[1. Councillor McGurk will read the Opening Statement.] [00:00:05] OKAY, I WILL CALL OUR COUNCIL MEETING FOR MONDAY, FEBRUARY 10TH, 2025 TO ORDER AND I'LL ASK COUNCILLOR PAYNE TO PLEASE READ THE OPENING STATEMENT. FOR THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE ACKNOWLEDGES THAT WE ARE LOCATED IN CHIEF DRYGEESE TERRITORY. FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL, IT HAS BEEN A TRADITIONAL LAND OF THE YELLOWKNIVES DENE FIRST NATION. WE RESPECT THE HISTORIES, LANGUAGES AND CULTURES OF ALL OTHER INDIGENOUS PEOPLES, INCLUDING NORTH SLAVE METIS AND ALL FIRST NATIONS, METIS AND INUIT WHOSE PRESENCE CONTINUE TO ENRICH OUR VIBRANT COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THERE WERE NO AWARDS CEREMONIES OR PRESENTATIONS FOR THE AGENDA. WE HAVE MINUTES OF COUNCIL FOR THE REGULAR MEETING OF MONDAY, JANUARY 27TH, 2025. [Items 3 & 4] COUNCILLOR PAYNE? I MOVE THAT MINUTES OF COUNCIL FOR THE REGULAR MEETING OF MONDAY, JANUARY 27TH, 2025 BE PRESENTED FOR ADOPTION. THANK YOU. SECONDER. DEPUTY MAYOR. COCHRANE. ANY ERRORS OR OMISSIONS? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT, WE HAVE DISCLOSURE OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN THE GENERAL NATURE THEREOF. DOES ANY MEMBER HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN ANY MATTER BEFORE COUNCIL TODAY? COUNCILLOR? NO, WE ALREADY DID THE CAB FUNDING. SEEING NONE. NEXT CORRESPONDENCE AND PETITIONS. THERE WAS NO CORRESPONDENCE, NOR WERE THERE ANY PETITIONS FOR THE AGENDA. THERE WERE NO STATUTORY PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE AGENDA. WE DO HAVE ONE DELEGATION PERTAINING TO AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA. [8. A presentation from Milan Mrdjenovich regarding the proposed Community Plan Amendments. ] WE HAVE MILAN MARJANOVIC, WHO WILL COME UP REGARDING THE PROPOSAL FOR THE COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENTS. SO, MILAN, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME ON UP TO THE MIC. IN A NUTSHELL, BE RESPECTFUL. YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES IF YOU NEED LONGER BY MOTION, WE'LL DO AN EXTRA TWO MINUTES. AT THE END, WE'LL DO Q&A WITH COUNCIL AND THEN THAT'S IT. THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. SO IF YOU JUST WANT TO PUSH THE LITTLE TALKING HEAD. GOOD EVENING. A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THIS LAND. WE PURCHASED IT ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO. WE'VE BEEN TRYING FOR 15 YEARS TO KIND OF GET TO THIS POINT. SO I WANT TO THANK REBECCA FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY HERE TO SPEAK. WE HAVE MANY DIFFERENT PROPOSALS FOR THIS LOT. AS YOU CAN SEE UP ABOVE, THIS, JUST STRAIGHT UP APARTMENT BUILDINGS. I'M JUST GOING TO FLIP THROUGH THESE THE DIFFERENT IDEAS WE'VE HAD OVER THE YEARS. JUST POINT AND SHOOT. THAT'S A RESIDENTIAL LOTS. MORE WHAT YOU SEE DOWN SOUTH IN EDMONTON. 33, 34 FOOT. ACROSS STANDARD IN DOWN SOUTH. THAT'S 362 LOTS THERE. ONCE UPON A TIME WITH ANOTHER PLANNING OFFICE THEY WANTED TO SEE SOME COMMERCIAL BAYS. SO WE GAVE A PROPOSAL FOR SOME COMMERCIAL BAYS WITH AN APARTMENT BUILDING. THE APARTMENT BUILDING BASICALLY IS RUNNING THE ALONG WHERE THE SUBDIVISION ABOVE IS. I GUESS WE'RE DOWN BELOW WHERE YOU'D SEE NOVA GROUP OF COMPANIES. THAT'D BE WHERE RON'S AUTO IS TO GET TO. AND YOU CAN SEE IT SAYS CAM LAKE ROAD ON THE BOTTOM. THAT WAS ANOTHER PROPOSAL. DIDN'T MAKE IT VERY FAR. THAT IS ANOTHER PROPOSAL JUST FOR THE APARTMENT BUILDING STANDING. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE SCALE OF IT. OF IT. AND THAT'S 140 UNITS THERE. FOR STORY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. NOW, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT I'D BE LEANING TOWARDS. SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITH THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT SIDE WOULD BE MORE LIKE EIGHT PLEXES, 12 PLEXES YOU KNOW, ROWHOUSE UNITS, THAT SORT OF THING THERE. FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS AREA. I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE MAYBE LIKE COFFEE SHOPS AND MAYBE A TIM HORTONS OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES DOWN THAT WAY. BUT YOU CAN KIND OF GET THE SCALE OF 140 UNITS. NOW I'M BUILDING A BUILDING YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH UP IN HAGEL DRIVE. THAT'S THE EQUIVALENT OF ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS THAT'S JUST TO KIND OF PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE FOR SIZE WISE. THAT'S ANOTHER VIEW OF IT. THEY'RE QUITE LARGE. THEY'RE NICE UNITS. AGAIN, THIS PROPOSAL WAS MANY, MANY MOONS AGO. [00:05:05] IT DIDN'T MAKE IT VERY FAR EITHER. STANDARD TWO BEDROOM, ONE BEDROOM LAYOUTS. NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I'M DOING NOW. SORRY. SKIP THROUGH THIS. AM I AT THE END? OKAY. I'LL JUST GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO THIS ONE. THIS IS THE ONE WE'RE KIND OF LEANING TOWARDS. THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD PROPOSE HERE IS FOR EVERYONE DOWN SOUTH IS NOW LEANING TOWARDS FIVE AND SIX STORY BUILDINGS. JUST THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS THERE WOULD, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE LIKE TO SEE THEM A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. LIKE I SAID, WE'VE HAD TEN DIFFERENT PROPOSALS OVER 15 YEARS WITH THREE DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS. SO WITH PLANNING ADMINISTRATIONS AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 300 UNITS THAT'S ANYWHERE BETWEEN 6 TO 700 HEADS IN BEDS. A PROJECT LIKE THIS, IT'S A TEN YEAR PROJECT FROM START TO FINISH. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 4 TO 6 YEARS JUST FOR PLANNING ZONING APPROVALS BEFORE IT'S EVEN SHOVEL READY. YOU'RE LOOKING AT TWO YEARS FOR WATER, SEWER, CONCRETE, PAVEMENT, LIGHTS, HYDRANTS, LIFT STATIONS. AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT A 3 TO 6 YEAR BUILD OUT. SO THIS IS NOT HAPPENING NEXT YEAR. IT'S NOT HAPPENING THE YEAR AFTER THAT. IT IS PROBABLY HAPPENING IN, YOU KNOW, FOUR TO 4 TO 6 YEARS BEFORE WE CAN EVEN GET IT IN THE GROUND, LET ALONE DO ANYTHING ELSE. SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 300 UNITS. IT, YOU KNOW, IN A 3 TO 5 YEAR SPAN, A LITTLE BIT LEERY ON THE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FLOODING THE MARKET, BUT IT'S NEEDED THAT CBC LAND IS THE LAST BLANK CANVAS IN YELLOWKNIFE. IT'S SQUARED. BEDROCK IS ABOUT TEN FEET UNDER THE GROUND. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF ROCK OUTCROPS TO THE TOP OF THE DRAWING THERE, BUT VERY MINIMAL FOR BLASTING. IT'S PERFECT FOR WATER, SEWER IN THE TOP. JUST PAUSE ONE SECOND. MOTION TO EXTEND. COUNCILLOR ARDEN-SMITH COUNCILLOR PAYNE. ANYBODY OPPOSED SEEING? NONE. YOU GOT TWO MORE MINUTES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IN THE TOP RIGHT HAND CORNER. THIS THIS LOT FOR SERVICING WILL NEED A LIFT STATION. THAT WOULD BE AT SPENCE AND BEGGING. AND THE COST FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR 300 UNITS, WE'RE LOOKING AT ANYWHERE BETWEEN 85 TO $100 MILLION OF PRIVATE EQUITY MONEY. I PULLED OUT A TAX BILL TODAY JUST JUNE. AND OUR TAX BILL ON THAT LAND IS 13,371 PER MONTH. MY MORTGAGE ON THIS LOT IS 10,550 PER MONTH RIGHT NOW, EVERY MONTH. I'M OPEN TO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER. COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN. THANKS, MAYOR ALTY. AND THANKS FOR COMING, MR. BUSH. I MEAN, I WAS PROBABLY THE ONE WHO, YOU KNOW, ASKED YOU TO COME SO I COULD ASK SOME QUESTIONS. SO, SURE, SOME COLLEAGUES HAVE QUESTIONS TOO. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE SOME CONTEXT IN THE BRAIN, AND YOU'VE ALREADY ANSWERED ONE OF MY QUESTIONS OF HOW LONG YOU'VE HAD THE PROPERTY. I GUESS SOMETHING THAT REALLY JUMPED OUT TO ME IN YOUR PRESENTATION THERE IS TALKING ABOUT MULTIPLE PROPOSALS. SO, I GUESS MY BIG QUESTION IS WHEN YOU SAY YOU'VE HAD MULTIPLE PROPOSALS, DO YOU MEAN THAT YOU'VE HAD THESE PROPOSALS AND HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH CITY ADMIN, OR THESE ARE JUST PROPOSALS THAT YOU'VE HAD? BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING SO FAR OF THIS WHOLE PROCESS HAS BEEN THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN A COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT COME THROUGH THAT WHICH I KNOW THAT HASN'T HAPPENED YET. BUT THAT THERE HAVEN'T BEEN PROPOSALS PUT FORWARD, PROPOSALS PUT FORWARD. SO, I'D LIKE SOME CLARITY FROM YOU ON THAT. I'LL HAVE THE SIMILAR QUESTION TO ADMIN LATER, BUT THAT'S AT A LATER TIME. YEAH. WE'VE HAD TEN DIFFERENT PROPOSALS OFFERED THROUGH JEFF HUMMEL, ROB LOCK, CHELSEA. WE TRIED TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS FOR, FOR 15 YEARS. AND LIKE I SAID, I'M THANKFUL FOR REBECCA TO GIVE US THIS OPPORTUNITY. THANKS FOR THAT. I GUESS IT'S A SORT OF A FOLLOW UP, ALTHOUGH I'M SURE I UNDERSTAND THE ANSWER NOW FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE. SO WHY HAVEN'T YOU APPLIED FOR THIS COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT YOURSELF, AS OPPOSED TO WAITING FOR IT TO COME THROUGH A COUNCIL MOTION? [00:10:02] THERE WAS ALWAYS A PUSH. IT WAS ALWAYS NOT. OUR VISION WAS NEVER ALIGNED WITH WHOEVER WAS IN PLANNING AT THAT MOMENT. JEFF HUMMEL WANTED LIKE, COMMERCIAL. ROB LOCKE WANTED INDUSTRIAL. YOU KNOW, IT JUST EVENTUALLY YOU JUST STOP TRYING. FAIR ENOUGH. SO JUST FOR CLARITY, BECAUSE, LIKE, THE APPLICATION PROCESS, ULTIMATELY A MIN CAN PROVIDE THEIR OPINION, BUT IT'S UP TO COUNCIL TO MAKE THE DECISION. BUT JUST FOR CLARITY AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT BASICALLY, YOU DIDN'T FEEL IT WAS WORTH YOUR INVESTMENT TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS TO PAY FOR THE APPLICATION FEE, GO THROUGH ALL THE WORK. IF YOU DIDN'T FEEL LIKE YOU'D HAVE AN ADMIN SUPPORTING SOMETHING TO COUNCIL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'VE GOT YOUR PERSPECTIVE, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. THANKS FOR THAT. I GUESS MY LAST QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT THE PLANS. IT'S NICE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'VE ALREADY ANSWERED A BUNCH OF THE QUESTIONS ABOUT SORT OF THE SCOPING OF THE LONG TERM FRAME OF THIS. SO THAT'S HELPFUL. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT, I MEAN, ARE YOU COMMITTED TO SORT OF THAT LONG TERM GAME BECAUSE IT IS THE RISK THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THE MOTIONS COMING FROM THE MAYOR. COUNCIL SUPPORTS THE MOTION. WE AMEND THE COMMUNITY PLAN. AND YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT AT THAT POINT TO NOT DO ANYTHING. IT'S YOUR LAND. AND SO THAT'S YOU KNOW, I'M NOT I'M NOT SAYING YOU IT'S ABSOLUTELY YOUR ABILITY TO DO NOTHING WITH IT. I GUESS MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT WE DO THIS. WE BROKE THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE AS A CITY, A PROCESS THAT EVERY OTHER RESIDENT HAS TO GO THROUGH, AND PROPERTY OWNER AND THE CITY HAS TO GO THROUGH. AND SO, WHILE I APPRECIATE, AND THIS IS HELPFUL IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING WHERE YOU'RE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. I GUESS I WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME ASSURANCE TO THE EXTENT THAT I CAN, LEAVING THIS ROOM TONIGHT, THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS, THEN THE NEXT REGULATORY STEPS TOWARDS SOME ACTION WILL HAPPEN. MOST DEFINITELY. THIS IS THIS IS AN EXPENSIVE PIECE OF LAND. LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE JUST OUR TAXES AND OUR MORTGAGES EVERY MONTH. IT'S WE WANT TO PUT THIS LAND TO WORK. THAT'S WHAT WE DO. WE'RE DEVELOPERS. WE PUT WE PUT BUILDINGS UP AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF LAND. LIKE, IT'S LIKE THE LAST BLANK, BLANK PIECE OF LAND IN YELLOWKNIFE. PERFECT. NO, THANK YOU FOR, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THE ADDITIONAL CONTEXT. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU CAME TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS, AND IT'S HELPFUL FOR ME. THANKS. COUNCILLOR WARBURTON. DID I SEE YOU FOR QUESTIONS? OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THOUGH? FOR THE PRESENTER? YEAH, YEAH. I WAS LIKE, YOU'RE MY LAST ONE. THANKS A LOT FOR COMING, I APPRECIATE IT. I JUST WANT TO GET YOUR KIND OF FEEL LIKE WHEN YOU'RE INVESTING WHEN COMPARED TO OTHER PLACES YOU'VE WORKED AND BUILT STUFF. ARE WE ATTRACTIVE TO INVESTMENT IN A WAY THAT YOU SEE IN OTHER PLACES? YES AND NO. IT'S, I'M NOT GOING TO LIE. IT'S VERY, VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO BUILD IN YELLOWKNIFE. I LOVE IT HERE. I WOULDN'T BE HERE OTHERWISE. YOU KNOW, THE WORLD'S A BIG PLACE. WE ARE NOW TURNING OUR ATTENTION FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH. JUST BASICALLY, THERE'S NO MORE LAND AVAILABLE HERE, AND THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY DOWN SOUTH RIGHT NOW. BUT. YEAH. NO, IT'S I LIKE YELLOWKNIFE. I'VE ALWAYS LIKED YELLOWKNIFE. I'M BORN IN YELLOWKNIFE. MY FATHER STARTED HIS COMPANY UP HERE. THIS IS WHERE WE KNOW HOW TO BUILD THE BEST. AND I'LL ALWAYS BE HERE. I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE. IT'S JUST RIGHT NOW. THERE'S NOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD. AWESOME. THANKS, AND I APPRECIATE IT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. ANY FURTHER FOR THE COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT? OKAY. NEXT THERE WERE THERE WERE NO STATEMENTS FOR THE AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY MEMBER STATEMENTS FROM THE FLOOR? WE HAVE INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS. [Items 11 - 13] WE HAVE THE GOVERNANCE AND PRIORITIES COMMITTEE REPORT FOR JANUARY 27TH, 2025. COUNCILLOR PAYNE. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPOINT THE FOLLOWING AS DEPUTY MAYOR AND COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES TO THE SPECIAL COMMITTEES OF COUNCIL. AND THAT THESE APPOINTMENTS BE REVIEWED IN JANUARY 2026. SO, DEPUTY MAYOR, THE ONE AND ONLY BEN HENDRICKSEN. YEAH. NOT TOM. AUDIT COMMITTEE. RYAN FEQUET BOARD OF REVISION, TOM MCCLELLAN AND BEN HENDRICKSEN COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD ON HOMELESSNESS. WE HAVE GARRETT COCHRANE DEVELOPMENT APPEAL BOARD, ROB WARBURTON AND BEN HENDRICKSEN GRANT REVIEW COMMITTEE. WE HAVE STACIE ARDEN-SMITH AND TOM MCCLELLAN HERITAGE COMMITTEE, MYSELF, STEVE PAYNE HUMAN RESOURCE AND COMPENSATION COMMITTEE. [00:15:08] WE HAVE GARRETT COCHRANE AND RYAN FEQUET AND THE MAYOR'S TASK FORCE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE ROB WARBURTON. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECONDER? COUNCILOR ARDEN-SMITH, ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? COUNCILLOR MCGURK. YOU'RE ALSO IN FAVOR? YES. OKAY. AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. COUNCILLOR PAYNE. I MOVE THAT MAYORS THAT THE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL BE AUTHORIZED TO ATTEND THE FOLLOWING CONFERENCES IN 2025 THAT RELATE DIRECTLY TO CITY BUSINESS. THE FEDERATION OF CANADIAN MUNICIPALITIES, THE FCM ANNUAL CONFERENCE IN OTTAWA, ONTARIO, MAY 20TH 9TH TO JUNE 1ST, 2025 FOR TWO COUNCILORS. THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES ASSOCIATION OF COMMUNITIES ANNUAL AGM. IN RIGHT HERE IN YELLOWKNIFE FEBRUARY 20TH 7TH TO MARCH 1ST, 2025. MAYOR AND EIGHT COUNCILORS AND THE CANADIAN ALLIANCE TO END HOMELESSNESS IN MONTREAL, QUEBEC OCTOBER 28TH TO 30TH, 2025. AND THAT'S FOR ONE COUNCILOR. AND NUMBER TWO, OTHER TRAVEL AUTHORIZATION BE PRIORITIZED BASED ON COUNCIL PRIORITIES AND EMERGING OPPORTUNITIES, AND BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS IN ADVANCE OF EACH CONFERENCE. THANK YOU. SECONDER. COUNCILLOR WARBURTON. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING. NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. GOVERNANCE AND PARTIES. COMMITTEE REPORT FOR FEBRUARY 3RD COUNCILLOR PAYNE. [Items 14 & 15] I MOVE THAT COUNCIL DIRECT ADMINISTRATION TO BRING FORWARD A REVISED COMMUNITY PLAN BYLAW FOR FIRST READING TO COUNCIL ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 24TH, 2025 AT 7 P.M. WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS. ONE UPDATE THE BOUNDARY OF 4.6 WEST RESIDENTIAL TO INCLUDE LOT ONE, BLOCK 553 PLAN 1907, INCLUDING ON PAGE 28, MAP TWO, PAGE 52, MAP NINE AND PAGE 59. MAP 11. NUMBER TWO DELETE ALL WORDING IN SECTION 4.17 SPECIAL MANAGEMENT ZONE AND REPLACE WITH THE SPECIAL MANAGEMENT ZONE AS IDENTIFIED ON THE LAND USE DESIGNATION MAP. MAP TWO IS LAND THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY DESIGNATED FOR A SPECIFIC LAND USE. HOWEVER, THIS LAND MAY BE USED FOR A VARIETY OF USES IN THE FUTURE BASED ON THE NEEDS OF THE CITY AS IT CONTINUES TO GROW AND CHANGE. COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER THE REDESIGNATION OF SPECIAL MANAGEMENT LANDS TO OTHER TO ANOTHER DESIGNATION UNDER THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. THE AMENDMENTS ARE BEING CONSIDERED IN THE CONTEXT OF THE FIVE YEAR REVIEW OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN, OR IF, PRIOR TO THE FIVE YEAR REVIEW, THERE IS AN ACCEPTABLE ASSESSMENT AND JUSTIFICATION OF THE NEED OF THE REDESIGNATION. AND B DEVELOPMENT AREA HAS PROXIMITY TO REQUIRED INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING ROADS AND MUNICIPAL SERVICES. I SHOULD HAVE JUST SAID THAT IT'S INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA ITEM. AND THEN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OBJECTIVES TO ENSURE ORDERLY AND WELL PLANNED FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PERMITTED AND DISCRETIONARY USES ON LAND DESIGNATED SPECIAL MANAGEMENT WILL BE LIMITED AND UNDER POLICIES WE HAVE PERMITTED AND DISCRETIONARY USES WILL BE LIMITED TO. CULTURAL USES, RECREATIONAL USES, AGRICULTURE, TEMPORARY BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES, UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE, MARINAS, NATURAL RESOURCE EXTRACTION ACTIVITIES AND ASSOCIATED USES. AND THREE STRIKE THE FOLLOWING DEFINITION. DEFINITION ON PAGE 106. WORK CAMP TEMPORARY AND MOVABLE STRUCTURES BUILT TO ACCOMMODATE WORKERS FOR A SPECIFIC PROJECT OR JOB. USUALLY, WORK CAMPS ARE LOCATED IN REMOTE AREAS WITH LITTLE ACCESS TO PERMANENT DWELLINGS. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECONDER? COUNCILOR ARDEN-SMITH OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS. COMMENTS. DISCUSSION. COUNCILOR HENDRICKSEN. IT'S THE HOT SEAT TONIGHT. THANKS. MAYOR ALTY. SO, I GUESS I'LL START OUT OF THE GATE. SO, FOR ADMIN, THE PRESENTER EARLIER TALKED ABOUT MANY PROPOSALS THAT THEY SAY THEY HAD SHARED WITH ADMIN. SO, I'D LIKE TO GIVE ADMIN THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL CONTEXT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON ANY DISCUSSIONS RELATED TO ANY PROPOSALS. I APPRECIATE YOU CAN ONLY SPEAK TO ANYTHING SINCE YOUR TIME. I WON'T ASK YOU TO SPEAK ABOUT THINGS THAT HAPPENED BEFORE YOU WERE HERE. BUT I'D LIKE TO ASK ADMIN FOR YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THAT. THANKS. THANK YOU, MR. VAN DINE. SO, [00:20:24] YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR. SO IT IS A BIT OF A CHALLENGE TO DEAL WITH THE GHOSTS OF CHRISTMAS PAST WITH RESPECT TO VARIOUS APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN THOUGHT ABOUT AND BROUGHT FORWARD. AND SO WITH THAT, AS A BIT OF A CAVEAT I WOULD MAKE A COUPLE OF OBSERVATIONS. I BELIEVE THAT CERTAINLY THAT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY IN THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE IS AN IMPORTANT COMMUNITY THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IS SUPPORTED AND IS ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY DO BEST, AND THAT IS PROVIDE HOUSING HOPEFULLY AT AN AFFORDABLE PRICE AS WELL AS OTHER BUILDING DEVELOPMENTS TO ALLOW YELLOWKNIFE TO GROW IN A SUSTAINABLE WAY. AND THAT DOES REQUIRE COURAGE, INVESTMENT AND A LITTLE BIT OF RISK TO BE UNDERTAKEN BY WHAT IS A RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH THAT THE PROPOSAL THAT SEEMS TO BE DISCUSSED TONIGHT WITH RESPECT TO THE AMENDMENT TO THE COMMUNITY PLAN SPEAKS TO A COUPLE OF THINGS, AND I'LL JUST PROVIDE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS WITH RESPECT TO THAT. I BELIEVE, AS WAS DISCUSSED AT GPC AROUND THIS MATTER, THAT IN THE INSTIGATION FOR THIS MOTION COMES FROM A PLACE WHERE COUNCIL IS DIALING IN TO A PUBLIC NEED AND INTEREST TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ON A, ON A BASIS THAT MEETS AN EXPECTED NEED AND, AND A BELIEF THAT WE HAVE IN SUFFICIENT QUANTITIES. THAT BEING SAID THE PROPOSAL THAT IS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD TODAY DOES TAKE AN INNOVATIVE STEP TOWARDS OFFERING A PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL THE BENEFIT OF AN AMENDMENT FOR A PROPOSAL THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN RECEIVED FORMALLY THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL PROCESS. SO, THERE IS SOME INTERESTING RISKS THAT COUNCIL IS CREATING WITH RESPECT TO THIS APPROACH. IS COUNCIL LOOKING TO SEND A SIGNAL THAT IT'S OPEN FOR BUSINESS AND IT'S LOOKING TO ATTRACT INVESTMENT. AND BY THIS MOTION ALLOWING SUCH A SIGNAL TO BE SENT. THAT IS FOR COUNCIL TO COME TO THAT CONCLUSION AND, AND MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. WITH RESPECT TO THE POTENTIAL IMPLICATIONS THIS MAY HAVE DOWNSTREAM THIS DOES NOT REPRESENT AN APPROVAL OF ANY PROPOSAL COMING THAT MAY COME FORWARD DOWNSTREAM, THAT IS STILL SUBJECT TO THE APPLICATION PROCESS THAT MAY COME FORWARD. SO THAT IS A POINT THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE JUST TO JUST TO BE CLEAR THE PRESENTATION THAT WE DID RECEIVE THIS EVENING, I THINK WAS VERY HELPFUL TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THERE IS A COMMUNITY OUT THERE WILLING TO INVEST AND MAKE OUR MAKE OUR CITY GROW. AND THAT IS APPRECIATED. THE TIMELINES THAT THEY SUGGESTED RAISE A QUESTION AS TO WHY NOW? WHY THIS WAY. AND THAT'S FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AS THEY'RE DELIBERATING OVER THE MOTION AND WHETHER THAT COULD BE SATISFIED IN ANOTHER WAY, THROUGH A PROCESS THAT WAS SET FORWARD BY ADMINISTRATION WITH RESPECT TO THE BROAD COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATE PROCESS THAT WAS PRESENTED AT THE SAME GPC. THE OTHER POINT THAT I BELIEVE IS IMPORTANT TO ADD WITH RESPECT TO THE PARTICULAR MOTION IS THE BENEFIT THAT IS BEING PERCEIVED BY AND THAT'S FOR COUNCIL TO DECIDE. SO WITH THE COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS, WE WILL GET THE GET THE AMENDMENT PROCESS. BUT IN THE ABSENCE OF A DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION, THIS DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WHAT COUNCIL BELIEVES THEY'RE BUYING WITH RESPECT TO THIS AMENDMENT MAY RESULT IN THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS DESCRIBED THIS EVENING AS REQUIRING ANY MORE ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENTS. THERE COULD VERY WELL BE ADDITIONAL TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS. I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT DOES. I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN APPLICATION. AND SO, COUNCIL MAY END THE PUBLIC AND POTENTIALLY THE PRESENTER TONIGHT COULD WALK AWAY WITH NOT NECESSARILY A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT AMENDMENT PROCESS, SHOULD IT BE APPROVED BY THE MINISTER OF MUNICIPAL COMMUNITY AFFAIRS [00:25:04] DOWNSTREAM MAY REQUIRE FURTHER TECHNICAL ADJUSTMENTS. SO, WITH THAT SAID, MADAM CHAIR I WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE TEAM FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE COMMENTS WITH RESPECT TO THE MOTION THIS EVENING, AND WE'LL JUST CHECK TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER. NO, I SEE NONE. I SEE. OKAY. I WILL MAYBE INVITE DIRECTOR WHITE TO ADD FURTHER CONTEXT. THANK YOU. THERE WE GO. HELLO. JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SO MYSELF MILAN AND MIKE WHO ARE THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY, HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE PROPERTY POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY OF THOSE SINCE I HAVE BEEN HERE? NO, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENTS TO DATE. WE IDENTIFIED THE PROCESS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, AS CITY MANAGER HAS OUTLINED AND AS HAS THE PROPERTY OWNER. I MEAN, IT IS A LENGTHY PROCESS. SO WE'VE OUTLINED WHAT IS REQUIRED. WE'VE ALSO IDENTIFIED SOME AREAS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AS PART OF THAT APPLICATION, SPECIFICALLY SERVICING AN INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THAT'S REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S HOUSING, COMMERCIAL, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. SO JUST INFRASTRUCTURE IN GENERAL NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT. AND SO WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT. AND YEAH, THAT'S REALLY JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. THANK YOU. THANKS TO BOTH OF YOU. I GUESS FOLLOWING FROM THAT AND I'M NOT REALLY EXPECTING AN ANSWER TO THIS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY GIVEN YOU DIRECTION YET, BUT I ASKED IT LAST WEEK, SO I'LL ASK IT AGAIN. DOES ADMIN HAVE ANY FURTHER INSIGHT AT THIS TIME AS TO ANY EXPECTED IMPACTS OF AMENDING THE COMMUNITY PLAN TO CHANGE THE SPECIAL MANAGEMENT ZONE WORDING, OR TO REMOVE THE DEFINITION OF WORK CAMPS. MR. VAN DINE. WE HAVE NO FURTHER INSIGHTS FROM WHAT WE SHARED AT GPC THE PREVIOUS WEEK. THANK YOU. AND THIS 1ST MAY BE FOR YOU, FOR THE FOR THE MAYOR OR FOR ADMIN. BUT FROM MY READING OF THE ZONING BYLAW, THE SPECIAL MANAGEMENT ZONE THAT'S REFERENCED IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN ISN'T REFERENCED IN THE ZONING BYLAW. SO I GUESS I'M JUST REALLY TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THIS AND MAKE SURE I GET ALL THE IMPACT. IS IT AS SIMPLE AS IF WE CHANGE THE WORDING OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN TO REMOVE ANY POLICY RESTRICTIONS THERE, THEN THE ZONING BYLAW, IT JUST ALLOWS FOR THE BROADER DEVELOPMENT AS PERMITTED UNDER THAT, IS THAT THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE. IS THAT CORRECT OR IS THAT WRONG? YEAH. IT'S TO REMOVE ALL THE DETAILED RESTRICTIONS IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN TO HAVE THAT BROADER LIKE WE HAD IN THE GENERAL PLAN. AND THEN OF COURSE, ALL OF THE IN THE ZONING BYLAW, SECTION 14, ALL THOSE SPECIAL MANAGEMENT USE ZONES CONTINUE. AND I GUESS ANOTHER ONE MAYBE FOR AGAIN, ADMIN AND OR THE MAYOR. BUT I GUESS SO THE COMMUNITY PLAN WAS PASSED IN PASSED IN 2020 WHEN THE ZONING BYLAW CAME IN. IF THAT WAS COUNCIL'S WILL AT THAT TIME, WHY WASN'T THE COMMUNITY PLAN THEN UPDATED TO REFLECT THAT WILL TO MEET THE ZONING PLAN? I CAN SEE I CAN SEE THE DIRECTOR. SO I WANT THE DIRECTOR TO CHIME IN HERE A BIT. SO BUT THE COMMUNITY PLAN OR THE ZONING BYLAW THEN WAS AMENDED FIRST COMMUNITY PLAN AFTER. IN EITHER CASE, I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS IF THE INTENTION WAS THAT THE COMMUNITY PLAN WOULDN'T RESTRICT THESE THINGS IN THE SPECIAL MANAGEMENT ZONE, WHY WOULD IT? MEN HAVE PROPOSED THEM AND WHY DID COUNCIL APPROVE THEM? AND I GUESS FOR ME, IT BECOMES A WITHOUT THAT ANALYSIS COMING BACK TO ME, I DON'T REALLY FEEL COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD AT THIS TIME ON THOSE TO ON THAT PIECE BECAUSE I KIND OF GO, WELL, AM I MISSING SOMETHING THAT THE OTHER COUNCIL HAD ACCESS TO AND WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT I HAVEN'T CONTEMPLATED YET? YEAH, NO. AND I DID TOUCH OR I'M GOING TO TOUCH ON IT IN MY SPEAKING NOTES IS THAT YES. COUNCIL APPROVED THE COMMUNITY PLAN, AND THEN WE APPROVED THE ZONING BYLAW. AND THEN ONCE WE'RE BOTH APPROVED, THEN PEOPLE STARTED APPLYING WITH THE TO GET A DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. AND THAT'S WHEN WE SAW LIKE OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I FEEL LIKE THAT THE WORDS IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN WERE RESTRICTING WHAT WE WANTED IN THE ZONING BYLAW. SO COUNCIL APPROVED A DISCRETIONARY USE AT A PROPERTY IN THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT. I'M NOW MIXING ALL OF THE TERMS UP BETWEEN GENERAL PLAN, SPECIAL MANAGEMENT AREA TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO AND STILL IS STRUGGLING TO GET A DEVELOPMENT PERMIT BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONS IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN. SO THAT'S WHERE I WAS LOOKING TO SCALE BACK THE COMMUNITY PLAN, POLICIES, OBJECTIVES, ALL THAT WORDING TO GO MORE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN. [00:30:04] SO I THINK IT'S WHEN THE RUBBER HITS THE ROAD THAT YOU REALIZE WHAT THE WORDS IN THE PAPER MEAN. THAT WAS AT LEAST HOW I FELT. BUT COULD I HEAR FROM THE DIRECTOR? YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. FOR SURE. MR. VAN DINE, I WILL LET COUNCIL HEAR FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE COMMUNITY PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY A PREVIOUS COUNCIL, AND THE COMMUNITY PLAN IS ALWAYS DONE FIRST, BECAUSE THAT'S YOUR POLICY, YOUR OVERARCHING POLICY DIRECTION OF COUNCIL AND YOUR INTENT. ZONING BYLAW IS REQUIRED BY LEGISLATION TO CONFORM TO THAT PLAN. SO THOSE USES AND USES SHOULD BE REGULATED THROUGH THE ZONING BYLAW, NOT THE POLICY. IS THE DIRECTION. THE USES SPECIFICALLY ARE WHAT YOU FIND IN THAT ZONING BYLAW. SO WHEN THAT CAME IN BEHIND AND I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR, SOME OF THE OVERLAP HAD SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES IF THAT HELPS TO EXPLAIN IT. THANK YOU. SOMEWHAT HELPFUL, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE FROM ALL MY QUESTIONS, MY BRAIN IS STILL NOT FULLY SET ON THESE ISSUES. I GUESS ANOTHER QUESTION FOR MINH. HAS THERE EVER BEEN AN APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY ANY PROPONENT FOR A COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE SPECIAL MANAGEMENT ZONE TO REMOVE THE WORDING PROPOSED? MR. VAN DINE. NOT TO OUR KNOWLEDGE. MADAM CHAIR. PERFECT. AND THEN JUST GENERALLY, I SUPPOSE, CAN IT MEAN, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING WHAT THE DIRECTOR JUST TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE OVERLAPPING PURPOSES? SO NOT SURE IF ADMIN IS SAYING THAT THERE IS AN OVERLAPPING CONFUSION THERE THAT WE NEED TO AMEND THROUGH HERE, OR IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT MORE, THAT THERE'S THE MORE FULSOME CONVERSATION WE NEED AS PART OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN. BUT CAN MINH SPEAK TO YOUR ADVISABILITY OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE TWO PIECES AT THIS TIME, SPECIFICALLY THE SPECIAL MANAGEMENT? SORRY, MR. VAN DINE. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. SO I BELIEVE WE SPOKE TO THIS A LITTLE BIT AT JPC WITH RESPECT TO THE ORIGINAL PRESENTATION THAT WAS PRESENTED BY OUR MANAGER OF PLANNING THAT WAS DESCRIBING THE UPDATES TO THE COMMUNITY PLAN PROCESS. AND I'LL JUST REITERATE SOME OF THE HIGH POINTS FROM THAT. SO ONE OF THE ONE OF THE POINTS FROM THAT DISCUSSION WAS THE FACT THAT CONTEXTS CHANGE, PLANS NEED TO BE UPDATED, AND REVISIONS NEED TO BE MADE FROM TIME TO TIME. AND WHAT WAS PROPOSED AT GPC WITH RESPECT TO THE COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATE PROCESS WAS TO DO THAT TO TAKE A BIT OF A LOOK AT THE PLAN, AND IF WE DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF IT, THEN WE WILL SATISFY AN ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT THAT'S SET OUT IN THE LEGISLATION WITH RESPECT TO UPDATING OUR PLAN EVERY EIGHT YEARS. SO WE'LL BE DOING A LITTLE BIT SOONER. WE'LL BE DOING IT WITH THE INTENT OF TAKING, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE CONTEXT THAT HAS SHIFTED OVER THE LAST LITTLE WHILE. AND BASED ON SOME FEEDBACK AND WHAT WE'VE HEARD AS BEING I WOULD SAY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE COMMUNITY PLAN. ONE OF THOSE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS IS THAT I BELIEVE THAT WE'VE GOT A SUFFICIENT BODY OF EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT THE COMMUNITY PLAN PROVIDES A LEVEL OF RESTRICTION AND OVERSIGHT THAT'S MORE ANALOGOUS TO A ZONING TYPE LEVEL OF RESTRICTION, RATHER THAN A POLICY APPROACH, WHICH IS CREATING, I THINK, SOME OF THESE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT HAVE BEEN REFERENCED TODAY. SO WE'VE GOT TWO LAYERS OF REGULATION ACTUALLY COMPETING WITH ONE ANOTHER IN THE WAY THAT THE CURRENT COMMUNITY PLAN IS, IS, IS STRUCTURED. SO TO YOUR POINT WE BELIEVE THAT THE ISSUE THAT YOU ARE POINTING TO WILL BE CAPTURED IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATE REVIEW THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO COUNCIL. THIS MOVE TODAY WOULD GIVE COUNCIL THE ABILITY TO, TO ACCELERATE THAT PARTICULAR ASPECT OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATE. AND THAT'S A DECISION THAT COUNCIL IS HAS BEFORE IT TODAY. THANK YOU. I'M GETTING INTO THE HOME STRETCH HERE. SO ANOTHER QUESTION FOR ADMIN. IF WE REMOVE OR IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY OR ANY OR ALL OF THESE AMENDMENTS TO THE COMMUNITY PLAN. I GUESS THE CRUX OF IT IS, IS WILL WE, AS THE PROCESS CONTINUES FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT MAY HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE WITH THE ANALYSIS THAT WE HAVEN'T GOT TO DATE, BECAUSE THIS IS COMING FROM COUNCIL AS OPPOSED TO FROM ADMIN OR FROM A FORMAL APPLICATION PROCESS, WOULD THAT ANALYSIS END UP COMING TO US AT A LATER DATE? THROUGH OTHER THROUGH THE REST OF THE REGULATORY PROCESS AS WE ACTUALLY GO THROUGH FIRST READING OF THE BYLAW CHANGES FOR SECOND READING, THIRD READING, NOT THE WAY THAT THIS MOTIONS, BECAUSE THIS MOTION IS DIRECTING ADMINISTRATION TO JUST BRING THE BYLAW FORWARD FOR FIRST READING. MONDAY, FEBRUARY 24TH. IF COUNCIL WANTED TO DIRECT ADMINISTRATION TO DO TO DO ANALYSIS ON THESE THREE AMENDMENTS, [00:35:04] THEN ADMINISTRATION WOULD DO THAT HEAVY LIFT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. MR. VAN DINE. DID YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT? NO, I THINK YOU'VE DESCRIBED IT ACCURATELY. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THAT CLARITY, MAYOR ALTY. AND I GUESS THE LAST ONE LIKE I GUESS FOR THE MAYOR IS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY HAS AT LEAST TOLD, I'VE HEARD FROM THEM CLEARLY OVER THE YEARS AND PROPERTY OWNERS IN TOWN IS THEY WANT CONSISTENCY, CLARITY AND CONFIDENCE IN RULES THAT COME TO THE CITY. AND I GUESS MY CHALLENGE WITH THIS, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, I'VE THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT THIS AND I'M STILL STRUGGLING WITH IT. BUT WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH IS, YOU KNOW, ON ONE HAND. YES. ACTION. GOOD. AND I'M FOR THAT. ON THE OTHER HAND, TO ME, EVEN THOUGH TRYING TO HAVE ACTION, WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING AWAY THOSE CONSISTENT AND THOSE CONSISTENT RULES. AND TO ME, ACTUALLY MAYBE DIGGING AT THE CONFIDENCE THAT PEOPLE HAVE IN THE PROCESS THAT EXISTS. AND SO I GUESS I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU AS YOU IS, YOU'RE THE ONE PROPOSING THESE TO MAYBE GRAPPLE IN MY BRAIN WITH THIS ISSUE, IF YOU COULD. THANKS. PERFECT. BECAUSE I JUST PULLED UP AN EXAMPLE THAT WE DID SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, BUT IT WAS JULY 8TH, 2018. A DEVELOPER CAME FORWARD AND ASKED COUNCIL THEY WANTED TO DO A 12 PLEX, AND THEY WANTED TO GET THE ZONING BYLAW CHANGED TO ALLOW MORE CAR SHARES AS A PARKING OPTION. AND SO THE PRESENTER ASKED, HEY, COUNCIL, WILL YOU DO THIS? AND COUNCIL TURNED AROUND AT THAT MEETING AND SAID, YEP. ADMINISTRATION BRING FORWARD ON JULY 22ND AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING BYLAW. THAT'S THE ZONING VERSUS THE COMMUNITY PLAN. THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. HOWEVER, IT WAS JUST A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL, AND WE MADE AMENDMENTS. SO YEAH, I THINK EVERY TIME WE HAVE TO CONSIDER WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO AND IS IT A ONE TIME, IS IT MAKING THAT FULL SCALE CHANGE? BUT YEAH, APPRECIATE PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS ON IF THEY WANT TO STRAY OR CONTINUE WITH THE CURRENT PROCESS. NO THANKS FOR THAT. I AM NOW DONE. ANY OTHER COUNCILLOR WARBURTON? I GUESS MORE OF A STATEMENT THAN ANY QUESTIONS FOR ADMIN? SO, WE JUST HEARD THERE THAT ESSENTIALLY, THEY DON'T FEEL OR TRUST TO INVEST THEIR MONEY HERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE WANTED OR IT'S A THING WE, WE SUPPORT. YES. INVESTMENT IN BUILDING AND BUSINESSES. IT'S SPREADSHEETS AND NUMBERS, BUT IT'S ALSO DO I TRUST THE PEOPLE I'M WORKING WITH OR MY COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT THAT? AND THAT'S AND WHAT WE'RE HEARING REPEATEDLY FROM BUSINESSES AND FROM DEVELOPERS IS THAT THEY DON'T THEY DON'T FEEL WELCOME HERE AND THEY DON'T FEEL SUPPORTED. SO I FEEL ALL THESE MOTIONS. THEY SAY TO FOLKS THAT ARE IMPACTED THAT WE HEAR YOU AND WE WANT TO SUPPORT WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING. SO, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SPECIAL MANAGEMENT ZONE WHAT UNINTENTIONALLY, I THINK HAPPENED WHEN WE DID THE LAST ZONING BYLAW UPDATE WAS WE ESSENTIALLY JUST PACIFIED THESE PROPERTIES. SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF OWNERS OUT THERE WHO WOULD LOVE TO DO THINGS WITH THEIR PROPERTIES, BUT WE ESSENTIALLY DOWN ZONED THEM, NOT IN REAL TERMS, BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT HAPPENED. SO THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO USE THEM IN THE WAYS THEY WERE BEFORE. SO I DON'T THINK THAT WAS FAIR. THOSE OWNERS WERE VERY VOCAL IN LAST ZONING BYLAW, AND THEY GOT IGNORED. SO THIS IS A WAY, A LITTLE WAY THAT WE CAN MAYBE START GETTING THAT BACK TO WHAT THEY HAD BEFORE. I SUPPORT ALL THREE AMENDMENTS. I THINK THESE AREN'T BIG LIFTS. WE ARE JUST TWEAKING A BYLAW TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO JUST INVEST IN OUR CITY. I DON'T SEE WHY THAT'S HARD. THANKS. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS, STATEMENTS? I'LL COME TO YOU FOR SECOND ROUND, SO I'LL DO. SO YEAH. FIRST OFF, A BIG THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR CONSIDERING THESE AMENDMENTS. I DO THINK THAT THEY DO TAKE SOME TIME TO, TO WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND. I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING THAT EVERYTHING THAT I SAID LAST WEEK. IF FOLKS ARE INTERESTED, THEY CAN ALWAYS WATCH LAST WEEK'S WEBCAST OR READ THE TRANSCRIPT. IT'S ALSO AVAILABLE ON THE WEBCAST PAGE. BUT I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE KEY REASONS THAT I'M BRINGING THEM FORWARD TODAY. THE FIRST ONE IS ABOUT HOUSING. I KNOW THERE'S LOTS OF CONCERN ABOUT HOW WE HAVE A CURRENT PROCESS WHERE RESIDENTS CAN HIRE CONSULTANTS TO DRAFT A REPORT, PAY A FEE TO THE CITY, AND THEN THE APPLICATION IS REVIEWED BY STAFF WITHIN 120 DAYS AND ONCE DEEMED COMPLETE, GETS SENT TO COUNCIL. AND THEN THAT BEGINS THAT WHOLE PROCESS. AND WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY IS A LITTLE OUTSIDE THE PROCESS, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS THAT ZONING BYLAW THAT WE ALSO DID A CHANGE TO THE PROCESS. SO, I ACKNOWLEDGE IT IS DIFFERENT. I HAD TO THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT WHETHER I SUPPORT BRINGING IT FORWARD LIKE THIS. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK WE CAN CHOOSE TO SIT BACK AND WAIT PATIENTLY FOR PRIVATE LANDOWNERS TO GO THROUGH ALL THE PAPERWORK, PAY THE FEES, AND THEN WE SIT UP AND START PROCESSING IT. OR WE CAN JUMP IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT, HIT THE GAS, AND MAKE THE AMENDMENT TO OPEN UP MORE LAND FOR HOUSING. I DO THINK WE NEED TO START REVIEWING EACH STEP IN OUR PROCESS TO DETERMINE WHETHER CHANGING OUR PROCESS MAKES SENSE. [00:40:05] IF WE WANT TO SEE HOUSING BUILT QUICKER, WE'RE DOING SOME INITIATIVES WITH THE FEDERAL FUNDING TO ACCELERATE HOUSING. BUT I THINK WE CAN DO MORE. AND CHANGING THE BOUNDARY OF THIS LOT FROM CAM LAKE TO WEST RESIDENTIAL IS ONE WAY. AND OF COURSE, AFTER THE COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENTS, THEY HAVE AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR, PROBABLY OF REGULATORY WORK, GETTING AN AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN BYLAW DRAFTED AND REZONED WHICH WOULD MAKE THE DEVELOPER DO THE BENEFIT IS THEY'LL KNOW THE POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW, WHICH WOULD BE THE WEST RESIDENTIAL. SO WHETHER THE IDEA IS BROUGHT FORWARD TODAY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE WEST RESIDENTIAL. THE DEVELOPER WILL HAVE TO SEE, AND WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE IT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT. THEY'LL HAVE TO GET SERVICE AGREEMENTS, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, BUILDING ROADS, WATER, SEWER, OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE AND MORE. SO THE NEXT STEP AFTER THE AMENDMENTS WILL STILL TAKE MANY MONTHS, AND I DON'T SEE STEPS WE CAN TAKE TO ACCELERATE THOSE MUCH, WHICH IS WHY I'M FOCUSED ON ACCELERATING THIS STEP. THIS ALSO PROVIDES AGAIN THAT THAT CERTAINTY ON FOR THE OWNER WHEN DRAFTING THE AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND IN THE REZONING BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHICH POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES THEY NEED TO ADHERE TO WHEN DRAFTING THOSE NEW PLANS AND BYLAW REQUESTS. AND AS WE SAW IN OCTOBER 2024, WHEN THE CONSULTANT PRESENTED THE INTERIM RESULTS OF OUR HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT, BY 2035, WE NEED 1060 HOMES BUILT. AND THESE AREN'T JUST NUMBERS ON A PAGE. I'M SURE COUNCIL MEMBERS SEE ALL THE PEOPLE ON THE FACEBOOK GROUPS LOOKING FOR HOUSING NONSTOP. THE WOMAN WITH TWO KIDS WHO WAS DESPERATELY LOOKING FOR SOMETHING JUST TWO WEEKS AGO SO THAT SHE COULD START HER JOB LAST MONDAY. THERE'S ENDLESS STORIES LIKE THAT. WE'RE ALL GOING HOME TONIGHT TO WARM HOUSES. SO THIS AMENDMENT WON'T BENEFIT ANY OF US BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A HOUSE. WE'RE DOING THIS TONIGHT FOR ALL THE CURRENT RESIDENTS STRUGGLING TO FIND ACCOMMODATIONS AND ALL THE FUTURE RESIDENTS WHO WILL STRUGGLE. AND I KNOW WE HAVE LAND THAT THE CITY IS CURRENTLY WORKING THROUGH THE REGULATORY PROCESS TO BE OPENED UP FOR HOUSING. WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE LAND ON THE MARKET YET. IF WE'RE LUCKY, IT WILL BE THIS SPRING OR SUMMER, BUT BY THEN PEOPLE WILL HAVE MISSED THE BUILDING SEASON. SO THEN THE CONSTRUCTION WON'T HAPPEN, MAYBE 2026 AND MAYBE MOVE IN 2027. SO AGAIN, OUR PROCESS ISN'T QUICK. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT APPROVING THIS TODAY AND HAMMER SWINGING TOMORROW. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GETTING THE PIPELINE FOR LAND FOR HOUSING GOING NOW. SO IT'LL BE READY IN ANOTHER YEAR OR MORE. AND IF RESIDENTS HAVE OTHER IDEAS ON PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS OR REGULATORY CHANGES THAT COULD SPEED UP HOUSING, PLEASE DO REACH OUT. I'D LOVE TO DISCUSS THEM MORE. AND IF THEY SOUND GOOD AND WOULD MAKE A REAL DIFFERENCE IN HOUSING I.E. CAN'T BE JUST TO BUILD 1 OR 2 HOUSES, IT'S GOT TO BE TRANSFORMATIVE. I'D BE HAPPY TO SEE HOW WE CAN ADVANCE IT FOR THE AMENDMENTS IN THE SPECIAL MANAGEMENT AREA. WE HAVE AT LEAST FIVE PRIVATE PROPERTIES IN THOSE AREAS OR IN THAT AREA WHO HAVE BEEN OPERATING LEGALLY IN THIS AREA FOR DECADES. THE WORDING THAT WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN IS RESTRICTIVE AND MAKES IT CHALLENGING TO GET DEVELOPMENT PERMITS THAT ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING BYLAW. AND YES, I WAS ON THE COUNCIL THAT APPROVED THE WORDING IN 2020. HOWEVER, I'D SAY WE DIDN'T REALIZE THE WORDS ON THE PAPER WHEN BEING IN REAL LIFE AND HOW WE DIDN'T UNINTENTIONALLY BLOCK STUFF THAT WE SUPPORTED. FOR EXAMPLE, COUNCIL APPROVED A DISCRETIONARY USE OF THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OUT NEAR GIANT. IT WAS TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT STILL HASN'T BEEN ISSUED BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET A COMMUNITY PLAN COMMITMENT MET. OUR CONSULTANT SAYS QUARRY PLANS AREN'T VALID UNLESS THEY HAVE MARKET INFO. AND OUR MARKET IS TOO SMALL. THE COMPANIES WON'T GIVE THEIR DATA TO COMPETITORS SO PEOPLE CAN'T MEET WITH OUR CONSULTANT IS LOOKING FOR AND THEREFORE THEY CAN'T GET A DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. IT'S EASIER TO BUILD A QUARRY BESIDE A HOME ON BRAIN BOULEVARD THAN IT IS BESIDE GIANT, BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT WORDING IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN. WE DIDN'T INTEND FOR THAT. SO, I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO OUR PREVIOUS WORDING UNTIL WE CAN CONSIDER WHETHER THERE SHOULD BE REVISED WORDING FOR THE SECTION, OR WE KEEP THE PROPOSED WORDING UNTIL WE REVIEW THE COMMUNITY PLAN NEXT. AND TO BE CLEAR, THE NEW WORDING DOESN'T OPEN IT UP TO BE THE WILD WEST. THE FIVE PROPERTY OWNERS STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE ZONING BYLAW BUT ALLOWS THE PERMITTED AND DISCRETIONARY USES LIKE CULTURAL USES, RECREATIONAL USES, AGRICULTURE, TEMPORARY BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES, UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE, MARINAS, NATURAL RESOURCE EXTRACTION ACTIVITIES TO BE PERMITTED MORE EFFECTIVELY, EFFICIENTLY. SORRY. AND THE FINAL AMENDMENT IS MORE OF A PRINCIPLE AMENDMENT. THIS COUNCIL HAS SAID MULTIPLE TIMES THAT THEY'RE NOT OPPOSED TO WORKCAMPS. SO, LET'S OFFICIALLY STRIKE IT FROM THE BYLAW. AGAIN, IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE ALLOWED, BUT IT JUST MEANS THEY'RE NOT PROHIBITED AND IS MORE OF A SIGNAL TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE OPEN TO CONSIDERING THEM. SO AGAIN, I THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DISCUSSION. IF APPROVED, I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THIS DISCUSSION OVER THE COMING MONTHS. WITH THAT COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN. ROUND TWO. YOU KNOW, I THINK I'M STILL CONFUSED ENOUGH IN MY THINKING. NOT IN THE ISSUE, IN MY THINKING AS A RESULT OF THE ISSUE. YEAH. I FEEL CORNERED HERE TONIGHT IN MY THINKING. AND THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PAID FOR. BUT, YOU KNOW, AFTER HAVING A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS THE LAST WEEK, [00:45:04] DOING A LOT OF READING OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN, ZONING BYLAWS TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THEM, STILL CLEARLY NOT FULLY UNDERSTANDING ALL OF THE INTERPLAYS. I THINK THAT'S WHERE BECAUSE OF THAT REALITY AND NOT HAVING THAT ANALYSIS FROM ADMIN BECAUSE OF IT COMING THROUGH THAT NORMAL CHANNEL. YOU KNOW, JUST I'M NOT THERE YET IN MY THINKING. SO I WILL BE A NO, BUT I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A NO TO THE ISSUES NECESSARILY. IT'S MORE THE PROCESS. AND I APPRECIATE WHY THE MAYOR, WHY YOU BROUGHT IT FORWARD. I APPRECIATE YOUR LOGIC THAT YOU'VE JUST GIVEN THERE, BUT BECAUSE I'M STILL NOT FULLY THERE, I THINK A BIT OF DISSENT IS ALWAYS A GOOD, GOOD THING TO SHOW. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE, JUST AS THERE ARE THERE IS DISSENT IN THE COMMUNITY, I THINK IT'S NOT A BAD THING TO NECESSARILY HAVE IT UP HERE IF I'M NOT FULLY THERE YET. SO I'LL BE A NO ON THAT JUST FOR MY LOGIC AROUND THAT. YOU KNOW, IT REALLY DOES COME DOWN. I MEAN, WELL, WE TALKED ABOUT A BIT ABOUT THE ONE PROPERTY IN PARTICULAR ALREADY, BUT AROUND THE SPECIAL MANAGEMENT ZONE AND THE WORK CAMPS. IT REALLY DOES COME DOWN TO ME FOR WE'VE GOT THAT WORK COMING UP. YOU KNOW, ON THE COMMUNITY PLAN OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS, WE'VE ALREADY HAVE A WORKAROUND THAT ADMIN HAS FOUND AROUND WORK CAMPS IN CAM LAKE. WE ARE COMMITTED TO MAKING A CHANGE THERE ANYWAY AROUND THE SPECIAL MANAGEMENT ZONE. I THINK I'M GETTING THERE WITH WHAT THE ISSUE IS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'VE NEVER HAD A PROPERTY OWNER APPLY FOR AN APPLICATION TO AMEND THE BYLAW. SO I KIND OF GO WITH TO A CERTAIN DEGREE. I'M LIKE, IF AN APPLICATION HASN'T COME IN, PEOPLE HAVEN'T BEEN WILLING TO PUT THEIR MONEY ON THE TABLE, WHICH IS, I KNOW, SOMETHING THAT CAN BE CONTROVERSIAL TO SAY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE PROCESS IS THAT THE THAT THE APPLICATION HAPPENS, ADMIN GIVES THEIR RECOMMENDATION. COUNCIL HAS TO DETERMINE THAT APPLICATION. WE DID IT TWO WEEKS AGO AND SOMEBODY WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE APPLICATION PROCESS, PAID ALL OF THESE FEES, CAME TO COUNCIL. IN THAT CASE, WE AGREED WITH ADMINS RECOMMENDATION, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO. AND WE STRUGGLED WITH IT. I REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION NOT THAT LONG AGO. SO THAT'S WHERE FOR ME, IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO THAT FAIRNESS AND CONSISTENCY IN THE PROCESS. AND BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE DOING THE COMMUNITY PLAN BYLAW REVIEW ALREADY, IF THAT WAS JUST DONE A YEAR AGO AND IT WASN'T GOING TO HAPPEN FOR ANOTHER SEVEN YEARS, I MAYBE WOULD BE IN A DIFFERENT HEADSPACE. BUT THIS WORK IS HAPPENING NOW. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S AGAIN, IT'S I'M VERY TORN ON IT, BUT DESPITE A LOT OF THINKING, I HAVEN'T MOVED FULLY AWAY FROM THAT FAIRNESS PRINCIPLE OF, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO THIS FOR THESE PROPERTIES, OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS, THEY DON'T GET THIS SAME LUXURY. AND THERE WAS A THERE WAS AN APPLICATION TWO WEEKS AGO THAT WE DECLINED. WE COULD HAVE JUST TOLD THAT PERSON, COME TO COUNCIL, WE'LL DECLINE IT NOW FOR YOU AND SAVE YOU A BUNCH OF MONEY. AND THAT'S REALLY HARD FOR ME TO TO GRAPPLE WITH. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHERE I SIT. AGAIN, APPRECIATE WHERE EVERYBODY'S COMING FROM. I KNOW I'M PROBABLY IN THE MINORITY, BUT SO WITH THAT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S OUT THERE. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME, EVERYONE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHERS? COUNCIL MCLENNAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND APOLOGIES FOR RUNNING FROM WORK TO DROP IN. I THINK I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR THE MAYOR ABOUT THE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE FIRST AMENDMENT. UPON WHAT CRITERIA DOES THIS PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER GET TO SKIP THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR A COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT? YEAH, I JUST WOULD LIKE SOME CLARITY ON THAT SPECIFIC CRITERIA YOU'RE USING. YEAH. THE FACT THAT IT'S POTENTIALLY 200 PLUS HOMES AND TO COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSON'S POINT ABOUT YOU KNOW, COMPARING IT TO THE PREVIOUS COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST. I DID COMPARE THE TWO AND FOR ME, WE HAD OUR HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT IN OCTOBER, WHICH SHOWS WE NEED OVER 1060 HOMES BUILT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN OR NOW AND 20, 35 FOR THE WORK CAMPS. WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR IN THEIR REPORT WAS THE NEED FOR WORK CAMPS. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE THAT IN, IN THE DOCUMENT. AND THE DIFFERENCE WAS ALSO THAT WE NEEDED TO ACTUALLY HAVE WRITTEN POLICY CHANGES VERSUS THIS ONE'S A BOUNDARY CHANGE WHERE JUST LOOKING TO COPY PASTE ALL THE POLICY AND OBJECTIVES FROM ONE AREA TO ANOTHER. IF IN THE WORK CAMPS, WE ACTUALLY HAD ANOTHER AREA THAT HAD ALL THE POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES, AND WE COULD HAVE DONE A COPY PASTE IT COULD HAVE BEEN MORE OF A POSSIBILITY. BUT FOR ME, IT'S REALLY THE CASE OF IT CAN PRODUCE OVER 200 PLUS HOMES IN THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S WHY I'M LOOKING TO ACCELERATE IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH. LIKE COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN. I'M PRETTY CONFLICTED ON THIS. AND IT. YEAH. SEEMS IT'S HARD TO GRAPPLE WITH. I KEEP COMING BACK. I WANT TO SUPPORT THESE AMENDMENTS, BUT THERE'S A PART OF MY BRAIN THAT JUST KEEPS TRIPPING. [00:50:07] IF IT SEEMS LIKE THE ISSUE HERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT OUR PROCESS THAT ISN'T ALLOWING DEVELOPERS TO BUILD HOMES IN YELLOWKNIFE TO THE SPEED THEY NEED TO FINANCIALLY. THEN THE ISSUE THERE IS WITH THE PROCESS, I DON'T THINK THE ANSWER IS INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPERS COMING TO COUNCILORS OR THE MAYOR TO CIRCUMVENT OUR PROCESSES THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED IN BYLAWS. SO I, I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THE THIRD WORK CAMPS ITEM, BUT NOT THE FIRST TWO. THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR WARBURTON. JUST BASED ON OUR CONVERSATION HERE, I GOT JUST SOMETHING TO. SO WE KEEP SAYING, OH, NO APPLICATION, NO APPLICATION. SO I JUST WENT THROUGH ROUGHLY WHAT THAT WOULD COST TO YOU. A COMPLETE PLAN AMENDMENT, A ZONING AMENDMENT, A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND A SURVEY FOR SOMEONE JUST TO PUT AN APPLICATION IN BETWEEN 140 AND $160,000. SO WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL WHEN WE SAY WE SEE AN APPLICATION. THERE'S LIKE TWO PEOPLE IN THE WHOLE CITY THAT COULD DO THAT, RIGHT? PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS NEVER DOING THAT, EVER. THEY'RE GOING TO COME TO OUR COUNTY PLAN AMENDMENT HEARINGS AND OUR ZONING BYLAW, WHICH THEY ALL DID, AND WE IGNORED THEM. SO PARTICULARLY AROUND THE SPECIAL MANAGEMENT ZONE. I THINK THAT'S IT'S NOT REALISTIC TO ASK THOSE FOLKS THAT OWN ONE LITTLE PROPERTY TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS LIKE THAT TO AMEND SOMETHING. SO THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT IT. SO JUST IN CLOSING. YEAH, I AGREE. I THINK OUR PROCESS DOES NEED TO CHANGE AND UPDATE AND HOW CAN WE GET TO SIGNALS QUICKER AND CHEAPER OF LIKE, SO THAT YOU'RE NOT INVESTING. WHAT WAS THAT 160, $140,000. MAYBE IT'S A YES, MAYBE IT'S A NO. AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COST TO DOING BUSINESS, BUT IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN EITHER ACCELERATE OR LOOKING AT I THERE'S SOME REALLY INTERESTING STUFF THERE. SO WE'LL SAVE THAT FOR A DIFFERENT DAY. OH. COUNCILLOR FEQUET TO CLOSE. THANKS, MADAM CHAIR. JUST CHECKING. YOU GUYS CAN HEAR ME, OKAY? YES WE CAN. GREAT. JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. SO, IF COUNCIL DECIDED TO SUPPORT THESE AMENDMENTS TODAY IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE COMMUNITY PLAN PROCESS THAT'S GOING TO TAKE 12 TO 18 TO 24 MONTHS MAY DECIDE THAT THAT LAND ACTUALLY SHOULD BE USED IN A DIFFERENT WAY? OR ARE THERE DIFFERENT POLICY PRINCIPLES GET CHOSEN? I'M JUST TRYING TO DIVE IN A LITTLE BIT HERE ON THE CONSISTENCY AND CERTAINTY FOR THE DEVELOPER. LIKE, WE COULD DECIDE IT TONIGHT, BUT IT COULD CHANGE, I GUESS, RIGHT THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE LARGER PROCESS. TECHNICALLY, IF SOMEBODY CAME TO THE STATUTORY PUBLIC HEARING, BUT REALISTICALLY, NOT REALLY. WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS THAT IT'S GOING INTO WEST RESIDENTIAL, SO ALL THE POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES WOULD APPLY THERE. IF SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO COME SPEAK OUT AGAINST IT, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE JUST A STRAIGHT NO, I DON'T SEE COUNCIL BEING ABLE TO CHANGE IT. BUT MR. VAN DINE, I DON'T KNOW IF ADMIN WANTS TO SPEAK TO THE VARIETY AT A STATUTORY PUBLIC HEARING THAT THE COUNCIL COULD CHANGE THE BYLAW. SO JUST. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. SO I BELIEVE THE QUESTION IS ALSO SPEAKING TO. SUBSEQUENT STEPS THAT MIGHT HAPPEN AFTER THE CONSIDERATION OF THIS MATTER. AT COUNCIL NEXT WEEK. SO NOT NECESSARILY THE BYLAW AMENDMENT PROCESS THAT I THINK YOU SPOKE VERY ACCURATELY TO. SO WITH, WITH RESPECT TO THE THE COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS, THAT'S WE WE HOPE TO LAUNCH VERY SHORTLY. THERE IS AGAIN, THAT TECHNICAL POSSIBILITY THAT PEOPLE CAN BRING FORWARD AND THEY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, CREATE A ZONING AREA FOR CIRCUSES OR SOMETHING. SO THAT IS ABSOLUTELY A PART OF THE PROCESS THAT THAT COULD OCCUR TO THE POINT. BUT AS AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF REFERENCES TO THE NEED FOR HOUSING, INCLUDING IN OUR HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT SURVEY AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT PARTICULAR AREA GETS ADJUSTED IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DIRECTION. CORRECTION. WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE. WE DON'T HAVE THAT CRYSTAL BALL. DIRECTOR WHITE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? THANK YOU. YES. SO TECHNICALLY, YES. SOMEONE COULD. OR BASED ON AN ACTUAL FULSOME PLANNING ANALYSIS IN THAT AREA, MAYBE BASED ON TRAFFIC, MAYBE BASED ON THE ROADS, MAYBE BASED ON ABILITY TO SERVICE. THE RECOMMENDATION MAY BE ALTERNATE TO WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED THIS EVENING, AS WELL AS THE VARIOUS PLANS THAT WERE PROVIDED UP BY THE PROPERTY OWNER [00:55:02] THIS EVENING. JUST IN A CURSORY LOOK, NOT ALL OF THOSE WOULD FIT IN THE WEST RESIDENTIAL. SO THEN IF THE APPLICANT WANTED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THEY STILL HAVE TO DO A COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. THANK YOU. THANKS. I THINK THAT SEGUES TO MY NEXT QUESTION. I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK, BASED ON THE PROPOSAL THAT MILAN SHOWED US, THAT IT SEEMED HE WAS LEANING TOWARDS KIND OF THE MIX OF THE THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND THE FUTURE COMMERCIAL ALONGSIDE THE 144 UNITS. AND AND APOLOGIES IF I MISSED THE THE OPPORTUNITY ON THIS ONE, BUT BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPER. BUT I LOOK JUST LOOKING AT THE POLICY OBJECTIVES IN THAT TABLE FOR THE WEST RESIDENTIAL AREA. ARE WE ACTUALLY RESTRICTING THE DEVELOPER IN WHAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO DO BY APPLYING THIS KIND OF CARTE BLANCHE OR LIKE, DOES THE DEVELOPER KNOW RIGHT NOW THAT REGARDLESS OF THE CONFIGURATION OF THIS LOT, THEY ABSOLUTELY WANT THE WEST RESIDENTIAL POLICY OBJECTIVES TO GUIDE THE THE DEVELOPMENT? YEAH, I DID SPEAK TO THEM BEFORE BRINGING IT FORWARD AND SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A POSSIBILITY THAT IT WOULD JUST BE WEST RESIDENTIAL AND AND THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF BECAUSE IT WOULD BE CHANGING AND IT WOULDN'T CHANGE SOMEBODY'S PRIVATE PROPERTY FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL WITHOUT GOING GOING THROUGH THEM. AND SO, YEAH, THE PROPOSALS WOULD HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE, THE WEST RESIDENTIAL OR THEY WOULD THEN HAVE TO GO AND DO A COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT. YEAH. SO MR. VAN DINE ANYTHING TO ADD? THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO COMMENT THAT IT IS REFRESHING AND PLEASANT TO SEE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL APPLYING SOME PLANNING PRINCIPLES THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR QUITE SOME TIME. AND, AND, AND SO WHAT WE'RE I THINK GETTING AT IN TERMS OF THE QUESTION IS IN, IN THE TYPICAL PROCESS, YOU WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THOSE KIND OF CONTEMPLATIONS BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMMUNITY PLAN. SO TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT YOU KNOW, MIXED COMMERCIAL PLUS RESIDENTIAL PLUS OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, YOU WOULD HAVE THE FULLNESS OF THE, OF THE PROPOSAL WITH WHICH TO GUIDE THE ADVICE BY WHICH AN AMENDMENT WOULD COME FORWARD. SO SO I THINK THAT ALL OF THAT IS, IS TYPICALLY THE WAY THAT THE CURRENT PROCESS IS, IS DESIGNED. I BELIEVE THAT NOTHING IN THE AMENDMENT OR THE PRESENTATION THAT I HEARD FROM MADAM CHAIR WITH RESPECT TO THIS MOTION WOULD SUGGEST THAT THAT ANALYSIS IN ANY OTHER CIRCUMSTANCE, IS NOT NO LONGER REQUIRED OR VALUED. I BELIEVE WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT THERE IS A SPECIFIC PROPONENT THAT HAS A SPECIFIC IDEA FOR A SPECIFIC SET OF HOUSING TO CLOSE A SPECIFIC HOUSING GAP WITHIN A SPECIFIC PERIOD OF TIME, AND THEREFORE FEELS THAT THIS MOTION IS TIMELY TO BRING FORWARD TO SEND A PARTICULAR SIGNAL. THAT BEING SAID, ALL OF THE PLANNING RULES THAT NORMALLY APPLY IN A DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION WOULD STILL APPLY WITH A DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION THAT COMES FORWARD REGARDLESS OF THIS AMENDMENT. SO WHETHER OR NOT THIS WILL SAVE THE PROPONENT, THE THE PROSPECTIVE PROPONENT ADDITIONAL STEPS, TIME OR MONEY THAT REMAINS ULTIMATELY TO BE DETERMINED. AND SO I THINK THE MATTER BEFORE COUNCIL IS SIMPLY DOES COUNCIL WANT TO SEND A PARTICULAR SIGNAL AT THIS TIME IN THIS REGARD OR DOES IT NOT? AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE REAL QUESTION, RATHER THAN APPROVING A PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU FOR THAT RESPONSE. COULD ADMINISTRATION OR. MADAM CHAIR, JUST REFRESH MY MEMORY? I HEARD A REALLY BIG NUMBER IN THE PRESENTATION THERE ABOUT I GUESS THE IDENTIFIED NEED FOR A LIFT STATION THAT WAS GOING TO COST US 85 TO $100 MILLION. OR THERE WOULD BE AN ARRANGEMENT TO SORT THAT OUT. CAN YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY ON. IS THAT DURING THE ZONING? IS THAT THE AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN? CAN YOU CAN YOU REMIND ME WHEN WHEN THAT. OR IS IT DURING THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT? WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND CONNECTION ARRANGEMENTS GET SORTED OUT. THE AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN WOULD IDENTIFY WHETHER IT'S TRUCKED OR PIPED AND THEN SERVICE AGREEMENTS. DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WOULD BE THAT NEGOTIATING PART. BUT I THINK THAT 85 TO 100 INVESTMENT HE WANTS TO DO IN THE HOUSING. YEAH THE TOTAL INVESTMENT FOR THE PROJECT AND NOT ACTUALLY JUST THE LIFT STATION, BUT MR. VAN DINE IF MEN WANTS TO SPEAK TO THAT FINANCIAL ASPECT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. SO SO THE DIFFICULTY THAT WE HAVE IS THAT THERE'S QUITE A FEW BLACK BOXES WITH RESPECT TO THE THE FINANCIAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU'RE SURFACING HERE THAT WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO TO GIVE YOU ADVICE AROUND. [01:00:02] WHAT WE WOULD SAY IS THAT BASED ON CONVENTIONAL UNDERSTANDING, IS THAT THERE ARE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS THAT THIS PROPOSAL SHOULD MOVE FORWARD, THAT WOULD BE NEED TO BE FACTORED, AND COUNCIL WILL WOULD NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE COSTS OF THAT WOULD BE BEFORE MAKING A DETERMINATION IN THAT IN THAT ENVIRONMENT, ADMINISTRATION WOULD BE WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WOULD DO THE THE ANALYSIS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE AND RESIDENTS ARE NOT UNWITTINGLY STEPPING INTO A LIABILITY WITH RESPECT TO AN INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT THAT IS NOT FULLY DESCRIBED IN ADVANCE. SO BUYER BEWARE, DEVELOPERS BEWARE. WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR SIGNIFICANT DETAIL WITH RESPECT TO PLANS AND DETAILS AROUND SUBSTANTIAL DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CITY TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT SADDLING FUTURE YELLOWKNIFE OR CURRENT YELLOWKNIFE WITH A FINANCIAL BURDEN. THAT'S NOT IRRESPONSIBLE. BUT IN THE EXAMPLE OF HULL CRESCENT, IT WAS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PHASE THAT THE NEGOTIATIONS AND THE DEVELOPER HAS TO PAY FOR ROADS, WATER, SEWER, ETC. HAPPENS. AND ONLY BECAUSE IT CAME UP, BUT AND I MEAN, AGAIN, JUST TRYING TO DECIDE, I GUESS IF THIS INDIVIDUALLY FOR EACH OF US PASSES THE CRITERIA TO, YOU KNOW, GO AROUND AND THE TYPICAL PROCESS. DO WE KNOW IF THIS WOULD BE ABLE TO BE PIPED WATER FOR SURE? IT'S BEEN A DISCUSSION. IT'S BEEN A DISCUSSION IN THE PAST. BUT MR. VAN DINE I THINK AS A GENERAL STATEMENT, I WOULD SAY THAT WE ARE ENCOURAGING PIPED WHEREVER WE GO FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE FOR THE LONG TERM FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY OF THE CITY. WHAT IS I THINK PUBLIC INFORMATION IS THAT WE DO HAVE PIPE SERVICE ADJACENT. BUT THAT SIGNIFICANT CHANGES WOULD BE NEEDED TO BE MADE IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE A DEVELOPMENT OF THAT KIND. THAT ANALYSIS HAS NOT BEEN DONE BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE DO NOT HAVE A PROPER PROPOSAL BEFORE US. SO. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. WITH THAT ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? SORRY. COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN DID YOU HAVE CAN WE SPLIT IT AND DO THE FIRST TWO AND THEN THE. YEAH, WE CAN SPLIT THE MOTION. SO WE'LL SPLIT THE MOTION. THE HEADER STAYS WITH ANYTHING THAT'S APPROVED. OF COURSE. SO TO THE FIRST UPDATE THE BOUNDARY OF 4.6 WEST RESIDENTIAL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? COUNCILLOR MCGURK, ARE YOU STILL WITH US? I'M GOING TO SAY, OKAY. COUNCILLOR MCGURK I'LL SAY IS OUT. BUT THAT CARRIES WITH COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN AND COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN OPPOSED TO POINT TWO, WHICH IS ABOUT THE SPECIAL MANAGEMENT ZONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OPPOSED. AND THAT CARRIES WITH COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN AND COUNCILLOR. MCLENNAN OPPOSED AND COUNCILLOR MCGURK ABSENT. AND TO THE FINAL TO STRIKE THE DEFINITION OF WORK CAMP. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. OPPOSED. AND THAT CARRIES WITH COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN OPPOSED AND COUNCILLOR MCGURK ABSENT. WITH THAT THERE WAS NO NEW BUSINESS FOR THE AGENDA. IS THERE ANY NEW BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR? THERE WERE NO BYLAWS FOR THE AGENDA. THERE WAS NO DEFERRED BUSINESS AND THERE WERE NO TABLED ITEMS FOR THE AGENDA. IS THERE ANY DEFERRED BUSINESS OR ARE THERE ANY TABLED ITEMS FROM THE FLOOR? THERE WAS NO OLD BUSINESS FOR THE AGENDA. IS THERE ANY OLD BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR? THERE WERE NO NOTICES OF MOTION FOR THE AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY NOTICES? NOTICES OF MOTION FROM THE FLOOR. WITH THAT, WE HAVE A DELEGATION PERTAINING TO ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. [25. A presentation from Janet Dean, Executive Director of the Territorial Agrifood Association, regarding agriculture in Yellowknife.] WE HAVE HAD A REQUEST. IT WAS PASSED THE DEADLINE. BUT WE'VE HAD A REQUEST FROM BECCA TO DO A PRESENTATION STORY ON THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION FUND. [01:05:04] IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION MOVE BY COUNCILOR HENDRICKSEN, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR COUNCILLOR. WARBURTON. ANYBODY OPPOSED? SEEING NONE, WE CAN ADD THAT TO THE AGENDA. SO WITH THAT, WE'LL START OFF WITH THE PRESENTATION FROM JANET DEAN, WHO'S THE EXECUTIVE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE TERRITORIAL AGRI-FOOD ASSOCIATION, REGARDING AGRICULTURE IN YELLOWKNIFE. MISS DEAN FIVE MINUTES. AND THEN IF TIME IS REQUIRED, WE CAN DO A MOTION TO SEE ABOUT A TWO MINUTE EXTENSION. SO WITH THAT, I'LL HAND THE FLOOR OVER TO YOU. YOU JUST WANT TO PUSH THAT LITTLE TALKING HEAD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. A WHOLE RIGHT TURN FROM YOUR DISCUSSIONS THIS EVENING. BUT. AND OFF THE TOPIC, BECAUSE IT'S AGRICULTURE WEEK THIS WEEK AND AGRICULTURAL DAY TOMORROW. SO WE WANT TO REMIND YOU ALL ABOUT AGRICULTURE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF AGRICULTURE, WHICH IS AN EASY AND EASY TASK. BECAUSE YELLOWKNIFE HAS SHOWN LEADERSHIP OVER THE YEARS IN TERMS OF BRINGING GROWING AND FOOD PRODUCTION AND AGRICULTURE IN AN URBAN CONTEXT. CERTAINLY AT THE FOREFRONT OF COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE N.W.T. FIRST N.W.T. FARMERS MARKET IN 2013. THE GROWTH STRATEGY THAT'S A GREAT PIECE OF WORK. AND NOT JUST THE STRATEGY, BUT THE PROGRESS ON THE STRATEGY SINCE 2019. WORKING WITH THE FARMERS MARKET TO HELP GET LOCAL EGGS AVAILABLE FOR SALE. THE SUPPORT FOR BACKYARD CHICKENS AND ALL THE THE GARDENING SUPPORTS THAT ARE IN PLACE, AS WELL AS ZONING AND LAND USE CHANGES WHEN WE HAVE HAD SOME MARKET GARDENS THAT HAVE STRUGGLED WITH THAT. AND THE SUPPORT HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS, INCLUDING THE CULINARY FESTIVAL, AND THE CITY JUMPED ON BOARD TO HELP US GET OFF THAT, THAT OFF THE GROUND TWO YEARS AGO. SO WE KNOW YELLOWKNIFE SHOWS LEADERSHIP. WE KNOW YOU KNOW ABOUT FOOD AND CARE ABOUT FOOD, AND WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE AND CELEBRATE THAT AND SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE DO APPRECIATE IT. IT APPRECIATED IT IS. YOU'VE GOT A MILLION THINGS ON YOUR AGENDA AND I KNOW WE ARE. THIS SHOULD BE EASIER THAN IT IS, RIGHT? SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T. THERE WE GO. PRETEND THAT IT'S SMOOTH. BUT WE DO WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT OUR FUTURE NEEDS FOOD. WE'VE GOT ONGOING SUPPLY CHAIN DISRUPTIONS, AS YOU ALL EXPERIENCED FIRSTHAND. WE'VE GOT ESCALATING COSTS OF GROCERIES. WE'VE GOT THE POTENTIAL TRADE WAR, WHICH WILL IMPACT US HERE. WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE ANALYSIS. WE'VE TALKED TO EXPERTS. WE KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE AN IMPACT HERE IF THAT HAPPENS. WE'VE GOT INCREASING FOOD INSECURITY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WE KIND OF DON'T TALK ABOUT ENOUGH IS WE'VE GOT REALLY GOOD LOCALLY GROWN FOOD. IN FACT, THIS YEAR WE'RE RESEARCHING THE ANECDOTAL STORIES THAT NWT OR YELLOWKNIFE ROOT VEGETABLES ARE SWEETER THAN ROOT VEGETABLES ELSEWHERE BECAUSE OF OUR LONGER DAYS OF GROWING. PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT. A CARROT TASTES MORE LIKE A LIKE A CARROT HERE. AND WE'VE GOT A RESEARCH PROJECT THAT WILL ACTUALLY PROVE THAT. SO WE CAN SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT JUST HOW SPECIAL IT IS. SO WE KNOW THAT OUR FUTURE NEEDS FOOD. WE'RE ASKING YOU TO JOIN US. THE TERRITORIAL AGRIFOOD ASSOCIATION IS HAPPY TO DO A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF WORK TO KEEP YELLOWKNIFE ON THE URBAN AGRICULTURE MAP. WE'RE LOOKING FOR ADVOCACY. WE'RE INVOLVED IN LOTS OF INNOVATION. AND WE'RE THERE'S JUST SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE FORTHCOMING. SO THIS IS MY KIND OF LIKE, HERE'S IF WE HAD A WISH LIST. THIS IS MY CHRISTMAS LIST IN MARCH. HELP US ADVOCATE FOR THE TERRITORIAL MEAT REGULATIONS. THEY KEEP GETTING STUCK. THERE IS NO, IT IS NOT. YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PRODUCE A MEAT PRODUCT FOR SALE IN THE NWT. NO CHICKEN FOR SALE, NO BEEF FOR SALE. WE'VE GOT NO PIGS FOR SALE. WE'VE GOT FARMERS IN THE SOUTH, SLAVE WITH COWS IN THEIR FIELDS THAT THEY CAN'T BUTCHER LEGALLY. FIND A WAY TO DO IT, BUT THEY'RE NOT DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY. AND THE TERRITORIAL GOVERNMENT HAS SAID, SORRY, NOT A PRIORITY TO GET THESE REGS CHANGED. WE NEED ABOUT $60,000 TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. SO HELP US ADVOCATE FOR THAT. WE'RE WRITING LETTERS. WE'RE TALKING TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE. THE TAXES AND WATER. WE'VE DONE JURISDICTIONAL SCANS ACROSS SIMILAR SIZED JURISDICTIONS, AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAS DISCOUNTED RATES FOR AGRICULTURE. AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR HELP WITH THAT. IT'S AGRICULTURAL LEASE RATES, AGRICULTURAL TAX RATES, WATER FOR AGRICULTURE REALLY SHOULD BE IN A SEPARATE CATEGORY. AND WE'RE ASKING FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT IN WHAT YOU'RE DOING. PROCUREMENT. BE CREATIVE IN PROCUREMENT. WE DID A POLICY PAPER ON TERRITORIAL AND MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS REQUIRING LOCAL FOOD AND PROCUREMENT. AND THE PUSHBACK IS PEOPLE GO, WELL, WE CAN'T REQUIRE IT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT VERY MANY PEOPLE DOING IT? YOU'RE RIGHT. BUT IF YOU REQUIRED IT, THERE'D BE A LOT MORE PEOPLE DOING [01:10:06] IT. AND SO WHEN YOU LET CONTRACTS FOR FOOD AT AT CITY FACILITIES PUT A REQUIREMENT IN THAT THE PRIORITY GOES TO LOCAL FOOD. AND UNTIL IT'S THERE WHERE WE CAN PROVIDE THEM ALL THE PRODUCE THEY NEED, THEY CAN AT LEAST GET LOCAL POTATOES OR LOCAL BEETS AND KEEP THAT ON THE MENU. SO IT'S EASY TO INVOLVE WITH THAT. WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE THE POLICY PAPER. HAPPY TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT DEMONSTRATION FARM AND URBAN AGRICULTURE. WE'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF GREAT MODELS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THE SOUL FOOD FARMS IN VANCOUVER. IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN THOSE. THEY'RE MOVABLE FARMS THAT HAPPEN IN INNER CITIES AS A WAY TO USE SPACE THAT IS EITHER CONTAMINATED LAND OR JUST AN OLD A SITE THAT IS WAITING FOR DEVELOPMENT. PUT AN URBAN FARM ON THERE. TEACH OUR COMMUNITY HOW TO GROW. PEOPLE WHO ARE MAYBE MARGINALIZED IN THEIR EMPLOYMENT CAN COME AND LEARN AND LEARN AND HAVE A PLACE TO GO AND HEAL THROUGH THE LAND. AND THEN WHEN THAT LAND, THE CITY NEEDS THAT LAND, WE JUST MOVE IT ALL OVER TO ANOTHER SPOT. AND THEN WE CAN MOVE IT AGAIN. BUT IT ALLOWS FOR COMMERCIAL FOOD PRODUCTION. THIS ISN'T HOBBY FOOD PRODUCTION. THIS IS COMMERCIAL FOOD PRODUCTION. SO WE CAN MAKE A DENT IN THE GROCERY BILLS THAT PEOPLE HAVE SO WE CAN HELP OUR RESTAURANTS HAVE ACCESS TO FRESH PRODUCE. WE SEE RESTAURANTS LIKE COPPERHOUSE STRUGGLING TO GET LETTUCE OF ANY QUALITY IN, WELL, LETTUCE. WE CAN GROW YEAR ROUND HERE. WE SO SUPPORT US WITH THAT. PERHAPS TWO SECONDS. MOTION TO EXTEND MOVE BY COUNCILOR PAYNE. SECOND BY COUNCILOR ARDEN-SMITH. ANYBODY OPPOSED? SEEING NONE. AN EXTRA TWO MINUTES. OH, MY APOLOGIES. I TRIED REALLY HARD. MAYBE, LIKE, WE'VE GOT SO MANY IDEAS. HAPPY TO TALK IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN IT, BUT A HACK A THON. GET THE CITY SOLVING OUR FOOD PROBLEMS. WE CAN SUPPORT THAT. ALREADY EDUCATING RESIDENTS. WE'RE A PART OF PART OF SOMETHING CALLED THE SUSTAINABLE FUTURES FOR CANADA. WE JUST GOT FUNDING TO BE THE NORTHERN NODE TO BRING INNOVATION IN AGRICULTURE. WE WANT TO DO IT ACROSS THE TERRITORIES, BUT WE'RE BASED HERE. WE KIND OF WANT TO USE YELLOWKNIFE TO BE THE MODEL. CONSIDER PUBLIC SPACES FOR FOOD PRODUCTION. YOU'VE GOT AN EMPTY WALL, PUT UP A GROW WALL AND LET IT BE FOR COMMERCIAL FOOD, NOT JUST DECORATIVE. VISITOR CENTER HAS A LOVELY MOSS WALL. LET'S HAVE SOME VEGETABLES GROWING SO VISITORS CAN SEE THAT WE CAN GROW VEGETABLES THERE. WE CAN MAKE IT ALL HAPPEN. WE JUST ARE ASKING YOU TO PRIORITIZE IT OR KEEP IT ON YOUR AGENDA. BECAUSE NOW FOR MY PITHY QUOTE TO END ON. THERE WE GO. GARDENING IS AN ACT OF PRIVILEGE. IT'S GREAT TO HAVE GARDENERS, BUT IT NEEDS MONEY AND TIME AND RESOURCES. BUT AGRICULTURE IS AN ACT OF SERVICE. WE HAVE FARMERS HERE WANTING TO FARM. WE HAVE PEOPLE WANTING TO PRODUCE FOOD IN A VOLUME THAT IMPACTS ALL OF US, NOT JUST THE FEW WHO GET TO GET TO THE FARMERS MARKET IN THE FIRST HALF HOUR. SO WE HOPE YOU KEEP AGRICULTURE ON YOUR PRIORITIES. IT'S AGRICULTURE WEEK THIS MONTH. PRESENTATION AT THE LIBRARY AT NOON. IF YOU WANT TO HEAR THE QUIRKY HISTORY OF AGRICULTURE, THERE'S A PLAY A ONE WOMAN PLAY ON REGENERATIVE AGRICULTURE AT THE VISITOR'S CENTER ON WEDNESDAY. AND OF COURSE, OUR GROW NWT BIG AGRIFOOD CONFERENCE AT THE END OF NEXT WEEK. YOU'RE ALL WELCOME TO ATTEND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JANET. QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER. COUNCILLOR DEPUTY. OH, SORRY. NEW TITLE, NEW TITLE. COUNCILLOR. COCHRANE. IT'S NICE TO GET BACK TO THE CLASSIC TITLE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, JANET. VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. AS YOU'RE WELL AWARE, AND I'M SURE EVERYBODY ELSE HERE, I DO LOVE MY FOOD. AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT YOU'RE DOING SO MUCH IN ITS ADVOCACY. ONE THING I WOULD CERTAINLY SAY IS I LOVE SEEING THESE WISH LISTS. A LOT OF THIS, I THIS, I THINK, WOULD HAVE TO BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH OUR BILATERALS WITH OUR MLAS AND BRINGING UP THESE CONVERSATIONS. SO EVEN SEEING THIS, IF YOU COULD SEND US AN ELABORATED VERSION OF YOUR WISH LIST, THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO BRING THESE ISSUES FORWARD. AND YES, PLEASE SHARE THE POLICY PAPER WITH US. I'M SURE EVERY NERD HERE WOULD LOVE TO READ IT. AND THE HACKATHON IS INTERESTING. I THINK WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO CALL IT A ROUNDTABLE AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE. AS YOU MIGHT KNOW, OUR WORK PLAN IS A LITTLE FULL, BUT I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN'T ADAPT THAT EVEN SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH. KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND LET US DO YOUR WORK. WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THE WORK, TO ORGANIZE THINGS, TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. AND WE'VE ALREADY SEPARATED OUT WHAT YOU GUYS CAN DO AND WHAT WE NEED THE TERRITORY TO DO, OR BOTH OF YOU TOGETHER. SO HAPPY TO SEND THAT ALONG. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER? JEN I GUESS THE THE ONE I HAD WITH LAND AND THE EXAMPLE HAVE YOU HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH ESSO DOWNTOWN TO [01:15:02] TRY TO GET THAT AS A DEMONSTRATION OF THAT EXAMPLE OF BUILD IT UNTIL IT'S NEEDED? YES. WE THINK THAT'S THE PERFECT MODEL BECAUSE IT'S CONTAMINATED LAND. IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR PEOPLE, BUT WE CAN'T GET THE RIGHT PERSON TO TALK TO. SO IF IF YOU GUYS HAVE THE PERSON WE COULD REACH OUT TO, WE COULD HELP THEM SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS WITH THAT PROPERTY. VERY WELL. WE'LL SEE WHAT SEE WHAT NUDGES WE CAN DO ON THAT ONE. BUT YEAH, IF YOU DO HAVE THE, THE MEET REGS, THE PROCUREMENT EXAMPLES AND WE'LL PROBABLY ONLINE HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR CONFERENCE AND STAY TUNED FOR AN INVITE. WE'RE DOING SOME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORK WITH OUR CIRCUMPOLAR FRIENDS, MUNICIPALITIES, 14 OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS THE CIRCUMPOLAR. AND SO LOOKING TO INVITE YOU GUYS TO TO COME TELL THEM AND TO HEAR FROM THEM AS WELL. SO GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. BECCA, IF YOU WANT TO COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, BEFORE ADMINISTRATIVE INQUIRIES. THANK YOU. OVER TO YOU. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH. MAYOR ALTY, COUNCILORS STEVEN VAN DINE ADMINISTRATION FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TONIGHT. I'M HERE REPRESENTING COMMUNITIES IN MOTION. AND I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE HAS INDICATED THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE CAPACITY TO APPLY FOR THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION FUND, WHICH IS DUE FEBRUARY 26TH. SO ANYONE CAN APPLY ON THE CITY'S BEHALF AND COMMUNITIES IN MOTION UNDER ECOLOGY NORTH IS READY TO DO SO. AN EXAMPLE OF THE PROJECTS WE CAN PROPOSE FOR MATCH FUNDING ARE AS FOLLOWS. THE FRAME LAKE, TRAIL EXTENSION AND REPAIRS. IT WAS ESTIMATED AT AROUND 400,000 BACK IN 2019 AND WE HAD A LOT OF INFLATION. MAYBE IT'S WHAT, HUNDRED THOUSAND TO DO THAT. UPGRADE THE PAINTED BIKE LANES PROPOSED FOR SUMMER OF 2025 TO ALSO HAVE BOLLARDS OR TRAFFIC BARRIERS TO HELP PROTECT USERS FROM VEHICLES, OR EVEN GARDEN BOXES BY COMMUNITY MEMBERS. REPLACE BIKE RACKS AT CITY HALL AND INCREASE BIKE RACKS FOR PEOPLE TO STORE THEIR BIKES DOWNTOWN. REPAIR REPAIR PLANS FOR FRANKLIN HILL INTO OLD TOWN FOR 2026. CONNECT THAT BIKEWAY IN A MEANINGFUL AND SAFE WAY. HOW CAN WE FIND THE 25% BASE FUNDING? $10,000 FROM PAINTED BIKE LANES? 600,000 FROM AN ANTICIPATED CARBON TAX REBATE FOR 2025. THE NEXT ONE? PROBABLY THE LAST ONE. 400. AND THAT THAT IS LIKE A CARBON REBATE THAT'S INTENDED TO BE USED FOR PROJECTS THAT HELP A CITY BECOME RESILIENT AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE, SUCH AS ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS. AND 400,000, MAYBE FROM THE FUNDS ALREADY ALLOCATED FOR THE HILL AND FRANKLIN. I'VE CHECKED, AND IT IS PERFECTLY FINE TO USE FUNDS THAT WERE GIVEN FROM ANOTHER PROVINCIAL AND FEDERAL SOURCE WITHIN THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION FUNDING, AS THAT 75% LIKE AS AS AT 25%. SO THERE COULD BE QUITE A FEW THINGS THAT CAN THESE AMOUNTS ADD UP. THAT'S LIKE OVER $1 MILLION AVAILABLE. AND IN A 25% COST OF A PROJECT, THAT WOULD MEAN THAT YOU COULD FUND UP TO A $4 MILLION PROJECT. LIKE, YOU COULD BE PUTTING YOU COULD BE AFFORDING $4 MILLION OF ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION INTO OUR, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S AMAZING. AND THE PROJECTS HAVE TO BE COMPLETED BY ABOUT 2030, SO THAT'S A LONG TIME FROM NOW. SO WE'RE ASKING PERMISSION TO APPLY ON THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION FUND ON YOUR BEHALF. AS AND AS A NOT FOR PROFIT ECOLOGY. NORTH CAN APPLY ON THEIR OWN, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE BASE FUNDING. BUT MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO FOR THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE. NEED TO DO. AND YES. AND IN FACT, PLANNING AND DESIGN FEES ARE ALSO COVERED UNDER THE ACT OF TRANSPORTATION FUND. SO IF WE DECIDED, OH, WE NEED TO DESIGN MORE OR OR MAKE THIS PROJECT WORK. THAT COULD HAPPEN. SO THAT'S WHAT I CAME HERE TONIGHT. WE JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET A LOT OF FUNDING AT 75% OF ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION FUND. IT WOULD SEEM SILLY TO TO NOT WANT TO DO IT. AND SO WE'RE READY TO, TO DO SO. YEAH. THAT'S ALL. THANKS. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER. NO COMMENTS, JUST QUESTIONS. YES. BUT IF WE'RE GETTING INTO THE DEBATE, I'D RECOMMEND WE JUST SEND IT TO GPC BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY GOING TO ADVANCE ANYTHING. WE'RE JUST HEARING FROM A PRESENTER. SO, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION. COUNCILLOR COCHRANE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR. [01:20:08] MY UNDERSTANDING, THOUGH, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE FRAME LAKE EXTENSION, IT HAS TO BE AN UP TO DATE CLASS D ESTIMATE, DOES IT NOT? WE CAN'T JUST USE ONE FROM 2018. YEAH. SO A CLASS D ESTIMATE MEANS THAT YOU JUST NEED TO IDENTIFY HOW MANY KILOMETERS, HOW MANY METERS YOU ARE ACTUALLY DOING AND WHAT'S THE COST PER METER. AND THERE'S ALLOWED TO BE LIKE A 30 TO 40% VARIANCE IN THAT COST ESTIMATE. AND I DO FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT FOR EXAMPLE WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING UP FOR INFLATION FOR LIKE WHAT WOULD WE SAY LIFT STATION ONE THAT CAME OUT AS 15 MILLION ORIGINALLY ESTIMATED THEN CAME BACK AS BACK AS 45 MILLION. THAT WAS A 300% INCREASE. OKAY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN NECESSARILY DO THAT WITHOUT A PROPER UP TO DATE ONE. AND I DO THINK WE'RE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO A DEBATE ON THIS ONE. OKAY. THE CHALLENGE BEING THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ALLOCATES BUT THEY DON'T INCREASE. SO IF WE COME IN LOWBALL AND THEN SO THE INTENT WOULD BE NOT TO GO IN LOWBALL AND ACTUALLY IDENTIFY A GOOD PRICE FOR THE PROJECTS THAT ARE INTENDED. PROBABLY. YEAH. WE'LL GET INTO THE DEBATES. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER. COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN STICKING. JUST A QUESTION. JUST A QUESTION. BECCA, AS YOU KNOW WELL, I KNOW WELL, THE DEADLINE IS COMING UP IN 15 DAYS. YEAH. 16 DAYS. HOW MUCH TIME IS NEEDED FROM THE COMMUNITIES OF [INAUDIBLE] COLLEGE, NORTH SIDE TO ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER THIS APPLICATION? AS THE MAYOR SAID, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS INTEREST AND I WOULD HAVE TO LEAVE IT TO A COLLEAGUE TO DECIDE THAT I'VE TRIED THIS. BUT TO BRING IT TO GPC NEXT WEEK TO TALK ABOUT BUDGET. SO HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU ACTUALLY NEED AND WHAT'S YOUR TIMELINE TO GET SOMETHING BY THE 26TH? IF THERE WAS WILL OF WELL, IF THERE WAS, WELL WE'D WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING TO YOU BY NEXT MONDAY. IN ORDER FOR YOU TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS A GOOD IDEA, LET'S DO THIS. WE WOULD DO A DRY RUN OF THE APPLICATION AND PRESENT IT TO YOU. AND THAT WAY, IF THERE WERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT LIKE, PAST PROJECTS OR ANYTHING, THEN WE COULD ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT, OKAY, HOW MUCH WAS THIS BEFORE? AND GET SOME, SOME TECHNICALITIES FINISHED. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I WILL AS YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD MY CRACK AT THIS, SO I'LL LEAVE IT TO A COLLEAGUE IF THEY WANT TO PROGRESS THIS. THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR FEQUET. THANKS, MADAM CHAIR. QUESTION FOR BECCA. SO, I JUST, I THINK I JUST HEARD THAT YOUR PLAN OR YOUR THOUGHT OR ASSUMPTION WOULD BE THAT YOU'D WANT TO GET US A DRAFT FOR NEXT WEEK TO DISCUSS. SO I MEAN, I AM WILLING TO ASK FOR THIS TO BE DISCUSSED FURTHER AT GPC, ESPECIALLY IF COMMITTEES AND MOTION IS WILLING TO START PUTTING TOGETHER THE FRAMEWORK OF AN APPLICATION THAT LETS US ACTUALLY SEE AND, YOU KNOW, KNOW IF THERE ARE REAL CONSTRAINTS OR PROBLEMS OR ISSUES OR IF IT'LL BE OKAY. SO CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM THAT I HEARD THAT RIGHT, THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING DRAFTED FOR US TO DISCUSS FOR NEXT GPC? YEP. OKAY. THANK YOU. THE CHALLENGE IS IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN BY MIDNIGHT TONIGHT. BECAUSE REALISTICALLY, INTO THE. WELL, IT SHOULD BE FOR NEXT MONDAY. JUST BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO FOR MONDAY, WE'VE GOT TO WORK BACKWARDS, AND WE'VE GOT TO HAVE IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC. WE'VE STAFF HAVE GOT TO REVIEW IT. AND SO OKAY, BASICALLY YOU'VE GOT THREE HOURS TO GET CLASS D ESTIMATES. AND IT'S THE CHALLENGE. IT'S WITH THE FEDERAL FUNDING. SO, IF COUNCILLOR FEQUET WANTS TO ADVANCE THIS, IT REALLY HAS GOT TO BE DONE TONIGHT. OKAY. CLASS D ESTIMATES AND SORRY, MADAM MAYOR, JUST A QUESTION OF CLARIFICATION. I MEAN, WHY CAN'T IT JUST COME IN? WE'D BE GETTING OUR MATERIALS ABOUT FRIDAY. THURSDAY OR FRIDAY SEEMS TO VARY DEPENDING ON THE LOAD OF MATERIALS. SO, COULDN'T THIS COME IN LATER THIS WEEK KNOWING THAT IT'S JUST FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES ON MONDAY AT GPC? AND IF COUNCIL AT THAT TIME WISHED TO MOVE IT TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME WHEN STAFF WOULD SPEND SOME TIME ON THIS. WE WOULDN'T ASK THEM TO DO SO BEFOREHAND. I WOULDN'T IMAGINE SO. THEN STAFF WOULDN'T ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THE THEN COUNCIL APPROVES IT ON THE 24TH. IF YOU. THE CHALLENGE IS STAFF WON'T HAVE ANY EYES ON IT BEFORE IT COMES TO GPC, SO WE'D WANT TO HAVE IT DONE SO THAT IT CAN GO TO STAFF. THERE'S THEIR MEETINGS WEDNESDAY MORNING. MATERIAL GETS OUT TO THEM TOMORROW. SO THAT'S THE CHALLENGE WE RUN INTO WITH GPCS AND COUNCILS. [01:25:05] BUT IF YOU'RE BRINGING MOTIONS ON THE FLY, THEN IT HAS TO BE THURSDAY AT TEN. BUT THERE'S NO INPUT THEN FROM STAFF. SO THAT'S JUST FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION. IF YOU DO WANT TO REACH OUT TO COMMUNITIES IN MOTION AND YOU'RE BRINGING FORWARD A MOTION THURSDAY BY 10 A.M. THERE'S JUST NO INPUT FROM STAFF. AND COULD NOT BE INPUT FROM STAFF AFTERWARDS, THOUGH, IF COUNCIL DECIDED TO GO AHEAD WITH THIS NEXT MONDAY. IF COUNCIL IS GOING TO DIRECT STAFF TO WORK ON IT FOR THAT WEEK. YES. YEAH. SOMETHING FOR YOU TO CONSIDER. AND YOU CAN CONNECT WITH COMMUNITIES IN MOTION RIGHT AFTER THIS MEETING. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A TURN AROUND THAT QUICK. YEAH. I GUESS I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM SOME OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES. I MEAN, IF COMMUNITIES OF MOTION IS WILLING TO DO THIS WORK, I'M WILLING TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS WHATEVER THEY CAN GET US BY WHATEVER TIME LATER THIS WEEK. THEY NEED TO MEET THAT DEADLINE BEFORE AND NOT NECESSARILY ASK STAFF TO DO WORK BEFORE COUNCIL HAS DECIDED THIS IS WORTHWHILE BECAUSE I THINK WE KNOW EVERYONE SUPPORTS ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION. IT'S MORE JUST WE'RE KIND OF STUCK IN THIS RED TAPE PROBLEM, WHICH SEEMS LIKE THERE'S GOT TO BE A GOOD SOLUTION TO WORK THROUGH THIS. WE DID HAVE THE DISCUSSION AND THE MAJORITY WEREN'T IN FAVOR OF ALLOCATING IT. SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO LOOKING TO BRING FORWARD A NEW MOTION ON MONDAY, THEN THAT'S YOUR. IT WOULD BE UP TO YOU, BUT WE'RE NOT HERE FOR DISCUSSION OR DEBATE, SO IT'S JUST QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER. I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE REALITY OR THE FEASIBILITY OF GETTING THAT WORK AND THE TIMING AND THE PROCESS MOVING FORWARD. SO APPRECIATE YOUR HELP ON THAT. NOT A PROBLEM. ANYTHING FURTHER. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER. SEEING NONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE INQUIRIES. THERE WERE NO ADMINISTRATIVE INQUIRIES FOR THE AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY ADMINISTRATIVE INQUIRIES FROM THE FLOOR? SEEING NONE. IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOVED BY COUNCILOR COCHRANE. WE CAN BE ADJOURNED. AND WE WILL SEE EVERYBODY NEXT MONDAY AT 12:05 P.M. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.