE REQUESTED, WE'VE REQUESTED TO THE SHORELINE.
BUT THE HISTORICAL UNDERSTANDING IS THAT SOMETIMES WHEN LAND IS TRANSFERRED, THERE IS A, LIKE THEY KEEP A BAND, WE'LL CALL IT, ALONG THE SHORELINE.
THE 15 METERS WOULD BE FROM THAT, OKAY? HOWEVER, THAT BEING SAID, IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL AND DO GET IT TO THE SHORELINE, THEN THAT WILL HAVE TO BE A CONVERSATION THROUGH THE AMENDMENT TO THE AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THAT REALLY DOES PROTECT THE TRAIL AS TO WHETHER AS PART OF DEVELOPING IT WE ARE GOING TO UNDERTAKE THE MOVEMENT OF THE TRAIL IN SOME LOCATIONS BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT THERE THERE'S NUMEROUS LOCATIONS WHERE IT DOES EXCEED THAT 15 METERS AND WHAT IS THE TOPOGRAPHY AT THOSE LOCATIONS THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT CONTINUUM BASICALLY FROM WHERE IT STARTS AT THE CORNER OF CO-OP ALL THE WAY AROUND AND CONNECTS TO THE OTHER SIDE.
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND ALSO THE OTHER TRAILS THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF, WHICH DO GO PAST THE CEMETERY AND UP TOWARDS THE MONUMENT.
ALL OF THAT RIGHT NOW IS INCLUDED IN THAT CAPITAL AREA DEVELOPMENT PLANT, WHICH IS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW.
AND AN AMENDMENT TO THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS AT THAT TIME.
SO THERE'S TWO OPTIONS DEPENDING ON OUR SUCCESS IN GAINING THE TITLE TO THE LAND HERE.
AND ALL OF THOSE DECISIONS WELL REFLECTED AND INCLUDED IN POLICIES HERE WILL COME TO COUNCIL AS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT COMES FORWARD AND AT THAT TIME THOSE CONVERSATIONS CAN I GUESS FURTHER BE DELVED INTO THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILOR MCGURK? GREAT, YEAH THANKS I APPRECIATE THAT I THINK THAT I WOULD BE I MEAN I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT I MEAN MAYBE THAT IS A FURTHER YEAH THERE'S FURTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO MOVE THE TRAIL OR MAKE LIKE HOW WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE CONTINUITY THERE, OBVIOUSLY I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW IMPORTANT IT IS AND HOW WELL USED IT IS.
IT DOES SPECIFICALLY SAY IN THE POLICIES AROUND THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL AREA UNDER NATURAL YK THAT THE BRISTOL MONUMENT PARK, LAKEVIEW CEMETERY, AND THE TRAILS CONNECTED SHALL BE PROTECTED FROM DEVELOPMENTS.
IT'S NOT JUST IN THE AREA OF DEVELOPMENTS, ALSO IN THIS DOCUMENT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CONSIDER ADDING FOR THE FRAME LAKE OR HOWEVER WE FRAMED IT, YEAH, FRAME LAKE RESIDENTIAL.
AND IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A FURTHER OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS KIND OF INTERESTED IN, AND MAYBE IT'S NOT SUPER RELEVANT IN THIS DOCUMENT, BUT I SORT OF SEE A PLACE FOR IT HERE.
MAYBE YOU CAN CONFIRM OR DENY OR TELL ME DIFFERENTLY.
CO-OP HOUSING IS MENTIONED VERY, LIKE, IT'S VERY SMALL SORT OF MENTION, AND IT'S ENCOURAGED, BASICALLY, IS, I THINK, THE LANGUAGE THAT IS USED.
BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, IT DOESN'T REALLY SEEM TO FIT IN THE, OH, SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN MORE IN MY NOTES ABOUT THE, IN THE HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION, TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT SORT OF SECTIONS OF THAT DOESN'T REALLY FALL INTO ANYTHING OTHER THAN MAYBE SHELTERS AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE COOPERATIVE HOUSING IS LISTED.
AND ALSO IN THAT, IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT THE CITY WILL AVOID OVER-CONCENTRATION OF THIS TYPE OF HOUSING.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO GIVE IT SOME MORE MEAT, GIVE CO-OP HOUSING, GIVE IT MORE OF A CHANCE, BUT IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT HAS VERY MUCH ROOM TO BE ENCOURAGED.
DOES THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE ANY COMMENT RELATED TO THIS? NO, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS CONVERSATION IS.
WE'RE HOPING TO GLEAN FROM IT.
WITH RESPECT TO THE CO-OP HOUSING.
ONE OF THE RATIONALES FOR THE LACK OF INK PERHAPS ON THIS IS THAT CO-OPS SIMILAR
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TO THINGS LIKE CONDOMINIUM ARE AN OWNERSHIP KIND OF DESIGNATION AS OPPOSED TO A TYPE OF SPECIFIC USE OR STRUCTURE.SO THAT'S PART OF THE RATIONALE.
I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE IN THE BIZ TO TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE NUANCE BETWEEN THE OWNERSHIP AND AND WHAT'S EXPECTED SO WITH WITH THE COMMENTS MADE TODAY WE CAN LOOK AT HOW WE CAN ADJUST THE LANGUAGE TO EXPLAIN THAT MAYBE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND AND WHERE IT MIGHT THAT MIGHT BE ACCOMMODATED SO IT'S NOT MISINTERPRETED AS BEING LESS SUPPORTIVE. COUNCILOR MCGURK? THANK YOU. YEAH. THAT'S GREAT.
THIS IS A VERY WELL-CONSIDERED DOCUMENT.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FUTURE CONVERSATIONS, GOING OVER TRANSPORTATION AND ENVIRONMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR TODAY? NO, I WILL LEAVE ONE COMMENT.
I DO THINK MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING IS SOMETHING.
I KNOW THAT ADMINISTRATION, THAT HAS BEEN REFLECTED IN WHAT I'VE SEEN FROM THEM AND THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND YEAH, I JUST HOPE THAT REAL MEMBERS ALSO APPRECIATE THAT, THE NEED FOR THAT AND CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THAT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN DETACHED SINGLE DWELLINGS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILLOR MCGURK.
YEAH, THANKS TO ALL THE STAFF.
THIS IS A A BIG LIFT AND YEAH WITH CHANGES GOING ON MID-PROJECT.
YEAH SO THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK.
SO I HAVE SOME COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS IF I'M MAKING A COMMENT AND YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN AND GIVE YOUR PERSPECTIVE PLEASE INTERRUPT ME.
SO FIRST ONE PAGE 64 OF THE DOCUMENT THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT WAS ONE THAT NEAR THE START OF OUR TERM WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT UPDATING THAT.
JUST LOOKING TO GET AN UPDATE ON WHERE THAT CONVERSATION IS.
IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE AN UPDATED LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FOR AN UPDATED COMMUNITY PLAN.
MR. VAN DIKE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE ABSOLUTELY WILL BE COMING FORWARD VERY SOON BASED ON SOME ADVICE ON OUR PATH FORWARD REPORT THAT WE HAD RECEIVED FROM MS. TARANJO.
AND WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING TO COUNCIL AND I'LL PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE AS TO WHEN THAT WILL BE COMING FORWARD.
ON PAGE 71, AND THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT SPOTS IN THE DOCUMENT WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THINGS LIKE ENCOURAGING LOW CARBON AND CLIMATE RESILIENT DEVELOPMENTS.
I'D JUST LIKE TO ENCOURAGE, LIKE, THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE RETROFIT PROGRAM.
BASICALLY, WE AS COUNCIL AND ADMIN CAME TO A CONCLUSION THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THE CITY CAN TAKE ON IN TERMS OF, LIKE, MEANINGFUL INCENTIVES, AND THOSE INCENTIVES WERE REMOVED FROM DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES.
SO PERHAPS THIS IS IN THE NEXT DISCUSSION, BUT I'M JUST VERY WARY OF PUTTING IN SORT OF JUST NICE LANGUAGE THAT ISN'T GROUNDED IN ANY ACTUAL PRACTICAL THING.
AND TO THAT, ON PAGE 75, IT MENTIONS THE NATURAL AREA PRESERVATION STRATEGY AS ONE OF THE THINGS BEING USED TO SORT OF FORMULATE THE DOCUMENT.
AND I WOULD PROPOSE REMOVING THAT JUST BECAUSE SEVERAL AREAS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS NATURAL AREAS TO BE KEPT IN THAT PLAN HAVE BEEN PROPOSED FOR INFILL.
AND THIS CONTEMPLATES DEVELOPMENT ON TIN CAN HILL.
SO IT'S JUST MY VIEW THAT THAT'S STRATEGY ISN'T BEING MEANINGFULLY USED TO INFORM PLANNING ANYMORE.
AND AHEAD, IN A FEW DIFFERENT SPOTS IN THE DOCUMENT, UNITS PER HECTARE IS A BIG TERM, AND IT SPECIFIES MINIMUM INTENSITY TARGETS BASED ON THAT.
SO I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT SOME EXAMPLES FROM THE COMMUNITY BE PROVIDED, AND PERHAPS LIKE PICTURES OF WHAT DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS WOULD BE LIKE THAT MEET THOSE TARGETS JUST FOR UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE YEAH JUST THE ABSTRACT NUMBER IT ISN'T USABLE TO SOMEONE WHO ISN'T IN DEVELOPMENT AND THEN SPECIFICALLY ON THAT IN PAGE 121 THE 65 UNIT PER HECTARE MINIMUM FOR CENTRAL RESIDENTIAL JUST WONDERING LIKE AND WHERE THAT CAME FROM AND HOW THAT APPLIES, SO IT SAYS NEW RESIDENTIAL WOULD HAVE TO MEET THAT MINIMUM, JUST BASED ON SOME MATH AND EMAILS GOING AROUND, SUMMIT CONDOS IS 31.5 UNITS PER HECTARE, SO SPECIFYING A MINIMUM OF DOUBLE SUMMIT CONDO INTENSITY FOR AREAS LIKE TAYLOR ROAD, FOREST DRIVE, SCHOOL DRAW AND TIN CAN HILL
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JUST FEELS VERY INTENSE AND A MINIMUM THAT IS TOO HIGH FOR ME AND I THINK FOR A LOT OF RESIDENTS.SO MAYBE JUST AN EXPLANATION OF WHERE THAT CAME FROM AND SORT OF HOW IT WOULD BE APPLIED TO NEW RESIDENTIAL.
SO SPECIFICALLY THE QUESTION AROUND THE INTENSIFICATION ON THAT, BUT I'M SURE IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE ON ANY PREVIOUS COMMENTS, OVER TO YOU, MR. VAN DINE THANK YOU.
THERE ARE SOME GREAT COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS THERE WITH RESPECT TO MAKING IT MORE USER-FRIENDLY AND UNDERSTANDABLE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE MEAN BY THOSE RATIOS, WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE ON BOARD.
WE DO HAVE EXAMPLES THAT WE COULD PROBABLY INCLUDE IN FUTURE DOCUMENTS THAT ILLUSTRATE THE CONCEPTS THAT ARE BEING DESCRIBED.
WITH RESPECT TO THE LAST QUESTION ON THE 65 UNITS PER HECTARE, I'LL INVITE DIRECTOR WHITE AND MR. ALAM TO RESPOND.
MOHAMMAD'S GOING TO GIVE YOU A FEW EXAMPLES OF PLACES WITHIN THE CITY RIGHT NOW AND WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THOSE UNITS PER HECTARE LOOK LIKE ON SAY AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY VERSUS LIKE WHAT IS THE NEST SO I WILL PASS IT OVER TO YOU TO GIVE SOME EXAMPLES.
THROUGH MR. MAYOR JUST TO PROVIDE THE CONTEXT WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 65 UNIT PER HECTARE IT ACTUALLY WILL BE MORE DETAILED IN THE ZONING BYLAW REQUIREMENT BUT I'M GIVING YOU SOME CONTEXT SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE IT COMES FROM FOR A STANDARD LOT IN THE CENTRAL RESIDENTIAL AREA WE HAVE 15 BY 30 METER WHICH IS YOU GET TO PROBABLY 0.045 HECTARE.
IF WE CONSIDER THAT PARTICULAR LOT THEN YOU HAVE IF YOU REDEVELOP THAT LOT WITH THE 65 MINUTE PER HECTARE REQUIREMENT YOU NEED TO HAVE ONE SINGLE LITRE DWELLING AND TWO SECONDARY DWELLING UNIT.
SO IT'S ALREADY BEEN PERMITTED IN OUR CURRENT ZONING BYLAWS.
SO THAT IS IN THE SMALLER SCALE.
NOW IF WE GO TO THE LARGER SCALE, IT WOULD BE DEPENDING ON HOW THE ZONING BYLAW IS CRAFTED.
BUT I'M GIVING YOU SOME EXAMPLES.
FOR THE NEST PROPERTY, WE HAVE 72 UNITS AND DENSITY IS 500 UPH, MORE THAN 500 UPH, BECAUSE IT'S COMPACT DEVELOPMENT.
FOR A CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT LIKE SUMMIT, WE HAVE TO ORGANIZE THE DESIGN IN A WAY SO THAT IT CAN PROVIDE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, COMMUNITY SITES LIKE COMMUNITY FACILITIES, EDUCATION FACILITIES.
IT ALREADY HAS THERE, BUT DURING THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WE WILL IDENTIFY THOSE AREAS.
WHAT ARE THE M&T AREAS PROVIDED, WHAT ARE THE ROADS AND OTHER FACILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED.
SO THOSE AREAS WILL BE EXCLUDED.
SO IF THOSE ARE EXCLUDED, THEN AUTOMATICALLY YOUR PH, YOUR DENSITY WILL BE INCREASED.
SO THAT'S HOW ACTUALLY IT WILL BE DESIGNED WHEN YOU DO THE ZONING BYLAW.
AND IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE PIECE TO EXPAND ON WHAT MOHAMMAD IS SAYING.
SO NEST CAME IN AT 72 UNITS WITH THIS PROPOSED INTENSITY.
THEY WOULD HAVE ONLY BEEN REQUIRED TO DO 14.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE DIFFERENCE.
SO WHEN YOU SAY IT'S A LOT ON THE CONTEXT OF A SITE, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AS BIG AS WE THINK IT IS.
JUST TO ADD ONE MORE THING, THAT'S FOR 100 UNITS PER HECTARE.
SO IT'S EVEN LESS FOR 65 UNITS PER HECTARE.
THAT'S VERY HELPFUL, ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF THE SINGLE A STANDALONE HOUSE WITH A COUPLE OF SECONDARY DWELLINGS, THAT'S MUCH MORE HELPFUL IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO IT STILL FEELS LIKE A LOT AS A MINIMUM TO ME, AND STIPULATING THAT IN THE COMMUNITY AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL DOCUMENT FEELS RISKY TO SOME EXTENT.
SO YEAH, SOME EXAMPLES SPECIFICALLY HOW THAT MINIMUM WOULD PLAY OUT IN DIFFERENT AREAS WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL, AND YOU MENTIONED SOME THERE.
SO A LITTLE BIT FLESHING OUT OF THAT JUST SO I CAN WRAP MY HEAD AROUND IT AND SO RESIDENTS CAN WRAP THEIR HEAD AROUND IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT DETAIL.
THERE'S A FEW AREAS, AND COUNCILLOR FEQUET MENTIONED THIS, WHERE THINGS ARE CITED LIKE IN CENTRAL RESIDENTIAL REGARDING ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LAND, AND THERE ARE OTHER ONES.
SO IN THE OLD TOWN DESIGNATION, IT MENTIONS.
PRESERVED NATURAL AREAS IN THE, I FORGET WHAT AREA THIS IS, BUT IN ANOTHER IT TALKS ABOUT WILDFIRE RISK AREAS.
AND IN THE WORKFORCE ACCOMMODATION SECTION, IT MENTIONS WOODLANDS TO BE PROTECTED.
SO JUST LOOKING FOR SPECIFICS, MAPS SHOWING WHERE THESE PLACES
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ARE, SENSITIVE LAND.YEAH, JUST IS THE INTENT TO QUANTIFY THAT OR HAVE A SPECIFIC CRITERIA OR MAPS? FOR THAT OR YEAH HOW IS THAT TO BE HANDLED MAYBE THAT'S AT PART TWO. MR. VAN DINE? THAT IS CORRECT. YEAH, SO NEXT WEEK YEAH OKAY AWESOME I'LL STAY TUNED REGARDING FRAME LIT WE'RE OVER PROMISING HERE AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE SEE AS COMING AND JUST NOT YEAH OVER PROMISING AND NOT BEING ABLE TO DELIVER I THINK A LOT OF IT LIKE LIKE HIGH INTENSITY NEAR OLD AIRPORT ROAD MAKES SENSE.
NON-MARKET SHELTER FACILITIES, AWESOME.
PURPOSE-BUILT RENTALS, UNIVERSALLY DESIGNED PARKS, MORE ACCESSIBLE TRAILS, TRANSIT CONNECTIONS, BUFFERS TO THE LAKE.
LIKE I THINK LIKE ELEMENTS OF THAT CAN ALL BE DONE, BUT THEN ADDING IN THE LANGUAGE AROUND LIKE QUOTE BEAUTY AND SOLITUDE AND PEACE OF NATURE, I THINK IT'S A BIT MUCH, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THAT'S UNDER THE FLIGHT PATH FOR RUNWAY 28.
AND IF WE'RE HAVING FIGHTER PLANES 500 FEET ABOVE THESE HOUSES, IT'S NOT EXACTLY.
SO I THINK JUST CHANGING OUR LANGUAGE THERE A LITTLE BIT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SELLING A UTOPIA THAT WE CAN'T DELIVER.
AROUND 150, AND THIS IS ON A COUPLE DIFFERENT, THE RECREATION HUB, OLD AIRPORT ROAD, DOWNTOWN.
I THINK ONE HOLE THAT I SEE IS NO SORT OF ARTICULATION ABOUT A FUTURE VISION FOR TRANSIT TO THE AIRPORT.
AS IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE, AND AS WELL AS EXPANSION.
I THINK IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN WE SHOULD CONTEMPLATE WHERE WE'RE SITING.
WE WANT HOTELS, MOTELS, SORT OF THAT TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE VERY CONSTANT BETWEEN THE AIRPORT AND THAT AREA.
AND WE MENTIONED TRANSIT TO FRED HENNEY, BUT NOT TO THE AIRPORT.
SO JUST LOOKING, THAT'S ONE THING, AND PERHAPS THAT'S IN PART TWO AS WELL, BUT WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE SOME CALL-OUTS OR A VISION.
THE NEXT ONE IS ON JUST FIRE-SMARTING PRINCIPLES AND SORT OF THE WILDFIRE ASPECT.
THERE ARE SOME AREAS WHERE IT CALLS OUT THE NEED FOR FIRE-SMART PRINCIPLES LIKE KAM LAKE AND ENGLE.
OTHER SORT OF LIKE PERIPHERAL AREAS TO THE CITY, LIKE GRACE LAKE, HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL, KAM LAKE SOUTH, MINERAL EXTRACTION, SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT, GIANT MINE.
IT DOESN'T MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT WILDFIRE AND FIRE SMART PRINCIPLES.
SO MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF MESHING THERE OR AT LEAST CALLING TO A DIFFERENT DOCUMENT OR SOMETHING.
I GUESS ANOTHER ONE QUESTION WAS JUST ON THE NORTH SLAVE CORRECTIONAL COMPLEX.
WHY THE SHORELINE TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH? OF THE ACTUAL COMPLEX LIKE EAST OF HALL AND SORT OF WHERE OUR PUBLIC SERVICE GARAGE IS SEEMS TO BE IN THAT DESIGNATION I'M JUST SORT OF CURIOUS WHY THAT WAS.
MR. VAN DINE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH KIND OF CHOKES ME UP WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MAPS THEY SO THAT WAS A GLITCH THAT LAST COMMENT SO WE'LL CLEAN THAT UP IN FUTURE DOCUMENTS AND WE MAY HAVE SOME OTHERS THAT WILL NEED TO TIDY UP BUT THANK YOU FOR FOR DRAWING ATTENTION TO IT WITH RESPECT TO EARLIER COMMENTS I THINK THAT THAT'S AN EXCITING PROPOSITION I THINK THAT WE'RE WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET BEHIND WITH THIS WITH THIS FUTURE LOOKING PLAN ON PUBLIC TRANSIT AND WHERE IT CAN BE GOING AND HOW IT CAN BE TIED INTO SORT OF NEWER FUTURES FOR YELLOWKNIFE PARTICULARLY THE AIRPORT AND AND BEYOND AS A AS A GOLFER, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO TAKE THE BUS TO THE GOLF COURSE WOULD BE KIND OF COOL, BUT CERTAINLY TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE TRANSPORTATION ASPECTS, WE'LL DEFINITELY BE FACTORING INTO THIS AND WE WILL HAVE OUR TRANSPORTATION PLAN AS WELL THAT WILL BE SPEAKING TO THINGS MORE NEAR TERM ON HOW WE'RE SUPPORTING THAT AND WALKING TOWARDS THE VISION THAT'S IN THIS PLANNING DOCUMENT.
ON FIRE SMARTING AND PROOFING AND TAKING THOSE IDEAS INTO ACCOUNT, WE WILL BE SPEAKING TO THAT NEXT WEEK IN TERMS OF THE PLANS.
AND WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GOING EYES WIDE OPEN WITH RESPECT TO FOR PROOFING AND PRACTICES WITH RESPECT TO OUR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND THE RISK FOR WILDFIRE.
SO QUESTIONS HERE AROUND HAVING THIS IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN AND NOT A SORT OF STANDALONE POLICY THAT GETS CALLED TO MOSTLY BECAUSE.
I THINK THERE'S SOME HUGE RISKS CREATED HERE BY HAVING THIS IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT APPEALS.
THERE'S FOUR PAGES OF CRITERIA ABOUT HOW WE WANT HOUSING TO DEVELOP.
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AND USING SOMEWHERE IN THAT, I COULD, I'M SURE, AT LEAST BRING AN APPEAL TO PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING.I COULD FIND SOMETHING TO LINK IN THERE.
AND THE OTHER HALF OF THAT IS, IF IT'S IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN, WE CAN'T ALTER THAT WITHOUT MACA HAVING A SAY, OR AT LEAST HAVING TO CHECK THE BOX.
SO WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF HAVING THAT HOUSING POLICY INSIDE THE COMMUNITY PLAN THAT SORT OF DICTATES EVERYTHING ELSE? MR. VAN DINE? THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR WHITE TO RESPOND TO THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT.
SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF PIECES.
HOPEFULLY YOU FOLLOW THROUGH AND YOU CAN ALSO FEEL FREE TO ADD.
IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS, HOUSING POLICIES ARE DONE AT THE PROVINCIAL LEVEL.
AND SO THERE'S A SET CRITERIA AND THEN THERE'S LEGISLATIVE REQUIREMENTS THAT THOSE HOUSING POLICIES BE BUILT INTO YOUR OFFICIAL PLAN OR COMMUNITY PLAN FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.
AND THEN THE TARGETS THAT ARE SET ARE THEN BASICALLY THOSE ARE THE KPIS YOU HAVE TO PROVE THAT YOU WERE MEETING THROUGH TIME.
SO AGAIN, BEST PLANNING PRACTICE IS WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING INCLUDED IN THIS.
NOW, MAYBE THERE WAS IN PREVIOUS GENERAL PLANS, BUT IN THE CURRENT COMMUNITY PLAN THAT WE HAVE, THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
THIS IS HOW COUNCIL CAN SET THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND THE DIRECTION FOR WHAT THEY WANT THE COMMUNITY TO LOOK LIKE GOING FORWARD AND GIVES US THE GOALS TO ATTAIN.
SO WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH ZONING, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES, LAND ADMINISTRATION, ALL THE OTHER TOOLS THAT COUNCIL HAS WILL FILL AND FEED INTO MEETING THESE GOALS AND EXPECTATIONS THAT ARE IN THE HOUSING POLICY.
IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT ALSO WILL SIGNAL TO THE MARKET AND TO THE, WHETHER THAT'S THE BUSINESSES, WHETHER THAT'S THE PEOPLE DEVELOPING THE HOMES, THAT THIS IS YOUR INTEREST AND THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT TO PROVIDE FOR YOUR RESIDENTS AND WHERE YOU WANT TO GO, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT SIGNAL TO HAVE OUT THERE.
WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT APPEALS, ONCE THE COMMUNITY PLAN IS THE POLICY IN PLACE FOR THE MUNICIPALITY, THE ZONING BY-LAW HAS TO IMPLEMENT IT AND THE ZONING BY-LAW OUTLINES WHICH DEVELOPMENT PERMITS AND WHICH VARIANCES CAN BE APPEALED TO THE DEVELOPMENT APPEAL BOARD.
SO THE COMMUNITY PLAN ITSELF CANNOT AND THE ZONING BY-LAW ITSELF CANNOT.
IT IS THE PERMITS THAT ARE ISSUED WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF THE ZONING BY-LAW ITSELF AND THE DEVELOPMENT APPEAL BOARD IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL THIRD-PARTY BODY, RIGHT? AND THERE ARE PUBLIC PROCESSES THAT LEAD TO ONE OF THOSE APPEALS.
SO THIS IS YOUR HIGH-LEVEL GOAL AND OBJECTIVE.
THE ZONING BYLAW THEN IMPLEMENTS IT WITH THE STANDARDS AND THE REGULATIONS, AND THEN INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENT GETS THE PERMIT, AND THAT IS THE PART OF THE PROCESS THAT MAY LEAD TO AN APPEAL.
SO I'M HOPING I GRASPED EACH PIECE THAT YOU WERE LISTING THERE.
AM I MISSING ANYTHING? NO, I JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE THING, THAT WE DID NOT HAVE ANY HOUSING POLICY BEFORE.
SO THERE IS NO WAY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT SOME HOUSING INITIATIVES.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THAT AND AS JOSH MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE THE PROCESS ON PLACE HOW TO IMPLEMENT THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY COMPETITIVE LAND IS THE TOP MOST IN THE HIERARCHY.
SO IT IS EASIER FOR US TO IMPLEMENT IT AND TO MONITOR IT THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
THIS IS THE START I THINK AND I THINK AS WE MOVE FORWARD WE CAN THINK ABOUT WHETHER WE CAN HAVE A SEPARATE, MANY OTHER MINNESOTA HAS, HOUSING STRATEGY WHICH IS A SEPARATE DOCUMENT AND IT ALSO FIT INTO THE COMMITTEE PLAN AND PROVIDE THE POLICIES SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT BROAD HIERARCHY OF STRATEGIES BUT I THINK THIS IS A START AND AS I MENTIONED THE MONITORING WOULD BE MUCH EASIER BECAUSE WE HAVE THE TOOL ON PLACE TO IMPLEMENT THAT.
COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YEAH, I THINK I'LL NEED EITHER TO DO MORE READING OR HAVE SOMEONE EXPLAIN THE IMPLICATIONS OF WHAT IS IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN IN TERMS OF WHAT CAN BE APPEALED.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS LACKING AND THAT'S ON ME.
YEAH, SO JUST UNDERSTANDING THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, I THINK, WOULD BE IMPORTANT JUST BECAUSE LIKE I'VE SEEN INSTANCES IN THE PAST, LIKE WHERE A DAYCARE WAS REJECTED BECAUSE IT NEGATIVELY IMPACTED OTHER RESIDENTS.
LIKE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SO MUCH IN HERE THAT YOU COULD SAY LIKE, WELL, THIS WAS MY EXPECTATION OF DEVELOPMENT IN MY AREA, AND THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
IT ISN'T BEING MET FOR X, Y, Z.
SO JUST, YEAH, I'LL NEED TO UNDERSTAND SORT OF THE DOWNSTREAM IMPACTS OF INCLUDING FOUR PAGES OF CRITERIA ABOUT HOUSING IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
YEAH, AND THEN JUST A CLOSING COMMENT.
AND I THINK, LIKE, GENERALLY, YEAH, LAUDABLE GOALS,
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AND I THINK THERE'S LOTS OF GOOD STUFF.AND, YEAH, FORWARD THINKING, ADJUSTING ON THE FLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
I THINK ON THE WHOLE, FOR ME, I THINK IT GOES A LITTLE BIT TOO PRESCRIPTIVE, AND I'M JUST WARY OF CREATING SOME BOXES THAT WE MIGHT GET OURSELVES TRAPPED IN, LIKE THE WORKPLACE ACCOMMODATION WITH THE LAST COMMUNITY PLAN.
YEAH, SO I THINK FOR ME, JUST WARY OF IT BEING A LITTLE BIT TOO PRESCRIPTIVE IN SPOTS.
I'LL WORK EITHER CHATTING WITH SOMEONE OR READING MYSELF TO TRY AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS OF IT.
THANK YOU, AND GLAD TO GO LAST BECAUSE MOST QUESTIONS WERE ASKED.
SO I'LL GIVE MOST OF THE COMMENTS FOR NOW.
I'VE GOT A TON OF WEEDY BITS, BUT I'LL SAVE THOSE FOR AN EMAIL AND THE BACK-AND-FORTH QUESTIONS.
COUNCILMAN MCLENNAN WAS THE BIG KIND OF NAIL IN THE HEAD THERE.
THIS BIG HOUSING POLICY IN THIS DOCUMENT.
I'VE SEEN HOW THIS WORKS IN REAL LIFE.
AND THIS IS GOING TO BE JUST A CAN OF WORMS WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT DOESN'T WANT SOMETHING BUILT BESIDE THEM.
THEY'LL FIND A WAY OF GETTING THIS.
IT'S JUST TOO, IT'S VERY HIGH LEVEL.
AND I GET THIS WRITTEN THAT WAY.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A VERY GUIDING DOCUMENT, BUT IT'S NOT TREATED THAT WAY WHEN WE DO REGULATION.
WE'RE A REGULATOR AND IT'S WORDS AND PEOPLE GO, THIS DIDN'T DO THIS, THIS DIDN'T DO THAT.
WHEN WE PUT THINGS IN, THERE'S A POLICY DOCUMENT, BUT THAT'S HOW IT ACTUALLY GETS USED.
SO I'M FINE HAVING A HOUSING POLICY.
I'M JUST, AGAIN, I NEED A BUNCH MORE QUESTIONS AND THINGS ANSWERED FOR ME TO WANT TO END THIS DOCUMENT.
I THINK THAT MAY BE A SEPARATE CONVERSATION.
SO I JUST WANTED SOME QUESTIONS AROUND THE AFFORDABILITY, THE DAYCARES, ALL THOSE THINGS.
SO YOU MENTIONED YOU TALKED TO ECE ABOUT DAYCARES.
DID YOU TALK TO THE NONPROFIT PROVIDERS ABOUT KIND OF DEMAND, HOW MUCH SPACE THEY NEED? THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
IS THAT PART OF YOUR CONVERSATION? MR. VAN DINE.
I'LL DIRECT IT TO DIRECTOR WHITE.
SO THE GROUP THAT I AM WORKING WITH, IT'S NOT JUST ONE PERSON, IT'S A NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
THEY'RE THE DIRECT CONNECT, AND SO IT'S THE NONPROFITS, IT'S THE PERSON WHO IS RUNNING A DAYCARE OUT OF THEIR HOME, SO IT'S NOT JUST INSTITUTIONALIZED DAYCARES.
IT'S ALL OF THE SPECTRUM, I GUESS WE CAN CALL IT, OF DAYCARES.
SO THEY FEED INTO THAT, AND THAT IS WHO I AM HAVING THE CONVERSATION WITH, OF WHAT IS NEEDED WHERE, AND NOT JUST ABOUT WHERE, BUT FOR WHOM, RIGHT? SO THE DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS, THE DIFFERENT NEEDS THAT COME ALONG WITH THE DIFFERENT, I GUESS WE'LL CALL THEM ALL PRESCHOOL.
CHILDREN THAT ARE REQUIRING CARE OUT THERE AND THEN THERE'S ALSO ADDITIONAL NEEDS FACILITIES AND CARE THAT IS ALSO REQUIRED SO WHILE WE ALL THINK OF DAYCARE AS BEING THE KIDS WHO ARE NOT IN SCHOOL THERE ARE OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY WHO ALSO NEED CARE AND SO HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS WELL SO IT'S MORE OF A SPECTRUM AND GETTING THE NEED AND UNDERSTANDING NOT JUST WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE BUT WHAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE BY THE GOVERNMENT OF THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES.
SO WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.
I'LL HAVE A BUNCH MORE QUESTIONS AROUND THE FEASIBILITY OF THAT.
I THINK IN REALITY THIS IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO A RECENT DAYCARE I JUST PRICED OUT FOR 4,800 SQUARE FEET WAS $2.3 MILLION.
SO I DON'T THINK, IF IT'S TALKING INSTITUTIONAL DAYCARES, I AM UNCLEAR.
I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON DAYCARES AND HOW IT'S GOING OF WORK BUT IF YOU WANT SOMEONE TO BUILD 100 UNITS AND BUILD AN INSTITUTIONAL DAYCARE, THAT'S JUST NOT GOING TO GET BUILT.
SO I'M WARY ABOUT THE ACTUAL COSTS.
AND THEN TALKING ABOUT OUR AFFORDABILITY METRICS YOU HAVE IN DIFFERENT AREAS, CAN YOU POINT TO ME EXAMPLES OF OTHER JURISDICTIONS OUR SIZE THAT DO THIS, THAT MANDATE AFFORDABLE METRICS IN THEIR BUILDING REQUIREMENTS? MR. VAN DINE? I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR WHITE TO RESPOND.
AND OUR BUILDING REQUIREMENTS, MAY I ASK? SO WE'RE A CITY OF 20,000 PEOPLE, AND WE'RE DOING 10% AFFORDABLE METRICS FOR 20 MORE UNITS, OR 15% DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE.
JUST YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR WRITE-UP, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT OUR JURISDICTION.
SO WHAT OTHER PLACES ARE SIZE DO THOSE KIND OF METRICS? DIRECTOR WHITE? THANK YOU.
SO THERE'S, AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S A NUMBER OF PLACES IN THE PROVINCES THAT HAVE TO DO THIS AND THEY HAVE TO REPORT OUT ON IT.
I KNOW MOHAMMED HAS A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES BUT ALSO THERE ARE REPORTING METRICS THAT THROUGH SOME CHANGES BECAUSE OF THE HALF PROGRAM WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO SEE AND SO ACTUALLY SO IS EVERYBODY HERE IT'S ALL POSTED ON THE CMHC HALF SITE AND IT DOES IT BY CITY AND IT'S NOT JUST WHAT CHANGES THEY'VE MADE THROUGH WHETHER THE ZONING
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BY OUR COMMUNITY PLAN.BUT WHAT THOSE METRICS ARE ACTUALLY RESULTING IN.
BUT I WILL PASS IT OVER TO MOHAMMAD, AND WHAT WE'LL DO IS WHEN WE INCLUDE THE RESPONSE IN OUR CHART, WE'RE GOING TO POINT YOU IN THOSE DIRECTIONS AND INCLUDE THOSE LINKS.
SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF WAYS TO ADDRESS THAT.
MANY OF THE MUNICIPALITIES ARE ASKING FOR A PERCENTAGE.
SOME OF THE MUNICIPALITIES ARE USING DIFFERENT APPROACHES.
SOME OF THE MUNICIPALITIES HAVE A COMBINATION OF INCENTIVES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ALSO SOME REQUIREMENTS.
RECENTLY IN ONTARIO, WHICH IS A PROVINCIALLY REQUIRED, AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHICH IS 5% IMPOSED, PROVINCE WIDE, BUT IN OUR CASE WE DON'T HAVE THIS KIND OF DOCUMENTS.
I'LL GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLE, BOTH LARGE MUNICIPALITIES AND SMALL MUNICIPALITIES.
LIKE IN MONTREAL WE HAVE 10 TO 20 PERCENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING ECONOMY BASED ON DIFFERENT AREAS IN BURNABY 20 PERCENT REQUIREMENT ON PUBLIC LANDS CITY OF RICHMOND HAS 50 PERCENT OVER 60 UNITS VANCOUVER HAS 20 PERCENT IN CERTAIN ZONES NORFOLK COUNTY HAS 50 PERCENT ALL OVER WITHIN THE COUNTY IN NORTHERN CONTEXT EQUAL IT HAS SEVEN PERCENT MINIMUM ON LESABLE LAWS MOST OF THE LOTS ARE VISIBLE IN THAT CITY.
SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE EXAMPLES, BUT YOU SEE THAT THE RANGE VARIES, BUT IT'S MOSTLY BETWEEN 5% TO 20%. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT LIST BECAUSE IN MY RESEARCH, I FOUND A LOT OF TORONTO'S, MISSISSAUGA'S, VANCOUVER'S, BURNABY'S, I FOUND NOBODY OUR SIZE THAT MANDATES THAT LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY IN THEIR CONSTRUCTION.
A LOT OF INCENTIVES, A LOT OF THINGS WE'RE DOING ALREADY, BUT I COULDN'T, SO I'D LOVE TO SEE EXAMPLES BECAUSE I COULDN'T FIND ANY.
LIKE WE SAID BEFORE, WE ARE NOT TORONTO, WE ARE NOT VANCOUVER.
I FRANKLY DON'T CARE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS HERE.
AND FROM CONTEXT HERE, THE REASON THIS REALLY, I THINK, IS THIS MIGHT BE A HOUSING KILLER.
SO IT'S NOT A WANT FOR AFFORDABILITY.
I WOULD HAPPILY GIVE FREE LAND TO NON-PROFITS.
I WOULD HAPPILY GIVE LAND TO CO-OPS.
WE GIVE IT TO HOUSING CORPORATIONS.
I THINK THERE'S OTHER WAYS WE CAN REALLY INCENTIVIZE THAT NON-MARKET OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I THINK IS OUT OF CONTEXT FOR OUR CITY.
IT'S 70% MORE TO BUILD HERE THAN EDMONTON.
IT'S 50% MORE TO SPEND THAN GRAND PRAIRIE TO BUILD HERE.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRULY THINKING ABOUT THE COST.
WE TALKED ABOUT 20 UNITS OR 100 UNITS CAN CARRY THAT BURDEN.
SO WE ARE GOING TO BE HARD-PRESSED TO SEE HOUSING BUILT IN THIS CITY, EVEN IF WE HAVE LAND AVAILABLE.
BUILDING IS REALLY EXPENSIVE AND IMPOSSIBLE RIGHT NOW.
SO I'M WARY TO PUT ANY MORE LAYERS.
AND THIS IS, I GUESS, OVERALL POLICY-WISE.
WITH UNITS PER HECTARE, I'M JUST SEEING LAYERS AND LAYERS OF LITTLE INCREMENTAL THINGS, BUT THEY ADD UP TO A BIG BARRIER TO DO STUFF.
SO I'LL HAVE MORE, LIKE, WEEDY QUESTIONS FOR YOU ON THE HOUSING SIDE FOR NEXT MEETING, BUT I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS.
LIKE, ONE EXAMPLE IS WE TALK ABOUT DOING AFFORDABILITY OVER 20 YEARS.
THERE'S NOT A SINGLE ENTITY, INCLUDING CMHC, THAT REQUIRES 20-YEAR LOCK IN FOR AFFORDABILITY.
SO WHY ARE WE GOING TO, I UNDERSTAND WHY WE WANT LONG-TERM AFFORDABILITY, BUT WE'RE NOT MATCHING THE FISCAL REALITY OF WHAT THE MARKET'S DOING.
PEOPLE JUST MAY NOT BUILD ANYTHING.
AND THAT'S MY WORRY IS THEY JUST DON'T BUILD IT.
SO, AND THEN I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT WITH AFFORDABILITY, WHO'S ACTUALLY PAYING THAT.
SO TO BE CLEAR, IT'S NOT THE DEVELOPER.
THE TENANTS IN THAT BUILDING PAY FOR THOSE UNITS.
SO DEVELOPER WILL JUST PASS THAT COST ON TO THE OTHER RENTERS.
WHICH WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS SUPER VULNERABLE IN OUR CITY, THEY WILL PAY IT.
THE INCENTIVES WE OFFER ARE DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES, THEY'RE TO GET IT BUILT, BUT THE RENTAL SIDE, THOSE UNITS IN THAT BUILDING WILL JUST PAY MORE MONEY.
SO I DON'T THINK IT'S, I DON'T PERSONALLY THINK THE RENTERS SHOULD BE SUBSIDIZING OTHER RENTERS.
WE SHOULD BE DOING OTHER THINGS AS A CITY TO MAKE THAT WORK.
AGAIN, NONPROFITS WITH FREE LAND, HALF THE KIDS WANT TO SEE A NEW LOFT IF THEY DON'T WANT ONE.
BUT YEAH, I DON'T WANT TO BURDEN THE PEOPLE.
THAT WE SAY ARE MOST VULNERABLE WITH SUBSIDIZING OTHER UNITS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS SO MORE SORRY FOR THE COMMENTS THERE FOR THE DOWNTOWN PORTION YOU TALK A LOT ABOUT MANDATORY A LOT OF PLACES MANDATORY MIXED USE HAVE WE LOOKED AT OR DO WE UNDERSTAND IS THERE EVEN A MARKET FOR A LOT OF THAT KIND OF MAIN FLOOR COMMERCIAL SPACE SEEING LOTS OF VACANCY IN TOWN CURRENTLY NOT SEEING A LOT OF DEMAND FOR COMMERCIAL SPACE IN GENERAL IS MANDATING AN ENTIRE FLOOR, WHICH I WANT PERSONALLY, I'D LOVE TO SEE DOWNTOWN WITH COMMERCIAL MAIN FLOORS.
HAVE WE LOOKED AT KIND OF THAT
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FEASIBILITY FINANCIALLY? MR. VAN DINE? SO IN TERMS OF DESIGN PRACTICE TO REVITALIZE AND KEEP THE DOWNTOWN VIBRANT, THAT'S DEFINITELY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO INCENT HERE.AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR, NOT ONLY FROM MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL, BUT FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
THE CURRENT CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE, I PREFER TO GO BACK.
25 YEARS OR MORE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE DECISIONS TAKEN WITH RESPECT TO THE NUMBER OF OFFICE TOWERS THAT WE HAVE THAT HAVE NO GROUND FLOOR ACCESS FOR COMMERCIAL AND RESTAURANT OR OTHER TYPES OF ACTIVITIES OR THINGS THAT THEY HADN'T PROBABLY CONTEMPLATED BACK THEN IN TERMS OF WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE ON BOARD SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD BOTH THROUGH COUNCIL AND THROUGH DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY.
THE FEASIBILITY AND WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE IN TERMS OF THIS POLICY BEING ADOPTED GOING FORWARD.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR WHITE ON SOME OF THE THOUGHTS AROUND THAT.
AND WHAT I'LL DO IS ADDRESS IT MORE BROADLY IS THE POLICIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN ARE BOTH AT THE TIME OF NEW DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? SO THE POLICIES DON'T GO BACKWARDS IN TIME.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO SET A STATE FOR THE FUTURE THAT WE WANT TO SEE WHETHER THAT'S IN THE DOWNTOWN OR WHETHER THAT'S IN THE OLD AIRPORT ROAD AREA WHERE THESE POLICIES, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THOSE MIXED USE POLICIES.
SO THE ANSWER IS YES, IT'S KIND OF THAT IDEAL STATE.
ARE WE GETTING THERE? YES, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT OUR DOWNTOWN, THERE IS A LOT OF CHANGE.
IT'S BEEN SLOW, BUT IT IS HAPPENING AND IT IS IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION.
WE ARE LOOKING TO WORK NOT JUST WITH THE CHAMBER BUT WITH OTHERS WHO ARE LOOKING TO INVEST AND WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE THERE IN OUR CITY AND SPECIFICALLY IN OUR DOWNTOWN AND WHAT POLICIES CAN WE PUT IN PLACE THAT ARE GOING TO SUPPORT THOSE FUTURE USES THAT WE KNOW ARE GOING TO BE COMING.
SO THE ANSWER IS YES AND IT TAKES TIME AND DON'T LOOK AT IT TODAY AND WHAT THE MARKET IS TODAY.
LOOK AT IT AT WHAT WE CAN BE IN FIVE OR IN TEN YEARS WHEN WE HAVE A NUMBER OF USES AND AS OUR COMMUNITY CHANGES WITH WHAT WE KNOW IS COMING.
THERE'S VARIOUS AREAS, OLD TOWN, FOR EXAMPLE, SAYS SHALL MAINTAIN THE ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER.
YOU COULD DRIVE A TRUCK THROUGH THAT.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT THAT GENERALLY MEANS IS DON'T BUILD ANYTHING BESIDE ME.
AND THERE'S REFERENCE TO CHARACTER THROUGHOUT DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE DOCUMENT.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE IF THERE'S OTHER MORE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE WE COULD USE THAT DESCRIBES WHAT THAT MEANS.
IS THAT BUILD FORM? IS THAT, YOU KNOW, AND IT DOES MENTION A COUPLE SPOTS AT THE SAME TIME.
BUT I REALLY CAUTION THE WORD CHARACTER BECAUSE, AGAIN, WHEN IT COMES BACK TO PEOPLE LOOKING TO APPEAL OR ARGUE A DEVELOPMENT IN THEIR COMMUNITY, THEIR CHARACTER MAY NOT BE WHAT WE DEFINE AS A CHARACTER.
SO THERE'S HOUSING UNITS WITHIN THAT MINERAL EXTRACTION AREA, WHICH YOU TALKED ABOUT.
THERE'S A COUPLE LIKE WAY DOWN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER, LIKE THREE HOUSES.
AND THERE'S A MASSIVE CHUNK OF LAND THE CITY OWNS OR LEASES.
I'M UNCLEAR ABOUT SINCE THE LAST ANSWER.
AND THAT'S NOT PART OF AN ACT.
SO I GUESS SOME FEEDBACK ON WHY THAT WAS INCLUDED IN MINERAL EXPLORATION.
REAL HOUSING IS NOW SO WHY DO WE KIND OF REMOVE ALL THAT AS AN OPTION FOR US WHEN WE SAY WE'RE LAYING CONSTRAINT AND I MR. VAN DINE THANK YOU THANK YOU MR. CHAIR SO THAT PARTICULAR AREA IS CURRENTLY UNSERVICED THAT HAS BEEN THAT I THINK YOU'RE POINTING TO AND SO WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE OR AT LEAST CONTEMPLATE ADDITIONAL INTENSIFICATION IN RESIDENTIAL AREA IS IN THE TAYLOR ROAD AREA SPECIFICALLY.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO LOAD UP, SO TO SPEAK, AND THAT'S NOT A TECHNICAL PLANNING TERM.
THE CONSIDERATIONS IN THAT, THOUGH, AS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT IN DIRECTOR WHITE'S RESPONSES, ARE TRYING TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT A BUFFER IN DESIGN AND AESTHETICS TO ALLOW FOR THAT.
PARTICULAR AREA TO BE MAXIMIZED.
IN TERMS OF THE PINPOINTING ON THE LOT, PERHAPS WE CAN TALK OFFLINE AS TO EXACTLY THE ACTUAL SITE AREA THAT YOU'RE DRAWING ATTENTION TO.
BUT THE INTENTION VERY MUCH IS TO RESPONSIBLY ACCOMMODATE AND ALLOW FOR MINERAL EXTRACTION, ACCOMMODATE EXISTING HOUSING THAT'S THERE, AND THEN FOR AREAS WHERE WE'VE PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED HOUSING INTENSIFICATION.
PRINCIPALLY AROUND TAYLOR ROAD, TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN WITH AN OPERATING EXTRACTIVE
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ENTERPRISE.JUST A NOTE, TOO, I'M JUST LATE ON THIS, SO OUR APOLOGIES.
WE'VE WELL BLOWN PAST THE 90-MINUTE MARK, BUT I'M GETTING THROUGH THIS.
SPECIAL MANAGEMENT AREA, A LITTLE UNCLEAR TO ME WHAT THAT I KNOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEN IT LISTS ALL THE THINGS WE CAN DO IN THERE.
JUST MAYBE, IF YOU HAVE THEM RIGHT NOW, BUT LATER, EXAMPLES, WHAT KIND OF THINGS WOULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN IN REAL LIFE? WHAT COULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN THERE? I ASK BECAUSE THERE'S A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES IN THAT AREA, SOME OUT PAST SAND PITS, SOME ON BACK BAY, SOME OUT BY WAIKIKI RIVER, WHICH ARE ESSENTIALLY, THEY HAVE THE DESIGNATION, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY STUCK, SO THEY CAN'T DO MUCH.
THE USES I'M SEEING IN THE SPECIAL MANAGEMENT AREA DON'T ACTUALLY MATCH WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING ON MOST OF THOSE SITES.
SO MAYBE THAT'S A TAKEAWAY, NOT A QUESTION.
CAN WE GET SOME EXAMPLES? LET ME EXPLAIN KIND OF WHY THOSE USES AREN'T MATCHING.
WE HAVE A TRUCKING COMPANY OUT THERE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHO IN NO WAY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO USE IN THE SPECIAL ZONE.
SO I DON'T WANT TO IMPACT CURRENT USES OR FUTURE KIND OF USE OF THOSE DEVELOPED SITES ALREADY.
THOSE FOLKS WERE VERY ENGAGED IN THE LAST ZONING BYLAW, AND NOTHING CAME OF THAT.
SO I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT MAYBE REFLECTED A BIT MORE IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN SO WE CAN ENGAGE THAT IN THE ZONING MODEL WHEN WE GET THERE.
AGAIN, VERY LARGE PROPERTIES WE COULD REDEVELOP IN THE FUTURE, BUT THEY'RE JUST KIND OF STUCK RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN ON THE HOUSING POLICY, CIRCLE BACK TO THAT, AND THEN I'M DONE.
THERE'S A LOT OF, AND THIS GOES BACK TO THE LAYERS, THERE'S A LOT OF THE WORD SHALL, WHICH YOU HAVE DEFINED AS YOU MUST DO THESE THINGS.
DEVELOPERS SHALL PROVIDE A FULL RANGE OF HOUSING OPTIONS.
THEY SHALL DO AFFORDABLE UNITS, FAMILY-SIZED UNITS.
THEY SHALL DO DAYCARES OVER 100 UNITS.
ALL I'M HEARING IS A LOT OF YOU NEED TO DOS.
IT'S UNCLEAR TO ME WHAT THE COST AT ALL WOULD BE.
SO I WOULD HAVE A BUNCH MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS ON THE HOUSING POLICY, BUT, AGAIN, EVERY TIME THERE'S A WORD SHALL, THAT'S NOT A MAYBE, THAT'S A REQUIREMENT.
AND I'M NOT SURE THIS IS REALISTIC TO HAVE AS MUCH AS WE HAVE IN THERE CURRENTLY.
AND FOR MYSELF, I'LL KEEP IT TO, I MEAN, ALL THE QUESTIONS, I WILL KEEP IT VERY MUCH TO ONE QUESTION.
JUST THE ONLY ONE THAT HASN'T BEEN ASKED ABOUT YET IS SOMETHING THAT WAS CLEARLY EVIDENT IN PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2 CONSULTATIONS REFERENCED IN THOSE DOCUMENTS IS RESIDENTS' DESIRE TO SEE TIN CAN HILL PRESERVED AS IS.
COMMUNITY PLAN STILL TALKS ABOUT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
I'M JUST NOW IT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT FULL DEVELOPMENT, TALKS ABOUT MAINTAINING ASPECTS. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A BIT OF CLARITY FROM ADMIN ON THE RATIONALE FOR THE PROPOSED WORDING IN THE DRAFT COMMUNITY PLAN.
MR. VAN DINE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND YES, WE DID HEAR QUITE A BIT ABOUT THAT, AND WE'VE HEARD IT IN VARIOUS FORA. SO, THE PLAN IS FORWARD-LOOKING. IT DOES CURRENTLY, UNDER THE CURRENT PLAN, THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR OTHER USES IN THAT AREA, BUT THERE IS NO ACTIVE CONSIDERATION OF ANY APPLICATIONS AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME FOR ANY KIND OF PROPOSAL THAT WOULD SUGGEST ANYTHING DIFFERENT IN HIGHLIGHTING AT THIS STAGE AND, AND POINTING IT TO WE'RE JUST SIMPLY TRYING TO ACCOUNT FOR CURRENT LAND REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS WHAT THE WHAT THE CITY MIGHT NEED IN FUTURE PENDING FUTURE DECISIONS BUT DIRECTOR WHITE DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD WITH RESPECT TO THAT PARTICULAR REFERENCE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH IT IS REFLECTIVE OF WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN WELL YES, WE'VE HEARD NUMEROUS COMMENTS, NOT JUST ABOUT THIS LOCATION, BUT A NUMBER OF LOCATIONS AROUND THE COMMUNITY. IT'S BALANCING IF WE DON'T MOVE ON ONE SIDE, WHERE CAN WE MOVE ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE KEEPING ALL OF OUR OPTIONS AVAILABLE.
AND AS WE GO THROUGH NOT JUST THIS POLICY, BUT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT POLICIES, IF WE HAVE GONE TOO FAR, THEN THAT'S WHERE COUNCIL NEEDS, WHEN YOU GET THAT LIST, YOU CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND GIVE US THE DIRECTION BECAUSE, WELL, SAY YOU KNOW THE MAYOR THINKS ONE THING THE REMAINDER OF COUNCIL MAY LIKE NO WE NEED TO DO THIS SO THAT'S WHERE WE WILL TAKE OUR DIRECTION FROM WE'RE GIVING YOU OPTIONS AND OUR BEST RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME HAPPY TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION SO YOU CAN MAKE THOSE INFORMED THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WITH THAT I'M PUTTING A PIN IN THE CONVERSATION FOR THE DAY THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR YOUR QUESTIONS REMEMBER YOU CAN EMAIL IN YOUR QUESTIONS THIS IS THE FIRST OF SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
WITH THAT, CAN I GET A MOTION TO GO IN CAMERA? DEPUTY MAYOR WARBURTON, SECONDED BY
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COUNCIL MCGURK, WE WILL HEAD TO THE BOARDROOM. AND I WILL CALL OUR MEETING BACK[IN CAMERA ]
TO ORDER. AND WE HAVE BUSINESS ARISING FROM THE IN-CAMERA SESSION. THERE ARE A SERIES OF APPOINTMENTS TO THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD ON HOMELESSNESS. SO, WE HAVE ONE FOR A REPRESENTATIVE FROM AN[8. Business arising from In Camera Session. ]
ORGANIZATION SERVING WOMEN, FAMILIES FLEEING VIOLENCE. WE HAVE NOMAZULU KUMALO. SECOND, WE HAVE FOR A REPRESENTATIVE FROM INDIGENOUS PEOPLES OR ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING FRIENDSHIP CENTERS OR INDIGENOUS HOUSING ORGANIZATIONS. WE HAVE BYRNE RICHARDS. THIRD, WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM A YOUTH-SERVING ORGANIZATION, INCLUDING NON-GOVERNMENT CHILD WELFARE AGENCIES. WE HAVE GLORIA FRANCIS. FOURTH, WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM AN ORGANIZATION SERVING PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES. WE HAVE DENISE MCKEE. AND FINALLY, WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM A VETERANS AFFAIRS CANADA OR VETERANS SERVING ORGANIZATIONS, AND WE HAVE BRENDA KAWANA. SO, WITH THAT, WE COME TO THE END OF OUR MEETING. CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? COUNCILOR MCGURK, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MCLENNAN. AND THAT IS THE END OF OUR MEETING. WE WILL SEE YOU ON MONDAY, ACTUALLY, THIS TIME.AND HAVE A GOOD WEEK.
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