May 20, 2025 Governance & Priorities Committee

[1. Opening Statement]

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AND I WILL CALL OUR GOVERNANCE AND PRIORITIES COMMITTEE MEETING FOR TUESDAY, MAY 20TH, 2025 TO ORDER.

THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE ACKNOWLEDGES THAT WE ARE LOCATED IN CHIEF DRYGEESE TERRITORY.

FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL, IT HAS BEEN THE TRADITIONAL LAND OF THE YELLOWKNIVES DENE FIRST NATION. WE RESPECT THE HISTORIES, LANGUAGES AND CULTURES OF ALL OTHER INDIGENOUS PEOPLES, INCLUDING THE NORTH SLAVE MÉTIS AND ALL FIRST NATIONS, METIS AND INUIT WHOSE PRESENCE CONTINUES TO ENRICH OUR VIBRANT COMMUNITY.

NEXT, WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. MR. VAN DINE.

[2. Approval of the agenda.]

DOES ANY MEMBER HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST TODAY? WELL, PERFECT. NEXT, WE HAVE A MEMORANDUM REGARDING WHETHER TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE TO ADOPT THE 2024 AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

[4. A memorandum regarding whether to accept the recommendations of the Audit Committee to adopt the 2024 Audited Financial Statements.]

SO THIS IS AN ANNUAL STEP OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND I'LL BE TURNING IT OVER QUICKLY TO MR. PANDYA, WHO WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH THE FINDINGS OF THE AUDIT.

MR. PANDYA.

THANK YOU, MR. VAN DINE. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

OH, IT DOES FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I LAST ADDRESSED YOU FROM HERE.

BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL LOOKING UNUSUALLY MORE BEAUTIFUL TODAY, EVEN MR. COUNCILLOR PAYNE. BUT I KNOW YOU MISSED MY PRESENTATIONS, BUT I ASSURE YOU IT WAS WORTH THE WAIT. BECAUSE THIS PRESENTATION IS GOING TO BE PACKED WITH ACTIONS, EMOTIONS AND NUMBERS.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE FINANCE TEAM FOR THEIR INCREDIBLE WORK WITH THE AUDITORS IN FINALIZING THE 2024 FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

HOWEVER, MAKING SURE WE HAVE A SMOOTH AND COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REVIEW AT THE END OF EVERY YEAR IS A TEAM EFFORT.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A COMPLIANT ORGANIZATION WITHOUT EACH AND EVERY MEMBER OF STAFF, ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS, TO FOLLOW THE ESTABLISHED PROCEDURES AND POLICIES.

SO THANK YOU EVERYONE AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

A BIG THANK YOU AS WELL TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE MEMBERS, BOTH PREVIOUS AND CURRENT.

HERE, I JUST WANT TO PAUSE AND POINT OUT THAT I WAS PERSONALLY DISTRAUGHT WHEN COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN DITCHED ME AND THE AUDIT COMMITTEE FOR THE GRANT REVIEW COMMITTEE.

ALL THIS AFTER TELLING ME FOR THE LAST 17 MONTHS THAT ME AND HIM WERE THE STARSKY AND HUTCH OF YELLOWKNIFE.

BUT COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN, YOU DID AN AMAZING JOB ON THE COMMITTEE, AND IT WAS A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU.

THANK YOU. IN RELATION TO THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THEMSELVES, I ONCE READ THAT THEY ARE DEFINED AS A SECRET LANGUAGE OF MONEY WRITTEN BY ACCOUNTANTS AND TRANSLATED BY INVESTORS AND UNDERSTOOD BY, WELL, NOBODY.

SO, BUT HERE'S MY TIP ON HOW TO UNDERSTAND AND MASTER THESE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

THERE ARE ONLY FIVE MAIN COMPONENTS TO THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF A MUNICIPALITY, AND THE REST OF THE PAGES ARE JUST SUPPORTING EXPLANATIONS AND SCHEDULES. HERE YOU GO. READING THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS JUST MADE EASY FOR YOU.

BEFORE I MOVE ON, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE.

LIKE I ALWAYS DO FOR EVERYTHING I WILL BE SAYING DURING THIS PRESENTATION.

UNFORTUNATELY, PART OF MY JOB IS TO BE ABLE TO STAND HERE IN FRONT OF YOU AND BE ABLE TO TELL YOU IF EVERYTHING IS GOOD, EVERYTHING IS BAD, OR THINGS ARE GOING TO GET UGLY BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, NUMBERS DO NOT LIE.

BUT I DO ASSURE YOU, THINGS WILL NEVER REACH THE POINT OF NO RETURN, BECAUSE THAT WOULD MEAN WE HAVE COLLECTIVELY FAILED IN DISCHARGING OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES THE WAY WE SHOULD HAVE. AND I CAN CONFIDENTLY SAY THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN.

LOOKING AT THE BRAINPOWER AND THE COMPETENCE POOL THAT IS CURRENTLY SITTING ON MY RIGHT AND IN THE FRONT.

MOVING ON. AS A REMINDER, ADMINISTRATION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PREPARATION AND PRESENTATION OF THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AT EVERY YEAR END. FURTHER, IN DISCHARGING ITS RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE INTEGRITY AND FAIRNESS OF THESE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

ADMINISTRATION DESIGNS AND MAINTAINS THE NECESSARY ACCOUNTING SYSTEMS AND RELATED INTERNAL CONTROLS TO PROVIDE REASONABLE ASSURANCE THAT TRANSACTIONS

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WHEN WE DO COMPLETE THESE TASKS DECENTLY, IT LEADS TO THE AUDITORS REACH THE CONCLUSION THAT THE CITY WANTS THEM TO REACH AN UNQUALIFIED OPINION. BUT WHAT DOES AN UNQUALIFIED OPINION MEANS? AN UNQUALIFIED OPINION IS ALSO KNOWN AS A CLEAN OPINION OR UNMODIFIED OPINION.

IN SIMPLE TERMS, IT MEANS THAT THE AUDITORS HAVE FOUND NO MATERIAL MISSTATEMENTS IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

THIS INDICATES THAT THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE FAIRLY PRESENTED IN A IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPLICABLE ACCOUNTING FRAMEWORK, IN OUR CASE, THE CANADIAN PUBLIC SECTOR ACCOUNTING STANDARDS.

IT'S THE MOST FAVORABLE OUTCOME FOR AN ENTITY BEING AUDITED.

BUT DOES HAVING AN UNQUALIFIED OPINION MEANS WE WERE PERFECT? NO. IT MEANS THAT FIRSTLY, THE CITY IS IN GOOD FINANCIAL STATE, AND IT WILL HAVE THE CAPACITY TO OPERATE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

AND SECONDLY, WE DO HAVE SOME ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN VARIOUS AREAS TO FURTHER STRENGTHEN OUR OPERATIONS.

THE AUDITORS WOULD HAVE BASED THEIR OBSERVATIONS ON SOME OF THE FOLLOWING RESULTS.

IN 2023, THE TOTAL OPERATING REVENUES WAS 77.4 MILLION AND THE OPERATING EXPENSES WERE 83.4 MILLION, THEREBY CREATING AN OPERATING DEFICIT OF 6 MILLION, WHICH WAS ABSORBED BY OUR EXISTING ACCUMULATED SURPLUS BALANCE.

THE PUBLIC SECTOR ACCOUNTING BOARD PUTS A GREATER EMPHASIS ON THE STATEMENT OF FINANCIAL POSITION, WHICH SHOWS THE LONG TERM FISCAL HEALTH OF A MUNICIPALITY AS OPPOSED TO THE STATEMENT OF OPERATIONS.

THE CITY'S FINANCIAL POSITION REMAINS HEALTHY AS OF 31ST DECEMBER 2024 THE ACCUMULATED SURPLUS, ALSO KNOWN AS MUNICIPAL EQUITY, INCREASED FROM 388.4 MILLION TO 403.9 MILLION INCHES 2024 THE ACCUMULATED SURPLUS. AS I HAVE MENTIONED IN PREVIOUS PRESENTATION , IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST SOURCE OF MISUNDERSTANDING WHEN IT COMES TO MUNICIPAL FINANCES. IN A NUTSHELL, THE ACCUMULATED BALANCE IN IS ALL ASSETS EXCEEDING ALL LIABILITIES OVER TIME.

RATHER THAN SUGGESTING THAT THE CITY HAS AN ENORMOUS BALANCE OF CASH TO SPEND TOWARDS DELIVERIES OF NEW SERVICE OR NEW CAPITAL PROJECTS. AT THE END OF 2024. THE CITY'S NET FINANCIAL ASSETS TOTALED 58.8 MILLION.

THIS WAS A DECREASE OF 5.4 MILLION FROM 2023 DUE TO A COMBINATION OF MOVEMENTS POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE IN THE CITY'S CASH BALANCES, GRANTS RECEIVABLES, ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLES AND DEFERRED REVENUE.

FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WERE NUMEROUS GRANT FUNDING RECEIVED IN 2023 THAT WERE NO LONGER AVAILABLE IN 2024.

AND FINALLY, THE CITY'S NON-FINANCIAL ASSETS, WHICH COMPRISES OF THE CITY'S TANGIBLE CAPITAL ASSETS, INVENTORIES AND ADVANCED PAYMENTS, INCREASED BY 20.8 MILLION OVER THE PRIOR YEAR, MAINLY DUE TO SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS MADE AT THE AQUATIC CENTER AND INVESTMENTS OF AROUND 1.8 MILLION IN CITY FACILITIES, ROADS AND SIDEWALKS.

NOW, HOW WELL OR BAD WE PERFORMED OVER THE LAST YEAR DIRECTLY IMPACTS OUR CASH AND CASH BALANCES.

THE CITY'S CASH POSITION IS REFLECTED IN THE STATEMENT OF CASH FLOWS, WHICH YOU CAN FIND ON PAGE 18 OF THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

THIS STATEMENT IDENTIFIES WHERE CASH CAME FROM, HOW CASH WAS USED, AND PROVIDE DETAILS ON CHANGES TO CASH AND CASH EQUIVALENTS SINCE THE LAST REPORTING PERIOD. ON DECEMBER 31ST, 2024, THE CITY HAD A TOTAL OF 107.8 MILLION IN CASH AND CASH EQUIVALENTS, WHICH WAS LOWER THAN THE 132 MILLION THAT THE CITY HELD AT THE SAME PERIOD LAST YEAR.

THIS DROP IS MAINLY BECAUSE OF A COMBINATION OF VARIOUS FACTORS, NOTABLY SUBSTANTIVE PAYMENTS TOWARDS COMPLETION OF THE AQUATIC CENTER, A GENERAL INCREASE IN EXPENSES, AND AN OVERALL DECREASE IN REVENUES AND GOVERNMENT GRANTS IN COMPARISON TO 2023.

AS A NOTE OUT OF THE 107.8 MILLION, ONLY 70.2 MILLION ARE UNRESTRICTED AND UNCOMMITTED, WHILE 9.3 MILLION IS MONEY INVESTED IN MONEY MARKET FUNDS WITH AN AVERAGE YIELD OF 4.30%.

THIS 4.3% IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN THE 4.2% AVERAGE YIELD IN 2023.

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FOR EXAMPLE, WE STILL HAVE OPERATIONAL COMMITMENTS LIKE SALARIES AND WAGES AND OTHER CURRENT LIABILITIES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE PROVISIONS FOR IN CASE THEY BECOME DUE TOMORROW. IN PRESENT TIMES OF INFLATIONARY PRESSURES, CLIMATE UNCERTAINTIES AND OTHER MARKET RELATED CHALLENGES, IT IS EXTREMELY CRITICAL TO HAVE A GOOD WORKING CAPITAL FOR A MORE DEPRESSING PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD INVITE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO JUST PICTURE.

THE CITY'S TEN YEAR CAPITAL PLAN FOR A MINUTE.

AS COMMITTEE WILL RECALL FROM OUR DELIBERATIONS AROUND BUDGET 2025, THE CITY PLANS TO INVEST AROUND 266.5 MILLION OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS TO SUSTAIN THE INFRASTRUCTURE IT DEPENDS ON TO DELIVER SERVICES AND PROGRAMS, WITH MULTIPLE MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE COMING DUE FOR RENEWAL SOON.

IN THIS VOLATILE MARKET ENVIRONMENT, I BELIEVE THE 266.5 MILLION IS A LOW ESTIMATE.

SO, LET'S ALL PRESS PAUSE, RECALIBRATE THE RISK AND PRIORITIZE AND FIGURE OUT THE BEST PATH FORWARD IN A MORE FOCUSED MANNER FOR A GREATER IMPACT BECAUSE WE ARE IN A COMPLEX SITUATION.

THIS COMPLEXITY BECOMES EVEN MORE EXCITING WHEN WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT OUR BORROWING AND RESERVE SITUATION.

LET ME START WITH THE RESERVES FIRST. THE LATTER REMAINED RELATIVELY STABLE, RANGING FROM 10.1 MILLION TO 12 MILLION, WITH A NET INCREASE OF 3% OVER THE LAST FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

BUT I BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE SETTING ASIDE MUCH MORE, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF ASSET MANAGEMENT COMING ONLINE IN A VERY NEAR FUTURE.

AS A REMINDER, ADMINISTRATION IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON AN INVESTMENT POLICY THAT WILL MAKE THE CITY RESERVE FUNDS WORK HARDER AND PROVIDING SOME MUCH NEEDED CASH INFLOWS FOR THE CITY. AS I HIGHLIGHTED TO THE COMMITTEE LAST NOVEMBER, WE DO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH OUR CURRENT DEBT SERVICE LEVELS.

I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO EXPLAIN WHAT IS HAPPENING.

ACCORDING TO SECTION 167 OF CITIES, TOWNS AND VILLAGES ACT, THE CITY'S BORROWING LIMIT IS TWO TIMES IS ITS ELIGIBLE REVENUES, AND ITS DEBT SERVICE LIMIT IS 25% OF THESE REVENUES.

THE DEBT LIMIT IS THE OVERALL BORROWING CAP, WHILE THE DEBT SERVICE LIMIT RELATES TO REPAYMENTS COMMITMENTS OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS, AND IT INCLUDES ALL CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS AND DEBT REPAYMENTS.

OUR CURRENT DEBT BALANCE IS 49.6 MILLION, WHILE OUR LEGAL LIMIT BASED ON 2024 ACTUAL FIGURES IS 152.5 MILLION. SO WE DO HAVE A ROOM OF AROUND 103 MILLION IN DEBT CAPACITY.

BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY WHEN IT COMES TO DEBT SERVICING.

AGAIN, BASED ON 2024 ACTUAL FIGURES, OUR DEBT SERVICE LIMIT IS 19 MILLION, BUT WE ARE CURRENTLY SITTING AT 40.5 MILLION, MORE THAN TWO TIMES THE LIMIT. AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THIS, BORROWING TO FUND ANY INITIATIVE IS NOT A VIABLE OPTION, AT LEAST IN 2025. WE WILL DO ANOTHER CALCULATION IN IN OCTOBER AROUND BUDGET 2026 PREPARATIONS AND SEEK VALIDATION FROM MACA TO SEE HOW WE ARE TRENDING NOW. THAT WAS THE PROBLEM.

THE NEXT QUESTION IS WHAT? WHAT CAN WE DO TO CORRECT THIS ISSUE? ONE OF THE STEPS THAT WE CAN TAKE IS TO TRY TO REDUCE OUR LIST OF WORK IN PROGRESS, BECAUSE THESE ARE TIED TO OUR CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS. WE SHOULD TRY TO KEEP THIS BASKET AS LIGHT AS WE CAN, BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT IN THE DEBT SERVICE CALCULATIONS, BUT ALSO BECAUSE THE PROJECTS UNDER CONSTRUCTION ARE VULNERABLE TO SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, INFLATIONS AND OTHER EVENTS THAT THAT CAN AFFECT OUR FINANCIAL POSITION.

OPPOSITION. THE IDEA IS TO BE VERY FOCUSED ON A SMALL NUMBER OF PROJECTS FROM START TO FINISH, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO HAVE TOO MANY PROJECTS HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME, WHICH THEN CREATES OVEREXPOSURE OF ALL SORTS.

I WILL GIVE ONE SIMPLE EXAMPLE. IN ONE OF THE PREVIOUS COMMUNITIES WHERE I WORKED, WE USED TO DO A HEAVY AND COSTLY PROJECTS EVERY OTHER YEAR AND COMPLETE SMALLER QUICK WIN PROJECTS IN BETWEEN. SIMILAR TO THE PAVING PROGRAM APPROACH THAT OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM HAS ALREADY IMPLEMENTED,

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SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT INSTEAD OF JUST PILING ON PROJECTS.

BUT ANYWAY, THIS IS SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER AT BUDGET 2026 DISCUSSION TIME.

BUT AT DECEMBER 31ST, 2024, WE HAD 80.8 MILLION AS WORK IN PROGRESS IN PROJECTS.

HOWEVER, WITH A COMPLETION OF THE AQUATIC CENTER.

ONCE AGAIN, KUDOS TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES TEAM FOR THEIR FANTASTIC JOB.

THIS BALANCE WILL DROP TO AN ACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF 10.5 MILLION, WHICH WILL INCLUDE, AMONGST OTHERS, 1.8 MILLION WORTH OF LAND FUND PROJECTS, 1.2 MILLION FOR THE FIRE HALL RENOVATIONS AND 2.4 MILLION FOR THE SUBMARINE WATER LINE.

BEFORE I CONCLUDE THIS PRESENTATION, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST GIVE A QUICK UPDATE ON THE 2023 WILDFIRE COSTS.

PREVIOUSLY, THE CITY HAD SUBMITTED CLAIMS OF APPROXIMATELY 11.5 MILLION TO THE NWT.

HOWEVER, IN 2024, WE SUBMITTED A FURTHER 2 MILLION OF EXPENDITURE CLAIMS UNDER THE DISASTER FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE ARRANGEMENTS PROGRAM.

THESE CLAIMS INCLUDED, AMONGST OTHERS, LATE INVOICES RECEIVED FROM VENDORS AND CITIES, PAYROLL COSTS THAT WERE STILL BEING PROCESSED AT THE END OF 2023.

AS OF DATE, MACA HAS ADVISED THE CITY TO REMOVE EQUIPMENT COSTS OF AROUND $460,000 FROM OUR CLAIMS AS THEY HAVE BEEN DEEMED INELIGIBLE, AND AS SUCH, THE TOTAL EXPECTED REFUND FROM THE GNWT IS NOW 12.8 MILLION.

AS OF NOTE, WE HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED 2.9 MILLION TO DATE, AND WE ARE SILENTLY CONFIDENT OF RECOUPING THE REMAINING 9.9 MILLION IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THE ONLY QUESTION MARK FOR NOW IS THE TIMING OF WHEN, FINALLY, THE AUDIT COMMITTEE HAD ASKED THE AUDITORS TO LOOK INTO TWO VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

THE FIRST, DID VENDORS CLAIM MORE THAN THEY WERE ENTITLED TO? THE ANSWER IS NO. THE AUDITORS FOUND NO SUCH ISSUE AND CONCLUDED, BASED ON THEIR TESTING, THAT THE RISK OF A MATERIAL AMOUNT OF VENDOR CLAIMS BEING REIMBURSED FOR AN AMOUNT HIGHER THAN ALLOWED OR LOW.

A SECOND. DID ANY OF THE SUPPLIERS PAY TWICE FOR THE SAME INVOICE? AGAIN, THE AUDITORS FOUND NO EVIDENCE BASED ON THEIR TESTING THAT THE SUPPLIER WAS PAID TWICE.

I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK MR. GREENCORN, WHO PUT A COLOSSAL AMOUNT OF TIME AND EFFORT AND DILIGENCE IN VETTING ALL THE INVOICES THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY FOR PAYMENT. YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN HOW HAPPY HE WAS AROUND THAT TIME.

HIS EFFORTS HAVE CLEARLY PAID DIVIDENDS, AS HIGHLIGHTED BY THE CONCLUSIONS OF THE AUDITORS.

NOW, TO CONCLUDE THIS PRESENTATION, I WANTED TO DRAW THE COMMITTEE'S ATTENTION ON SOME IMPORTANT ASPECTS.

THAT'S GOING TO BE OF NOTE IN THE COMING YEAR OR SO.

FIRSTLY, DESPITE SOME TOUGH LAST FEW YEARS, THE CITY CONTINUES TO BE IN A GOOD FINANCIAL POSITION.

THAT'S A GOOD THING. THIS ALLOWS US TO PURSUE INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITY'S REPUTATION AS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, WORK AND INVEST. HOWEVER, ADMINISTRATION DOES FORESEE SOME CHALLENGES IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND REMEDIAL ACTIONS WOULD SOON BECOME NECESSARY.

FOR EXAMPLE, EXPENSES ARE GROWING FASTER THAN OUR REVENUES AND THEY HAVE BEEN FOR A WHILE.

CONSEQUENTLY, WE DO NEED TO REASSESS OUR OPERATING EXPENSES, OUR FEES AND CHARGES STRUCTURE, AND OUR COST RECOVERY MODELS. COUNCIL ADMINISTRATION AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH.

SOMEONE IS PAYING FOR IT. WE JUST NEED TO DECIDE WHO AND HOW MUCH.

THE COST ESCALATION THAT WE HAVE SEEN POST COVID 19 DO NOT APPEAR TO FADE AWAY.

AND THAT IS NOT GOOD NEWS AS WE HAVE SOME BIG INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS IN THE PIPELINE.

WHAT COMPLICATES THE CONVERSATION EVEN FURTHER IS OUR BORROWING SITUATION.

AS I MENTIONED IN AN EARLIER SLIDE. AS A RESULT, I FEEL THERE IS AN URGENT NEED FOR THE CITY TO GROW ITS POPULATION AND TO EMBRACE AN EVEN MORE DISCIPLINED APPROACH TOWARDS ITS LONG RANGE FINANCIAL PLANNING AND DECISION MAKING.

I BELIEVE THESE STEPS WILL HELP PROVIDE A FINANCIAL BUFFER FOR CITY RESIDENTS AGAINST FUTURE DEBT OBLIGATIONS AND RISING EXPENDITURES.

FINALLY, AS I HAVE MENTIONED IT BEFORE, AND I CANNOT SAY IT ENOUGH, THERE IS NO PANIC AND THE SKY IS NOT FALLING.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. PANDU, FOR THE PRESENTATION.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? COUNCILLOR COCHRANE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR. AND THANK YOU TO DIRECTOR PANDU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND FOR ALWAYS PUTTING FUN INTO THE CITY'S FUNDS.

THE ONE THING I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, BECAUSE I THINK THIS COULD ALSO HIT UPON OUR ADVOCACY ROLE, IS THE SILENT CONFIDENCE WITHIN RECEIVING THE LEFTOVER TRANSFERS FROM THE GNWT.

AND I IMAGINE ON THEIR BEHALF, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR RECEIVING WHAT WE CAN GET FOR WILDFIRES.

SO, WHAT IS THE HOLDUP IN THE TIMELINES? DO WE HAVE A SPECIFIC REASON? MR. VAN DINE THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. SO, WE'VE BEEN WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH MUNICIPAL AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS ON A REGULAR BASIS IN TERMS OF GIVING THEM OUR INVOICES. MR. PANDU HAS BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH HIS COUNTERPARTS THERE ON TRACKING THEIR FUNDS.

WE DO NOT HAVE A DETAILED ESTIMATE AS TO WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO BE COMING IN, OTHER THAN WE ARE EXPECTING SOME ASSURANCES THAT THEY WILL COME THIS YEAR.

THIS YEAR OKAY THAT I CAN LIVE WITH. I DO STILL THINK THAT OBVIOUSLY ON OUR PART, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OTHER POLITICAL ACTORS AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS ABOUT SPEEDING THAT UP OR ASSURING THAT IT REMAINS WITHIN THE YEAR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE ADMINISTRATION. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR COCHRANE, COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANKS TO COMMITTEE AND STAFF FOR ALL THEIR WORK.

IT'S NOT WITHOUT SINCERE SADNESS THAT I'M NO LONGER ON THE COMMITTEE.

SO, THANK YOU, KATHY, FOR YOUR WORK. I JUST HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

THE $40 MILLION NUMBER AROUND THE DEBT SERVICING LIMIT.

WILL THAT BE IMPACTED BY THE COMPLETION OF THE AQUATIC CENTER? MR. VAN DINE. I THINK I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. PANDU FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. YES, I BELIEVE SO.

TAKEN IN ISOLATION, IT SHOULD IMPROVE, IF ANY, THAT THE CALCULATION.

HOWEVER, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? YOU KNOW, THE CALCULATION AND ANY RESULT THAT WE SEE, EVEN IF WE DO IT AROUND APRIL OR MAY, HAS A LOWER VALUE THAN WHEN WE DO IT IN AROUND BUDGET TIME.

AND WHEN BUDGET TIME COMES AROUND, THERE WILL BE MORE PROJECTS ADDED.

SO HOW MUCH THAT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE? WE DON'T KNOW YET.

SO COMING TO YOUR QUESTION, YEAH, TAKING THE COMPLETION OF THE AQUATIC CENTER WILL POSITIVELY IMPACT THE CALCULATION.

COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN. YEAH. UNDERSTOOD. THANKS.

AND, YEAH, WE'LL BE KEEN TO SEE THAT CALCULATION IN OCTOBER AND DURING BUDGET DELIBERATIONS.

THANKS FOR DOING THAT. YEAH, I THINK I'LL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS IN THE MEMO.

IT TALKED ABOUT $4 MILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO LAND FUND.

HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT DURING BUDGET.

I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE TIME HERE TO FUSS ABOUT HOW TRANSFERS WORK AND WHAT THE MONEY'S FOR.

BUT YEAH, THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL THE WORK AND THANKS FOR COMMITTEE AND THE AUDITOR'S WORK TO ADDRESS THE TWO VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT WILDFIRE COSTS, IF ANY MEDIA ARE WATCHING. THAT'S A, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THOSE TWO VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

FOR ANYONE WHO MAY BE ASKING THOSE SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COLLEAGUES? NO. THEN WITH THAT, I MEAN, COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN YOU HAD TO STEP AWAY, BUT I'M STEPPING IN NOW.

SO, YOU KNOW, WITH COUNCILLOR FEQUET. SO, WE HAD ALL THE FUN AT AUDIT COMMITTEE THIS YEAR.

SO YEAH, NO THANK YOU TO THE, THE FINANCE TEAM FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK GETTING THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS READY.

SO, WITH NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS WILL THE AUDITED 2024 AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS WILL COME FORWARD TO COUNCIL AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING ON MAY 26TH. SO NEXT ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE A MEMO REGARDING WHETHER TO FILL A VACANCY ON CITY COUNCIL AND WHETHER TO APPOINT

[5. A memorandum regarding whether to fill a vacancy on City Council and whether to appoint a Deputy Mayor.]

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. SO WE'VE PROVIDED A MEMO TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION ON THE DECISION ON WHETHER TO APPOINT A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO REPLACE A VACANCY THAT'S BEEN CREATED AS A RESULT OF THE RESIGNATION OF REBECCA ALTY.

NOW, MINISTER ALTY AND YOUR APPOINTMENT AS MAYOR AND THE OPTIONS HAVE BEEN LAID OUT QUITE CLEARLY AS THEY HAD BEEN ON THE ON THE PREVIOUS MATTER TO QUESTION AS TO WHETHER TO HOLD A BY ELECTION OR WHETHER TO APPOINT FROM WITHIN OR WHETHER TO MAINTAIN A VACANCY.

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AND THAT IS A POSITION THAT WE BELIEVE HAS SOME OPERATIONAL IMPORT GIVEN THE BUSYNESS OF THE OF THE AGENDA AND THE TASKS BEFORE US OVER THE NEXT NUMBER OF MONTHS.

SO, WE'RE INVITING COUNCIL TO, TO GIVE THAT SOME CONSIDERATION TODAY.

I WOULD HOPE THAT MEMBERS HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST DISCUSS AMONGST THEMSELVES INFORMALLY.

AND TODAY IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HEAR WHAT THE THOUGHTS ARE ON HOW TO PROCEED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. VAN DINE. SO, TO MY COLLEAGUES, WE HAVE OUR TWO DECISION POINTS.

AS MR. VAN DINE JUST MENTIONED, ONE AROUND IF AND HOW TO FILL THE VACANCY ON COUNCIL.

AND THEN TWO IS WHO TO APPOINT AS DEPUTY MAYOR.

IF YOU'RE ALL RIGHT WITH IT, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE ACTUALLY DEAL WITH THE DEPUTY MAYOR. QUESTION FIRST, BECAUSE I THINK IT MIGHT BE A BIT EASIER OR QUICKER, AND THEN WE CAN GET INTO THE BROADER DISCUSSION. OKAY. SO, WITH THAT I KNOW COUNCILOR WARBURTON, ALTHOUGH HE'S NOT HERE, HE LET ME KNOW IN ADVANCE OF TODAY'S MEETING THAT HE WOULD BE WILLING TO PUT HIS NAME FORWARD FOR DEPUTY MAYOR.

SO, WITH THAT, THOUGH, I SEE COUNCILLOR FEQUET YOU HAVE A QUESTION.

BUT JUST BEFORE WE GET TO THAT JUST IF THERE'S ANY OTHER COLLEAGUES WHO ARE INTERESTED IN PUTTING THEIR NAME FORWARD FOR DEPUTY MAYOR.

NO. OKAY. THEN COUNCILOR FEQUET, I'LL LET YOU ASK YOUR QUESTION OR COMMENT FIRST IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO.

I WAS SIMPLY TO MOVE THE MOTION. HAPPY DAYS. BY ALL MEANS, GO FOR IT.

OKAY. WE'LL ACCEPT THAT AS THE MOVING THEN. CAN I GET A SECONDER THEN TO COUNCILOR ARDEN-SMITH? SO WITH THAT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? HAPPY DAYS. OKAY.

SO WE'LL BRING FORWARD THE APPOINTMENT OF COUNCILLOR ROB WARBURTON AS DEPUTY MAYOR TO OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

SO WITH THAT, THEN THE SECOND AND LARGER QUESTION, I THINK IN TERMS OF HOW TO FILL THE VACANCY IF WE DECIDE TO FILL THE VACANCY.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES AROUND THAT.

COUNCILLOR ARDEN-SMITH. YOU CAN START IT OFF.

THANK YOU. QUESTION TO ADMINISTRATION. WHAT ARE THE CONS IF WE DON'T FILL THIS POSITION? IS THERE ANYTHING PRESSING AMONGST COUNCIL IF WE DON'T FILL THE NINTH SPOT? MR. VAN DINE. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. MR. CHAIR, THE CONS ARE ABOUT WORKLOAD AND BALANCE AND WHAT COULD BE EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT LITTLE WHILE.

18 MONTHS STILL OR SO STILL REMAINS IN THE COUNCIL'S MANDATE.

THE WORK PLAN DISCUSSION WHICH WILL FOLLOW IS A CONTINUATION OF WHAT COUNCIL STARTED A FEW WEEKS BACK.

SO THERE'S A SIZABLE AGENDA THERE TO BE DONE.

DEPENDING ON HOW COUNCIL GOES NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS, NOT NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, BUT AT SOME POINT, THERE MAY BE A NEED TO REVIEW MEMBERSHIP ON COMMITTEES MORE GENERALLY.

AND SO IN THAT LIGHT HAVING A FULL COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO SIT AND BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE FULLY IN ALL OF THOSE COMMITTEES, I THINK WOULD BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IF AS A OR THE INABILITY, I SHOULD SAY, TO FILL ALL THOSE COMMITTEES TO THE EXTENT THAT COUNCIL FEELS COMFORTABLE WOULD BE A CON IF YOU DO NOT PROCEED.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE IF WE DO FILL THE POSITION WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN GETTING THAT INDIVIDUAL UP TO SPEED? BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO AND A HALF YEARS ON THEM ON WORK THAT WE HAVE ALREADY DONE AND ORIENTATION ON TOP OF THAT.

MR. VAN DINE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION, MR. CHAIR. YES, ABSOLUTELY. SO WE I'VE INSTRUCTED THE TEAM HERE ON THIS SIDE TO GIVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS IN MIND IF COUNCIL WAS TO PROCEED WITH AN APPOINTMENT FROM A COMMITTEE MEMBER AT LARGE THAT HAS ENABLED US TO ACTUALLY KICK START SOME WORK THAT WE WERE PLANNING TO DO ANYWAY IN PREPARATION FOR ELECTION 2026. AND THAT IS REFRESHING OUR ORIENTATION MATERIAL.

SO, I'VE ASKED MY TEAM TO LOOK INTO WHAT COULD BE AN ABRIDGED PACKAGE OF ORIENTATION MATERIAL.

SHOULD COUNCIL ELECT TO BRING SOMEONE ON TO FILL THE ROLE? AND WE'RE LOOKING TO ORGANIZE AN ABBREVIATED VERSION OF ORIENTATION AND OFFER SOME BRIEFINGS TO, TO THE INDIVIDUAL AS APPROPRIATE TO HELP CLOSE THE, THE GAP, SO TO SPEAK.

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OKAY. PERFECT. WELL, BASED ON THIS I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF ENSURING THAT WE HAVE A FULL COUNCIL.

SO FILLING THE NINTH ROLE AND AS PER OUR ELECTION THAT WE DID HAVE ROB FOOTE WAS THE NEXT IN LINE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIM BEING PUT INTO THIS ROLE OR BEING ASKED IF HE WOULD LIKE TO JOIN US PRIOR TO JUST APPOINTING HIM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILLOR ARDEN-SMITH. AND YEAH, AND JUST ON THE QUESTION OF ORIENTATION, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT I'M COMMITTED TO, IF WE DO GO THAT ROUTE MAKING SURE THAT I'M COMMITTING MY TIME TO THAT AS WELL.

SO, FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, IN ADDITION TO THE MINUTES, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILLOR COCHRANE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR. TO THE OVERALL PRINCIPLE OF THE MATTER, I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF APPOINTMENT.

WE AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY SHOULD ALSO ALWAYS HAVE AN EQUAL NUMBER.

WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO VOTING. A 4-4 FAIL ON THE FLOOR IS AN INCREDIBLY UNNECESSARY TACK FOR US TO BE ABLE TO TAKE WITHIN THE TIME SPAN WE HAVE LEFT.

THERE IS PRECEDENT FOR THIS AS WELL. IN 1991, WHEN COUNCILLOR DALTON WAS FORCED TO RESIGN.

COUNCILLOR BROOKS. BOB BROOKS THEN TOOK UPON HIS PLACE AND PROCEEDED TO SERVE FOR ANOTHER SEVEN TERMS. UNTIL THIS DAY REMAINS OUR LONGEST SERVING COUNCILOR IN OUR HISTORY.

MORE TO IT, TOO. THERE IS, BY THAT CONVENTION, A NATURAL LINE OF SUCCESSION THAT GOES WITHIN THOSE WHO ARE PROVIDED THE DEMOCRATIC MANDATE IN THE PRIOR ELECTION. THEREFORE, THE ONLY PERSON WHO I COULD SEE POSSIBLY BEING ABLE TO FILL THE ROLE IS THOSE WHO ARE PROVIDED THE DEMOCRATIC MANDATE THROUGH THE 2022. FIRST, GOING FROM ROB.

AND IF THEREFORE HE SAYS NO, WE WOULD GO DOWN THE LINE.

AND IF AT THAT POINT THAT ALL SAID NO, WE WOULD THEN HAVE TWO OPTIONS WHETHER TO NOT FILL THE ROLE OR GO INTO A BY ELECTION.

THESE ARE NOT ONLY CONVENTIONS OF THROUGH THIS COUNCIL.

IT IS A NATURAL CONVENTION WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.

OUR AUTHORITY AND OUR LEGAL AUTHORITY IS DERIVED THROUGH DEMOCRATIC MANDATES.

IF WE APPOINTED ANYBODY ELSE OUTSIDE OF THAT REALM, IT WOULD PUT THIS COUNCIL INTO DISREPUTE AND QUESTION THE VERY LEGITIMACY OF OUR FORMATION. THEREFORE, I FULLY SUPPORT ROB FOOTE IF HE IS SO WILLING TO JOIN US ON THIS COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILOR COCHRANE ALWAYS WELL SUMMARIZED.

APPRECIATE IT. COUNCILLOR FEQUET. AND THEN COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.

AND THEN COUNCILLOR PAYNE. THANKS, MR. CHAIR.

I ALSO SUPPORT APPOINTING AN INDIVIDUAL TO FILL THE CURRENT VACANCY ON COUNCIL.

YELLOWKNIFE HAS SELECTED THE CURRENT COUNCIL THROUGH A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. SO TO USE THOSE SAME RESULTS OF THE ELECTION AND ADD THE PERSON WITH THE NEXT MOST SUPPORT THAT'S WILLING FROM RESIDENTS REFLECTS THE WILL OF THE COMMUNITY.

I ALSO APPRECIATE THE POINT THAT LINE BY ADMINISTRATION IN THE MEMO REGARDING THE DISRUPTION THAT WILL TAKE PLACE WHEN THE DYNAMICS OF THE CURRENT COUNCIL TEAM HAS CHANGED, AND THE TIME IT WILL TAKE TO ORIENT A NEW COUNCILOR. BUT I BELIEVE THAT IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE, MAYOR AND COUNCIL SHOULD BE ABLE TO SHOULDER THE MAJORITY OF THE ORIENTATION WORK.

HAVING AN ADDITIONAL PERSPECTIVE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE REMAINING DISCUSSIONS AND DEBATES IS ALWAYS HELPFUL.

AND MAXIMIZING THE INDIVIDUALS SERVING THE COMMUNITY IN THE CAPACITY AS COUNCILOR ALLOWS OUR TEAM TO CONNECT WITH OUR RESPECTIVE CIRCLES AND NETWORKS OF RESIDENTS TO AN EVEN WIDER DEGREE. AND AS COUNCILLOR COCHRANE JUST ALLUDED TO ONE OF OUR MOST IMPORTANT RESPONSIBILITIES, OF COURSE, IS SUCCESSION PLANNING, BOTH IN THE CITY MANAGER POSITION BUT WITHIN OUR BENCH.

SO, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW ONE MORE RESIDENT IN OUR COMMUNITY THE OPPORTUNITY TO STEP UP IN A LEADERSHIP ROLE.

SO, FOR ALL OF THOSE REASONS, I THINK THAT THE MINIMAL DISRUPTION THAT MIGHT OCCUR IS OUTWEIGHED BY THE MULTITUDE OF BENEFITS.

I WOULD SUPPORT APPOINTING AN INDIVIDUAL TO FILL THE VACANCY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILOR FEQUET. COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M ALSO IN FAVOR OF APPOINTMENT.

I SUPPORT THIS VERSUS A BY ELECTION FOR THE SAME REASONS I DID FOR THE MAYOR POSITION.

IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONTINUE OUR WORK AND NOT TAKE STAFF AWAY FROM THEIRS.

DEMOCRACY VERSUS GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY IS ALWAYS A DELICATE BALANCE, AND I THINK IN THIS INSTANCE, EFFICIENCY SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED TO ADDRESS THE DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPAL QUESTION IN SUPPORT OF APPOINTING ROB FOOTE AS THE RECEIVING THE NINTH VOTES, NINTH MOST VOTES IN THE 2022 ELECTION. AND WITH REGARD TO APPOINTMENT VERSUS LEAVING THE SEAT VACANT, I FEEL A FULL SLATE OF VOICES IS IMPORTANT TO OUR DECISION MAKING.

LEAVING THE SEAT VACANT WOULD DENY US AN ADDITIONAL PERSPECTIVE. GRANTED, THE CHALLENGE OF COMING IN AFTER TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

BUT I BELIEVE THIS IS POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SUPPORT COMMITTED BY MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THEREFORE, I'M IN SUPPORT OF APPOINTING ROB FOOTE, AND I BELIEVE THIS IS THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION THAT WOULD ALLOW US THE BEST AND MOST PRUDENT DECISION MAKING MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN AND COUNCILLOR PAYNE.

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I MEAN, GARRETT TOOK ALL MY WORDS. THAT WAS WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

BUT I DO SUPPORT ROB IN, IN TAKING THAT COUNCIL SEAT.

I'VE KNOWN RALPH FOR YEARS. HE'S A VERY FAIR INDIVIDUAL.

HE HAS HIGH MORALS, HIGH VALUES, AND I THINK THAT HE WOULD BE A VERY GOOD SPOKESPERSON FOR THE CITY FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE.

SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WELCOMING HIM ONTO OUR LITTLE TEAM HERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILOR PAYNE.

COUNCILLOR MCGURK? I WON'T BEAT A DEAD HORSE.

WE DON'T RUN IN WARDS, AND WE HAVE A RANKED BALLOT VOTING, SO THE NEXT PERSON IN LINE WOULD BE THE PERSON THAT THE COMMUNITY CHOSE.

SO I'M IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH.

AND FOR MYSELF, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH ALL OF YOU AS MY COLLEAGUES. YOU KNOW, AFTER THE 2022 ELECTION YOU ALL GAVE ME THE CHANCE TO BE CHAIR OF CAB FOR TWO AND A BIT YEARS. AND THE FIRST THING I DID AFTER THAT ELECTION WAS REACH OUT TO MR. FOOTE IN ORDER TO WELCOME HIM TO SEE IF HE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN JOINING CAB.

AND HE DID IMMEDIATELY. AND HE'S BEEN PROBABLY ONE OF, IF NOT THE MOST ACTIVE AND ENGAGED MEMBER OF CAB SINCE THAT ELECTION.

SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO, TO BRING HIM INTO COUNCIL, IF HE'S WILLING.

SO, WITH THAT ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM ANYBODY? OKAY. SO IF WE CAN GET A MOTION, MAYBE I'LL ASK COUNCILOR ARDEN-SMITH SINCE YOU HAD STARTED IT OFF TO APPOINT.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, IT'LL BE DEPENDENT ON ADMIN REACHING OUT TO HIM AND ALL OF THAT, BUT WE'LL START IT OFF. GO AHEAD, COUNCILOR ARDEN-SMITH. THANK YOU. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT ROB. ROB FOOTE AS OUR NINTH COUNCILOR.

VERY GOOD. WELL, WHAT? EIGHTH. BUT. YEAH. WELL, SENTIMENT.

SENTIMENT IS ALL TOGETHER. SENTIMENT IS THERE AND SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PAYNE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT'S UNANIMOUS. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR THAT ENGAGING CONVERSATION.

I THINK IT REALLY HIGHLIGHTS THE QUALITY OF THE PERSON WHO WE'RE REACHING OUT TO ON THIS.

SO THAT'S GREAT. NEXT UP WE HAVE A MEMO REGARDING WHETHER TO ADOPT THE 2025 2026 REVISED WORK PLAN,

[6. A memorandum regarding whether to adopt the 2025‐2026 Revised Work Plan.]

AT THAT TIME, WE WERE LOOKING TO GET COUNCIL'S REACTION TO SOME SUGGESTIONS AND PROPOSALS TO SHIFT SOME ITEMS INTO FUTURE YEARS TO ALLOW US TO FOCUS ON A REVISED LIST OF TIER ONE OR NEAR-TERM ACTIVITIES.

WE ALSO MADE SOME SUGGESTIONS WITH RESPECT TO, MOVING SOME OF THOSE ITEMS INTO WHAT WOULD BE MORE OF A THINKING OR GARDEN PLOT KIND OF AREA FOR US TO, TO COGITATE OVER AND PERHAPS BRING FORWARD IN TIME FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.

AND WE HAD MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS WITH RESPECT TO REMOVING THINGS FROM THE WORK PLAN, AGAIN, WITH A VIEW OF TRYING TO LIGHTEN THE LOAD, BUT ALSO MARK SOME PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN MADE TO ALLOW US TO DO THAT ON CERTAIN ITEMS. I ALSO TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE COUNCIL SOME INDICATION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR COLLECTIVE OPERATING ENVIRONMENT AND GENERAL ECONOMY.

THAT MIGHT HAVE SOME IMPACT ON THE MUNICIPALITY.

QUESTIONS WITH RESPECT TO INVESTMENTS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF NATIONAL DEFENSE QUESTIONS WITH RESPECT TO WHAT MAY BE HAPPENING ON THE EXPLORATION AND MINING SIDE, QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT COME FORWARD AS A RESULT OF NEW FEDERAL PRIORITIES AS A RESULT OF THE NEW GOVERNMENT AROUND CANADA BUILDING PROJECTS. THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT ARE SORT OF OUT THERE IN THE ETHER THAT WILL NEED TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO, HOPEFULLY IN A POSITIVE WAY. IF, IF THAT SHOULD HAPPEN.

AND SO TODAY IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO GIVE FOCUS TO WHAT THEY'VE COMMITTED TO WHERE THEY BELIEVE THEY REALLY WANT TO GET OVER THE WHAT THEY WANT TO GET OVER THE FINISH LINE BEFORE 2026 OR BY THE END OF THE MANDATE OF THIS, OF THIS CURRENT COUNCIL AND TO GIVE FEEDBACK TO ADMINISTRATION ON WHERE WE MAY PLACE GREATER EMPHASIS OR PERHAPS REALLOCATE TIME AND EFFORT.

SO, WITH THAT, MR. CHAIR, I'LL JUST TURN IT BACK TO YOU FOR INITIATING THE DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. VAN DINE. SO, THE LAST TIME WE HAD DISCUSSED THIS WE ON THE FIFTH WE HAD LEFT IT AFTER SORT OF A FIRST ROUND OF QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILLOR FEQUET. SO WE'LL HOLD OFF COUNCILLOR FEQUET ON ANY FURTHER FROM YOU AT THE MOMENT AND WE'LL SEE IF ANY OTHER COLLEAGUES HAVE ANYTHING ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS POINT? IN ORDER TO GO COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN OVER TO YOU.

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NOW. BUT I'LL JUST GO THROUGH MY GENERAL QUESTIONS AS TO THE WORK PLAN FIRST.

SO, MY FIRST ONE WAS I DIDN'T SEE THE 2026, 20, 36 CLIMATE CHANGE PLAN IN THE WORK PLAN ANYWHERE.

JUST WONDERING IS THAT STILL IN THERE? MR. VAN DINE? I FEEL LIKE IT IS THEIR CLIMATE ACTION CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.

SO IF YOU GO DOWN TO PAGE FOUR OF 13 OF THE WORK PLAN, IT'S THE LAST ROW OF THAT TABLE.

OKAY. RIGHT ON. I MUST HAVE BEEN IN THE WRONG DOCUMENT.

NO. YOU'RE FINE. DID NOT FIND CLIENT ANYWHERE.

YOU'RE GREAT. IT COULD ALSO BE. SOMETIMES I FIND TO LIKE JUST WITH THE PDF.

SOMETIMES IF YOU'RE OPENING IT ON THE ONLINE VERSION, IT DOESN'T DO THE WORD SEARCH. RIGHT.

ANYWAY. SIDE NOTE. OKAY, BACK TO YOURSELF. SWEET.

GREAT. SO, PAGE THREE DOES ADMIN PLAN TO DO THE PLACE BRANDING WORK IN HOUSE, OR WOULD THIS BE MORE SUITABLE AS PART OF THE DESTINATION MARKETING ORGANIZATIONS WORK? MR. VAN DINE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

FOR THE QUESTION. WE TO MY KNOWLEDGE, UNLESS I HAVE ONE OF MY TEAM MEMBERS ARE ITCHING TO JUMP AT THE MIC.

WE HAVE NOT TURNED OUR ATTENTION TO THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT.

AT THIS JUNCTURE, WE IDENTIFIED IT AS A AS A COMMITMENT THAT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL OR SORRY, PREVIOUS EARLY WORK PLAN HAD IDENTIFIED AS BEING AN AREA OF FOCUS.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THE DESTINATION OFFICE, ONCE ESTABLISHED, WOULD BE DEFINITELY A ONE AVENUE WITH WHICH TO CONSULT ON THAT APPROACH.

BUT THAT'S WE'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO COUNCIL WITH A MORE DETAILED PLAN ON HOW TO RESOLVE THAT, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE DESTINATION OFFICE. GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND JUST SOME CLARIFICATION ON DEVELOPMENT OF FINANCIAL POLICY, ASSET MANAGEMENT.

I KNOW KATHY JUST HINTED AT IT EARLIER. JUST SOME CLARITY ON WHAT EXACTLY THAT IS AND WHEN WE TO EXPECT IT.

MR. VAN DINE? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. SO I THINK COUNCIL MAY BE RECALL THAT THERE WAS A COMMITMENT TO UNDERTAKE AN ASSET MANAGEMENT STRATEGY FOR THE CITY IT IS FOUND TO BE ONE OF THE BETTER PRACTICES IN MUNICIPAL FINANCIAL ADMINISTRATION ACROSS CANADA.

IT'S AN, IT'S A PROJECT WITH WHICH WE'VE ENGAGED A CONSULTING FIRM TO HELP US UNDERTAKE THE PROPER METHODOLOGIES TO DO THAT, DO THAT WORK. WE WERE FAIRLY AMBITIOUS IN THE FIRST ITERATION OF THIS WORK PLAN A YEAR AGO AS TO WHERE WE WOULD BE, ONLY TO FIND THAT AS WE DUG INTO IT, THAT WORK HAS NOT PROGRESSED AS QUICKLY AS WE HAD HAD HOPED.

THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DATA COLLECTION THAT'S REQUIRED ON EACH ASSET CLASS, AS WELL AS SOME ADDITIONAL WORK TO CALCULATE OUR RISK MANAGEMENT FRAMEWORK.

I WON'T GO INTO ANYMORE . DR. PANDU KIND OF LAND.

DESCRIPTION OF THAT FOR YOU TODAY. OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT WE'RE HOPING THAT BY THE BUDGET CONVERSATION OF BUDGET 2026, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO INFORM SOME LEVEL OF PROGRESS IN THAT AREA TO INFORM COUNCIL.

SUFFICE IT TO SAY THAT WHEN WE DO HAVE THAT ASSET MANAGEMENT STRATEGY PUT IN PLACE, IT WILL TAKE WHAT MR. PANDU HAS DESCRIBED AS BEING A PRESSURE ON THE ORGANIZATION WITH RESPECT TO CAPITAL OVERALL, AND HOW WE USE AND BUILD OUR TEN YEAR CAPITAL PLAN WILL BE A BIT OF A TECTONIC SHIFT ON HOW WE LOOK AT THINGS AND HOW WE BALANCE THINGS.

AND SO, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THE WORK RIGHT AND BRING IT FORWARD TO COUNCIL WITH ALL OF THE ABILITIES AND ANALYSIS THAT, THAT IT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED SO IT WILL COME FORWARD.

WE ARE OUT BY, I BELIEVE, 12 MONTHS FROM THE ORIGINAL TIMELINE THAT WE HAD PUT IN PLACE.

AND I'LL JUST CONFIRM THAT WITH MR. PANDU. YES.

12 MONTHS OUT. YOU COULDN'T SEE THAT COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.

BUT IT WAS CONFIRMED. BACK TO YOU, COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND JUST A BRIEF DESCRIPTION ABOUT ON PAGE EIGHT.

THE WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURE AND WATER MASTER PLAN.

I JUST BELIEVE THAT IS A NEW ONE. AND WILL WE BE JUST A DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THAT IS? AND WILL WE BE LOOKING FOR FUNDING THAT IN THE 2026 BUDGET? MR. VAN DINE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I BELIEVE WHAT WE WERE DOING WITH THAT REFERENCE IS TO CONSOLIDATE A COUPLE OF

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SO THAT'S MORE OF A NOTATIONAL ADJUSTMENT. SO COUNCIL IS AWARE THAT WE'VE FOR THE WATER LINE AND THE UPGRADES THAT WE'VE RECENTLY BROUGHT TO COUNCIL FOR THEIR APPROVAL TO ADJUST BUDGET TO, TO DEAL WITH THE NEW PUMP STATION.

AND, AND THE REST IS ALL KIND OF INCLUDED IN THAT STRATEGY.

A WATER MASTER PLAN FOR THE CITY IS I THINK, AN AMBITION, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE GOT ANYTHING QUITE IN THE WORKS YET TO BRING FORWARD A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH OTHER THAN THE CAPITAL PLANNING WORK, THAT WE WILL BE PART OF OUR BUDGET 2026 DELIBERATIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I'M IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED RETIREMENTS FROM ADMIN WITH THE EXCEPTION AND THE QUESTIONS I HAVE HERE ABOUT THE GRACE LAKE RECREATIONAL SPACES AND THE DAD NORAD WORKING GROUP.

SO, WERE THE RECREATIONAL SPACES A AND C NOT COMPLETED AS PER THE GRACE LAKE DEVELOPMENT SCHEME? AND IF NOT, WHY NOT? MR. VAN DINE. THANK YOU.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNCILOR OR SORRY, COUNCILLOR.

DIRECTOR WHITE TO GIVE YOU THE DETAILS ON THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.

SO AS PER THE DEVELOPMENT AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR GRACE LAKE.

YES, IT HAS BEEN COMPLETED AS OUTLINED IN THAT PLAN.

HOWEVER, FOLLOWING THE DEVELOPMENT, THERE WERE SOME REQUESTED CHANGES BY RESIDENTS.

HOWEVER, THE PLAN HAS NOT BEEN AMENDED, AND THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN REVIEWING I GUESS THE VIABILITY BECAUSE THERE'S SOME SLOPE ISSUES IN THE AREA. SO AT THIS TIME IT IS DEVELOPED AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO.

HOWEVER, THERE'S SOME FOLLOW UP ITEMS THAT AREN'T BUDGETED THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED BY THE PUBLIC.

THANK YOU. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. AND THEN JUST AN UPDATE ON THE DND, NORAD WORKING GROUP, AND WHY THAT'S BEING STRUCK. ANY UPDATE THERE, MR. VAN DINE? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. SO, WE WILL BE BRINGING THAT BACK INTO THE TRACKING COLUMN, OR AT LEAST WE ARE GOING TO PROPOSE BASED ON THIS DISCUSSION, THERE IS AN ALLUSION TO THE SAME QUESTION, I THINK, ON MAY 5TH. AND SINCE THAT TIME, WE'VE BEEN DOING A LITTLE BIT OF THINKING.

THE REASON WHY IT WAS NOTED THE WAY IT IS, IS, HAS BEEN THE FACT THAT THIS IS AN ONGOING ACTIVITY THAT WE WILL BE TRACKING AND DOING AND WORKING ON FOR, FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND WAS AN ADDITION OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WAS PROPOSED BACK IN MAY.

SO WE WERE JUST TRYING TO RECONCILE THE ORIGINAL WORK PLAN FROM BACK IN MAY WITH THIS ONE AND TRACK IT FORWARD, BUT WE WILL BE RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO INCLUDE IT IN IN THE REVISION AFTER TODAY'S DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL SUPPORT IN TERMS OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN, IN THAT IN THAT VEIN, THERE'S BEEN TWO STREAMS OF ACTIVITY.

THE FIRST STREAM OF ACTIVITY WAS TO ESTABLISH AND FIRM UP OUR WORKING RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR COLLEAGUES AT THE GOVERNMENT OF THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE DEPARTMENT WITH RESPECT TO THE AIRPORT. AND WE HAVE HAD UP TO THREE, IF NOT FOUR, BUSINESS MEETINGS WITH THEM ON PLANS AND ACTIVITIES SURROUNDING INFORMATION WITH RESPECT TO POTENTIAL DND INVESTMENTS.

THAT STREAM OF ACTIVITY THEN WAS BUILT UPON A SECOND STREAM OF ACTIVITY OR THE NEXT STEP IN EFFORT, WHICH WAS AN OUTREACH TO THE DEPARTMENT OF NATIONAL DEFENSE.

WE HAVE DONE THAT. AND WE HAD ONE MEETING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF NATIONAL DEFENSE AND WITH OUR COLLEAGUES AT THE GOVERNMENT OF THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES IN EARLY MARCH.

AND WE HAD TO NOT COMMIT TO A SECOND MEETING.

WE WERE UNABLE TO COMMIT TO A SECOND MEETING AT THAT TIME BECAUSE WE WERE HEADING INTO THE PRECURSOR OF AN ELECTION AND THE CARETAKER PERIOD.

WE HAVE RECEIVED INDICATION BY EMAIL THAT DAD IS CONTINUING OR COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH US AND WITH THE GOVERNMENT OF THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES ON FORWARD PLANNING WITH RESPECT TO THIS EFFORT.

AND THEY ASKED THAT WE GIVE THEM A BIT OF TIME TO ASSEMBLE AFTER THE ELECTION AND THE GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS TO GET ORGANIZED ON THEIR SIDE. AND WE EXPECT TO HEAR FROM THEM IN THE NEXT NUMBER OF WEEKS OR MONTHS ON MOVING THAT WORK FORWARD SO I CAN CONFIRM THAT THIS EFFORT WILL CONTINUE AND WILL NOT BE DROPPED FROM THE WORK PLAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES. I THINK MY OTHER SUGGESTION WAS TO MOVE TO THE GARDEN PLOT THE ARTS AND CULTURE MASTER PLAN IMPLEMENTATION,

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BUT GIVEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE CHALLENGES AND JUST THE HIERARCHY OF NEEDS I THINK THAT'S ONE THING WE CAN PUT ASIDE FOR NOW.

THE REST OF MY QUESTIONS AND PROPOSALS HAVE TO DO WITH VACANT LAND TAX AND THE COMMUNITY PLAN HOUSING POLICY UPDATE.

WOULD IT BE BEST IF I DO THAT IN ROUND TWO AND GIVE COLLEAGUES A CHANCE? OR SHOULD I LAUNCH INTO THAT NOW? GO FOR IT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE, EVERYONE.

SO, DOES ADMIN FEEL LIKE, WORK ON A VACANT LAND TAX OR FEE? FITS IN. COULD FIT INTO THE EXISTING WORK PLAN OR NOT.

AND WOULD OTHER WORK NEED TO BE DELAYED OR CUT IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE IT? MR. VAN DINE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR, FOR THE QUESTION.

SO, I BELIEVE ON MAY 5TH, WE SPOKE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE ORIGINAL HISTORY, AND I WON'T REVISIT THAT TOO MUCH OTHER THAN WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSING ACCELERATOR FUND AND INCREASING DEVELOPMENT INTENSIFICATION, WE LOOKED AT THE INCENTIVES THAT COUNCIL WAS WILLING TO BRING FORWARD AROUND THAT SAME TIME.

QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE WITH RESPECT TO VACANT LAND.

WE'RE NOT PART OF THAT CONVERSATION OR NOT. NOT GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO INTO IT.

WE ARE TURNING OUR ATTENTION NOW TO QUESTIONS.

AND WE ARE BROUGHT THERE IN PART TO BASED ON A QUERY THAT COUNCIL HAD GIVEN US PREVIOUSLY, WITH RESPECT TO THE MILL RATE THE MILL RATE POLICY.

SO, WE'VE BEEN WORKING INTERNALLY SINCE WE NOTED THIS ON THE WORK PLAN TO SEE HOW WE COULD COMBINE SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS INTO A BIT OF A POLICY DISCUSSION, A WIDER POLICY DISCUSSION FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.

I WILL BE URGING COUNCIL TO LOOK TO THE BUDGET CYCLE AND THE BUDGET ITSELF AS THE MORE PREFERABLE DECISION MAKING PERIOD AND DOCUMENT TO MAKE POLICY CHANGE WITH RESPECT TO FINANCIAL ARRANGEMENTS SUCH AS THAT.

BUT WE WILL COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DIG INTO THAT A BIT MORE.

I BELIEVE ON MAY 26TH. NO, IT'LL BE MAY 26TH.

OUR HOPING THAT COUNCIL WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO AT LEAST HAVE AN INTRODUCTORY DISCUSSION ON THAT AS SOON AS SOON AS NEXT WEEK.

THANK YOU. AND WOULD PREPARATION EITHER AS PART OF A MILL RATE POLICY WORK OR BUDGET PREPARATION IN ORDER TO HAVE THE POLICY DISCUSSION AROUND A VACANT LAND TAX INCLUDE THOROUGH REVIEW FROM A LEGAL POINT OF VIEW OF DEFINITIONS TO BE USED AND SPECIFIC WAYS TO AVOID LOOPHOLES AND ANY SECONDARY EFFECTS OF VACANT LAND TAX AS PART OF A BUDGET DISCUSSION. MR. VAN DINE. WE'LL BRING THE FULL ANALYSIS TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION WITH RESPECT TO ENFORCEABILITY AND, AND THE QUESTIONS AROUND IT THESE ARE DIFFICULT.

THESE ARE HISTORICALLY AND AROUND VARIOUS PARTS OF THE COUNTRY.

WHEN DEALING WITH THESE QUESTIONS, CERTAIN VALUES ARISE.

AND THERE'S COMPETING DEMANDS. ON ONE HAND, ARE YOU LOOKING TO REDUCE THE COSTS OF DEVELOPMENT, TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR? ON THE ONE HAND.

AND THEN ON THE OTHER IS YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE THRESHOLD BY WHICH YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST NOT SITTING ON THEIR HANDS AND ALLOWING AND TAKING AWAY AND DETRACTING FROM THE DEVELOPMENT ABILITY OF, OF, OF A COMMUNITY.

AND IT'S A WE'LL, WE'LL BRING ALL OF THAT ANALYSIS FORWARD WHEN WE WHEN WE STARTING NEXT WEEK, WE'LL INTRODUCE MAYBE SOME IDEAS AND PRINCIPLES FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AS WE START TURNING OUR ATTENTION TO WHAT BUDGET 2026 QUESTIONS WE'D LIKE TO PUT FORWARD.

BUT CERTAINLY ENFORCEABILITY AND ANALYSIS WILL BE CERTAINLY AVAILABLE FOR THE DECISION.

WE MAY NOT HAVE THE FULLNESS OF THAT ANALYSIS FOR TIME FOR YOUR DISCUSSION NEXT WEEK, BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO TO THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO JUST TO CONFIRM MY UNDERSTANDING MY UNDERSTANDING IS WORK IS BEING DONE AS PART OF THE MILL RATE

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AN EXTRA TIDBIT TO CONSIDER IS ON THOSE VACANT LAND TAX QUESTIONS.

WE WILL BE TURNING YOUR MINDS TOWARDS THE QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR GEOGRAPHICAL AREA WITHIN THE CITY WITH WHICH YOU WOULD WANT THAT TO APPLY, OR WHETHER THAT WOULD BE MORE OF A GENERAL APPLICATION ACROSS THE CITY.

SO THAT WILL BRING INTO FOCUS SPECIFIC ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO THE DOWNTOWN OR OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY THAT MIGHT BE ON COUNCIL'S MIND.

AWESOME. THAT'S AWESOME. GREAT TO HEAR. YEAH.

THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK. LOOKING FORWARD TO THE BEGINNING OF THE DISCUSSION NEXT WEEK.

AND UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WON'T HAVE THE FULL BREADTH BUT LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

AND THEN JUST ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT ADMINS THOUGHTS ON THE COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATE PROCESS? I JUST NOTICED THAT THE COMPLETION QUARTER THERE IS BACK TO Q4.

SO JUST LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO RUSH THIS TO GET DONE DURING THIS COUNCIL'S PERIOD.

AND IF THERE'S A CHANCE THAT THIS STRADDLES AN ELECTION.

YEAH. JUST THOUGHTS FROM ADMIN ON THE SCHEDULING THERE.

MR. VAN DINE? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION FOR COUNCIL TO BE TURNING THEIR ATTENTION TO RELATIVELY EARLY.

OUR ENGAGEMENT IS JUST REALLY GETTING GOING. AND I HAZARD TO PREDICT HOW THAT ENGAGEMENT WILL GO AND WHETHER THAT WILL HAVE A MATERIAL IMPACT ON, ON OUR SCHEDULED TIMELINES.

THE TIER FOUR HAS BEEN SUGGESTED HERE JUST TO ACCOUNT FOR A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT MIGHT BE SLIPPAGE WITH RESPECT TO THE COMPLETION OF THIS, BASED ON ORIGINAL PLANS THAT WAS PRESENTED BACK IN COUNCIL IN JANUARY.

BUT I'LL INVITE MISS WHITE TO SPEAK TO WHAT? THE CONSTRAINTS AND THE STRADDLING PERIOD.

BUT I FULLY CONCUR THAT RUSHING IS DEFINITELY NOT SOMETHING I THINK WE WANT TO DO WITH AN EXERCISE LIKE THIS.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO WE HAVE INITIATED WITH A CONSULTING FIRM WHO IS HELPING US DO THE CONSULTATION.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE PARALLELING THE DRAFTING OF POLICIES.

SO AS WE HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THE DIFFERENT ENGAGEMENT GROUPS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DRAFT RIGHT NOW, TENTATIVELY INTERNAL, OUR GOAL AND OBJECTIVE IS TO HAVE THE DRAFT READY FOR GPC FOR ACTUALLY Q2 OF 2026.

THEREFORE, ANY ALTERATIONS THAT MAY NEED TO BE MADE BOTH FROM COUNCIL COMMENT AS WELL AS ONCE THAT DOCUMENT BECOMES PUBLIC COULD BE DONE WITHIN THE REMAINDER OF Q2, Q3 WITH FINGERS CROSSED. HOPE TO HAVE IT DONE BEFORE ANY ELECTION AND ANY MOVING FORWARD IN THAT PROCESS.

HOWEVER, AS CITY MANAGER NOTES, WE'RE BUILDING IN SOME TIME JUST IN CASE THINGS DON'T PROGRESS IN THAT IN THAT MANNER.

WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS SO OPTIMISTICALLY.

Q2 BUT YES, WE DO HAVE IT AS Q4 ON THAT LIST.

THANK YOU. AWESOME. YEAH. BOTH BIG PROJECTS. LOOKING FORWARD TO ALL THAT DISCUSSION.

THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK. AND THAT'S IT FOR ME.

THANKS. PATIENCE FROM COLLEAGUES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YEAH. COUNCILLOR COCHRANE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT'S GONE IN TO FROM THE ADMINISTRATION ON THIS WORK PLAN INITIATIVES.

THEY ALL SEEM VERY FEASIBLE AND ALSO AMBITIOUS WITHIN THE TIME SPAN THAT WE HAVE.

I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO STICK TO THE BARE MINIMUM WITHIN OUR 18 MONTHS HERE, WORKING ON MORE CORPORATE ASPECTS INSTEAD OF GOING OUT INTO A LARGER WHAT I WANT TO SAY, COMMUNITY BUILDING KIND OF INITIATIVES, THESE THINGS WILL MAKE THE REAL DIFFERENCE MOVING INTO THE NEXT COUNCIL.

I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, THOUGH. FIRST, ONE, WITHIN TIER ONE SAFETY DIRECTIVES AND PROCEDURE UPDATE.

NOW THAT I ALWAYS THOUGHT WAS A RELATIVELY LIVE DOCUMENT THAT WOULDN'T NEED TO COME TO THE COUNCIL LEVEL.

AND I'M CURIOUS WHY THIS WOULD BE A TIER ONE FOR COUNCIL WHEN I'M ASSUMING THIS IS PRIMARILY OPERATIONAL.

MR. VAN DINE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

AND I, COUNCIL MAY RECALL A COMMENT I MADE EARLIER THAT THE WORK PLANNING PROCESS IS STILL WE'RE STILL LEARNING

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HIGHLIGHTED, I GUESS, TO COUNCILS FOR COUNCIL'S ATTENTION.

SO I THINK THE, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS OBSERVATION IS AN ACCURATE ONE.

THIS IS AN OPERATIONAL ONE. WE WILL BE TAKING CARE OF IT. IT IS EVERGREEN.

PERFECT. THAT'S KIND OF THE CLARITY I WAS LOOKING FOR ON THIS, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T SEE IT AS A NEED TO BE ON HERE.

BUT THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE CLARIFICATION. AND I THINK I ECHO THE STATEMENT BY COUNCILOR MCLENNAN, IT'S SAD THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REMOVE THE ARTS AND CULTURAL MASTER PLAN, AS IT WAS A DURING THE ELECTION, AN ISSUE OF IMPORT TO A VERY LARGE SEGMENT OF STAKEHOLDERS HERE, BUT FROM THE LEVEL OF IMPORTANCE PROVIDED WITHIN THE LEFTOVER TIME, AND ALSO BY THE FACT THAT IT GOES DOWN TO Q4 2026, IT SHOULD BE AN ISSUE FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL, THOUGH I DO HOPE THAT IT IS SOMETHING TO BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE I THINK IT CAN HIT NOT ONLY UPON OUR ARTS AND CULTURE, BUT ALSO WITHIN OUR GROWING TOURISM SECTOR AS WELL.

MY ONLY QUESTION REALLY TOWARDS THIS IS THAT I DO REMEMBER WHEN WE FIRST GOT ON, THAT THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT CHANGING THE SPECIAL EVENTS COORDINATOR INTO THE SPECIAL EVENTS AND ARTS COORDINATOR. IS THAT A DISCUSSION STILL HAPPENING WITHIN ADMINISTRATION? MR. VAN DINE. I'LL THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THE THAT IS A LIVE QUESTION THAT I'M HOPING WILL BE CAPTURED AND DISCUSSED WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATIONAL REVIEW EXERCISE THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDERTAKING, JUST TO ALIGN ALL OF OUR FUNCTIONS AND BITS AND PIECES AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT ALIGNMENT AND SYNERGIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BECAUSE IF WE ARE WITHIN THE TIME SPAN LEFT AFTER THE ORGANIZATIONAL REVIEW, PREPARE TO REWRITE THAT JOB DESCRIPTION. THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD SUPPORT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ALSO FEASIBLE.

AND WITHIN THE TIME ALLOCATION THAT WE HAD, SOMETHING WE CAN DO BEFORE WE HAND THIS OFF TO THE NEXT COUNCIL AND FOR THE ARTS AND CULTURE MASTER PLAN, AGAIN, DO WE HAVE ANY COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, OR IS THAT STILL VERY MUCH UP IN THE AIR WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE? MR. VAN DINE. THANK YOU. DIRECTOR GRANT WHITE WILL RESPOND TO THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE DO OR WE DID PREPARE A IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY FOR THAT MASTER PLAN.

AND THERE WERE SOME BALLPARK FIGURES APPLIED TO IT.

BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT IS DEFINITIVE OR THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN BRING FORWARD IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE.

THANKS. AND THANK YOU, DIRECTOR WHITE. VERY INFORMATIVE.

YES. I WILL SUPPORT REMOVING THAT TO THE GARDEN PLOT, AS SAD AS THAT IS.

THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD SAY AS A COMMENT IS, AS I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, THE NEED FOR A POLICY ANALYST, AS THERE IS SO MUCH POLICY FOR THIS CITY TO GO THROUGH AND IN NEED OF UPDATE, SO I WILL AGAIN ADVOCATE FOR HOPEFULLY THAT COMING DOWN AS A PY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILLOR COCHRANE.

ANYTHING ELSE FROM OTHER COLLEAGUES? OKAY. THEN I'M GOING TO DIVE INTO MY QUESTIONS.

AND JUST TO NOTE TO EVERYBODY, PARDON ME. WITH I KNOW A FEW OF YOU HAD ALL SENT IN QUESTIONS TO ADMIN AND COMMENTS ADMINS BEEN CAPTURING THOSE.

AND SO, WHAT WILL HAPPEN FOR THE GOVERNOR OR FOR THE ACTUAL COUNCIL MEETING WHEN THIS GETS PRESENTED IS THEY'LL DO A BIT OF A RED LINE, YOU KNOW, SHOW US THE CHANGES THAT ARE MADE BASED OFF OF OUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. AND SOME OF THE RESPONSES THAT ADMIN HAS GIVEN JUST FOR THAT CLARITY AS WELL.

SO FOR MYSELF JUST A QUESTION. OVERALL, THE WORK PLAN HAS, YOU KNOW, AT THE VERY TOP IT SAYS YELLOW MAY REQUIRE FUTURE BUDGET ALLOCATION. SO JUST CLARITY ON DOES THIS MEAN FUTURE ADDITIONAL BUDGET ALLOCATION.

DOES IT MEAN THAT WE THINK WE CAN DO IT IN HOUSE AND THEREFORE WE MAY NEED SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE? TRYING TO TEASE OUT THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE RED AND THAT YELLOW COLOR FOR THE COLUMN ON BUDGET.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. SO YELLOW IS THE INDICATES THAT THERE IS SOME LEVEL OF RESOURCES ALLOCATED TOWARDS THE EFFORT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES TO COMPLETE THE TASK.

PERFECT. THANK YOU. JUST ANOTHER COMMENT IS KUDOS TO MR. WHITE AND HIS TEAM, THE AQUATIC CENTER. YOU CAN MOVE TO THE COMPLETE TABLE, SO THAT'S GOOD.

JUST ANOTHER QUESTION IS FOR THE PAINTED BIKE LANES.

I KNOW THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS SPOKE TO THIS THE LAST TIME, BUT JUST FOR SOME CLARITY AROUND Q3 MAKES SENSE WHY IT'S Q3 FROM THE RESPONSE GIVEN THE LAST TIME, BUT JUST ARE WE LOOKING AT LIKE JULY 1ST OR SEPTEMBER 30TH BECAUSE BOTH OF THOSE FIT WITHIN Q3? BUT THAT'S A BIG DISTINCTION OR A BIG DIFFERENCE, RATHER IN TERMS OF WHAT PART OF Q3.

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THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. I'M ACTUALLY WORKING ON A MEMO TO BRING SEVERAL BURNING QUESTIONS BACK TO COUNCIL FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE BIKE LANES.

SO I HOPE TO HAVE THAT ON YOUR PLATE SOMEWHERE AROUND JUNE 9TH.

AND AFTER THAT, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FINAL PARTS OF THE PLANNING EXERCISE FOR THOSE.

THANK YOU. PERFECT. HAPPY DAYS. AGAIN. JUST MORE CLARITY THAN ANYTHING.

SO THANKS FOR THAT. THAT'S DONE AROUND THE COUNCIL TRAVEL POLICY AND COUNCIL LEAVE POLICY.

JUST AGAIN THESE ARE SOMETHING THAT IS THAT SORT OF YELLOW BUDGET.

SO JUST IS IT THAT WE'RE WE NEED EXTERNAL SUPPORT OR IS IT THAT WE NEED MORE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT POTENTIALLY IN ORDER TO GET THESE DONE WITHIN OUR WORK PLAN.

SO WE ARE HEDGING WITH THE YELLOW IN PART BECAUSE WE ARE JUST HAVE JUST BROUGHT ON BOARD SOME NEW STAFF RESOURCES THAT COUNCIL HAD GRANTED US IN BUDGET 2025. AND SO, AS THOSE PEOPLE GET UP AND UNDERWAY, WE'LL ASSESS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE'LL HAVE TO GO TO EXTERNAL TO AUGMENT, GIVEN THE OTHER ASPECTS THAT ARE IN THE WORK PLAN.

SO THAT I WOULD SAY STAY TUNED. OKAY. FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNITY PLAN BYLAW I KNOW THE COMMENT, OR THE RESPONSE WAS ALREADY GIVEN BY DIRECTOR WHITE.

JUST MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE LET'S MOVE IT TO Q3 2026, BECAUSE THAT WAY IT'S CLARITY THAT IT'LL BE DONE WITHIN OUR TERM.

AND IF IT'S NOT, THEN FOR SOME REASON AT LEAST, WE'VE WE'RE DOING OUR CHECK INS AS PART OF OUR WORK PLANNING, AND WE'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE LIVE TO WHAT THAT REALITY IS IN TERMS OF COMING UP TO THE ELECTION.

BUT I THINK IF WE SAY Q3, THEN WE'RE COMMITTING AS A COUNCIL THAT WILL HAPPEN IN OUR TERM.

AND THEN AT LEAST IF IT DOESN'T, FOR SOME REASON, WE'RE VERY CONSCIOUS AND LIVE TO THAT REALITY.

SO THAT WOULD JUST BE MY COMMENT OR, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATION ON THAT.

JUST IN TERMS OF YEAH, THE RETIREMENT'S HAPPY FOR ALL OF THE RETIREMENT RECOMMENDATIONS, AGAIN, IN TERMS OF ADDITIONS OR MOVEMENT WITHIN THE GARDEN PLOT.

SO ONE, I WOULD SAY MOVE THE GRAYSLAKE DEVELOPMENT UP TO THAT FROM THE RETIRE.

BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH. BUT I AGREE, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE IN OUR TOP TIERS.

ANOTHER ONE WOULD BE MOVING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HEAR IF ANY COLLEAGUES DISAGREE WITH ME BUT MOVING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY FROM TIER TWO DOWN TO THE GARDEN PLOT, I JUST THINK BASED OFF OUR DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD AS A GROUP BEFORE THERE'S STILL SOME OUTSTANDING PIECES THERE FROM THE CURRENT 2020 TO 2024.

AND I THINK IN COUNCILLOR COCHRANE MADE A GREAT POINT AT OUR LAST MEETING AROUND THE MAYOR'S TASK FORCE ON DEV.

I THINK THERE'S A CHANCE TO REGROUP THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE 2023, HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND SORT OF GET OUR FINGERS BACK ON THE PULSE BEFORE WE GO OUT AND START A NEW STRATEGY.

AND THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEN SIMILAR TO THE ARTS AND CULTURE MASTER PLAN, WHICH A FEW OF YOU HAVE BROUGHT UP ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN BE THINGS THAT GO ON THE NEXT COUNCIL'S WORK PLAN.

SIMILAR TO THE COUNCIL ADMIN PROTOCOL. I'D ALSO RECOMMEND, IF COLLEAGUES ARE IN AGREEMENT, IS THAT WE MOVE THAT DOWN TO THE GARDEN PLOT TWO.

I JUST IT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT MADE SENSE WHEN WE STARTED, BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT WE'VE GOT A YEAR, AND A HALF LEFT. AND AS COUNCILLOR COCHRANE WAS JUST SAYING, IN TERMS OF PUTTING OUR FOCUS WHERE IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE IS, IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO SPEND OUR TIME ON IF UNLESS WE HAVE THE TIME.

MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET, YOU KNOW, STARTED NEAR THE END OF OUR TERM, BUT THAT THE NEXT COUNCIL CAN DO.

ANOTHER THOUGHT THAT I HAVE IS COMBINING THE REVIEW OF REGULATORY DELEGATIONS FROM GSA TO CITY AND DEVELOP ACTION ITEMS WITH THE CITY CHARTER PIECE, BECAUSE THE FIRST THING THAT I MENTIONED THERE SORT OF IS DEPENDENT ON THE CITY CHARTER NOT HAPPENING.

SO IF WE JUST BLEND THOSE THINGS TOGETHER, THEN IT'S SORT OF EITHER ONE HAPPENS, AND IF NOT, THEN WE DO THE OTHER JUST FOR CLARITY IN THE WORK PLAN.

AND I THINK THAT'S OVER. THAT'S EVERYTHING NOW.

SO THAT'S I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT IF COLLEAGUES DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING, NOW'S YOUR SORT OF CHANCE.

OTHERWISE, WE CAN ALWAYS DEAL WITH STUFF AGAIN AT COUNCIL MEETING, TOO.

IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES. YEAH. SO, I'M DONE. OVER.

COUNCILLOR MCGURK? I'M IN GENERAL SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT FELLOW COUNCILORS HAVE SAID.

I THINK ONE THING THAT I MAYBE ONE THING THAT I KIND OF DISAGREE WITH AND WOULD ACTUALLY, WOULD LIKE SORT OF ADMINISTRATION'S REFLECTION

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I IMAGINE IT WOULD TAKE A MINUTE TO CONSIDER IS THE COUNCIL ADMINISTRATION PROTOCOL.

I JUST THINK THAT WE'VE, YOU KNOW, IN, IN OUR TIME DEVELOPED RELATIONSHIP WITH SENIOR LEADERSHIP TEAM AND HAVE GROWN A LOT AND I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR EVERYONE, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S A DECENT RELATIONSHIP, BUT NEXT TERM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE LIKE, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE ELECTED AND IN OUR SEAT.

SO I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY BE PRUDENT TO PLAN A LITTLE BIT SO THAT THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION REMAIN OPEN AND EFFECTIVE, BUT I THINK THAT THAT IS A PERSPECTIVE THAT I HAVE AS A AS ON THE GOVERNANCE SIDE.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION THINKS OF THAT.

HOPEFULLY A FAIRLY HONEST RESPONSE TO THAT. VERY FAIR POINTS, MR. VAN DINE. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THAT.

I BELIEVE IT HAD ITS PURPOSE IN THE MOMENT IN TIME THAT IT WAS REQUESTED OR THOUGHT ABOUT.

A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CHANGE HAD BEEN HAPPENING BETWEEN ADMINISTRATION AND, AND COUNCIL WITH THE VARIOUS FOLKS THAT OCCUPIED THE ROLE THAT I'VE, I'VE BEEN PLAYING, INCLUDING THE MANY ACTORS IN BETWEEN AS, AS MY TEAM WAS WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO ARRIVE.

THAT DOES CAUSE QUITE A BIT OF DISRUPTION. THERE IS NO RELATIONSHIP MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE ONE BETWEEN SENIOR ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL ITSELF.

AND IF THAT'S BUMPY, THEN IT CREATES ALL KINDS OF BUMPS FOR OPERATIONALLY AND FOR EVERYONE.

SO, I'M PLEASED TO HEAR THE SENTIMENT THAT'S BEEN EXPRESSED ABOUT THINGS IMPROVING.

AND IT'S CERTAINLY BEEN MY FOCUS AND PERSONAL ENERGY TO TRY AND IDENTIFY IRRITANT SPOTS AND DEAL WITH THEM AS, AS THEY'VE COME. AND I BELIEVE WITH THE FOCUS ON THE WORK PLAN AND THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT'S BEING PROPOSED AND THE, THE CONTINUED PATH THAT WE'RE ON, I BELIEVE INSERTING THAT PIECE OF WORK AT THIS JUNCTURE, I THINK WOULD BE A BIT MISTIMED FOR WHERE WE ARE IN OUR, IN OUR JOURNEY.

I DO BELIEVE IT'S A VERY PRUDENT RECOMMENDATION TO PUT INTO PREPARATIONS FOR ORIENTATION TO A NEW COUNCIL.

AND I BELIEVE HOPEFULLY MANY OF YOU WILL BE RETURNING IN YOUR ROLES AND THROUGH THROUGH THE THROUGH AN ELECTION PROCESS.

BUT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE NEW PEOPLE AND THAT'S A GOOD THING.

AND SO HAVING THAT CONVERSATION EARLY IN A, IN A NEW MANDATE, I THINK IS A HEALTHY ONE.

AND I BELIEVE A CONVERSATION AROUND COUNCIL ADMINISTRATION PROTOCOL, I THINK, IS ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE AT THAT STAGE.

THANKS, I APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH. AND MAYBE, MAYBE IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO LOOK AT IT AS A COUNCIL DRIVEN INITIATIVE OR SOME SORT OF WE CAN WE CAN DISCUSS WHAT WE'VE LEARNED, AND IT CAN BE A RESOURCE FOR THE FUTURE.

YEAH. NO THANKS FOR THAT. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

I'D BE HAPPY TO WORK ON IT WITH YOU. OVER THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF, MAYBE WE CAN LAY SOME GROUNDWORK SO THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN IF IT DOESN'T GET FINISHED IN OUR TERM, IT'S THE GROUNDWORK FOR THE NEXT ONE. SO, YEAH. NO GOOD. GOOD POINTS. THANKS FOR THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE TO IN-CAMERA ITEMS? NO. OKAY WITH THAT? THEN THE WORK PLAN WILL COME FORWARD TO OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

AND LIKE I SAID, ADMIN WILL, WHEN THEY BRING IT FORWARD, WILL SHOW THOSE CHANGES THAT WE'VE COMMENTED ON, QUESTIONED ON BASED ON THAT. SO, I'VE ALREADY CAPTURED A BUNCH OF THEM FOR ADMIN BEFORE OUR MEETING TODAY, BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE REST OF THEM THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP TODAY GET CAPTURED AS WELL.

SO, WITH THAT NEXT WE HAVE OUR TWO IN-CAMERA ITEMS, A LAND MATTER AND A LEGAL MATTER.

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AND SO WE'LL GO IN CAMERA. SO, WITH THAT COMING OUT OF IN-CAMERA AND THERE'S NO BUSINESS ARISING FROM IN-CAMERA.

SO, WITH THAT, WE'VE COME TO THE END OF OUR AGENDA. CAN I GET A MOTION TO END THE MEETING TO ADJOURN? COUNCILLOR COCHRANE. AND EVERYBODY HAVE A LOVELY AFTERNOON.

BYE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.