Mar 25, 2024 Council Meetings

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AND I'LL CALL OUR COUNCIL MEETING FOR MONDAY, MARCH 25TH, 2024 TO ORDER AND I'LL PLEASE ASK COUNCILLOR MCGURK TO PLEASE READ THE OPENING STATEMENT.

[1. Councillor McGurk will read the Opening Statement.]

FROM THE TIME FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL, IT HAS BEEN THE TRADITIONAL LAND OF THE YELLOWKNIVES DENE FIRST NATION.

WE RESPECT THE HISTORIES, LANGUAGES AND CULTURES OF ALL OTHER INDIGENOUS PEOPLES, INCLUDING THE NORTH SLAVE METIS AND ALL OF THEIR FIRST NATIONS, METIS AND INUIT, WHOSE PRESENCE CONTINUES TO ENRICH OUR VIBRANT COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU.

THERE WERE NO AWARDS CEREMONIES OR PRESENTATIONS FOR THE AGENDA.

WE HAVE MINUTES OF COUNCIL FOR THE REGULAR MEETING OF MONDAY, MARCH 11TH, 2024 FOR ADOPTION.

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THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A SECONDER? DEPUTY MAYOR COCHRANE ANY ERRORS OR OMISSIONS? SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

NEXT WE HAVE DISCLOSURE OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN THE GENERAL NATURE THEREOF.

DOES ANY MEMBER HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST BEFORE COUNCIL TODAY? SEEING NONE.

THERE WAS NO CORRESPONDENCE, NOR WERE THERE ANY PETITIONS FOR THE AGENDA.

AND WE DO HAVE A STATUTORY PUBLIC HEARING.

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WE DID RECEIVE ONE WRITTEN SUBMISSION IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING BYLAW, AND I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE BYLAW? IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME TO THE PODIUM.

I'LL JUST READ OUT THE THE RULES.

AND SO NO PERSON SHALL SPEAK FOR MORE THAN TEN MINUTES UNLESS AN EXTENSION IS GRANTED BY THE RESOLUTION OF COUNCIL.

THOSE INDIVIDUALS OPPOSED TO THE BYLAW WILL BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK FIRST.

THEN WE'LL HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE BYLAW COME AND SPEAK.

AFTER A PERSON HAS SPOKEN ANY COUNCIL MEMBER MAY ASK THAT PERSON QUESTIONS FOLLOWED BY ANY OTHER PERSON PRESENT.

SO MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE CAN THEN GO ASK MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE A QUESTION, PROVIDED SUCH QUESTIONS ARE RELEVANT AND DIRECTED THROUGH TO ME AND ARE ASKED IN A COURTEOUS AND RESPECTFUL MANNER.

AFTER ALL, PERSONS WHO WISH TO SPEAK HAVE BEEN HEARD COUNCIL MAY ASK THE CITY MANAGER QUESTIONS OR AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE CITY MANAGER WILL ASK THE DIRECTORS IF SHE DOESN'T HAVE THE, THE ANSWERS.

ANY PERSON WHO HAS MADE A SUBMISSION SHALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO ANY INFORMATION.

SO THEN YOU'LL GET TO COME BACK UP TO THE PODIUM A SECOND TIME.

BUT AT THAT TIME, YOU'LL ONLY HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.

THEN I'LL OFFICIALLY CLOSE THE STATUTORY PUBLIC HEARING.

AND THEN WITH COUNCIL, WE WILL DECIDE WHETHER TO PROCEED WITH SECOND READING TO REQUEST A SUMMATION FROM ADMINISTRATION.

DEFER THE MEETING.

DEFER THE DEBATE TO A FUTURE MEETING.

SO WITH THAT I WILL ASK THE THE FIRST SPEAKER IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND IF YOU CAN JUST SAY YOUR NAME AND, AND THEN I'LL START THE TIMER. SO YOU'LL YOU'RE UP FIRST.

OH, SORRY. AND YOU'LL JUST. IF YOU PUSH THE BUTTON THAT LOOKS LIKE A FACE TALKING.

THERE YOU GO. YEP.

MY NAME IS ERIC ROBERTS AND I LIVE IN GRACE LAKE, AND I WANT TO KNOW WHY THEY'RE GOING TO PUT RV PARK OUT THERE.

WHY THEY ARE GOING TO? WELL, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SPEAK FOR THE THE PROPONENTS.

SO RIGHT NOW, COUNCIL IS JUST LISTENING TO IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT ABOUT I PERSONAL I DON'T WANT IT OUT THERE.

YOU KNOW. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY REASONS WHY YOU DON'T WANT IT OUT THERE THAT WE SHOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION? WELL, WE LIVE OUT THERE AND IT'S GOING TO BE TRAFFIC GOING OUT THERE.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE NICE.

AND AS FAR AS.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD? YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER? COUNCILLOR MCGURK.

OH, IF YOU WANT TO, WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO QUESTIONS? PERFECT IF YOU WANT TO COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM.

THANK YOU. I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THE WHAT YOUR CONCERN IS IT BEING A FIRE HAZARD WOULD BE.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

IS THERE COUNCILLOR PAYNE? THANK YOU [INAUDIBLE].

SO YOU LIVE IN THE ORIGINAL IN GRACE LAKE, IS THE GRACE LAKE BOULEVARD? THE FIRST ONE? YEAH.

SO YOU LIVE THERE MIDWAY UP THROUGH THERE? AROUND THERE. YOU GOT A FIRE PIT OUT BACK? YES. OKAY.

YOU'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT FIRES? I GOT A HOSE. YEAH, BUT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF WATER SOURCE OUT THERE.

THEY'RE NOT JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT POPCORN DRY.

RIGHT. SO I THINK YOU'RE AND YOU'RE PROBABLY CLOSE TO TWO KILOMETERS AWAY FROM WHERE THAT'S PROPOSED? WELL, TO PUT THE FIRE BREAKS IN THERE AND, AND THE FIRE WAS 35KM AWAY.

SO YEAH, BUT NOW WE'RE ALL SAFE FROM THE WORK, BUT WE JUST GET TO ASK QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW, NO DEBATE AMONGST THE SPEAKERS.

SO JUST QUESTIONS.

YEAH. I'M WONDERING WHAT YOUR CONCERN IS.

IS IT IS IT AN ACTUAL CONCERN THAT YOU'RE TRULY WORRIED ABOUT? IF THEY WERE GOING TO PUT AN RV PARK OUT, WHY WOULD WE WANT TO GIVE A CHANCE FOR EVERYBODY CAN BID ON IT OR WHATNOT.

JUST GIVE US THE ONES THAT WAS OUT THERE.

THEY ALREADY SAID IT.

THE RV PARK BEFORE ANYBODY KNEW.

I HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER? SEEING NONE.

ANYBODY WOULD LIKE US? YEP. IF YOU'D LIKE. YOU'RE AGAINST THE BYLAW.

YEP. PERFECT.

IF YOU WANT TO COME ON UP TO THE THE PODIUM.

AND IF YOU CAN JUST STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS THIS IS NEIL ROBERTS.

I ALSO LIVE ON 105 BRADEN BOULEVARD.

I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE FIRES THAT THAT ARE POTENTIAL.

WE HAD ONE BEFORE ON FRED HANEY THAT THEY HAD MULTIPLE FIRES FROM NEGLECT OR WHAT ODDS THE WHOEVER STARTED THEM.

AND THEN IT'S ALSO.

THE I WAS GOING TO SAY THE I'M CONCERNED THAT THEY NEGLECTED ALL CITY LIKE YOU GOT TO ASK FOR PERMISSION BEFORE YOU DEVELOP ANYTHING ON YOUR LAND.

AND I THROUGH GOING ON THE APP, GOOGLE APP.

AND YOU CAN LOOK OVERHEAD, YOU CAN SEE 20 ODD CAMPERS ALREADY PARKED THERE.

AND WHEN I DRIVE DOWN THE STREET TO LOOK AT IT, I HAVE A PRIVATE PROPERTY SIGN.

I'M NOT ALLOWED TO GO OUT THERE OR I GET TRASHED.

SO, LIKE, IT'S IT'S A PRIVATE IT'S ALREADY STARTED.

IT'S A PRIVATE LOT.

AND WHY, IF THEY COULD DO IT, WHY CAN'T WE DEVELOP OUR LAND HOWEVER WE WANT? AND AND YOU KNOW.

WHY BOTHER? WHY BOTHER GOING THROUGH THE CITY IF THEY CAN DO IT WHY CAN'T WE? THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER? COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN.

THANKS, MAYOR ALTY. MAYBE IT'S A POINT OF CLARIFICATION YOURSELF.

CAN WE ASK A QUESTION OF A CLARIFICATION POINT OF ADMIN NOW, OR DOES THAT HAVE TO WAIT TILL WE SPEAK TO THE BUYER? OKAY, COOL. UNFORTUNATELY I'LL HAVE TO WAIT TO ASK MY QUESTION.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER? SEEING NONE.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE MOTION OR THE BYLAW? SORRY. SHELDON BARNES AND I LIVE ON 123 BRADEN BOULEVARD.

NOW I JUST GOT TO DIRECT TO NEIL.

THAT PRIVATE SIGN YOU SEEN THERE? SWING THE GATE OPEN AND DRIVE ON.

THERE IS NOT A DAMN THING THEY CAN DO TO YOU.

AS TO THE OFFICIAL CITY WEBSITE.

THAT IS ALL MUNICIPAL PROPERTY.

YOU CAN DRIVE RIGHT OUT TO THAT TOWER.

[INAUDIBLE] SO THAT GATE IS THERE SOMEHOW.

NO NO NO NO.

IF THEY DID, IT WAS A MISTAKE.

THAT'S PRIVATE. THAT'S PUBLIC ROAD.

IF THE GATE IS LOCKED.

BUST IT OPEN. DRIVE ON.

THAT'S PUBLIC. THEY CAN'T STOP IT.

THAT'S NOT OUR FARMERS LAND.

NOW YOU'VE KNOWN ABOUT THE TRAILERS FOR NUMEROUS YEARS.

THEY'VE BEEN OUT THERE FOR 3 TO 4 YEARS ANYWAY.

YOU'VE ALREADY QUOTED THAT TO CABIN RADIO.

YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE PARK GOING OUT THERE? NOW I'M 50/50, 50% TOWARDS IT, 50% AGAINST IT.

NOW THE 50% TOWARDS IT.

HE'S GOING TO DO WHAT HE WANTS ANYWAY.

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OFFICIAL WEBSITE.

THAT PROPERTY WAS SURVEYED IN 1998 BY BRUCE ELCOCK.

NOW, IF YOU PULL UP A GOOGLE MAP AND PULL UP THE CITY'S OFFICIAL WEBSITE.

HE'S WAY OUT PAST HIS BOUNDARIES.

SO BEFORE ANYTHING IS BEING.

YES. NO, HE CAN DO IT.

HE CAN'T DO IT. LIKE I SAY, I'M 50/50.

HE'S GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY.

HE'S BEEN THERE FOR THREE, FOUR YEARS NOW.

YOU ALREADY KNOW ABOUT IT.

YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT ANYWAY.

SO IT'S GOING TO GO FORTH.

WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO GO FORTH BY ALL CHAMBER MEMBERS BECAUSE CHANGE ZONING BY LAW.

BIG DEAL. THAT'S ALL WE DO.

YOU'VE DONE IT NUMEROUS TIMES THROUGHOUT THE CITY ANYWAY.

JUST CHANGE THE ZONE.

RIGHT NOW YOU CAN'T.

I MEAN, I'M JUST GOING TO USE THAT ONE IN GENERAL.

THE CITY DIDN'T HAVE A CLUE THEY WERE PUTTING IN A 200 MAN CAMP.

EXCUSE ME.

NOBODY'S SEEN TRAILERS BEING SWUNG IN.

RIGHT. NOW YOU'RE FORCING THE HAND TO PULL THAT CAMP BACK BECAUSE THEY'RE 60FT ON CITY PROPERTY.

SO YOU JUST CHANGE THE ZONING BYLAWS.

ALL THAT ZONING BOULEVARD.

I'M GOING TO USE AN EXAMPLE.

THAT WAS ALL COMMERCIAL SLASH INDUSTRIAL RIGHT UP TO 2023.

IN 2024 YOU CHANGED TO MULTI-DWELLING SO YOU OPEN UP THE DOORS.

NOW, ANYBODY AND ANYBODY ANYWHERE IN THE DISTRICT IS GOING TO BE NEXT.

THERE'S 11 PEOPLE LIVING OUT THERE ILLEGALLY BECAUSE AS CITY SAYS, OH, YOU CAN'T LIVE OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL.

IT'S A FIRE HAZARD.

FIRE HAZARD. WHAT, BECAUSE YOU'RE LIVING NEXT TO BIG FUEL TANKS? THE HELL ARE WE LIVING IN NEXT TO KAM LAKE? WE'RE OKAY WITH IT.

YOU HAVE BIG, HUGE PROPANE TANKS.

YOU HAVE FUEL TANKS.

OKAY. WHAT'S NEXT? WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? THE CITY IS GOING TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO ANYWAY.

AND THEY HAVE BEEN. I'VE LIVED IN THIS CITY FOR OVER 30 YEARS.

I'VE NEVER SEEN SO MUCH CORRUPTION IN MY LIFE.

IN THE LAST 4 TO 5 YEARS, I HAVE NEVER SEEN SO MUCH CORRUPTION WITHIN THE CITY.

AND NOW YOU'RE ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS, PUBLIC SERVANTS.

LOOKING OUT FOR OUR BEST INTERESTS.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING? CHANGING BYLAWS CHANGING THIS, CHANGING THAT AT A WHIM FOR WHOSE BENEFIT? DEFINITELY NOT GROWING THE CITY IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

DEFINITELY NOT. I'VE BEEN THE LAST TWO AND A HALF WEEKS I'VE BEEN AT CITY HALL.

THEY KNOW ME QUITE WELL HERE.

LOOKING FOR PROPERTY.

THEY'RE SELLING PROPERTY THAT'S OUTRAGEOUS.

THERE'S NO NEED OF IT.

SO YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO DEVELOP THE CITY.

YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE A QUICK BUCK.

TO PAY BACK OUR 70 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS SWIMMING POOL.

THAT'S WAY OVER FUCKING BUDGET.

SORRY. MY LANGUAGE.

SORRY. SORRY. APOLOGIZE.

WAY OVER BUDGET FOR 20,000 PEOPLE.

WHO'S JUSTIFYING THAT IT'S NOW OVER $90 MILLION OR PUSHING $90 MILLION.

RIGHT. YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD.

OKAY. I'VE BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES TRYING TO GET INFORMATION ON HOW WE ARE.

WHERE ARE WE AT? WHERE ARE WE AT ON FIGURES? LIKE I SAID, I'VE LIVED IN THIS TOWN FOR 30 YEARS.

I KNOW A LOT OF CONSTRUCTERS, KNOW STEVE PAYNE QUITE WELL.

STEVE KNOWS ME.

SO WHY IS IT SO HARD TO GET INFORMATION? I COME IN THE OTHER DAY.

PRIME EXAMPLE.

THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE WORKING IN THE CITY OR SORRY WITHIN THIS BUILDING NOW COME IN THE OTHER DAY TO ASK TAXES ON A PROPERTY THAT I'M LOOKING AT AN ANGLE DISTRICT.

YOU'RE LIKE, OH, JESUS. SORRY.

BACK UP. YOU'RE ASKING THE WRONG PRICE.

YOU'RE ASKING $285 FOR A PIECE OF PROPERTY.

ZERO SERVICES.

ZERO. NO FIRE HYDRANTS, NO WATER, NO SEWAGE, NO NOTHING.

BLANK PIECE OF PROPERTY. OKAY, GREAT.

YOUR OFFICIAL CITY WEBSITE SAYS IT'S ONLY WORTH $183,000.

SO THEN SAYS, OKAY, FINE, FINE.

HOW MUCH IS THE PROPERTY TAX? I DON'T KNOW. WHAT?

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SHE NEVER DID TELL ME THE TAXES FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

SHE GAVE ME THE CALCULATION.

HERE, FIGURE IT OUT. WHAT? EXCUSE ME. NO, NO, NO, THIS IS YOUR JOB.

THIS IS WHAT WE PAY YOU.

IF WE ASK INFORMATION, YOU PROVIDE INFORMATION.

SIMPLE. CORRECT.

NOT HARD. SO NOW BACK TO [INAUDIBLE].

BACK TO THE PARK. LIKE I SAY, I'M 50% FOR IT, 50% AGAINST IT.

I LIVE RIGHT ON THE END.

THAT CAMPGROUND IS APPROXIMATELY GOING TO BE THE EDGE OF THE CAMPGROUND.

APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 600M AWAY.

NOTHING. THAT'S NOTHING.

NOW, LIKE I SAID, THE CAMPGROUND'S BEEN THERE FOR 3 TO 4 YEARS NOW.

IT'S A PRIVATE CAMPGROUND.

IT'S I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE THE PETITION IS PUT IN FORTH TO SAY IT'S A COMMERCIAL CAMPGROUND.

COME ON. AGAIN.

I'VE BEEN IN THIS CITY FOR 30 YEARS.

IT'S A PRIVATE CAMPGROUND.

WE ALL KNOW THEY'VE BEEN PARKING THERE FOR 3 TO 4 YEARS NOW.

I KNOW EVERYBODY THAT PARKS OUT THERE.

PUT IT IN, I DON'T CARE.

YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE ZONING BYLAW ANYWAY.

NOW, ONE MORE QUESTION I HAVE.

DOES HE OWN THE PROPERTY? CAN ANYBODY ANSWER THAT? LEASED. YEAH, IT'S A LEASED PROPERTY.

SO HE DOESN'T EVEN OWN THE PROPERTY.

IT'S LEASED.

SO ON LEASED PROPERTY.

DON'T YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF A LEASED PROPERTY? OF WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT DO.

THAT'S A QUESTION. CAN ANYBODY ANSWER? SO IT'S JUST IT'S NOT Q&A, BUT JUST WE'RE LOOKING TO HEAR FROM YOU.

SO WE'VE GOT YOU'VE GOT A MINUTE 45 LEFT.

OKAY. SO YOU GOT YOU GOT THERE LIVING OUT THERE FOR FREE.

OKAY. THEY'RE NOT PAYING ANY PROPERTY TAXES.

IT'S A LEASE. SO THEY'RE NOT PAYING PROPERTY TAXES.

YOU'RE NOT GETTING ZERO OUT OF IT.

RIGHT. HE'S RUNNING A BUSINESS OUT OF IT.

LIVING OUT THERE.

GOT A PARTIAL GOLF COURSE BUILT OUT THERE.

AND NOW HE WANTS PUT HIS OWN PERSONAL CAMPGROUND.

WHAT BENEFIT OF THE CITY IS THAT TO US AS TAXPAYERS? IS HE PUTTING ANYTHING BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY AS TAXES, TAX DOLLARS? NO, IT'S A LEASE.

HOW MUCH IS THIS LEASE? DOES ANYBODY KNOW? I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND OUT.

I CAN'T FIND OUT. SO.

LIKE I SAY, I'M 50/50.

PUT IT IN, I DON'T CARE.

YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE ZONING BYLAWS LIKE YOU'VE DONE ALL OVER THE CITY ANYWAY, BUT IT'S JUST ANOTHER SHOWING OF HOW CORRUPT THE CITY COUNCIL OF YELLOWKNIFE IS TODAY.

THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TRANSPARENCY.

THERE'S NO TRANSPARENCY.

BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, I'VE BEEN WITH CITY HALL HERE NUMEROUS, NUMEROUS TIMES.

I'VE TALKED SO MANY PEOPLE OUT OF BUILDING HERE.

IT'S ASTRONOMICAL.

LIKE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE DEALING WITH INSPECTORS.

YOU DON'T WANT TO BE DEALING WITH ANYBODY.

SO THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER? JUST TO NOTE, TODAY IS SO WHENEVER WE WOULD GET A REQUEST FROM SOMEBODY, ADMINISTRATION DOES HAVE TO BRING IT FORWARD.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE.

SO APPRECIATE YOU AS WELL AS THE OTHER RESIDENTS COMING TONIGHT TO SHARE.

AND THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE OUR DECISION BASED ON WHAT WE HEAR, PLUS ON THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED IN OUR OUR PAST MEMOS.

SO AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NOBODY'S GOT A QUESTION FOR ME.

COUNCILLOR FEQUET.

THANKS, SHELDON. JUST TO CLARIFY, I GUESS SO.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY AS GOOD AS YOU DO.

SO THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR PERSPECTIVE.

SO ASSUMING SOMEBODY WAS LEASING LAND AND THEY WERE OPERATING WITHIN ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THEIR LEASE YOU DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC ISSUE IN GENERAL WITH PUTTING A CAMPGROUND ON A LEASE IF IT'S A PERMITTED USE, AND THE ZONING ALLOWS IT, AND THAT PERSON IS ACTUALLY FOLLOWING ALL THE THE RULES THAT ARE SET IN PLACE.

THEY'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES NOW TO LEASE.

YEAH. SO THAT'S KIND OF MY QUESTION.

IS IT ABOUT THE RULES.

WHICH NOT SAYING THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN IS IT, IS IT THAT AND THE COMPLIANCE PART OR IS IT THE CAMPGROUND ITSELF.

OH, I COULD GIVE.

4 YEARS NOW. THEY WANT TO TUNE UP THEIR TUNES.

BLAST YOUR MUSIC AT 11:00, IT'S QUIET TIME.

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YEAH. AND THEY WILL FOLLOW THE BYLAWS, ITS NOISE BYLAWS.

7:00 IN THE MORNING OR, SORRY, 11:00 AT NIGHT TILL 6:59 IN THE MORNING.

THERE'S NO IT'S NO DIFFERENT.

I LISTEN TO THE CRUSHER AT ACES QUARRY.

THAT'S THAT'S WHITE NOISE.

SO I COULD CARE IF THE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO STATE A FACT THAT THE CITY CHANGES ZONING BYLAWS ON A WHIM.

TO SUIT WHOEVER DECIDES TO DO WHATEVER THEY PLEASE ON THAT PROPERTY.

LIKE I SAY, I USED BOULEVARD [INAUDIBLE].

SORRY. USING A DRIVE AS AN EXAMPLE.

WHO IN GOD'S NAME DIDN'T REALIZE THEY WERE PUTTING IN A 200 MAN CAMP? I'M SURE YOU ALL GO OUT.

AND TALK TO THE PUBLIC.

I'M SURE YOU DO.

[INAUDIBLE] THAT'S ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS GO EVERY SINGLE MORNING.

STEVE KNOWS EVERY SINGLE MORNING.

GO TIM HORTONS. AND YOU GOT THE OLD BOYS CLUB SITTING IN THE CORNER.

THEY KNOW EVERY SINGLE THING THAT'S HAPPENING IN THIS CITY BEFORE THE CITY EVEN KNOWS.

BEFORE ANYBODY KNOWS THEY KNOW.

THERE'S AN APPLICATION PUT FORTH RIGHT NOW FOR A 400 MAN CAMP IN ENGLAND DISTRICT.

SO THERE YOU GO. YOU OPEN THE DOORS.

YOU ALREADY OPENED THE DOORS ANYWAY.

BECAUSE CHANGING THE BYLAWS, ZONING BYLAWS AND USING YOUR DRIVE.

SO, YEAH. YOU WANT TO PUT THE PARK IN? GIVE HER BEFORE YOU DO THAT PROPERTY NEEDS TO BE RESURVEYED AND HE STAYS WITHIN THOSE BOUNDARIES.

HIS GOLF COURSE IS WAY PAST IT.

I'M JUST USING GOOGLE MAPS AS A COMPARISON.

I MEAN, YOU'RE IT'S HARD TO DISTINGUISH.

IT'S RIGHT OVER TO THE SIDE OF THE LAKE.

HE EVEN HAS HIS OWN BOAT DOCK THERE.

RIGHT. HIS OWN PRIVATE LAKE.

DA DA DA DA DA. SO, NUMBER ONE, HE'S NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO BE AROUND THAT WATER.

IT'S GOT TO BE A 100 METER OR, SORRY, 30 METER, 100 FOOT SETBACK FROM ANY WATER.

THAT'S FEDERAL REGULATIONS.

SO THANKS. THANKS FOR THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

SEEING NOTHING FURTHER.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FURTHER WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE BYLAW? PERFECT. IF YOU WANT TO COME ON UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

OH, SORRY. TWO SECONDS. WE'LL JUST TURN ON THE MIC.

HELLO, MY NAME IS ANDREW TUCKER.

I LIVE AT 119 BRADEN BOULEVARD.

SO THIS CAMPGROUND ESSENTIALLY WOULD VIRTUALLY BE IN MY BACKYARD.

I'M OPPOSED TO THAT.

FIRSTLY, BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY KNOW THERE'S NOT ENOUGH DETAILS ABOUT IT.

FIRST, IN THE ARTICLE, IT SAID IT WAS AT THE END OF BRADON BOULEVARD, WHICH I GUESS LEARNING OR TALKING TO OTHER PEOPLE, I FOUND OUT, IS THERE'S AN ACTUAL DIFFERENT ENTRANCE TO GET IN THERE. SO THAT'S THAT ALLEVIATES A BIT OF CONCERN ON MY PART.

BUT STILL, FOR THE ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP PREVIOUSLY, THE FIRE CONCERNS, THE NOISE, ALL THAT STUFF.

I CAN'T IMAGINE ANY RESIDENT THAT WOULD WANT A CAMPGROUND IN THEIR OWN BACKYARD, SO THAT'S WHY I'M OPPOSED TO IT.

THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER? YES. ANDREW, THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE RECOGNIZING THE ZONING BYLAW RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN HAVE A QUARRY OR YOU CAN HAVE COMMERCIAL RECREATION.

SO, LIKE SNOWMOBILES, DO YOU FIND THOSE USES WHICH ARE ALLOWED MORE DISRUPTIVE THAN THE CAMPGROUND? IT'S HARD TO SAY, BECAUSE, LIKE, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THERE WAS A CAMPGROUND BACK THERE ALREADY.

OR IF PEOPLE USE IT. I HAVEN'T LIVED IN MY HOUSE LONG ENOUGH TO BE THROUGH THE SUMMER MONTHS AND NOTICE IF THERE'S ANY NOISE.

THE SUMMER IN YELLOWKNIFE IS TYPICALLY WHEN PEOPLE LIKE TO PARTY AND STAY UP LATE.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL IN THE SUMMERTIME, SO I RECOGNIZE THAT AND WANT TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

I JUST DON'T THINK A CAMPGROUND SHOULD BE NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA, THAT'S ALL.

OKAY, SO NOW I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE NOISE WOULD CARRY THAT FAR.

YOU HEAR THE DOG LOTS, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN 600M AWAY, CLEAR AS DAY AT NIGHT TIME.

SO I'M ASSUMING YOU THAT NOISE WOULD BE AN ISSUE FROM THE CAMPGROUNDS.

BUT LIKE I SAID, I HAVEN'T LIVED OUT THERE LONG ENOUGH IN THE SUMMERTIME TO HEAR IT, BUT YEAH.

THANK YOU.

ANYTHING FURTHER? SEEING NONE ANYBODY FURTHER LOOKING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE BYLAW? SO WE JUST HAVE TO DO ONE ROUND.

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SO NEXT WE'LL DO FINAL CLOSING ROUNDS.

SO THE FIRST SPEAKER, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING FURTHER? NO. OKAY.

SECOND SPEAKER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME ON UP THIS TIME IT'S JUST TWO MINUTES.

JUST LIKE ONE I BUILT.

MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.

I DID A BUILDERS MORTGAGE ON GRACE LAKE, AND I'VE BEEN.

IT'S BEEN HELL TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH EVERYONE THERE AND WHERE I'M NOT FINISHED IN TIME.

THEY'RE WANTING TO WITHHOLD MONEY FROM ME IN ORDER TO FINISH MY PROJECT AND MY HOUSE.

AND MY QUESTION IS, WITH THEM ALREADY DOING IT FOR MULTIPLE YEARS, IS, ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO PENALIZE THEM FOR BREAKING YOUR LAWS? THANK YOU.

ANYTHING? ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER? THANK YOU.

SHELDON ANYTHING FURTHER? YEAH. I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE WHO'S GOING TO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION.

YAY OR NAY.

PERFECT. WE'LL, WE'LL OUTLINE NEXT STEPS AFTER THIS.

ANDREW. ANYTHING FURTHER? LAST TWO MINUTES. SEEING NONE SEEING NOBODY NEW IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR.

SO EVERYBODY'S BEEN HEARD.

DO COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ADMINISTRATION? GOT COUNCILLOR WARBURTON.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, AND THANKS EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT.

I LOVE SEEING PEOPLE COMING TO THESE MEETINGS.

WE OFTEN DON'T GET FOLKS HERE.

FOR ADMIN. I GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS HERE.

SO IT WAS MENTIONED THERE'S THAT GATE ON THE CITY ROAD.

I'M ASSUMING AS PART OF ANY PERMIT THAT GATE MITIGATING FIRE RISK ETC., ETC., THAT WOULD ALL BE PART OF THE PERMIT, RIGHT? CORRECT. MS. BASSI-KELLETT. MISS WHITE, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

SO IF THERE IS AN APPROVAL OF THE ZONING BYLAW AMENDMENT, THE NEXT STEP IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE CONDITIONS TO ADDRESS SUCH THINGS AS ACCESS FIRE PITS, SERVICING, ETC.

SO THEY WOULD ALL BE CONDITIONS OF THAT DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL.

AND THE DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL HAS A ONE YEAR TIMELINE TO COMPLY.

THANK YOU. AND JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY.

SO LEASE LOTS.

THEY PAY TAXES. YES OR NO? MS. BASSI-KELLETT. MISS WHITE.

THANK YOU. SO IT IS OUTLINED IN BOTH OUR FEES AND CHARGES BYLAW AS WELL AS OUR LAND ADMIN BYLAW DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF LEASE THAT WE HAVE WHAT THE FEES ARE THAT THEY PAY.

SO IN THIS CASE IT IS 5% OF THE ASSESSED VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IS THE LEASE RATE.

AND THEN THERE IS THE TAXATION PORTION AS WELL.

OKAY. THANKS.

POLICE AND TAXES.

THAT'S GREAT. I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING I HAVE FOR THIS ROUND.

THANKS. THANK YOU.

COUNCILLOR MCGURK. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.

ECHOED THE SENTIMENTS OF COUNCILLOR WARBURTON.

QUESTION TO ADMINISTRATION.

ARE THERE ANY ISSUES WITH PEOPLE USING LEASED PROPERTY FOR PRIVATE CAMPING? MS. BASSI-KELLETT.

MISS WHITE. SO THE APPLICATION IS FOR COMMERCIAL CAMPGROUND.

SORRY. MAYBE I'M MISUNDERSTANDING.

THE SEVERAL SPEAKERS HAVE NOTED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN ONGOING, OR THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PRIVATELY CAMPING IN THIS ON THE PROPERTY.

I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES WITHIN BYLAW THAT SOMEBODY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PRIVATELY CAMP ON THEIR PROPERTY.

AND THIS IS NOT COMMERCIAL OPERATION, BUT PRIVATE.

GOTCHA. MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU.

I'LL ASK MISS FOYE IF SHE CAN WEIGH IN.

I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.

SO WHEN THE LEASE CAME DUE FOR POTENTIAL RENEWAL LAST YEAR, WE ALWAYS DO SITE INSPECTION.

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SO WE OUTLINED WHAT THAT WAS AND THE APPROXIMATE ADDITIONAL STEPS, SHOULD IT BE APPROVED THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.

SO WHEN THE PREVIOUS USE OF CAMPING WAS IDENTIFIED, IT WAS REQUESTED TO BE STOPPED.

THANK YOU. WOULD ADDRESSING THE ZONING AND ALLOWING THIS ACTIVITY CHANGE THEIR LEASE OR TAX RATE? MS. BASSI-KELLETT. MISS WHITE.

THANK YOU. SO THE LEASE NEEDS TO BE AMENDED, SO THAT WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL STEP.

IF IF THE ZONING BYLAW AMENDMENT IS APPROVED, THEN YES, A CHANGE TO THE LEASE IS REQUIRED, WHICH POTENTIALLY COULD CHANGE THE FEES BECAUSE IT'S BASED OFF ASSESSED VALUE, WHICH MEANS THERE'S DIFFERENT USE ON IT.

SO POTENTIALLY, YES, THERE COULD BE A CHANGE COMING FORWARD.

THE PROCESS HAS TO BE FOLLOWED ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN.

THANKS, MAYOR ALTY.

OVERALL, JUST THINKING THROUGH THIS PIECE.

WOULD IT MEAN HAD HAD THE UNAUTHORIZED CAMPGROUND NOT BEEN HAD A STOP USE ORDER PUT AGAINST IT WOULD ADMIT, AND THIS WAS A FRESH APPLICATION.

WITHOUT THAT HISTORY, WOULD ADMIN STILL BE RECOMMENDING THIS ZONING CHANGE TO BYLAW TO COUNCIL? MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COMMERCIAL RECREATION FITS WITHIN THE KAM LAKE SOUTH DESIGNATION IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN.

I'LL ASK MISS WHITE IF SHE HAS MORE THAT SHE'D LIKE TO ADD.

THANK YOU. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY A GREAT QUESTION.

BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT USES ONGOING OUT IN THIS DESIGNATION.

THIS SITE SPECIFICALLY, IF IT WAS COMING FORWARD NOT TO FIX AN EXISTING SITUATION, WE WOULD LOOK AT IT FIRST IN TERMS OF DOES IT MEET THE POLICY OBJECTIVES OF THE DESIGNATION, DOES IT COMPLY WITH OR IS IT ABLE TO COMPLY WITH OTHER CONDITIONS? SO AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ACCESS, FIRE SERVICING, ETC.? THE OTHER THING THAT WE'LL LOOK AT IS IS IT COMPATIBLE WITH THE OTHER USES ON THE SITE? SO THE CURRENT PERMITTED USE ON THIS LEASED SITE IS FOR AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES.

SO WE WOULD LOOK AT IS THERE ANY IMPACTS NEGATIVE AND POSITIVE ON THAT.

SO FOR THIS SPECIFIC SITE AND EVERYONE HAS DONE SITES SITE BY SITE WE LIKELY WOULD APPROVE RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO COUNCIL.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THERE ARE OTHER SITES IN THE SAME DESIGNATION WHERE THIS WOULD NOT BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BECAUSE OF EXISTING ACTIVE USE.

SO QUARRY AND A PIT ON THE SAME SITE AS A CAMPGROUND.

PROBABLY NOT A GREAT IDEA FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, AND WE WOULD LAY THAT OUT IN THE PLANNING ANALYSIS AND THE JUSTIFICATION REPORT THAT'S PROVIDED WITH THIS ZONING AMENDMENT APPLICATION.

SO IT IS DONE SITE SPECIFIC, BUT IT'S TIED DIRECTLY TO THE POLICIES THAT ARE IN PLACE THROUGH THE COMMUNITY PLAN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THAT CLARIFICATION AND AND BACKGROUND AND POLICY BASIS FOR THAT.

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THE PROPERTY WAS SURVEYED? WAS IT 1998, AS WAS DISCUSSED DURING THE PRESENTATIONS TO COUNCIL THERE? MISS BASSI-KELLETT, MISS WHITE, SO I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT MOST RECENT DATE, BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS, WHEN WE WERE ON SITE LAST YEAR, THE SIZE OF THE LEASE AND LEGAL CAN STOP ME IF I'M GOING TOO FAR.

THE SIZE OF THE LEASE HAS BEEN DECREASED FROM WHAT THE ORIGINAL LEASE WAS.

SO THERE WAS A PREVIOUS LEASE WHICH WAS RENEWED LAST YEAR, AND THE SIZE.

SO THE TOTAL AREA WAS MUCH LARGER THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING LEASED NOW.

AND SO THE I IDENTIFIED LAND AS PART OF THE SCHEDULE TO THIS BYLAW REPRESENTS THE CURRENT LEASED AREA, WHICH WAS RECENTLY CHANGED AS OF LAST YEAR. THANK YOU.

OKAY. PERFECT.

AND I THINK THIS QUESTION MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED BY COUNCILLOR WARBURTON, BUT I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK IT AGAIN ANYWAY.

SO APOLOGIES. BUT IF COUNCIL APPROVES THIS BYLAW, THE PERMIT OF THE APPLICANT STILL HAS TO BE APPROVED, CORRECT? MS. BASSI-KELLETT YES, MISS WHITE? YES. SO A DEVELOPMENT PERMIT WILL BE REQUIRED AND A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH WOULD BE THEN ALSO REGISTERED AS WELL AS AN UPDATE TO THE LEASE, BECAUSE THE USE HAS TO BE ADDED, HAS TO BE ADDED TO THE LEASE AS WELL.

THANK YOU. PERFECT.

THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION AGAIN TOO, SO THAT ALL OF THOSE ADDITIONAL BOXES HAVE TO BE CHECKED.

I SEE THE HEAD NODDING. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND LAST QUESTION IS WHEN THE STOP USE ORDER WAS APPLIED LAST YEAR, WERE THERE ANY WERE ONE OR WAS THERE ANY POTENTIAL AND THEN WERE THERE ANY FINANCIAL PENALTIES APPLIED AT

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I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE WE CAN GET BACK TO COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR PAYNE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

JUST A QUESTION FOR ADMIN.

IS IT COMMON TO CHANGE, LIKE IN WITHIN THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE AND THE CITY ITSELF? IT'S COMMON TO CHANGE ZONING DEPEND ON CURRENT NEED DEPENDING ON CURRENT NEED AND DEMAND FROM EITHER INDUSTRY OR CITIZENS.

I THINK WE DID 72 DIFFERENT ZONING CHANGES WITH OUR LAST BYLAW.

MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT IS AS LONG AS THINGS ARE WITHIN THE OVERALL PARAMETERS OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN.

BUT I'LL ASK MISS WHITE TO ELABORATE.

THANK YOU. YEAH, IT'S A MECHANISM THAT'S IN PLACE FOR EXACTLY THESE REASONS WHERE SOMETIMES AND THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE WHERE WE HAVE COMMERCIAL RECREATION IS ALLOWED, BUT BECAUSE CAMPGROUND IS SPECIFICALLY DEFINED SEPARATELY.

THAT IS BEING REQUESTED TO BE ADDED, WHICH IS A SIMILAR USE TO A COMMERCIAL RECREATION, BUT NOT EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

SO YES, ZONING BYLAW AMENDMENTS ARE COMMON, NOT JUST IN THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE, BUT IT'S GOOD LAND USE PLANNING PRACTICE, SO IT'S ON A SITE SPECIFIC BASIS. YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND REVIEWING THAT SITE SPECIFICALLY IN CONSIDERATION OF ALL THE OTHER USES IN AND AROUND THE AREA AS WELL.

AND IT'S A PROCESS, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN PLACE AND IT IS PUBLIC FOR THIS EXACT REASON.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND AND THIS WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED CORRUPT IN ANY WAY TO APPROVE THIS BYLAW CHANGE OR THIS ZONING CHANGE.

WE DO HAVE TO FOLLOW ALL OUR, OUR BYLAWS.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF REZONING IS A DEVELOPMENT APPEAL PROCESS, BUT MISS BASSI-KELLETT CAN ELABORATE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S ALWAYS A LOT OF CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE HAVE, AND IT'S VERY, VERY GOOD TO HAVE THEM AIRED OUT.

WE'RE WORKING VERY HARD TO FOLLOW DUE PROCESS.

WHEN WE FIND THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE DONE THAT ARE NOT FOLLOWING PROCESS, WE WORK HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BRING PEOPLE INTO COMPLIANCE.

SO WE'VE DONE THAT IN THIS CASE.

AND NOW THE PROCESS UNFOLDS TO SEE IF THIS IS A LEGITIMATE USE.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND HAVE WE HAD ANY NOISE COMPLAINTS FROM THAT PROPERTY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD KNOW OFFHAND? MS. BASSI-KELLETT. MISS WHITE.

SO IN CIRCULATING THE APPLICATION WE DO AN INTERNAL CIRCULATION AS WELL TO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

AND NOTHING HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED.

IF COUNCIL DIRECTED, WE COULD DOUBLE CHECK THAT, BUT NOTHING HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED TO DATE.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. AND IN ADDRESSING SOME CONCERNS OF OF FIRE, WILL THERE BE SOME IF THIS IF THIS GETS APPROVED, WILL THERE BE SOME SORT OR SOME FORM OF FIRE SUPPRESSION, WHETHER IT BE WATER TANKS OR OR WHATEVER IS, IS WOULD THAT BE REQUIRED OUT THERE WITH THIS CAMPGROUND? MS. BASSI-KELLETT. MISS WHITE.

THANK YOU. SO WE TRY TO ADDRESS THAT IN THE PLANNING JUSTIFICATION REPORT THAT CAME WITH THIS.

WE WOULD WORK WITH PUBLIC SAFETY AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO ENSURE AND MAYBE THE DIRECTOR WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK MORE ABOUT FIRE PITS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THERE ARE SPECIFIC PROCESS THAT YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH FOR THAT.

SO AS A CONDITION OF DEVELOPMENT, WE WILL WORK AND DO OUR BEST TO PUT IN PLACE REQUIREMENTS SO THAT THE USE OF THE CAMPGROUND IS AS SAFE AS IT CAN BE. HUMAN ERROR IS WHAT IT IS.

BUT THAT IS OUR GOAL WHEN WE PUT CONDITIONS IN PLACE ON DEVELOPMENT PERMITS.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANOTHER DIRECTOR MAYBE WANTS TO SPEAK TO THAT SPECIFIC PROCESS.

MR. MCLEAN, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

SO FIRE PITS, THERE ARE REGULATIONS IN OUR FIRE AND PROTECTIVE SERVICES BYLAW WHICH OUTLINES THE SIZE, DIMENSIONS, SCOPE OF WHAT YOU CAN BURN.

WHEN IT COMES TO THIS AREA, WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM THE TERRITORIAL PARKS, BECAUSE IN THE TERRITORIAL PARKS FIRE PIT IS MANAGED BY THE PARK ATTENDANTS, AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE PARKS OFFICERS WHO REGULARLY AND ROUTINELY GO THROUGH PARKS TO MAKE SURE THAT CAMPERS ARE ADHERING TO THOSE RULES.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT ANOMALY, OF COURSE, BECAUSE IT'S PRIVATE.

SO WE'D HAVE TO CLEARLY DEFINE WHAT THE RESPONSIBILITY PARAMETERS ARE TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE UTILIZING THE SPACE AND ARE USING FIRE PITS RESPONSIBLY IN THE AREA BEING DOWN IN THAT AREA SEVERAL TIMES IN IN

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WITH THE CURRENT DROUGHT CODE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WATER IS LEFT AROUND THAT AREA, HOW DRY THAT AREA IS.

BUT REGARDLESS, AS PART OF OUR FIRST RESPONSE OUT TO ANY AREA, WE SEND ONE OF OUR WATER TENDERS.

SO THERE WOULD BE A RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO PROVIDE SOME TYPE OF WATER ON SITE THERE. AND THEN FROM A FIRE RESPONSE, WE WOULD HAVE OUR TENDERS AS PART OF A FIRST RESPONSE UNIT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I'M SURE THAT THAT WILL HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONCERN AROUND THE FIRES IN THAT AREA.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR FEQUET.

THANKS, MADAM CHAIR.

A FEW QUESTIONS.

ARE THERE ANY APPROVED FIRE PITS AT THAT LOCATION? MS. BASSI-KELLETT. MR. MCLEAN, WOULD YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THIS? THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.

I CAN GO INTO THE DATABASE AND CURRENTLY RUN IF THERE IS ANY APPROVED PITS IN THAT AREA, BUT I WOULDN'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

THANK YOU. THANKS.

AND YES, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL INFORMATION IF IT COULD BE TRACKED DOWN.

NEXT QUESTION WAS THE SITE INSPECTION THAT TOOK PLACE AS PART OF THE LEASE RENEWAL PROCESS.

I THINK YOU SAID 2023.

WAS THAT THE FIRST TIME THE CITY WAS MADE AWARE OF THE USES OF THE AT THIS LOCATION THAT WERE NOT IN LINE WITH THOSE APPROVED AND ALLOWED BY THE LEASE? MS. BASSI-KELLETT. MISS WHITE.

SO THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE WERE ON SITE AND ACTUALLY ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE USE THAT WAS THERE.

WE HEARD THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE I GUESS YOU COULD SAY SO.

PRIOR TO THE LEASE, WE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH THE LEASEE TO GET OUT THERE AHEAD OF IT AND HAVE A LOOK.

SO THE LEASE EXPIRED IN OCTOBER, SO I THINK WE WERE THE FIRST TIME WE WERE OUT THERE WAS IN THE SPRING.

AND THEN AGAIN I BELIEVE IT WAS IN JULY AND I COULD CHECK THOSE DATES.

SO YES.

THANK YOU. HAVE THERE BEEN ANY COMPLIANCE CONCERNS WITH THE CURRENT LEASEE, OR IS THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION TYPICALLY MADE PUBLIC, OR IS IT TYPICALLY CONFIDENTIAL? MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE DON'T TYPICALLY SHARE A LOT OF SPECIFIC INFORMATION ABOUT SPECIFIC LEASES AND THEIR COMPLIANCE.

I'LL ASK MISS WHITE IF SHE'S ANYTHING SHE'D LIKE TO ADD.

SO SIMILAR TO MY PREVIOUS ANSWER, I'M NOT SURE, AND I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO COUNCIL ON WHAT WE CAN OR CANNOT SHARE ABOUT A LEASEE.

WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT THE LEASE HAS DECREASED IN SIZE, AND SO WHAT MAY BE LAND THAT WAS USED PREVIOUS IS NOT TO BE USED GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU.

THANKS. AND LOOKING BACK AT THE MATERIALS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL LAST WEEK, APOLOGIES I WASN'T THERE, WITH THE FAMILY ON MARCH BREAK.

MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE LEASE AGREEMENT THAT WAS IN THAT PACKAGE IS THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT LEASES CAN BE TERMINATED IS FOR USES OTHER THAN THOSE THAT ARE APPROVED.

IS THAT TRUE? IS MY UNDERSTANDING CORRECT, MISS BASSI-KELLET? MISS WHITE? YES, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANKS. THAT'S VERY HELPFUL.

COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT.

YEAH. THIS WAS RAISED BY A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND JUST CURIOUS TO HEAR FROM ADMIN IF THEY HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT SORT OF SETTING A PRECEDENT THAT PEOPLE CAN GO AHEAD WITH A NON PERMITTED USE AND THEN SORT OF LIKE ASK FOR PERMISSION AFTER THE FACT.

ULTIMATELY, IT COMES DOWN TO COUNCIL'S APPROVAL ON THIS.

SO COUNCIL'S POLITICAL JUDGMENT ON WHETHER THEY WANT TO DO THAT.

BUT MS. BASSI-KELLETT.

I'LL ASK MISS WHITE IF SHE'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO EXPERIENCE AN EXPERIENCE ON THIS.

WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS COMPLIANCE AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH THE RESOURCES WE HAVE, WHICH ARE REALLY FOCUSING ON ENSURING THAT OVERALL PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT GOALS ARE BEING MET.

I'LL ASK HER IF SHE HAS ANYTHING SHE'D LIKE TO ADD.

ALL I WOULD ADD IS WHEN WE BRING FORWARD POLICY DOCUMENTS LIKE THE COMMUNITY PLAN OR BYLAWS, WHETHER IT'S LAND ADMIN, ZONING, ANYTHING TO DO WITH DEVELOPMENT, WHEN WE REVIEW THEM, WHEN COUNCIL REVIEWS THEM, TO LOOK AT IT WITH MANY DIFFERENT LENSES, TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS ABLE TO BE COMPLIED WITH.

IN THE MAJORITY OF THE CASES, AND HOPEFULLY ZONING BYLAWS AND ENFORCEMENT ARE THE ONE OFF EXCEPTION BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE DO EASILY FOLLOW THE BYLAWS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. AND ARE THERE ANY ARE WE NOT AT THE STAGE YET, OR ARE THERE CONDITIONS WHERE THINKING ABOUT PUTTING ON A DEVELOPMENT PERMIT OR NOT NOT AT THAT STAGE YET?

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THAT WILL COME SUBSEQUENTLY.

I'LL ASK MISS WHITE IF SHE'D LIKE TO ELABORATE.

NO THAT ANSWERS IT. THANK YOU.

IT'S PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT PROCESS BECAUSE ADMIN WON'T GET TO THAT STAGE IF COUNCIL IS GOING TO STOP IT HERE.

BUT IF WE APPROVE THE PERMIT, THEN ADMIN DOES ALL THEIR TECHNICAL WORK AND ANALYSIS AND ADDS ANY CONDITIONS THAT THEY THEY SEE FIT.

THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR COCHRANE, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.

AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE PRESENTERS HERE THIS EVENING.

I COULD SEE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE THAT SOME OF THE INFORMATION WAS ONLY GATHERED THROUGH THE ARTICLES WRITTEN BY SOME OF OUR LOCAL MEDIA ON THIS. WHERE IN THE WEBSITE WILL THEY FIND THE GOVERNMENT'S PRIORITIES AGENDA FOR MARCH 11TH, 2024? THANK YOU SO MUCH, MISS MS. BASSI-KELLETT. A BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE INFORMATION ON THIS APPLICANT WAS LOCATED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT COULD BE FOUND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE UNDER THE COUNCIL AGENDA SECTION.

THANK YOU AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IS IT ALSO POSSIBLE, IF THE PUBLIC REQUEST TO GET PRINTED COPIES OF THIS THROUGH THE CLERK'S OFFICE OR EXECUTIVE ASSISTANTS, IF THEY SO CHOSE? MISS BASSI-KELLETT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE CAN DO THAT.

WE LIKE TO DO THINGS ELECTRONICALLY AND BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE PRINT COPIES AT A SMALL FEE FOR THE PRINTING COSTS.

THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

SECOND ROUND OF COUNCILLOR FEQUET.

THANKS, MADAM CHAIR.

TWO MORE FOR ADMIN.

IS PAST PERFORMANCE OF A LESSEE A FACTOR THAT THE CITY IS ALLOWED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN CONSIDERING A REQUEST SUCH AS THIS? MISS BASSI-KELLETT. MISS WHITE.

I WOULD SAY THAT'S A DECISION FOR COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. THANKS.

AND THE NEXT QUESTION IF THE CHANGE OF THE ZONING BYLAW DOES GO AHEAD AND THERE IS A DIFFERENT LEASE AND TAX RATE FOR THIS COMMERCIAL CAMPGROUND.

BECAUSE THESE USES WERE ALREADY IN EFFECT.

CAN THE CITY CHARGE THAT DIFFERENCE IN FEES RETROACTIVELY? MISS BASSI-KELLETT.

MISS WHITE. THAT MAY BE A LEGAL QUESTION.

I'LL TAKE A QUICK SPIN AT IT, WHICH IS IF A USE IS NOT PERMITTED AND NOT IDENTIFIED IN THE LEASE, THEN WE COULDN'T CHARGE FOR IT.

BUT THAT WOULD BE MY PLANNING OPINION, NOT A CONTRACT OPINION.

THANK YOU. I GUESS JUST TO FOLLOW UP COULD THAT BE A CONDITION OF A DEVELOPMENT PERMIT? MISS BASSI-KELLETT? MISS WHITE. SO THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT IS UNDER THE ZONING BYLAW.

LEASES ARE NOT UNDER THE ZONING BYLAW.

SO ANY TERMS AND FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS OF A LEASE WOULD HAVE TO BE UNDER THE BYLAW IN WHICH THE LEASE WAS SIGNED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCILLOR MCGURK. JUST RECOGNIZING THAT A LOT OF RESIDENTS HAVE ISSUED CONCERN OR EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT MORE OR LESS CHECKS AND BALANCES, ENSURING THAT THIS OPERATION IS STAYS WITHIN ITS LEASED PROPERTY LINES. I'M WONDERING SORRY, I'M WONDERING IF WHAT ARE THE CHECKS AND BALANCES TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE STAYING WITHIN THEIR LEASED PROPERTY AND IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO SORT OF ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS? MISS BASSI-KELLETT.

MISS WHITE. SO AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT PROCESS, WE WOULD BE OUT ON SITE IN ORDER TO SATISFY CONDITIONS, USUALLY WHERE WE REQUIRE EITHER SECURITY DEPOSITS. SO THERE'S MONETARY AMOUNTS THAT COME FORWARD TO OUR USUALLY THERE'S INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS.

IT'S NOT A CHEAP ENDEAVOR FOR DEVELOPMENT IN GENERAL.

IS IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT AS WELL AS THERE'S NEIGHBORS COMPLAINTS.

SO IF THERE'S A COMPLAINT, THEN WE COULD FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

BUT IN ORDER TO SIGN OFF ON THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, WE WOULD GO OUT ON THE SITE TO ENSURE THAT X, Y, Z CONDITION THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE HAS BEEN SATISFIED.

SO HOPEFULLY.

YEAH, THOSE CHECKS AND BALANCES ARE ENOUGH.

THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILLOR PAYNE. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

DO WE HAVE ANY DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS FROM RESIDENTS IN PLACE IN ORDER TO HAVE THIS APPROVED? MISS BASSI-KELLETT.

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THE ANSWER IS NO.

SO THERE'S NO MINIMUM DISTANCE FROM SO 600M IS MORE THAN ADEQUATE? I WOULD IMAGINE.

SO NO DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS AT ALL.

NOTHING IN THE ZONING BYLAW THAT SAYS A CAMPGROUND HAS TO BE X METERS AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL.

HOWEVER, WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED THERE IS A DISTANCE.

AND BECAUSE IT'S NOT EVEN THE WHOLE LOT THAT THEY CAN TAKE UP, THE PROPOSED PART IS A PORTION OF THE LOT THAT'S FURTHEST AWAY FROM FROM THE RESIDENTIAL MISS BASSI-KELLETT.

MISS WHITE. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SEPARATION DISTANCES, USUALLY WE TALK ABOUT USES THAT CREATE NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO SENSITIVE LAND USES.

SENSITIVE LAND USES BEING RESIDENTIAL INSTITUTIONAL.

SO SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS PEOPLE'S HOUSES.

AND THE MORE INTENSE USES USUALLY ARE INDUSTRIAL.

SO THEY'RE STINKY, THEY'RE NOISY BRIGHT LIGHTS, THAT SORT OF THING.

SO THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF IMPACTS WE LOOK AT.

WE DEFINITELY HAVE SEPARATION BETWEEN INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, BUT BETWEEN IN SPECIFICALLY IN THE ZONING BYLAW, THERE IS NO CAMPGROUND SEPARATION DISTANCE REQUIREMENT FROM A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN.

THANKS, MAYOR ALTY. PRIOR TO THE LEASE REVIEW IN 2023, HAD THERE BEEN ANY COMPLAINTS FROM OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE.

WHAT WAS ABOUT THE.

CURRENT PROPERTY LEASES USE OF THE PROPERTY HAD THE CITY RECEIVED COMPLAINTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

MISS BASSI-KELLETT, MISS WHITE, THANK YOU, NO.

ANYTHING FURTHER.

I REALIZED I ACTUALLY READ COUNCIL PROCEDURES WRONG AND I JUMPED A STEP AND S O THE SPEAKERS ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE THE FINAL COMMENTS BEFORE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO, SPEAKER NUMBER ONE, IF YOU WANT TO COME TO THE MIC AND AGAIN, IT'LL BE TWO MINUTES FOR YOUR FINAL COMMENTS, BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO COME TO YOU HAVE TO COME TO THE MIC AND YOU'LL HAVE TO TURN IT ON BECAUSE WE NEED TO WE WEBCAST THIS SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR IT AT HOME TOO.

SAY IF THERE WAS PASSED.

AND, AND IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OR WHATEVER.

IS THERE ONLY ONE ROAD IN? THE PROPOSAL IS THE CURRENT ROAD OF KAM.

I BELIEVE IT'S KAM LAKE, SO.

BUT IF A FIRE STARTS HERE.

SAY IF I DO. HOW DO WE GET OUT OF IT? SO THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING? I OWN AN RV PARK.

I GOT 58 ACRES AND I GOT EVERYTHING IN THERE.

RESTAURANTS, I GOT CABINS, I GOT BOAT RIDING AND THIS AND THAT.

I WENT IN WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.

AND JUST AFTER IT WAS APPROVED, THE DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY SHUT ME DOWN.

BECAUSE I HAD TO HAVE ACCESS TO GET OUT OF IT.

NOT BACK TO ONE SIDE FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE.

SO IF IT WAS GOING TO BE APPROVED.

IS THERE TWO EXITS? CAN THEY GET IN AND OUT IF THERE'S A FIRE? OKAY. PERFECT. WE'LL TAKE YOUR COMMENT UNDER CONSIDERATION.

OKAY. THANK YOU. DID YOU? YEAH. WHERE THERE'S NO MINIMUM DISTANCE FROM HOUSES.

AM I ALLOWED TO HAVE A PRIVATE RV PARK IN MY BACKYARD? YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH.

YOU'D HAVE TO REQUEST A REZONING OF YOUR YOUR PARCEL.

JUST DO IT AND THEN ASK FOR PERMISSION LATER.

YOU'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS SO YOU COULD GET IT REZONED OR YOU COULD NOT.

SO THAT'S SO I HAVE TO GET IT REZONED IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

IS THAT ON MY COST? YEAH. YEAH.

YOU. YEAH. YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR A FEE TO REZONE.

OKAY. AND IS THERE ANYTHING DO YOU.

WOULD I HAVE TO PAY ANY EXTRA IF I DO IT WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION? YES, YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR THE REZONING.

SO SAME FEE.

THAT DOESN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION.

YOU'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS.

SO YOU HAVE TO APPLY.

YEAH. BUT IS THERE AN EXTRA COST IF YOU GO AHEAD.

NO, IT'S THE SAME COST IF I.

SO IF I REZONE I CAN EITHER PAY NOW OR PAY WHEN I'M IN TROUBLE.

CORRECT. OKAY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

SHELDON, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK? OH. THIS QUESTION IS FOR MISS WHITE.

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NO. SO IT'S JUST FINAL COMMENTS.

OH, OKAY.

SO IN ACCORDING TO MISS WHITE IT WAS REZONED.

THE LEASE WAS MADE SMALLER.

BY HOW MUCH? THAT'S ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.

IF IT HAS, THE CITY NEEDS TO BE.

WE HAVE LOTS OF IT, PEOPLE.

THAT WEBSITE NEEDS TO BE ON PAR 100% ALL THE TIME.

SO PUBLIC LIKE MYSELF DON'T LOSE THEIR COOL.

THE ZONING RIGHT NOW, IT SHOWS THAT IT'S APPROXIMATELY 20, 20, 21 ACRES.

THAT'S WHAT IT SHOWS IT AS.

IT'S BEEN REZONED MADE SMALLER.

HOW AND LIKE WHAT DIRECTIONS HAS, YOU KNOW.

I MEAN, CLOSER TO THE ROAD.

AWAY FROM THE LAKE.

AWAY FROM GRACE LAKE.

AWAY FROM BRADEN BOULEVARD.

WHICH WAY? OKAY. THEY'RE NOT.

THAT'S ALL I GOT. PERFECT.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL TAKE THAT UNDER CONSIDERATION.

FINAL SPEAKER.

ALL GOOD. OKAY.

WITH THAT, I WILL DECLARE THE STATUTORY PUBLIC HEARING AS CLOSED.

SO SINCE WE DID RECEIVE SUBMISSIONS IN OPPOSITION THE NEXT STEPS IS COUNCIL CAN DEFER THIS AND DEBATE SECOND READING AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING.

OR WE CAN CONSIDER THE SUBMISSIONS RECEIVED DEBATE WHETHER TO GO TO A SECOND AND THIRD READING TONIGHT, WE CAN SEND A REQUEST TO ADMINISTRATION TO DO A SUMMATION OF THE POINTS THAT WE HEARD THAT WOULD THEN COME TO GPC, AND THEN WE WOULD DO SECOND OR THIRD READING, OR WE JUST REFER THE WHOLE BYLAW BACK TO ADMINISTRATION.

SO WHAT WOULD BE THE WILL OF COUNCIL? DEFER IT TO A SUBSEQUENT MEETING, RECOGNIZING YOU CAN'T TAKE ANYTHING ELSE INTO CONSIDERATION.

IF SOMEBODY STOPS YOU AT THE GROCERY STORE, YOU HAVE TO STOP THEM AND TELL THEM THAT YOU CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING.

FURTHER, WE CAN ONLY CONSIDER WHAT WAS PRESENTED TONIGHT, OR MOVE ON TO SECOND READING TONIGHT, OR GET A SUMMATION FROM ADMINISTRATION.

DEPUTY MAYOR COCHRANE, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE PRESENTERS.

I THINK I HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE ADMINISTRATION.

AND FROM SEEING THE PRESENTATION FROM THE OPPOSITION TO MOVE FORWARD TONIGHT.

GENERAL SUPPORT I SEE COUNCILLOR WARBURTON COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN, COUNCILLOR MCGURK, COUNCILLOR PAYNE, COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN, COUNCILLOR ARDEN-SMITH READY TO PROCEED TONIGHT.

AND COUNCILLOR FEQUET LOOKING TO.

SEEING THE MAJORITY READY TO PROCEED FOR SECOND READING TONIGHT.

NO, IT'S JUST CAPTURING WHAT WE HEARD TONIGHT, AND THEN WE GET IT IN A MEMO FORMAT.

COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.

THANK YOU. IS IT APPROPRIATE TO SORT OF, LIKE, STATE MY OPINION YET? NO, NO, BUT YOU WILL GET TO SHORTLY.

SEEING GENERAL SUPPORT WE WILL MOVE TO SECOND READING TONIGHT.

THERE WERE NO DELEGATIONS PERTAINING TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

THERE WERE NO STATEMENTS FOR THE AGENDA.

ARE THERE ANY MEMBER STATEMENTS FROM THE FLOOR? SEEING NONE.

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COMMITTEE REPORT FOR MARCH 11TH, COUNCILLOR MCGURK.

I MOVE THE COUNCIL APPROVE THE PROPOSED SCHEDULE FOR THE 2024 COMMITTEE ROUNDTABLES FOR COUNCIL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A SECONDER? COUNCILLOR FEQUET.

OPENING IT UP TO DISCUSSION.

SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

NEXT WE HAVE COUNCILLOR MCGURK.

I MOVE THE COUNCIL APPROVE THE EXPENDITURE OF $10,000 FROM THE HERITAGE COMMITTEE'S BUDGET TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE YELLOWKNIFE HISTORICAL SOCIETY'S MUSEUM SOCIETY MUSEUM ON-GOING PROJECTS.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECONDER? COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. THE GRAND OPENING IS TOMORROW.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

COUNCILLOR MCGURK. I MOVE THAT COUNCIL, APPOINT ERIC CAMERON TO SERVE FOR A THREE YEAR TERM EFFECTIVE MARCH 26TH, 2024, UNTIL MARCH 25TH, 2027, ON THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE DEVELOPMENT APPEAL BOARD.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECONDER? DEPUTY MAYOR COCHRANE, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SEEING NONE.

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THANK YOU TO A SECONDER.

COUNCILLOR FEQUET, ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

COUNCILLOR MCGURK.

I MOVE THAT IN THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION ADMINISTRATION BE DIRECTED TO BRING FORWARD A MEMORANDUM TO COMMITTEE WITH RESPECT TO CHANGING THE NAME OF FRANKLIN 50TH AVENUE. THANK YOU.

DO I HAVE A SECONDER. DEPUTY MAYOR COCHRANE ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? COUNCILLOR ARDEN-SMITH.

THANK YOU. I WANTED TO BE ON RECORD THAT I WOULD LIKE THIS TO ACTUALLY HALT.

I BELIEVE GOING FORWARD WITH THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE AFTER THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT ISSUE IS RESOLVED BETWEEN THE [INAUDIBLE].

I BELIEVE MOVING FORWARD WITH ANYTHING ALONG THESE LINES WILL REALLY CAUSE A DISTURBANCE WITHIN THE CITY.

AND I BELIEVE TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION SHOULD BEGIN WITH PARTNERSHIP, NOT ONLY WITH THE CITY AND THE [INAUDIBLE] BUT WITH ALL INDIGENOUS GROUPS THAT RESIDE HERE IN YELLOWKNIFE.

MERCI. I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO TABLE THE MOTION, THEN.

YES, I WOULD.

SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR FEQUET TO THE ADVISABILITY OF TABLING IT.

QUESTIONS? COUNCILLOR MCGURK.

AND THEN? TECHNICALLY, NO, BUT.

YEAH. YEAH.

OKAY. MAYBE I WILL DO A QUESTION FOR MR..

I'M WONDERING IF THIS MEMORANDUM DOESN'T PRESENT.

IT DOESN'T PRESENT ANYTHING BINDING TO US.

IS IT A ESSENTIALLY A A FOR INFORMATION ITEM MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.

SO THE MEMO THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD IN WHICH GPC RECOMMENDED COME TO COUNCIL TONIGHT, IS THAT WE WOULD EXPLORE THE CONCEPT AND THE PROCESS FOR HOW THE RENAMING OF FRANKLIN AVENUE WOULD GO AHEAD.

SO IF COUNCIL WERE TO PROCEED WITH THIS THIS EVENING, WORK WOULD BE UNDERWAY WITHIN ADMINISTRATION TO LAY OUT THE ISSUES, THE PROCESS, HOW PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WOULD UNFOLD, AND A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO COME BACK TO GPC AND THEN COUNCIL.

SO THE TIMELINE IS NOT FULLY COMMITTED IN THE DIRECTION THAT IS LAID OUT HERE.

AND IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO ADMINISTRATION'S WORK PLAN IF COUNCIL WERE TO APPROVE IT TONIGHT.

THANKS. SO WOULD THE THE CONCERN THAT THIS IN TERMS OF WITH THE CONCERN IN WHICH COUNCILLOR SMITH HAS ARTICULATED BE AMONG THE SORT OF LIST OF POTENTIAL ISSUES THAT COULD THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED WITHIN THE MEMORANDUM.

MISS BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT IS SOMETHING THAT IS DIFFERENT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

WE'VE HAD REPRESENTATION FROM THE TLICHO GOVERNMENT.

WE'VE HAD REPRESENTATION FROM THE YELLOWKNIVES SOME REPRESENTATION FROM NORTH SLAVE METIS ALLIANCE AS WELL.

AND THERE ARE SOME INTERESTS THAT OVERLAP AND ALIGN AND THERE ARE SOME INTERESTS THAT DO NOT.

SO THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THERE THAT NEED TO BE WORKED ON BEFORE THERE'S ANY CHANGE MADE TO OUR LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT.

IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGING PROCESS.

AND THE ONE WHERE THERE HAS BEEN A SUGGESTION MADE THAT WE GET RESPECTIVE LEGAL COUNCILS INVOLVED, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT UNHEARD OF WHEN IT COMES TO A LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT, BUT IT MAY BE THE PATH FORWARD.

THANK YOU. SO JUST FOR CLARITY, WOULD WOULD THAT THE FACT THAT THIS IS AN ONGOING ISSUE, THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGMENT ISSUE, BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE FACTORED INTO THE MEMORANDUM TO COMMITTEE? MISS BASSI-KELLETT. SO IT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH CONCURRENTLY, AND IT CERTAINLY PREDATES THIS REQUEST TO RENAME FRANKLIN AVENUE, BUT IT WOULD BE A FACTOR.

YES. THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR COCHRANE.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

I'M AGAINST TABLING THE MOTION.

I'D RATHER HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION GO FORWARD WITH THE MEMO SO WE CAN GET A FULL EXPLANATION ON THE PROCESS, AND THEN ALSO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE ENGAGEMENT THAT WE WERE ALREADY SPEAKING OF LAST TIME, NOT ONLY THROUGH OUR TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION ROUND TABLE, BUT ALSO THE ENGAGEMENT THAT WOULD COME WITH THIS.

I'D PREFER TO GO FORWARD THAN RATHER TABLE THIS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR FEQUET.

THANKS, MADAM CHAIR.

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AND WHILE I RECOGNIZE THAT THE WORK THAT HAD BEEN WOULD DO WOULD BE HELPFUL EITHER WAY, IF WE EVENTUALLY DID TAKE THIS ACT OF RECONCILIATION, WHICH, YOU KNOW, SEEMS LIKE A GOOD STEP, I THINK FOR ME, THIS THIS GOES INTO THE CATEGORY OF LET'S DO IT RIGHT, AND I DON'T WANT TO RUSH IT.

AND I WANT ADMIN.

THEY HAVE A MILLION THINGS ON THEIR PLATE RIGHT NOW.

AND I'M SURE MISS, AMONGST MANY OTHER THINGS, WILL COME UP DURING OUR RECONCILIATION ROUNDTABLE LATER IN THE SUMMER.

SO MOSTLY IT'S JUST A, IT'S A PRIORITIZATION OF ADMINISTRATION'S TIME.

SO I UNDERSTAND THIS WORK WOULD BE USEFUL NO MATTER WHAT THE ROAD GETS NAMED IF IT DID GET RENAMED.

BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT MIGHT REQUIRE SOME MEANINGFUL AND THOUGHTFUL CONVERSATIONS THAT WILL TAKE SOME TIME.

SO FOR THAT REASON, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF TABLING IT.

ANYTHING FURTHER? I ALSO WON'T BE IN SUPPORT OF TABLING IT, I DO WANT TO SEE WHAT THE PROCESS LOOKS LIKE.

AND AND THAT CAN BE A CONSIDERATION OF, YOU KNOW, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS CHIEF DRYGEESE HAVE, BUT THERE COULD BE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COME FORWARD.

BUT JUST UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS, MAYBE THE PROCESS IS SO CUMBERSOME THAT IT'S STAYING FRANKLIN AVE FOR ETERNITY.

SO FOR ME I AM SUPPORTIVE OF OF IT GOING AHEAD.

NOTHING CHANGES VERY QUICKLY IN GOVERNMENT.

SO HAPPY TO GET THIS STARTED VERSUS TABLING.

SO I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THE THAT.

WITH THAT COUNCILLOR ARDEN-SMITH DID YOU WANT TO CLOSE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? NO. JUST MORE EMULATING ON, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MANY INDIGENOUS PEOPLE THAT LIVE WITHIN YELLOWKNIFE AND A LTHOUGH WE HAVE SIGNED TREATIES AND WE WANT TO MAKE CLAIM TO A LAND THIS LAND, WE'RE JUST STEWARDS OF IT.

WE LIVE HERE.

WE HAVE RESIDED HERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, AND MANY HAVE COME THROUGH MANY DIFFERENT GROUPS HAVE COME THROUGH.

SO FOR MYSELF, WHEN WE'RE TALKING TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION, WE NEED TO DO THIS RIGHT AND NOT JUST BULLDOZE THROUGH.

RENAMING NEEDS TO BE DONE FULSOMELY.

WE NEED TO HAVE THE INCLUSION OF ALL INDIGENOUS GROUPS.

AND I, I BELIEVE THAT THIS SHOULD BE TABLED UNTIL WE HAVE FULSOME DISCUSSION DURING ROUNDTABLE.

AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

MERCI. THANK YOU.

TO THE MOTION TO TABLE.

[INAUDIBLE]. COUNCIL'S ALREADY APPROVED THE WORK PLAN FOR 2024.

I NOTICED THERE'S NO DATE IN HERE, SO TABLING OR NOT, IF IT WENT AHEAD, IT MEAN WOULD BE PUTTING THIS IN THEIR WORK PLAN WHERE IT FITS.

AND PRESUMABLY THAT'S NOT EVEN 2024.

SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT.

MISS BASSI-KELLETT TIMELINE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE HAVE SOME RESOURCES IN THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK THAT'S ABLE TO WORK ON THIS AT THIS TIME AND HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS.

SO THERE HAS BEEN SOME RESEARCH UNDERWAY.

THERE IS CAPACITY IN HOUSE TO WORK ON THIS AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU. TO THE MOTION TO TABLE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OPPOSED, AND THAT'S DEFEATED WITH COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN, COUNCILLOR, ARDEN-SMITH, AND COUNCILLOR FEQUET IN FAVOR TO THE MOTION.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

OH, SORRY. COUNCILLOR MCGURK.

I JUST WANT TO ARTICULATE THAT THIS IS A GREAT.

THIS IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REVIEW THE PROCESSES IN TERMS OF WHAT WE DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE THE CHANGE OF NAME.

WE THIS WILL HELP US TO ILLUSTRATE THE PROCESS THAT IS REQUIRED TO TO DO THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE, WHICH IS A STEP CLOSER TO IF WE ARE LOOKING AT CHANGING STREET NAMES FOR SIMILAR SORT OF REASONS.

AND THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHY I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A BINDING DECISION THAT WE'D BE MAKING.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.

THANK YOU. YEAH.

ALSO, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS RAISED BY COUNCILLOR ARDEN-SMITH.

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SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET MORE INFORMATION AND SEE WHAT THE PROCESS IS LIKE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ANYTHING FURTHER, COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN, JUST FOR CLARITY, FOR MYSELF, I VOTED TO TABLE IT, BUT NOW THAT IT'LL GO FORWARD, I WILL VOTE IN SUPPORT OF IT, BECAUSE I DO THINK ALL OF THOSE REASONS OF RECONCILIATION.

SO WHILE I DO THINK YOU KNOW, FROM A WORK PLAN PERSPECTIVE AND THE IDEA OF MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE FULSOME THINKING BEHIND THIS AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE HAVING THE RECONCILIATION EVENT THIS SUMMER.

AND FURTHER CONVERSATION, WHICH IS WHY I WAS IN SUPPORT OF TABLING IT.

I'LL STILL SUPPORT IT GOING FORWARD NOW THAT COUNCIL'S WILL IS THAT SO THAT WE AS A GROUP ARE AS SUPPORTIVE AS POSSIBLE BEHIND THIS PROCESS AND BEHIND THIS WORK? THANK YOU. ANYTHING FURTHER? COUNCILLOR ARDEN-SMITH.

AFTER A WHOLE YEAR, IT'S TOUGH, RIGHT? TWO YEARS? YEAH.

TWO YEARS.

YEAH. SO SEEING AS MY MOTION WAS DEFEATED, I WILL BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS GOING FORWARD.

BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY NO POINT IN ME KICKING AND SCREAMING OVER HERE.

BUT THE INFORMATION WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED BY ADMINISTRATION.

I HOPE IT DOESN'T PUT ANYBODY OUT.

BECAUSE I KNOW A WORK PLAN IS QUITE HEFTY.

AND THEN FROM THERE, I HOPE MY HOPE FOR US IS THAT WE TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND THE GUIDANCE FROM FROM OUR TEAM, AND WE MAKE THE BEST DECISION POSSIBLE.

RECONCILIATION. WE ARE JUST IN THE INFANCY OF IT.

AND WHAT IT MEANS AND IT NEEDS TO BE INCLUSIVE OF ALL PEOPLE THAT RESIDE HERE.

MYSELF EVERYBODY PRETTY MUCH KNOWS I'M PING-CHO.

BUT, I MEAN, I HAVE FAMILY, THAT'S [INAUDIBLE].

SO FOR ME, IT'S A IT'S A TOUGH CHOICE TO BE ON, AND I WANT TO REPRESENT BOTH SIDES AS BEST I CAN, BECAUSE I WANT ALL OF US TO BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER.

BEFORE COLONIZATION, WE WORKED TOGETHER.

THAT WAS OUR MAIN GOAL.

WE HAD TO WORK TOGETHER IN ORDER TO SURVIVE.

AND SO I WANT US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER.

MERCI. THANK YOU.

SEEING NOTHING FURTHER.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY COUNCILLOR MCGURK.

I MOVE THE COUNCIL, APPOINT NANCY LAMB, DAVE NICKERSON AND TODD SLACK THE 2024 CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE BOARD OF REVISION AND THAT AN HONORARIUM OF $250 PER DAY BE PAID TO ALL COMMUNITY BOARD MEMBERS.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECONDER? COUNCILLOR FEQUET ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILLOR FEQUET. I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

THE CONTEXT IS THAT I THINK ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

CONTEXT? JUST WHAT'S THE MOTION? THE HONORARIUM GOES UP TO $500 PER DAY.

PERFECT. SECONDER.

COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.

COUNCILLOR FEQUET. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE MOTION.

WAY TO KEEP US HONEST.

YEAH. SO OUR TWO COMMITTEES THAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE'S HONORARIA PAID TO THE VOLUNTEERS FROM THE COMMUNITY WHO SERVE ON THEM AS THE AUDIT COMMITTEE AND THE BOARD OF REVISIONS, OF WHICH I WAS THANKFUL TO TAKE PART IN LAST YEAR.

I FOUND OUT AFTER, THOUGH, TAKING PART IN IT THAT THE HONORARY IS ONLY $250 PER DAY FOR THE BOARD OF REVISIONS, AND PEOPLE ARE ASKED TO BOOK OFF A WHOLE DAY OR TWO IN THEIR CALENDAR FROM WORK.

AND THE AUDIT COMMITTEE MEMBERS ALSO RECEIVED $250, BUT THEIR MEETINGS ARE USUALLY LESS THAN A HALF DAY AND TYPICALLY MORE LIKE AN HOUR OR TWO.

AND SO THEY'RE GETTING $250 A DAY.

SO THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO $500 IS JUST A LITTLE MORE REFLECTIVE OF KIND OF A DAY'S WORK KNOWING THAT WHETHER THE HEARINGS TAKE A DAY OR NOT, THEY HAVE TO BOOK OFF THAT DAY.

OR TWO SOMETIMES, AS WAS THE CASE LAST YEAR, THANKFULLY, WE ONLY NEEDED ONE, THOUGH, SO THAT'S THE CONTEXT FOR THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? DEPUTY MAYOR COCHRANE, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.

JUST CURIOUS FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, WHERE DOES THE HONORARY COME OUT OF IN OUR BUDGET? MISS BASSI-KELLETT.

THANK YOU. IT FEELS LIKE A POP QUIZ TONIGHT.

I'LL ASK MR. PANDU.

WELL, I'LL JUST MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH HIM AND SEE IF HE KNOWS.

OTHERWISE, WE WILL TAKE THIS UNDER ADVISEMENT.

THANK YOU. WE'LL TAKE THIS UNDER ADVISEMENT.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

NO. I'M NOT AGAINST THIS.

IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE THAT MUCH OF AN EFFECT.

I'M ASSUMING IT PROBABLY JUST COMES AT A COUNCIL OR MAYOR AND COUNCIL WITHIN THE BUDGET.

SO. YEAH [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH. ASKING PEOPLE TO SPEND A WHOLE DAY AND MAKING IT A PLACE WHERE IT'S GOING TO, ESPECIALLY WITH SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS REPLACE THEIR INCOME FOR THAT DAY.

I DON'T SEE IT AS A TERRIBLE IDEA.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

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JUST THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

JUST A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION.

HOW OFTEN DOES THE BOARD OF REVISION MEET? ONCE A YEAR FOR TWO DAYS.

WELL, GENERALLY A MAXIMUM OF TWO DAYS.

MISS BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S TYPICALLY ONCE A YEAR.

OKAY. YEAH, I THINK THE $500 IS FAIR.

THANK YOU. ANYTHING FURTHER? COUNCILLOR MCGURK JUST MAYBE A LITTLE SEMANTICAL QUESTION THAT I'M WONDERING.

THE LANGUAGE IN THE IN THE MOTION IS THAT THEY PAY BE PAID $250.

WELL, WHATEVER SUM WE LAND ON PER DAY IS THAT DO WE NEED TO SPECIFY THAT THAT IS PER DAY WORKING AS THE BOARD OF REVISION? BECAUSE IT'S FOR ME, IF I READ THIS WITHOUT ANY CONTEXT, I COULD INTERPRET IT AS WE ARE PAYING THEM $250 A DAY, PERIOD. I THINK THAT IT'S IT'S ONLY.

YEAH, YEAH, IT'S ONLY ON THE DAYS THAT THEY MEET THAT THEY GET PAID.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I GUESS JUST SPEAKING FROM LIKE A, STRICTLY FROM A LIKE IN WRITING LEGAL PERSPECTIVE IS THAT IS THERE A CONCERN THERE, I THINK, OR AM I JUST MAYBE IN THE TERMS OF REFERENCE? MISS BASSI-KELLETT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE THE CARE AND CONCERN THAT COUNCILLOR MCGURK IS BRINGING TO THIS, BUT IT IS IN OUR TERMS OF REFERENCE.

WE DO SPEAK ABOUT PEOPLE ARE WORKING FOR THE BOARD OF REVISION WHEN THE COMMITTEE IS UNDERWAY IN MEETING.

SO OTHERWISE NO, THERE'S NO WORRY THAT WE WOULD BE PAYING PEOPLE EVERY DAY FOR THE FACT THAT THEY'VE BEEN APPOINTED TO THIS.

THANK YOU. YES.

THANK YOU. I'M NOT. IT WAS MORE OF A IF SOMEBODY COULD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE POTENTIALLY RESISTING IN THE FUTURE.

BUT IT'S GOOD THAT IT'S IN OUR TERMS AND CONDITIONS.

NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

COMMENTS. THANK YOU.

SEEING NOTHING FURTHER, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT TO CHANGE FROM $250 PER DAY TO $500 PER DAY.

AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY ANYTHING FURTHER TO THE AMENDED MOTION.

SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDED MOTION.

AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

COUNCILLOR MCGURK.

I MOVE THE COUNCIL, APPOINT BALA TIRUPATHI AS REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLES AND PEOPLES AND ORGANIZATIONS, FRIENDSHIP CENTERS OR INDIGENOUS HOUSING ORGANIZATIONS TO SERVE ON THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD ON HOMELESSNESS CAB COMMENCING MARCH 26TH, 2024 AND ENDING MARCH 25TH, 2026.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECONDER? COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

THERE WAS NO NEW BUSINESS FOR THE AGENDA.

IS THERE ANY NEW BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR? ENACTMENT OF BYLAWS.

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COUNCILLOR MCGURK.

I MOVE THE SECOND READING OF BYLAW NUMBER 5079.

THANK YOU DO I HAVE A SECONDER? COUNCILLOR PAYNE OPENING IT UP TO DISCUSSION.

QUESTIONS. COMMENTS.

COUNCILLOR PAYNE. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

RECOGNIZING THE COMPLAINTS OR THE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN OPPOSITION TONIGHT.

I THINK THROUGH OUR CONVERSATION, WE HAD I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF ANSWER OR QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

WE GOT A PRETTY DECENT ANSWER ON FIRE SUPPRESSION DOWN THERE.

WE LEARNED THAT THERE WAS NO COMPLAINTS FILED LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE.

THERE'S NO DISTANCE REQUIREMENT TO HOMES DOWN THERE.

I'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN SUPPORT OF OF THE CITY OR HAVING AN RV PARK WITHIN THE CITY.

I THINK IT'S IT'S NEEDED, AND I THINK IT'S IN DEMAND.

I'M A CAMPER MYSELF, SO I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO FIND A SITE AROUND HERE.

WE COULD PROBABLY GO WITH ANOTHER 300 SITES WITHIN THE CITY, AND THEY'D ALL BE BOOKED.

SO I'M NOT ONE TO GET IN THE WAY OF SOMEBODY STARTING OR IMPROVING THEIR BUSINESS.

SO I WILL BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS ZONING CHANGE.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR WARBURTON.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND THANKS AGAIN, EVERYONE, FOR COMING OUT.

I WILL SUPPORT THIS, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY BEGRUDGINGLY.

I GET ANNOYED WHEN PEOPLE DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES.

ESPECIALLY DON'T FOLLOW CONTRACTS.

SO THIS DOES FEEL A BIT LIKE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FIXING AN ERROR.

I'M GLAD IT WAS STOPPED.

AND THERE'S A STOP ORDER PUT IN, AND IT IT GOT ALL REMOVED.

ALL THE CAMPERS DID, BUT YEAH, I IT BUGS ME A BIT ON THIS.

I DO KNOW, HAVING GONE THROUGH IT MYSELF, THAT THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF THESE COMPLIANCES DONE FROM FIRE SUPPRESSION AND FIRE PITS AND BONDS

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SO I KNOW THAT PROCESS WILL WORK REALLY WELL.

I THINK THIS COMMENTS I'M HEARING SPEAKS MORE TO HOW WE'RE ENFORCING OUR BYLAWS OR NOT.

I KNOW FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE THAT THE NOISE BYLAW, YOU FILE A COMPLAINT, YOU TURN THE MUSIC DOWN, FILE, YOU CALL AGAIN AN HOUR LATER, IT'S A NEW COMPLAINT.

SO THERE'S NO ESCALATION PROCESS.

SO A LATER DATE, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT KIND OF HOW WE'RE ENFORCING BYLAWS AND.

AND WHAT'S THE POINT OF HAVING THEM IF NOT ENFORCING THEM? AND I DO WOULD ENCOURAGE FOLKS IF THEY KNOW IF, LIKE, EVERYONE KNEW, THIS CAMPGROUND WAS OUT THERE FOREVER, BUT THERE WAS NO COMPLAINTS.

SO WE CAN'T DO STUFF IF WE DON'T HEAR ABOUT IT.

SO YEAH, I'D LOVE TO HAVE A BIGGER CONVERSATION AROUND ENFORCING BYLAWS IN THE FUTURE, BUT I'LL BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS BEGRUDGINGLY.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.

YEAH, I SHARE ESSENTIALLY ALL OF THE SAME FEELINGS AS COUNCILLOR WARBURTON.

YEAH. CONCERNS ABOUT SETTING A PRECEDENT THAT PEOPLE CAN JUST GO AHEAD WITH SOMETHING AND THEN SORT OF ASK FOR PERMISSION LATER.

ALSO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT ENFORCING BYLAWS AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT AND THE CONDITIONS AROUND THAT.

IN TERMS OF THE SPECIFIC ISSUE LOOKING AT TONIGHT ZONING AND A CAMPGROUND IN THIS AREA.

THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

COMMERCIAL RECREATION.

THAT'S THE WHOLE IDEA OF KAM LAKE SOUTH AND YEAH, A CAMPGROUND FITS THERE IN TERMS OF ZONING.

SO I WOULD ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF COUNCILLOR WARBURTON AND OFFER MY OWN BEGRUDGING SUPPORT.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MCGURK.

DITTO. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, ADDITIONALLY, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO I THINK ADMINISTRATION MENTIONED THEY WOULD REVIEW WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS AN ABILITY TO DISCLOSE PUBLICLY WHETHER THERE WAS INCURRED PENALTIES FOR WHEN THE STOP LEASE ORDER.

I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF IT EXACTLY.

THAT ORDER WHEN THE WHEN THEY WERE ASKED TO STOP ACTIVITIES.

AND IF IT'S NOT A PUBLIC IF IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DISCLOSE THAT SPECIFIC INFORMATION ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL PUBLICLY.

IF THERE IS AN ABILITY TO MAKE A NOTE OF THE PUBLIC THAT WHETHER THERE ARE INCURRED PENALTIES FOR SUCH THINGS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR FEQUET.

THANKS, MADAM CHAIR.

YEAH, I FELL INTO THE SAME BEGRUDGING CATEGORY.

I AM WILLING TO SUPPORT THIS CHANGE TO THE ZONE BECAUSE TECHNICALLY, IT'S ALREADY ZONED FOR YOU KNOW, NATURAL RESOURCE EXTRACTION, WHICH WOULD HAVE WAY MORE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS THAN THOSE CONCERNS THAT CAME TONIGHT.

I AM SUPPORTIVE OF COMMERCIAL RECREATION AND CAMPGROUNDS IN THE CITY.

I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

WE DO NEED MORE OF THAT.

I. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMEBODY DID SOMETHING AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL AFTER.

BUT I ACTUALLY SEE THIS PROCESS AS CLEANING IT UP BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING UNLESS IT'S INCORRECT, BUT WHEN THEY HAVE TO APPLY FOR A DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE RUBBER HITS THE ROAD WITH ALL THE CONDITIONS FOR COMPLIANCE.

IF THEY DON'T GET THAT WITHIN 12 MONTHS THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REMOVE ALL THAT STUFF FROM THE SITE.

SO THIS IS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, GIVING THAT PERSON AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SPEND SOME MONEY TO, TO DO ALL OF THE CONDITIONS THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WILL PUT IN AND OR THEY'LL HAVE TO REMOVE THAT STUFF.

SO THIS IS A WAY TO, YOU KNOW, PERMANENTLY FIGURE THAT OUT, WHETHER THAT'S GOING TO BE A PERMANENT USE IN THE LONG TERM OR IT'S NOT, AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REMOVE IT.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THAT'S WHY I'LL BE SUPPORTING IT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR ARDEN-SMITH, THANK YOU.

RECOGNIZING THAT RV PARK IS IS SOMETHING THAT'S MAGICAL AND WONDERFUL AS COUNCILLOR PAYNE HAS POINTED OUT.

I AM NOT A FAN OF IT'S BETTER TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS THAN PERMISSION, AND I THINK THIS SETS A PRECEDENCE.

I DON'T THINK IT IS FAIR FOR OTHER RESIDENTS AND OTHER LEASEHOLDERS TO HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE RULES WHILE SOMEBODY ELSE ISN'T, SO I'M GOING TO BE OPPOSED.

MERCI. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

COCHRANE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.

AFTER HEARING ALL THE ANSWERS FROM ADMINISTRATION, WHICH I THINK MOST HIT MOST OF MY CONCERNS AND HEARING THROUGH THE OPPOSITION, WELL MET AND HEARD, THOUGH THIS PARTICULAR ONE HAS BEEN STATED BY MY COLLEAGUES QUITE WELL, I DON'T THINK I NEED TO ECHO THE SENTIMENT ANYMORE ABOUT CREATING THE PRECEDENT OR SUCH.

THIS IS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY PLAN AND I DO SUPPORT ITS RECREATIONAL USE.

I WILL JUST [INAUDIBLE] SUPPORT THE MOTION.

THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN.

THANKS, MAYOR ALTY. FIRST, A QUESTION FOR ADMIN.

JUST COMING FROM ONE OF THE LAST STATEMENTS FROM THE PRESENTERS EARLIER.

CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT WAS IN THE MEMO FROM GPC, BUT THAT IF A PERMIT WERE TO GO FORWARD OR AS PART OF THIS BYLAW CHANGE, THAT THE ACTUAL ROAD TO THE SITE

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MISS BASSI-KELLETT MISS WHITE, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

SO YES, THAT WAS IN THE PLANNING REPORT.

AND SO THERE IS A DISTANCE AND I'M OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD ABOUT 500M.

THAT WOULD NEED TO BE UPGRADED SO THAT THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC WOULD BE SUSTAINED BY THAT ROAD.

WE WOULD WORK WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE THAT IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS.

THANK YOU. AND I REALIZED I DIDN'T ASK IT IN THE FIRST PART OF MY QUESTION.

SO JUST FOR CLARITY, FOR THE RECORD, THAT WOULD BE AT THE APPLICANT'S EXPENSE.

MISS BASSI-KELLETT.

MISS WHITE. CORRECT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS CLEAR.

I FALL HEAVILY, AS COUNCILLOR WARBURTON SAID, INTO THE BEGRUDGING CATEGORY.

I REALLY CAME TONIGHT EXPECTING AND PLANNING, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, TO LIKELY VOTE AGAINST THIS.

AS THE CONVERSATION WENT THROUGH, THOUGH, AND ADMIN HIGHLIGHTED THAT AS THIS IS IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN THAT HAD THE BAD BEHAVIOR, SHALL WE SAY NOT BEEN REMEDIED THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THAT THEY WOULD HAVE RECOMMENDED THIS HAD THAT NOT HAPPENED ANYWAY.

THEREFORE, I'M IN FAVOR.

AND COUNCILLOR FEQUET HIGHLIGHTED VERY WELL THAT THIS ACTUALLY ALLOWS US A NEW PLATFORM FROM WHICH TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE GOING FORWARD.

SO FOR THAT REASON, I WILL BEGRUDGINGLY SUPPORT THE THE MOTION TONIGHT.

FOR MYSELF, I'M ALSO IN SUPPORT OF PERMITTING THE CAMPGROUND ON A PORTION OF THE LOT AS IDENTIFIED.

AND WHEN MAKING MY DECISION, I'VE REVIEWED WHAT'S PERMITTED IN THE AREA.

SO WHAT'S CURRENTLY ALLOWED TO HAPPEN ON THIS LOT.

THEY COULD DO NATURAL RESOURCE EXTRACTION, THEY COULD DO COMMERCIAL RECREATION, AND MORE.

SO I DETERMINED.

OR DID THE WEIGHT OF IS A CAMPGROUND MORE DISRUPTIVE THAN A QUARRY, WHICH IS AN ALLOWED USE, OR IS A CAMPGROUND MORE DISRUPTIVE THAN A FAIR OR AN OUTDOOR TOURISM ACTIVITY LIKE SNOWMOBILING, WHICH ARE ALSO PERMITTED USES.

AND FOR BOTH THOSE QUESTIONS, I'D SAY THAT A CAMPGROUND IS LESS DISRUPTIVE THAN THE CURRENT PERMITTED USES OF THE LOT.

I THINK QUARRYING, A FAIR, OUTDOOR TOURISM AND OTHER PERMITTED USES COULD HAVE BIGGER IMPACTS ON TRAFFIC AND NOISE.

I'D SAY A CAMPGROUND IS MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES THAN THE PERMITTED USES, AND THEREFORE I I DO SUPPORT THE CAMPGROUND.

IN REGARDS TO THE CONCERN RAISED THAT THE USE WAS BUILT BEFORE IT WAS APPROVED, I WANT TO BE CLEAR WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND OTHERS THAT I WOULDN'T THINK TWICE ABOUT DECLINING AN APPLICATION THAT'S NOT ALIGNED WITH THE COMMUNITY'S PLANS, OBJECTIVES, OR IF THE USE ISN'T COMPLEMENTARY, COMPATIBLE, AND WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE NEIGHBORS.

IF YOU INVEST BEFORE GETTING APPROVAL, YOU'RE GAMBLING WITH YOUR OWN MONEY, AND YOU COULD BE THROWING IT DOWN THE DRAIN AND COSTING YOU MORE IF YOU HAVE TO TEAR IT DOWN.

IN THIS CASE, I THINK THE USE IS COMPATIBLE, BUT THAT MAY NOT BE THE CASE FOR OTHER PROPERTIES AND USES IN THE FUTURE.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE GO THROUGH THE PROPER, PROPER PROCESS BEFORE BUILDING ANYTHING FURTHER. SEEING NONE TO SECOND READING.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OPPOSED. AND THAT CARRIES WITH COUNCILLOR ARDEN-SMITH OPPOSED.

TO THIRD READING.

I'D LIKE TO PRESENT THE THIRD READING OF BYLAW NUMBER 5079.

THANK YOU. SECONDER.

DEPUTY MAYOR COCHRANE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OPPOSED. AND THAT CARRIES WITH COUNCILLOR ARDEN-SMITH OPPOSED.

BYLAW NUMBER 5080 A BYLAW TO AMEND PART 6, 8, 12, 15 AND 17 A FEES AND CHARGES BYLAW NUMBER 4436,

[Items 25 - 27]

COUNCILLOR MCGURK I'D LIKE TO [INAUDIBLE].

I'M SORRY. I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT A SECOND READING OF BYLAW NUMBER 5080.

THANK YOU. SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR FEQUET.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

COUNCILLOR MCGURK. I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIRD READING OF BYLAW NUMBER 5080.

THANK YOU. SECONDER.

COUNCILLOR FEQUET.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

[Items 28 - 30]

COUNCILLOR MCGURK. I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THE SECOND READING OF BYLAW NUMBER 5081.

THANK YOU. SECONDER.

COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY TO THIRD READING.

I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THE THIRD READING OF BYLAW NUMBER 5081.

THANK YOU. SECONDER.

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WE HAVE BYLAW NUMBER 5082 A BYLAW TO AMEND THE SENIOR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER BYLAW NUMBER 5035 BY REMOVING SECTION 9, THE REQUIREMENT FOR ONE YEAR

[Items 31 - 33]

COUNCILLOR MCGURK. I PRESENT A SECOND READING OF BYLAW NUMBER 5082.

THANK YOU. SECONDER.

COUNCILLOR ARDEN-SMITH ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? DISCUSSION.

SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY COUNCILLOR MCGURK.

I'D LIKE TO PRESENT THIRD READING OF BYLAW NUMBER 5082.

THANK YOU. SECONDER COUNCILLOR ARDEN-SMITH.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

THERE WERE NO NOTICES OF MOTION FOR THE AGENDA.

ARE THERE ANY NOTICES OF MOTION FROM THE FLOOR? THERE WERE NO DELEGATIONS PERTAINING TO ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

THERE WERE NO ADMINISTRATIVE INQUIRIES FOR THE AGENDA.

ARE THERE ANY ADMINISTRATIVE INQUIRIES FROM THE FLOOR?

[38. Are there any administrative enquiries from the floor?]

THANKS. MADAM CHAIR. FAVORITE TOPIC? FIELD HOUSE. JUST LOOKING FOR AN UPDATE FROM ADMIN ON WHERE WE ARE IN THAT PROCESS.

MISS BASSI-KELLETT THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AN UPDATE ON THE PROCESS OF THE FLOORING REPLACEMENT.

YES. OKAY.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE'VE GONE OUT TO RFP.

WE HAVE AWARDED AND THE PROCESS WILL BE UNFOLDING.

I WILL ASK MR. WHITE IF HE'D LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING.

I GUESS THE ONLY THING I CAN REALLY ADD IS THAT THE TIMELINE IS STILL UNDER DISCUSSION.

WITH THE ANTICIPATION COMPLETION SOMETIME BEFORE THIS NEXT SEASON STARTS IN THE FALL.

THANK YOU.

SEEING NOTHING FURTHER.

IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

MOVED BY DEPUTY MAYOR COCHRANE, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR MCGURK.

ANYBODY OPPOSED? WE CAN BE ADJOURNED.

JUST TO NOTE THE AFTER ACTION ASSESSMENT, THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS IS GOING TO BE ON WEDNESDAY, 6:30 TO 8:30.

AND THERE IS ALSO AN ONLINE OPPORTUNITY.

SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, YOU CAN GO TO THE PLACESPEAK PAGE AND YOUR INFORMATION WILL BE SENT DIRECTLY TO KPMG.

WITH THAT OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE TUESDAY, APRIL 2ND AT 12:05 P.M..

SEE EVERYBODY THEN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.