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[00:00:07]

OKAY, I WILL CALL OUR COUNCIL MEETING FOR TUESDAY, JUNE 24TH TO ORDER AND I'LL ASK COUNCILLOR PAYNE TO PLEASE READ THE OPENING STATEMENT.

[1. Councillor Payne will read the Opening Statement.]

CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE ACKNOWLEDGES THAT WE ARE LOCATED IN CHIEF DRYGEESE TERRITORY.

FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL IT HAS BEEN A TRADITIONAL LAND OF THE YELLOWKNIVES DENE FIRST NATION.

WE RESPECT THE HISTORIES, LANGUAGES AND CULTURES OF ALL OTHER INDIGENOUS PEOPLE, INCLUDING THE NORTH SLAVE METIS AND ALL FIRST NATIONS, MÉTIS AND INUIT WHOSE PRESENCE CONTINUES TO ENRICH OUR VIBRANT COMMUNITY.

THERE WERE NO AWARDS CEREMONIES OR PRESENTATIONS FOR THE AGENDA.

[Items 3 & 4]

MINUTES OF COUNCIL FOR THE REGULAR MEETING ON MONDAY, JUNE 10TH, 2020 FOR COUNCILOR PAYNE.

I MOVE THAT MINUTES FOR THE REGULAR MEETING OF MONDAY, JUNE 10TH, 2024.

BE PRESENTED FOR ADOPTION.

SECOND BY COUNCILOR FEQUET.

ANY ERRORS OR OMISSIONS? SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

NEXT, WE HAVE DISCLOSURE OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND THE GENERAL NATURE THEREOF.

DOES ANY MEMBER HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST TODAY? SEEING NONE.

THERE WAS NO CORRESPONDENCE, NOR WERE THERE ANY PETITIONS FOR THE AGENDA.

THERE WERE NO STATUTORY PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE AGENDA.

THERE WERE NO DELEGATIONS PERTAINING TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

THERE WERE NO STATEMENTS FOR THE AGENDA.

ARE THERE ANY MEMBER STATEMENTS FROM THE FLOOR? THERE WERE NO REPORTS FOR THE AGENDA.

WE HAVE NEW BUSINESS.

WE HAVE A MEMORANDUM REGARDING WHETHER TO APPOINT STEPHEN VAN DINE AS CITY MANAGER, AND THAT WILL COME BEFORE US IN ENACTMENT OF BYLAWS.

AND WE HAVE A MEMORANDUM REGARDING WHETHER TO APPOINT WILLIAM BADU AS A DEVELOPMENT OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE.

[Items 13 & 14]

COUNCILLOR PAYNE. I MOVE THAT PURSUANT TO SECTION 3.1 OF ZONING BYLAW NUMBER 5045, AS AMENDED, WILLIAM BADU BE APPOINTED AS A DEVELOPMENT OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE AND TO THE TERM OF APPOINTMENT SHALL EXPIRE UPON TERMINATION OF EMPLOYMENT WITH THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE. THANK YOU.

DO I HAVE A SECONDER? DEPUTY MAYOR COCHRANE.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? SEEING. NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

WELCOME ABOARD. WILLIAM.

NEXT WE HAVE ENACTMENT OF BYLAWS.

[Items 15 - 17]

BYLAW NUMBER 5078 IS A BYLAW TO REPEAL AND REPLACE LAND ADMINISTRATION.

BYLAW NUMBER 54596, AS AMENDED, IS PRESENTED FOR SECOND AND THIRD READING.

COUNCILLOR PAYNE, I MOVE SECOND READING OF BYLAW NUMBER 5078.

THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A SECONDER? COUNCILOR ARDEN-SMITH ANY DISCUSSION? FOR MYSELF, I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE LAND ADMINISTRATION BYLAW AS PRESENTED IN REGARDS TO THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ON A DISPOSAL BYLAW.

I NOTE THAT AS PER SECTION 3.1 OF THE NEW BYLAW, THAT LAND CAN ONLY BE DISPOSED OF IF IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S COMMUNITY PLAN, BYLAW AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BYLAWS AND ZONING BYLAWS.

SO THE LAND DOES HAVE TO ALREADY GO THROUGH PRETTY EXTENSIVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES BEFORE IT'S DISPOSED OF.

AND AS WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF DEVELOPING OUR AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR ENTERPRISE DRIVE EXTENSION, WE DO SEE THAT THE PUBLIC DOES GET QUITE ENGAGED.

AND WITH THE LAST INGLE BUSINESS DISTRICT, AGAIN, RESIDENTS WERE QUITE ENGAGED IN THE AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

AND THEN WE HAD RESIDENTS WHO WERE INTERESTED IN BUYING LAND FOR EXAMPLE, THE THE SWEDISH SATELLITE STATION THAT APPROACHED US IN SEPTEMBER 2022. BUT WE WERE IN THE MIDST OF AN ELECTION, AND SO WE HAD TO WAIT AND PAUSE.

AND THEN IT WAS ONE OF THE COUNCIL'S FIRST DECISIONS ABOUT ACTUALLY DISPOSING OF THE BYLAW.

AND SO THE THE ADMINISTRATIVE DELAY OF BEING ABLE TO DISPOSE OF LAND COULD HAVE WE COULD HAVE LOST THAT OPPORTUNITY TO, TO GET THOSE SATELLITE FARMS. SO I DO SEE DISPOSAL BYLAWS AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE STEP AND APPRECIATE THE WAY THAT THIS, THIS BYLAW HAS BEEN DRAFTED.

SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE BYLAW AS PRESENTED.

WITH THAT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

TO THIRD READING, COUNCILLOR PAYNE.

I MOVE THIRD READING OF BYLAW NUMBER 5078.

THANK YOU. SECOND BY COUNCILOR ARDEN-SMITH.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

NEXT WE HAVE BYLAW NUMBER 5090.

[Items 18 - 21]

A BYLAW TO APPOINT STEPHEN VAN DINE AS CITY MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE IS PRESENTED ONLY FOR FIRST AND SECOND, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE FULL COUNCIL TODAY.

COUNCILLOR PAYNE FIRST READING I MOVE FIRST READING OF BYLAW NUMBER 5090.

THANK YOU. SECONDER DEPUTY MAYOR COCHRANE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

TO A SECOND READING.

I MOVE SECOND READING OF BYLAW NUMBER 5090.

THANK YOU. SECONDER COUNCILOR ARDEN-SMITH.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

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AND WE'LL BRING A THIRD READING TO OUR LAST MEETING IN JULY.

[Items 23 & 24]

BYLAW NUMBER 5088 IS A BYLAW TO SET THE 2024 MUNICIPAL TAX LEVY FOR THIRD READING.

COUNCILLOR PAYNE I MOVE THIRD READING OF BYLAW NUMBER 5088.

THANK YOU. SECONDER.

COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.

ALL IN FAVOR? AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY BYLAW NUMBER 5089.

[Items 25 & 26]

COUNCILLOR. PAYNE I MOVE THIRD READING OF BYLAW NUMBER 5089.

SECONDER, COUNCILOR ARDEN-SMITH.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

THERE WAS NO DEFERRED BUSINESS AND THERE WERE NO TABLED ITEMS FOR THE AGENDA.

IS THERE ANY DEFERRED BUSINESS OR ARE THERE ANY TABLED ITEMS FROM THE FLOOR? THERE WAS NO OLD BUSINESS FOR THE AGENDA.

IS THERE ANY OLD BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR? THERE WERE NO NOTICES OF MOTION FOR THE AGENDA.

ARE THERE ANY NOTICES OF MOTION FROM THE FLOOR? DELEGATIONS PERTAINING TO ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

[33. DELEGATIONS PERTAINING TO ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA]

WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM MR. SPENCER TRACY REGARDING THE FUTURE USE OF HABITAT FOR HUMANITY RESTORE SITE ADJACENT TO THE YELLOWKNIFE LANDFILL.

SPENCER, I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THE OFFICIAL RULES EXCEPT BE RESPECTFUL.

AND. YEAH.

CORRECT. AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES AND THE POSSIBILITY FOR A TWO MINUTE EXTENSION BY MOTION OF COUNCIL.

AND THEN AFTER YOU'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK, WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS OF YOU OR TAKE THIS UNDER ADVISEMENT.

AND THEN WE WOULD DISCUSS IT AT A FUTURE MEETING.

SO IF YOU JUST WANT TO PUSH THE THE LITTLE TALKING HEAD THERE.

I JUST IF YOU PUSH IT ONE MORE TIME.

OH, THERE YOU GO. OKAY, OKAY.

WE'RE GOOD. YEAH, YEAH.

THERE WAS A COMMUNICATION OR MISCOMMUNICATION, I GUESS, BETWEEN WHY I'M ACTUALLY HERE.

SO WHAT I HAD PROPOSED TO TO SPEAK ON WAS EXPANDING KIND OF OUR OUTDOOR RINKS IN YELLOWKNIFE AND THE RESTORE LOCATION AS BEING ONE OF THOSE. SO IT WASN'T SPECIFIC TO THE FUTURE USE OF THE RESTORE LOCATION.

I AM HERE TO SPEAK JUST ON RECREATION BROADLY, BUT SPECIFICALLY THE KIND OF CREATION OF A NEW ICE RINK IN YELLOWKNIFE.

SO WHY UPGRADE OUR RINKS? YEAH. SO YELLOWKNIFE, AS WE KNOW, IS A GREAT WINTER CITY LONG HISTORY OF WINTER SPORTS ACTIVITIES.

BUT MANY OF THOSE ACTIVITIES ARE EXPENSIVE.

AND SO THEREFORE OUT OF REACH FOR A LOT OF OUR CITIZENS.

SO, JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, A TEN YEAR OLD IN YELLOWKNIFE, IT COSTS $850 TO REGISTER FOR HOCKEY.

AND THEN YOU ADD ON, YOU KNOW, JERSEY DEPOSITS AND A HOCKEY STICK AND EQUIPMENT AND A TOURNAMENT, AND IT GETS VERY EXPENSIVE VERY QUICKLY.

SO WHICH BASICALLY PUTS HOCKEY OUT OF REACH FOR A LOT OF OUR CITIZENS.

I REALIZE THE CITY AND SPORT NORTH DO HAVE PROGRAMS IN PLACE TO KIND OF MAKE THESE PROGRAMS MORE ACCESSIBLE.

BUT STILL, THERE'S BARRIERS, WHETHER IT BE TRANSPORTATION OR OTHER ISSUES.

AND I THINK AN OUTDOOR RINK OR ANY SORT OF PUBLIC SPACE THAT'S TRULY, YOU KNOW FREE TO ACCESS KIND OF EXPANDS PEOPLE'S OPPORTUNITIES.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, FRED HANNAY BEACH, THE PUBLIC BASKETBALL COURTS, THE SCHOOL PLAYGROUNDS LATELY, LIKE, VOLLEYBALL HAS TAKEN OFF.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOTICED IN TOWN, THERE'S VOLLEYBALL RIGHT NOW HAPPENING OUTSIDE HERE.

SO THOSE ACTIVITIES I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE GROW AND SPECIFICALLY IN THE WINTER.

AND SO SOME OF YOU KNOW THAT A FEW YEARS AGO WE STARTED WORKING ON A RINK AT LAKE AND IT WAS REALLY AND THIS TO ME, I LEARNED A LOT FROM IT REALLY BECAME VERY POPULAR VERY QUICKLY, SPECIFICALLY THE OVAL AT RAT LAKE.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THE WAY THE WINTER HAS STARTED.

SO BASICALLY LOTS OF SNOW AND MILDER TEMPS, WE'VE BEEN UNABLE TO KIND OF GET THAT ICE SAFE AND USABLE.

SO WE HAVE NOT HAD THIS RINK FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.

THIS WAS TAKEN IN 2022.

SO WHAT MAKES A GOOD OUTDOOR RINK? A COUPLE OF THINGS. YOU NEED BOARDS AND YOU NEED A BACKSTOP.

YOU CANNOT PLAY HOCKEY WITHOUT BOARDS.

YOU JUST SPEND ALL YOUR TIME LOOKING FOR THE PUCK.

YOU NEED A WARMING SHACK.

IT'S YELLOWKNIFE. YOU'RE TYING YOUR SKATES.

YOU OFTEN HAVE CHILDREN.

YOU NEED GOOD LIGHTING BECAUSE IT'S DARK, ESPECIALLY IN DECEMBER.

NOVEMBER? IT MUST BE LARGE ENOUGH THAT TEENAGERS AND ADULTS CAN PLAY OR AT LEAST TEENAGERS.

IT NEEDS VOLUNTEERS.

WE NEED PEOPLE COMMITTED TO KEEPING THIS.

I DON'T THINK CITY STAFF SHOULD BE TASKED WITH MAINTAINING THIS RINK IN ALL ITS, YOU KNOW AND IN ALL OF ITS WHAT'S REQUIRED, I GUESS.

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AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, I WOULD SAY A GOOD OUTDOOR RINK IS NOT ON A NATURAL WATER BODY.

IT MAKES IT WAY MORE DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN, TO SET UP, THERE'S SAFETY ISSUES.

SO HAVING IT ON LAND MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE.

SO JUST A COUPLE EXAMPLES FROM KIND OF I JUST LOOKED AT KIND OF NORTHERN ALBERTA AND THE YUKON JUST TO AND I'M, YOU KNOW.

I. YEAH. I DON'T WANT TO.

I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS.

SO THIS IS IN COLD LAKE AND YOU CAN JUST SEE KIND OF WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PROPER BOARDS, RINK ZAMBONI, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T SEE, BUT THERE'S LIGHT STANCHIONS THERE, LOTS OF PARKING.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING.

AND HERE THEY ALSO HAVE A REALLY NICE SKATING TRAIL, WHICH IS OFTEN IN THE SAME LOCATION, BECAUSE WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS OFTEN PEOPLE HAVE YOUNGER CHILDREN OR YOU LET CHILDREN PLAY FOR A WHILE, THEN YOU'LL KICK THEM OFF AND PUT THEM ON THE SKATING TRAIL, AND THEN ADULTS WILL PLAY AND VICE VERSA.

AND SO IT'S REALLY NICE TO EITHER HAVE TWO RINKS OR ONE PROPER RINK AND SOMETHING ELSE FOR THE KIDS TO DO, IDEALLY A SKATING OVAL, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAD SET UP AT RAT LAKE AND WE FOUND IT WORKED REALLY WELL.

THIS IS IN PEACE RIVER, SO THEY YOU CAN SEE THEY KNOW THIS BOARDED RINKS WITH LIGHTS IN THEIR LOCATIONS.

SO THIS IS DIRECTLY FROM THEIR WEB PAGE.

SO THEY HAVE MULTIPLE I THINK THEY HAVE SEVEN RINKS LIKE THIS IN PEACE RIVER.

THEY'RE ALL BASICALLY THE SAME LIGHTS, BOARDS, ZAMBONI, LINES, NETS AND ALL OFFICIAL SIZE.

HIGH LEVEL, SAME THING, HIGH LEVEL.

YOU CAN SEE THEIR OVAL, THERE'S NOT MUCH TO IT, RIGHT? IT'S SMALL.

IT KIND OF WINDS THROUGH THE WOODS.

IT'S REALLY EASY TO MAINTAIN BECAUSE THE ZAMBONI JUST PASSES TWICE AND IT'S DONE.

BUT, YEAH, IT'S A NICE FEATURE.

SO HIGH LEVEL. AND THEN WHITEHORSE, I REALLY LIKE WHAT WHITEHORSE HAS DONE, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE IT'S NOT.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THOSE SIGNS WERE MADE BY CITY STAFF.

I LIKE THAT, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S VOLUNTEERS THAT WORK HERE.

AND IT'S JUST WELL DONE, RIGHT? IT LOOKS A LOT LIKE YELLOWKNIFE WITHOUT THE SKATING PATH.

AND SO I LIKE THAT.

AND ALSO, SO WHITEHORSE HAS 35 OUTDOOR RINKS AND THEY'RE ALL MAINTAINED EXCLUSIVELY BY VOLUNTEERS.

SO CBC LOVES THIS.

THEY'RE ALWAYS DOING STORIES ON IT, ESPECIALLY THIS INDIVIDUAL HERE, BECAUSE THIS GUY SPENDS ALL OF HIS WAKING HOURS, IT SEEMS LIKE MAINTAINING THIS RINK, WHICH IS GREAT.

ANOTHER THING WHITEHORSE DOES REALLY WELL, AND SOMETHING I'VE TALKED TO A NUMBER OF CITY STAFF AND COUNCILORS ABOUT, AND SHEILA AS WELL IS WHEN YOU GO TO THE YELLOWKNIFE OR WHITEHORSE WEB PAGE AND YOU GOOGLE KIND OF RINKS, THIS IS WHAT IT TAKES YOU TO.

SO THERE'S A LIST OF 35 RINKS.

THEY GIVE YOU KIND OF THE CONDITION WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK.

IT'S IT'S MAINTAINED OR RESURFACED.

AND ALSO THERE'S A FORM THAT YOU CAN DOWNLOAD AND SUBMIT TO THE CITY IF YOU WANT TO ADD TO THIS LIST.

IF YOU WANT TO BUILD A RINK, AND IT'S A VERY CLEAR DOCUMENT THAT TELLS YOU WHAT YOU KNOW, THE CITY EXPECTS FROM YOU AND WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT FROM THE CITY, RIGHT? AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE 35 RINKS.

IT WORKS REALLY WELL.

AND I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT COMES AT A LARGE EXPENSE TO THE CITY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE LION'S SHARE OF THE WORK AND THE MATERIALS COME FROM VOLUNTEERS.

SO I REALLY LIKE THAT WHAT THEY'VE DONE HERE, AND IT'S REALLY SIMPLE AND USER FRIENDLY.

SO HERE'S A PICTURE OF OUR RINK.

THIS IS JUST I DIDN'T HAVE A PICTURE.

THIS IS JUST TAKEN FROM THE WEBSITE.

BUT YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, IT JUST DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME LUSTER THAT, THAT THESE OTHER WINGS HAVE.

AND AGAIN, IT'S SO MUCH MAINTENANCE.

LIKE, I WATCHED THE GUYS OUT THERE THIS WINTER WORKING ON THIS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY DAYS OR HOW MANY HOURS OR DOLLARS WERE SPENT, BUT IT WAS A LOT.

RIGHT. AND IT'S BASICALLY BECAUSE IT'S ON A ON A REAL ICE SURFACE.

AND IT CAME IN IN MARCH.

RIGHT? WE WERE PLAYING HOCKEY IN THE MIDDLE OF OCTOBER ON ICE IN YELLOWKNIFE.

RIGHT. SO IT YOU KNOW, WE LOST A LOT OF OUR HOCKEY SEASON AND NO LIGHTS, NO PERMANENT STRUCTURE.

RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU CAN'T IT'S ON A LAKE.

WE JUST GOT TO DO OUR TWO MINUTE EXTENSION MOTION TO EXTEND COUNCILLOR FEQUET AND COUNCILLOR.

ARDEN-SMITH. ANYBODY OPPOSED SEEING NONE.

TWO MINUTES. THANKS, REBECCA.

SO, AND HERE'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

SO THIS IS THE RINK THAT'S NEAREST MY HOUSE.

AND THEY'RE ALL KIND OF THE SAME SIZE IN YELLOWKNIFE.

SO THIS IS KIND OF THE SIZE OF AN OUTDOOR RINK YOU WOULD FIND IN YELLOWKNIFE COMPARED TO AN ACTUAL HOCKEY RINK.

SO IT'S NOT EVEN THE SAME LENGTH AS THE WIDTH OF A TYPICAL RINK, WHICH AGAIN, AS AN ADULT, LIKE YOU CAN'T PLAY HOCKEY ON HERE, YOU SIMPLY EVEN THREE AND THREE, IT'S TOO CONGESTED. AND SO, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M ASKING FOR HERE IS A LARGER RINK, OR AT LEAST A LARGER SPACE WHERE WE COULD BUILD A RINK.

WHY INVEST IN A COMMUNITY RINK? THEY'RE ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE.

WHAT I NOTICED AT RAT LAKE IN PARTICULAR, A LOT OF NEW CANADIANS AND A LOT OF ELDERS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T PLAY HOCKEY THAT I DON'T.

I HAVE ALL FIVE OF US IN MY FAMILY PLAY HOCKEY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE I DON'T SEE AT THE RINK, WE'RE AT RAT LAKE, SO IT'S MUCH MORE ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE.

THEY'RE INEXPENSIVE, LIKE THESE ARE OUTDOOR RINKS, ARE REALLY INEXPENSIVE TO BUILD AND EVEN MAINTAIN IF YOU CAN ATTRACT VOLUNTEERS.

AND LASTLY THEY BUILD UP OUR MARKETING FOR TOURISTS, RIGHT? I MEAN, IF YOU THINK OF THE RIDEAU CANAL, YOU THINK OF WINNIPEG.

THEY HAVE THESE BEAUTIFUL OUTDOOR SKATING AREAS AND A LOT OF THEM CAN'T MAINTAIN THEM.

THE CANAL HAS BEEN CLOSED TWO YEARS IN A ROW.

RIGHT. WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY HERE TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, CASH IN ON OUR ON OUR COLD WEATHER.

HOW I PROPOSE WE MOVE FORWARD.

FIRST OFF, I NEED THE CITY COUNCILORS OR ADMINISTRATION, WHOEVER, TO FIND A LOCATION IN THE CITY THAT WE CAN DO THIS.

I DON'T REALLY CARE WHERE IT IS, TO BE HONEST, BUT WE NEED A SPACE THAT'S DESIGNATED FOR AN OUTDOOR RINK.

IF THERE WAS MONEY TO BACK THAT UP, YOU KNOW, 5000, $10,000, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

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IF NOT, I THINK WE CAN STILL DO IT.

IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOME SEED FUNDING, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD DISCONTINUE THE LAKE.

THE FRAME LAKE RINK.

MAYBE PUT IN AN OVAL IN FEBRUARY OR IN MARCH AND APRIL.

BUT I WOULD NOT PUT AN OUTDOOR RINK THERE.

AND I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO, LIKE RECRUIT AND KIND OF OPEN THE DOORS OF CITY HALL TO VOLUNTEERS.

AND, AND THE WHITE HORSE HAS A REALLY GOOD MODEL FOR THAT.

THE WHITE HORSE. WHITE HORSE? CHALLENGES. WE NEED A WARMING, SHACK WARMING SHACK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK FROM CITIZENS.

IT'S GOING TO BECOME A HAVEN FOR FOR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, DOING THE VARIOUS THINGS.

THE RINK NEEDS TO BE MANAGED.

SOMEONE. IT'S GOING TO GET TOO BUSY TOO QUICKLY.

GUARANTEED. NEIGHBORS WILL BE UPSET ABOUT NOISE, PARKING.

AND WHO WILL PAY FOR IT? ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO COST MUCH.

QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ASK ME QUESTIONS, I ASK YOU QUESTIONS.

WE WE OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.

COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN. THANKS VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR, AND THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

IS THERE A ONE SPECIFIC SPOT THAT YOU WOULD HAVE IN MIND IF YOU GOT TO PICK? I THANKS COUNCILLOR FOR THE QUESTION.

SO I HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS.

OH, SORRY. I HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH A NUMBER OF PEOPLE AT THE CITY AND PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT'S THE PERFECT LOCATION.

AND SO I PROPOSED TO THE CITY THAT WE BUILD IT ADJACENT OR EVEN ON THE EXISTING TENNIS COURTS AT NEXT TO WIKI ARENA.

SO THE BUNCH OF COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY DO USE THEIR EXISTING EXISTING TENNIS COURTS FOR SKATING RINKS, WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE IT'S LEVEL, IT'S FENCED.

OFTEN THERE'S LIGHTING, AND IF THERE'S NOT LIGHTING THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, THE RINK WILL HAVE TO INSTALL LIGHTS AND THE TENNIS PLAYERS ARE HAPPY.

SO THAT'S THERE'S LOTS OF PARKING THERE.

BUT I WOULD THINK EVEN ADJACENT TO THAT SPOT.

SO THAT'S AGAIN THE TENNIS COURT BESIDE THE NEW POOL.

I THINK THE MULTIPLEX OR THE FIELD HOUSE PARKING LOT.

I DO THINK THE HABITAT FOR HUMANITY RESTORE SITE.

I THINK EVEN DIRECTLY BEHIND TOMMY, TOMMY, FORREST BALL DIAMOND I HAVE TALKED WITH THE, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE FAST PITCH THERE.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE INTERESTED IN THAT.

THERE'S THERE'S A NUMBER OF SPACES, RIGHT.

AND YOU KNOW THAT I LIKE THAT ONE.

IT'S CLOSE TO MY HOUSE. BUT TO BE HONEST, I THINK WE JUST BUILD ONE SOMEWHERE IN YELLOWKNIFE.

AND WE GO FROM THERE.

SO THOSE ARE A FEW OF THE SPOTS.

COUNCILLOR. THAT CAME UP.

AWESOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH, IT'D BE AN INTERESTING TOPIC OF CONVERSATION.

I KNOW THIS CAME UP AT THE LAST BUDGET DELIBERATIONS, BUT MORE FOR SORT OF SUMMER USE.

SO YEAH, IT'D BE AN INTERESTING TOPIC FOR BUDGET 2025.

THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PAQUETTE.

THANKS FOR KILLING THE LOCATION QUESTION.

YEAH. SO I GUESS IN YOUR IN YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH CITY STAFF SO FAR SPENCER, HAVE YOU IS THERE ANY OTHER CHALLENGES OR ANYTHING FROM CITY STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE THAT THEY'VE SHARED THAT WOULD PROHIBIT US FROM, FROM TAKING A CRACK AT A RINK SOMEWHERE? I THINK THAT QUESTION WOULD BE BEST FOR CITY STAFF.

SO MS. BASSI-KELLETT.

THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE. IF COUNCIL WANTS TO PROCEED WITH THIS, THEN WE DIRECT STAFF TO COME FORWARD WITH IMPLICATIONS LIKE BUDGET AND LIABILITY AND ALL THOSE FUN CONSIDERATIONS.

YEAH. MS. BASSI-KELLETT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND WE REALLY APPRECIATED BEING ABLE TO SIT DOWN WITH SPENCER AND TALK THESE THINGS THROUGH.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS WITH IT.

SERVICE LEVELS ARE ONE, OF COURSE.

WE HAVE NOT HAD THE CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE WHITE HORSE MODEL AROUND LIABILITY, SO WE'D WANT TO MAKE SURE ABOUT THAT.

HAVING HAD ANECDOTALLY, HAVING HAD A RINK RIGHT ON MY STREET IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

I KNOW THERE WAS SOME RISK THAT HAPPENED THERE, ALONG WITH A LOT OF ENJOYMENT, BUT THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO THAT.

SO THERE ARE MANY PIECES OF THIS WE'D NEED TO LOOK AT.

I'LL SEE IF MR. WHITE HAS ANY OTHER THOUGHTS HE'D LIKE TO SHARE.

YES. THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LOCATION, WE'D CERTAINLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING MORE CENTRAL OR SOMETHING THAT IS CENTRAL WHERE EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO.

NOT NECESSARILY NEED A CAR, BUT BE ABLE TO WALK TO.

AND THEN WE'D BE LOOKING AT ON A REGIONAL BASIS.

WOULD THERE BE ONE IN FRAME LAKE, ONE DOWNTOWN, ONE IN OLD TOWN? WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT FAIRNESS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY IS SOMETHING THAT WE KEEP IN THE FOREFRONT AS WELL.

THANKS. CAN I SPEAK TO THAT OR AM I ALLOWED TO SPEAK AGAIN? WELL, I THINK FOR US IT'S IT'S HEARING ABOUT IT.

AND SO NOW IT'S UP TO US TO, TO DIRECT STAFF TO DO FURTHER WORK ON IT.

SO. SURE. YEAH.

COUNCILOR PAQUETTE. YEAH.

JUST I MEAN, YEAH, WE USED TO LIVE ON 57, SO THAT ONE BEHIND TOMMY FORREST I'M FAMILIAR WITH, IT'S BUILT ONCE IN A WHILE.

LIKE, IT SEEMS LIKE SOME OF THESE RINKS ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED CURRENTLY.

I MEAN, RAT LAKE.

MY KIDS SKATED ON IT A FEW YEARS AGO.

SO THERE ARE RINKS BEING BUILT CURRENTLY BY VOLUNTEERS WITHIN CITY LIMITS.

SO IF YOU MENTIONED THAT LIKE, CASH, YOU KNOW, IS PROBABLY SOMETHING YOU COULD FIGURE OUT.

SO IS IT REALLY JUST THE PERMISSION AND THE FORMALITY OF FROM THE CITY THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? EXACTLY.

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SO I MY HOPE WAS ORIGINALLY WHEN I MOVED TO FOREST NEIGHBORHOOD WAS TO KIND OF BUTTRESS OR LIKE BUILD UP ONE OF THE EXISTING RINKS.

AND I DID MEET WITH THE CITY AND I WAS TOLD I WASN'T PERMITTED TO DO THAT.

SO I WANTED TO PUT BOARDS AND PUT BETTER LIGHTS AND BENCHES.

BUT THEN WE MOVED TO RAT LAKE, AND I THINK THE LAKE KIND OF GAVE US THAT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, FREEDOM TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PUT IN A WARMING SHACK AND PUT UP BOARDS AND PUT UP LIGHTS WITHOUT CITY WITH ON CITY LAND, I WAS TOLD I WAS NOT ALLOWED.

YOU KNOW, I SHOULD NOT DO THAT WITHOUT PERMISSION.

DEPUTY MAYOR COCHRANE, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM CHAIR, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

SPENCER, ESPECIALLY THE IRONY OF TALKING ABOUT HOCKEY RINKS DURING THIS WHOLE SITUATION.

I WILL JUST MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS.

I WILL SUPPORT HAVING THIS AS A FUTURE CONVERSATION.

I WANT TO SEE THE BUDGETARY IMPLICATIONS, THE LIABILITY AND THE LOGISTICS THAT WOULD BE AROUND THIS.

I DON'T SUPPORT TAKING AWAY THE FRAME LAKE RINK.

THERE'S TOO MUCH NOSTALGIA AND HISTORY AROUND THAT WHOLE SITUATION, BUT IT'S A GOOD FUTURE CONVERSATION.

THANK YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU.

WITH THAT, WE WILL ADD IT TO A FUTURE GPC.

JULY 8TH IS A LITTLE BOOKED, BUT WE'LL WE'LL CHAT ABOUT A FUTURE ONE.

COUNCILLOR ARDEN-SMITH.

THANK YOU. I'M JUST CURIOUS.

SO IN YOUR RESEARCH, DID YOU LOOK AT ANY OF THE BUDGETS WITH ANY OF THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT? AND IS THE BUDGET OF A DONATION OF 5 TO $10,000? WAS THAT FOR ONE RINK OR WAS THAT FOR MULTIPLE RINKS? SO THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.

SO IT DOES VARY BY COMMUNITY.

SOME COMMUNITIES JUST TRY AND DO IT ALL THEMSELVES.

SO ESPECIALLY KIND OF MORE SOUTHERN LIKE I'M FROM ONTARIO ORIGINALLY AND WHEREAS IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHITEHORSE MODEL, THEY DON'T REALLY PROVIDE ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR FLOODING. SO THAT'S IT.

AND EVEN THEN, I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, MOST THINGS ONLY NEED TO BE FLOODED A COUPLE TIMES OVER THE ENTIRE SEASON.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOUSEBOAT BAY RINK IS NEVER FLOODED.

RIGHT? IT'S JUST IT JUST THE EXISTING ICE GETS USED OVER AND OVER.

AND SO IT'S KIND OF A SLIDING SCALE.

SO I THINK I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE COULD DO IT HERE WITH ZERO FUNDING FROM THE CITY.

SO NOTHING EXCEPT FOR PERMISSION TO DEVELOP A LOT.

BECAUSE I'VE DONE IT ON RAT LAKE, RIGHT? I HAD NO EXTERIOR, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT NORTH WANTED TO FUND ME, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE IT ON BECAUSE AND SO I JUST DID IT OUT OF POCKET AND IT WAS NOT VERY MUCH MONEY.

THAT SAID, I THINK IF I COULD ONE THING TO STRESS IS THAT IF WE HAD A SPACE ON LAND, ON CITY OWNED LAND, IT WOULD BE IDEALLY WE COULD LEAVE A LOT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE.

SO THE BOARDS THE LIGHTS, BECAUSE THAT BECOMES VERY LABOR INTENSIVE.

AND THEN YOU NEED TO STORE THAT MATERIAL IN THE OFF SEASON.

SO IDEALLY IT'D BE A SPACE THAT'S UNDERUTILIZED ALL YEAR ROUND, WHICH SOME OF THE SPOTS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THEY ARE UNDERUTILIZED SPACES.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO ASK STAFF ABOUT WORKLOAD IN TERMS OF BRINGING FORWARD CONSIDERATIONS TO A FUTURE GPC.

MS. BASSI-KELLETT.

WELL, I THINK I RESPECTFULLY, I KNOW COUNCIL HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT WORKLOAD IN PUTTING TOGETHER THE 2024-2026 WORK PLAN.

SO IF SOMETHING IS ON THERE, WE'D NEED TO COME BACK AND RECOMMEND SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO COME OFF IF THIS WORK IS GOING TO PROCEED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH, I'D DEFINITELY BE CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT STAFF WOULD TAKE OFF IF THIS WERE GOING TO GO ON.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SEEING NOTHING FURTHER BUT HEARING LOOKING TO DISCUSS THIS, SPENCER WILL, WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED ON WHEN IT COMES FORWARD TO COMMITTEE.

AND THEN YOU'D BE FREE TO COME AND SPEAK AGAIN OR COME HEAR THE DISCUSSION.

SO WHAT? WHAT WOULD THE TIMELINE LIKE THAT WOULD BE LIKE A MONTH OR POSSIBLY END OF JULY OR END OF AUGUST.

SO WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED.

THANKS. YEAH. THANK YOU EVERYONE.

WITH THAT, THERE WERE NO ADMINISTRATIVE INQUIRIES FOR THE AGENDA.

ARE THERE ANY ADMINISTRATIVE INQUIRIES FROM THE FLOOR? SEEING NONE.

MOTION TO ADJOURN.

MOVE BY COUNCILLOR PAYNE.

WE CAN BE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.