Oct 23, 2023 Council Meetings

[1. Councillor Warburton will read the Opening Statement]

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AND I'LL CALL OUR COUNCIL MEETING FOR MONDAY, OCTOBER 23RD, 2023 TO ORDER.

AND I'D LIKE TO ASK COUNCILLOR WARBURTON TO PLEASE READ THE OPENING STATEMENT.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE ACKNOWLEDGES THAT WE ARE LOCATED IN CHIEF DRYGEESE TERRITORY.

FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL, IT HAS BEEN THE TRADITIONAL LAND OF THE YELLOWKNIVES DENE FIRST NATION.

WE RESPECT THE HISTORIES, LANGUAGES AND CULTURES OF ALL OTHER INDIGENOUS PEOPLES, INCLUDING THE NORTH SLAVE METIS AND ALL FIRST NATIONS, MÉTIS AND INUIT WHOSE PRESENCE CONTINUES TO ENRICH OUR VIBRANT COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. THERE WERE NO AWARD CEREMONIES OR PRESENTATIONS FOR THE AGENDA.

WE HAVE MINUTES FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS.

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COUNCILLOR WARBURTON. IF YOU'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT.

I MOVE THAT MINUTES OF COUNCIL FOR THE REGULAR MEETING OF TUESDAY, OCTOBER 10TH, 2023 BE PRESENTED FOR ADOPTION.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECONDER? COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN. ANY ERRORS OR OMISSIONS? SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY WITH COUNCILLOR FEQUET IN FAVOR, WHO IS ONLINE.

NEXT, WE HAVE DISCLOSURE OF PECUNIARY INTEREST IN THE GENERAL NATURE THEREOF.

[5. Does any Member have a pecuniary interest in any matter before Council today?]

I WILL HAVE TO REMOVE MYSELF FROM SECTION EIGHT PRESENTATION ONE WITH THE MAKER SPACE YK, AS I CURRENTLY SIT ON THE BOARD AS THEIR TREASURER.

THANK YOU.

AND COUNCILLOR FEQUET WITH THE YELLOWKNIFE WOMEN'S SOCIETY PRESENTING AND YOUR WIFE BEING THE PRESIDENT.

YOU'LL ALSO DECLARE A CONFLICT FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

I WILL NOT. I THINK IT'S OKAY.

AND SHE WON'T BE PRESIDENT AFTER WEDNESDAY.

AND SHE'S NOT MAKING THE PRESENTATION.

DID YOU SAY SHE WON'T BE PRESIDENT AS OF WEDNESDAY? CORRECT. OKAY.

YOU STILL HAVE TO DECLARE A CONFLICT FOR TODAY BECAUSE SHE'S PRESIDENT TODAY.

BUT FOLLOWING WHEN SHE'S NO LONGER PRESIDENT, YOU'D BE ABLE TO NOT RECUSE YOURSELF FROM THE MEETINGS.

OKAY, WELL, I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE FOR NOW, BUT I DON'T HAVE AN OPINION FROM THE INTEGRITY COMMISSIONER, SO I'LL TAKE YOUR LEAD MADAM CHAIR.

IF WE CAN GET AN OPINION FROM LEGAL HERE OR IF WE NEED A MOMENT FOR THAT. MS. BASSI-KELLETT JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT I UNDERSTOOD THIS WAS EXACTLY THE DEFINITION OF COMMUNITY OF INTEREST.

NO, BECAUSE YOUR WIFE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD, AND THE BOARD IS PRESENTING TONIGHT.

MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU.

YES, WE WOULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO FORMULATE AN OPINION ON THIS, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO SO.

THANK YOU.

OKAY. LET'S TAKE A QUICK FIVE MINUTE RECESS, JUST MS. BASSI-KELLETT AND [INAUDIBLE] IF WE CAN CHAT QUICKLY.

WE WILL RECONVENE AT 7:10 P.M..

IF YOU'D LIKE TO PROVIDE FURTHER INFORMATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YOUR WORSHIP.

AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILLOR FEQUET.

WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY RECOMMEND, FROM ADMINISTRATION'S POINT OF VIEW, FROM A LEGAL POINT OF VIEW, THAT THERE IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT YOU WOULD HAVE IN THIS SCENARIO.

THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR FEQUET WOULD YOU LIKE TO DECLARE A CONFLICT? UM, SURE.

YEAH. I'LL.

YEAH. OKAY.

SO WE'LL NOTE IT FOR THE MINUTES.

AND THEN FOR THAT SECTION YOU JUST WOULD EXCUSE YOURSELF WHICH WE'LL TAKE BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'RE OFFLINE.

SO SEEING NOTHING FURTHER.

THE NEXT IS CORRESPONDENCE AND PETITIONS.

THERE WAS NO CORRESPONDENCE NOR WERE THERE ANY PETITIONS FOR THE AGENDA.

THERE WERE NO STATUTORY PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE AGENDA.

WE DO HAVE DELEGATIONS PERTAINING TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

[8. Public presentations regarding the 2024 Budget:]

WE HAVE THREE PRESENTATIONS.

ONE IS FROM MAKERSPACE YK, ONE IS FROM THE YELLOWKNIFE WOMEN'S SOCIETY AND ONE IS FROM FOLK ON THE ROCKS.

I WILL JUST READ.

I BELIEVE EVERYBODY, ALL THE PRESENTERS ARE HERE RIGHT NOW, SO I'LL JUST READ THE KIND OF THE RULES ONCE INSTEAD OF AT THE START OF EVERYBODY'S PRESENTATIONS.

SO THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURES APPLY TO ALL DELEGATIONS BEFORE COUNCIL.

ONE ALL DELEGATIONS SHALL ADDRESS THE REMARKS DIRECTLY TO MYSELF, THE PRESIDING OFFICER, AND SHALL NOT POSE QUESTIONS TO INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OR ADMINISTRATION, OR DEVIATE FROM THE

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TWO EACH PRESENTER SHALL BE AWARDED FIVE MINUTES TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.

THREE THE TIME ALLOWED TO EACH PRESENTER MAY BE EXTENDED BY UP TO TWO MINUTES BY A SPECIAL RESOLUTION OF COUNCIL.

FOUR, AFTER A PERSON HAS SPOKEN, ANY COUNCIL MEMBER MAY THROUGH MYSELF ASK THAT THE DELEGATION OR THE CITY MANAGER RELEVANT QUESTIONS.

FIVE NO DEBATE SHALL BE PERMITTED ON ANY DELEGATION TO COUNCIL, EITHER BETWEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS OR WITH AN INDIVIDUAL MAKING A DELEGATION, AND WHEN MAKING A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL, NO PERSON SHALL ONE SPEAK DISRESPECTFULLY OF THE CROWN, ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL, THE PUBLIC OR AN EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY TWO USE OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE.

THREE MAKE PERSONAL REMARKS ABOUT ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL, THE PUBLIC, OR AN EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY.

FOUR REFLECT UPON THE MOTIVES OF MEMBERS WHO HAVE VOTED FOR A PARTICULAR MOTION.

FIVE REFLECT UPON THE MOTIVES OF ADVICE GIVEN TO COUNCIL BY ADMINISTRATION, OR SIX REFUSE TO COMPLY WITH THE DECISION OF MYSELF, THE PRESIDING OFFICER, REGARDING ANY INTERPRETATION OF THIS BYLAW.

AND THEN ONCE WE HEAR A DELEGATION, COUNCIL CAN REFER THIS MATTER TO ADMINISTRATION OR APPROPRIATE STANDING COMMITTEE LIKE OUR GOVERNANCE AND PRIORITIES COMMITTEE, OR CONSIDER A MOTION ON THE PRESENTATION OR HEAR THE PRESENTATION AS PRESENTED.

SO WITH THAT COUNCILLOR COCHRANE, YOU CAN EXCUSE YOURSELF FIRST.

AND MY APOLOGIES, I WILL PULL UP.

FIRST UP MAKER SPACE, WE HAVE KRISTEL DERKOWSKI.

SORRY. AND AILEEN LING WITH MAKER SPACE.

AND SO YEAH, JUST COME ON UP.

PRESS THE BUTTON ON.

THERE YOU GO. ALL OVER TO YOU.

THANKS. SO I'M KRISTEL DERKOWSKI.

I'M THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF MAKER SPACE YK.

THIS IS AILEEN LING, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

WE'RE LOOKING TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR OUR ONGOING OPERATIONS IN THE YEAR 2024.

AND SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HIGHLIGHT IN THIS PRESENTATION IS JUST THAT THE CITY HAS PUT OUT A LOT OF OBJECTIVES, GOALS, STRATEGIES, PLANS THAT ALIGN WITH WHAT MAKER SPACE IS DOING AND THAT BY SUPPORTING US, YOU CAN ACHIEVE SOME OF YOUR OTHER OBJECTIVES AND GOALS WITHOUT HAVING TO START ANY BRAND NEW INITIATIVES OR HIRE NEW POSITIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I'LL HAND IT OVER TO AILEEN TO TALK ABOUT MAKER SPACE.

IN CASE ANYONE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT MAKER SPACE IS.

WE'RE A NONPROFIT MAKER SPACE.

WE HAVE A WOOD SHOP, DIGITAL FABRICATION LAB, AND MULTI-PURPOSE CREATIVE SPACE.

WE OFFER WORKSHOPS, PROGRAMING AND MEMBERSHIPS TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SKILL BUILDING VIA ACCESS TO OUR TOOLS AND FACILITIES.

OUR MISSION IS TO MAKE SKILL BUILDING ACCESSIBLE, WHICH IS A PRETTY WIDE UMBRELLA, AND OUR VISION IS TO EMPOWER AND PROVIDE A SPACE FOR INDIVIDUALS TO GAIN CONFIDENCE, BUILD PRACTICAL SKILLS, AND GROW CREATIVELY SO THAT WE CAN BUILD A STRONGER, MORE RESILIENT AND VIBRANT COMMUNITY TOGETHER.

SO WE DO THIS BY BUILDING UP INDIVIDUAL SKILL SETS, BRINGING TO TOGETHER THE COMMUNITY, AND THEN OF COURSE, BUILDING UP THE ORGANIZATION.

SO THE FIRST AREA OF ALIGNMENT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT QUICKLY IS JUST THE ARTS AND CULTURE MASTER PLAN THAT WAS PUT OUT IN 2022 BY THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE.

SO THE HIGHLIGHTED QUOTE FROM THE PLAN AT THE FRONT IS, NEW SPACES SUCH AS THE YELLOWKNIFE TOURIST CENTRE AND MAKER SPACE YK PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPLORE FOR USE BY AND FOR ARTS AND CULTURE.

SO THAT'S A LINE RIGHT OUT OF THE MASTER PLAN, AS ARE THE REST OF THE BULLET POINTS ON THIS LIST.

ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE FIT IN UNDER REALLY WELL IS SPACES AND PLACES.

SO OBJECTIVE NUMBER ONE UNDER SPACES AND PLACES, ASSESS AND PLAN FOR CULTURAL INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND OBJECTIVE NUMBER TWO, CONNECT ARTS AND AUDIENCES WITH SPACE TO CREATE AND ENGAGE IN THE ARTS.

AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT MAKER SPACE IS ABSOLUTELY DOING AS WELL AS UNDER LEADERSHIP AND SUPPORT.

SO ESTABLISHING STRONG CITY LEADERSHIP AROUND ARTS AND CULTURE THAT COULD BE DONE BY SUPPORTING MAKER SPACE, FACILITATING CAPACITY BUILDING FOR THE ARTS SECTOR, INCREASING THE VISIBILITY OF ARTS AND CULTURE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

INGRAINING ARTS AND CULTURE INTO THE IDENTITY OF THE CITY AND REDUCING BARRIERS TO ARTS AND CULTURE PARTICIPATION.

THAT'S A BIG ONE THAT WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN TRYING TO ACHIEVE.

SO SOME EXAMPLES OF HOW WE'RE DOING THESE THINGS REALLY QUICKLY.

JUST A FEW SHORT EXAMPLES.

OKAY. QUICK RUN THROUGH.

WE HAVE A MONTHLY ART CRIT NIGHT THROUGH YK ARC THAT HAPPENS, AND IT'S PRETTY WELL ATTENDED BY ARTISTS AROUND YELLOWKNIFE.

IN FEBRUARY, WE HELD A PAN-AFRICAN ART EXHIBITION WITH BACKUP NORTH AND HOSTED THEM.

WE DID KIND OF A FUN ART TENT FOR FOLKS OF ALL AGES THAT FOLK ON THE ROCKS.

AND THEN AN UPCOMING PROJECT WE HAVE IS CALLED AUGMENT YK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH [INAUDIBLE].

AND THAT'S BUILDING UP CAPACITY FOR BOTH DIGITAL AND PHYSICAL ARTS WITH YOUTH.

OKAY. A COUPLE OTHER THINGS WE HAD WERE THE SEAL AND FEATHER INTENSIVE WORKSHOP IN FEBRUARY.

AND THEN LAST NOVEMBER WE HAD FOLK ON THE ROCKS, TWO ARTISTS RESIDENCY PERFORMANCES, WHICH WILL ALSO HAPPEN AGAIN NEXT YEAR.

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AND THEN ON TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY THAT WAS RELEASED BY THE CITY FOR 2024 SORRY 2022-2024.

ONE OF THE GOALS IN THERE IS EXAMINE THE FEASIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING AN INCUBATOR, ACCELERATOR, MAKERSPACE OR INNOVATION CENTRE.

WE'D LIKE TO ARGUE THAT WE HAVE EXAMINED THE FEASIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING A MAKERSPACE AND UNDER THAT BULLET POINT, AS WELL, WORK WITH THE GNWT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND OTHER PARTNERS TO ESTABLISH AN INCUBATOR OR ACCELERATOR.

AND WE WERE FUNDED BY THE GNWT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND, OF COURSE, ARE ANOTHER PARTNER.

ALSO IN THE KEY PRINCIPLES OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY, SORT OF RECOGNIZING THAT IT WILL BE ABSOLUTELY KEY TO WORK WITH PARTNERS BECAUSE THE CITY CAN'T DO EVERYTHING ON ITS OWN. THAT'S LISTED AGAIN UNDER PRIORITY ACTIONS AND THEN AGAIN ASSISTING KEY CHAMPIONS IN THEIR EFFORTS TO IMPLEMENT DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES AND KEY INITIATIVES.

AND SUPPORTING THE DEVELOPMENT OF SOCIAL ENTERPRISES.

SO WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH A COUPLE EXAMPLES OF HOW WE'RE SORT OF TRYING TO ACHIEVE THESE GOALS OF ESTABLISHING AN INCUBATOR OR INNOVATION CENTRE.

YEAH, I'LL KIND OF FOCUS IN ON ONE PROGRAM CALLED DON'T FAKE IT, MAKE IT, BECAUSE WE'RE ALSO RUNNING IT AGAIN THIS YEAR.

IT'S A YOUTH PROTOTYPING AND STARTUP PROGRAM.

WE'RE RUNNING IT WITH INSPIRE GNWT, AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET ENTREPRENEURS ON BOARD AS WELL.

SO I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUTH TO GET INVOLVED IN DIFFERENT TYPES OF ENTREPRENEURSHIP INITIATIVES.

SO WE TALKED REALLY QUICKLY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG FIVE MINUTES IS, BUT THIS IS THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR OPERATIONAL SUPPORT.

FUNDING WOULD BE GREAT.

WE'VE SUGGESTED $40 TO $50,000.

BUT WE'RE WE'RE VERY FLEXIBLE.

WE CAN WORK ON DIFFERENT WAYS TO MEET BOTH THE NEEDS OF MAKERSPACE AND THE CITY.

SO SORT OF JUST LOOKING INTO PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AND YEAH, SUPPORTING OUR OPERATIONAL COSTS GOING FORWARD WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE NOT EVERYTHING COMES CAN BE FUNDED BY BY GRANTS.

SO LAST POINT THERE IS JUST THAT BY GETTING MORE PUBLIC FUNDING, WE'RE ABLE TO REDUCE THE BARRIERS TO ENTRY FOR OUR PROGRAMING AND OFFER AT A LOWER COST AND BE MORE INCLUSIVE OVERALL.

THANK YOU.

OPENING IT UP TO QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.

COUNCILLOR WARBURTON. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, AND THANKS FOR PRESENTATION.

YEAH, I FIND THIS SPACE PRETTY AMAZING.

IT'S A FORMER BUILDING OF MINE WHICH I USED TO BE REALLY SAD BAR, AND TO SEE WHAT IT IS NOW IS A REALLY A GREAT THING TO SEE.

JUST CURIOUS, SO YOU FOLKS GET A TAX ABATEMENT CORRECT FOR THE SPACE? AND REVENUE WISE.

AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, SORRY.

THEY NODDED YES.

FOR THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING ONLINE.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND THEN CAN I GUESS REVENUE WISE, WHAT OTHER STREAMS IS MAKERSPACE KIND OF WORKING ON OR HAVE ON THE GO TO KIND OF MAKE THE SPACE SUSTAINABLE? YEAH, WE HAVE SOME PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, SO SOMETIMES THEY'LL PAY LIKE SPACE RENTAL FEES, SOMETIMES THEY'LL DO CUSTOM WORKSHOPS.

WE'RE ALSO DEVELOPING MORE MEMBERSHIP CAPACITY AND WORKSHOPS SO THAT EVENTUALLY WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE A LOT OF OUR REVENUE STREAM COME FROM THAT.

SOME OTHER THINGS WE'RE LOOKING INTO, BUT IT'S A BIT IN THE EARLIER PHASES, IS IMPACT INVESTMENT AND ALSO LOOKING AT FOUNDATION GRANTS THROUGH OTHER CHARITIES. BUT IT KIND OF HAS TO COME THROUGH ANOTHER CHARITY BEFORE IT COMES TO US.

AWESOME. THANKS. AND THEN A QUESTION FOR ADMIN.

CAN I ASK THAT NOW? YEAH. SO I KNOW OUR FUNDING IS CAPPED AT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE PER YEAR.

WOULD FUNDING LIKE THIS KIND OF AFFECT THAT OR BE INCLUDED IN THAT PERCENTAGE? MS. BASSI-KELLETT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.

YEAH, IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING ONE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME VERY CLEAR PARAMETERS AROUND THE COMMUNITY GRANT FUNDING.

THERE ARE SOME PARAMETERS AROUND THAT.

AND OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT REMEMBERING ALL OF THE DETAILS OF IT.

WE KNOW THAT OPERATIONAL FUNDING IS ALWAYS A BIG DEMAND.

WE ALWAYS KNOW, AS THE PRESENTERS HAVE SAID, IT'S EASY TO GET SPECIFIC PROJECT FUNDING.

WHERE IT BECOMES VERY CHALLENGING IS THAT ONGOING STABILITY.

AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE A LITTLE CHALLENGED ON RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE EVERY YEAR, OF COURSE, THE COMMUNITY GRANT PROGRAM IS AN ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION THAT REALLY GOOD COMMUNITY GROUPS COME FORWARD AND ASK FOR SUPPORT THROUGH THAT WAY.

SO THE ONGOING OPERATIONAL FUNDING WOULD BE A BIT OF A CHALLENGE FOR US TO FIGURE OUT RIGHT NOW.

BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

YEAH. I'M SORRY, I WILL JUST I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU. MS. BASSI-KELLETT, FOR OUR 2% OF PROJECTED EXPENDITURES, I THINK IS THE CAP.

AND SO IF THIS WAS JUST A GRANT, YES, THAT WOULD APPLY TO IT.

IF THERE WAS A CONTRACT CONTRIBUTION AGREEMENT AND THEY WERE DOING WORK AND WE'RE CONTRACTED TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE CITY, WOULD IT BE CONSIDERED AS SOMETHING OTHER THAN A GRANT? YES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

IT WOULD BE. BUT AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE INTEREST IN ONGOING MULTIYEAR FUNDING.

BUT IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE SEPARATE FROM JUST THE COMMUNITY GRANT, IF THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE ALIGNING WITH EITHER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY, THE ARTS AND

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THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR, AND THANKS VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

YEAH, I WAS GOING TO ASK A SIMILAR ONE TO ROB, BUT IS IT MAKERSPACES GOAL TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT WITH MEMBERSHIPS AND RENTAL FEES? OR IS THE FEELING THAT GOVERNMENTS OR GRANTS NEED TO SUBSIDIZE THE SPACE IN ORDER TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE COST WISE? IDEALLY, THE ACTUAL O&M COSTS WOULD ALL BE COVERED SELF-SUFFICIENTLY THROUGH MEMBERSHIPS AND WORKSHOPS, AND THEN THE GOVERNMENT GRANTS WOULD GO TOWARDS LIKE SPECIFIC PROGRAMING.

SO LIKE DON'T MAKE IT MAKE IT MIGHT BE MORE OF A GOVERNMENT GRANT FUNDED PROGRAM.

AND THIS, WHERE YOU'RE AT NOW IS SORT OF LIKE AN INTERIM STEP, LIKE TRYING TO GET TO THAT SORT OF WHERE THE OWNER IS, IS SELF SUFFICIENT AND THEN SPECIFIC PROGRAMING.

SO WOULD THIS ARE YOU LOOKING FOR LIKE A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF YEARS OR TO A POINT WHERE IT'S SELF SUFFICIENT OR ANY SORT OF CRITERIA THERE? PROBABLY 3 TO 4 YEARS.

CURRENTLY WE HAVE SOME [INAUDIBLE] FUNDING IN FOR A THREE YEAR MULTIYEAR FUNDING AGREEMENT.

AND PART OF THAT IS ALSO LOOKING AT SOME AVENUES FOR US TO BECOME MORE SUSTAINABLE AFTER THAT.

AWESOME. THANK YOU. AND THEN A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR ADMIN.

SO THE MULTIYEAR FUNDING GRANTS CAN COVER O&M, BUT MAKERSPACE WOULD NEED TO GET COMMUNITY GRANT OR SPONSORSHIP GRANT FOR TWO YEARS IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THE MULTI-YEAR GRANT, AND THOSE DO NOT THOSE ARE TOWARD SPECIFIC PROJECTS OR EVENTS.

AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY? THE POLICY SAYS THAT IT CAN BE UP TO 30% OF A NONPROFIT PROGRAM OR PROJECTS, O&M OR CAPITAL BUDGET, BUT MS. BASSI-KELLETT ANYTHING FURTHER ON THAT ONE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'LL ASK MR. WHITE IF HE WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE PARAMETERS AROUND THE COMMUNITY GRANT FUNDING.

YEAH. THANK YOU. IT'S NOT TOP OF MIND RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S IT'S A MONTH.

WE'RE ABOUT A MONTH BEHIND ON THAT.

UM, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, THOUGH, IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR A MULTIYEAR FUNDING GRANT, THERE IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR AT LEAST ONE YEAR FUNDING UNDER THE SPONSORSHIP OR COMMUNITY GRANT PROGRAM.

I THINK THAT WAS THE ANSWER YOU WERE LOOKING FOR.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE TO DO.

SORRY. I JUST HAVE TWO CONSECUTIVE YEARS TO GET THE MULTI YEAR.

AND IS THERE ANY FUNDING OR PROGRAMING THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY RUNNING OR PLANNING TO RUN, IN THE 2024 BUDGET UNDER ACTIVE OR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WOULD SERVE THE SAME GOALS OR PURPOSES OF SOME OF THE WORK DONE BY MAKERSPACE? MS. BASSI-KELLETT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.

SO WE ARE, OF COURSE, IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING BUDGET 2024 RIGHT NOW.

AND SO THERE ARE THERE ARE THERE IS FUNDING INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET TO ADVANCE SOME OF THE ISSUES UNDER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.

SO I'LL ASK MISS THISTLE IF SHE'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THE EXAMPLES OF SOME FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT MAY EXIST THERE.

SO IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND STRATEGY BUDGET, WE HAVE MANY, MANY DIFFERENT PROJECTS OR PRIORITIES MIGHT BE A BETTER WORD THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO WORK ON.

AND REALLY OUR GUIDING DOCUMENT IS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY AND THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

AND SO WE'VE MET WITH MAKERSPACE A COUPLE OF TIMES TO DISCUSS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF OVERLAPS.

FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY, IT TALKS ABOUT CREATING A BUSINESS INCUBATOR WILL REALLY MAKE YOUR SPACES DONE THAT.

SO THERE IS A LOT OF OVERLAP.

BUT WHERE THE PROBLEM LIES IS COMMITTING MULTIYEAR FUNDING, BECAUSE MY BUDGET IS ONLY SET EVERY YEAR, SO I CAN'T GUARANTEE MAKER SPACE THAT I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM THIS SET AMOUNT OF FUNDING EVERY YEAR.

THERE ARE DEFINITELY POTENTIALS FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER ON MANY OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAT MAKERSPACE IS WORKING ON. THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE ARTS AND CULTURE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN COMING FORWARD IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS TO WORK WITH MAKERSPACE AND THINGS LIKE OF THAT NATURE, BUT TO GUARANTEE MULTIYEAR FUNDING, WHICH IS ONE THING THAT THEY ARE STRUGGLING WITH, IS WHERE I WOULD STRUGGLE, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW FROM YEAR TO YEAR HOW MUCH EXTRA MONEY I MIGHT HAVE OR BUDGET I MIGHT HAVE TO HELP MAKERSPACE OUT, ON TOP OF ALL THE OTHER INITIATIVES THAT WE'RE ALSO BRINGING FORWARD, THAT WE BRING FORWARD TO ACCOMPLISH ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

SIX OF THE PRIORITIES WE DISCUSSED TODAY WERE THE HOTEL LEVY, VISITOR CENTRE, ARTS AND CULTURE, GOVERNANCE, SORRY, ARTS CENTRE

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THE FOR THE GALLERY TO OPERATE AT THE VISITOR CENTRE IS ABOUT $40,000 A YEAR.

SO OUR GENERAL BUDGET BECAUSE IT COVERS MANY INITIATIVES AND PRIORITIES.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE I WOULD STRUGGLE BE ABLE TO SAY TO MAKERSPACE, I DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE $40 OR $50,000.

HIGHLY UNLIKELY I'D EVEN HAVE THAT IN ANY SPECIFIC YEAR, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET THAT THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF LEEWAY IN.

SO DEFINITELY SEE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH MAKERSPACE, HUGELY APPRECIATE THE WORK THEY'RE DOING.

REALLY GLAD THAT THEY'VE ACCOMPLISHED THE WORK THEY HAVE, BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE BUILT A BUSINESS INCUBATOR AT THIS POINT.

SO IT'S AMAZING TO SEE THAT WORK GOING AND LOVE TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM MOVING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE, BUT DEFINITELY CAN'T COMMIT $40 -$50,000 FROM OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET AT THIS TIME, UNLESS IT WAS AT THE KIND OF IF IT UNLESS IT WAS DECREASING WHAT WE SPEND IN OTHER PLACES AND ON OTHER PROJECTS AND PRIORITIES.

THANK YOU. OR COUNCIL HAS TO ADD $40,000 MORE TO THE BUDGET.

YEAH, YEAH.

THANKS VERY MUCH FOR THE EXPLANATION.

I THINK IT MAKES A TON OF SENSE TO ME.

ALL THESE STRATEGIES EXIST.

AND TO LEVERAGE THIS THIS SPACE THAT EXISTS AND THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE.

SO I'D BE INTERESTED IN, IN LOOKING AT SOME SORT OF CONTRIBUTION, AGREEMENT OR WAY THAT THE CITY CAN USE THE SPACE TO ACHIEVE SOME OF THE GOALS RUNNING PROGRAMING THERE OR WHATEVER IT HAPPENS TO BE.

YEAH. IN TERMS OF SPECIFICALLY WHAT THAT MEANS, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE, BUT WOULD BE IN SUPPORT FOR SURE OF, OF SOME SORT OF BUDGET TO USE THE SPACE TO ACCOMPLISH SOME OF OUR STRATEGIC GOALS.

AND IF THAT MEANS SORT OF MOVING SOME FUNDING AROUND OR ADDING A LITTLE BIT, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ME.

THANK YOU. AND PROCESS WISE, COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT.

IT CAN TAKE THIS, DIGEST IT, AND WE CAN FOLLOW UP AT A FUTURE GPC OR AT BUDGET TIME.

COUNCIL CAN BRING FORWARD A INCREASE THIS BUDGET BY $40,000 OR $50,000, OR INCREASE THAT BUDGET BY $40 OR $50,000.

SO COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.

SORRY. ONE MORE IF IT WOULD BE.

AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT 2024 BUDGET, IF DEV COULD THINK PERHAPS ABOUT A WAY THAT SPECIFIC GOALS COULD BE ACHIEVED BY USING THE MAKER SPACE, AND MAYBE WHAT SORT OF MONEY WOULD HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN? AS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET, OR JUST LOOKING FOR SOME SORT OF, SOME SORT OF MORE SORT OF CONCRETE THING THAT THAT I DON'T HAVE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD RIGHT NOW. OKAY.

THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR MCGURK.

YEAH, THIS IS FOR ADMINISTRATION.

I'M WONDERING HOW MANY.

I GUESS, AS WAS MENTIONED, MAKERSPACES, WE WOULD THE THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO EXECUTE A BUSINESS INCUBATOR, AND MAKERSPACES SUCCESSFULLY ACHIEVED THAT.

AND I'M WONDERING HOW MANY GOALS OR SORT OF PROJECTS OR POINTS WITHIN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY MAKERSPACE IS, OR HAS WORKED ON, OR IS SUCCESSFULLY EXECUTED WHERE WE HAVE BEEN UNSUCCESSFUL.

AND IF THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH OUR OWN RESOURCES, I THINK WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN SHORT STAFFED IN THE PAST, AND IF WE ARE, WE HAVE A TEAM OF PEOPLE THAT IS ACTIVELY EXECUTING THIS ALREADY.

IS IT APPROPRIATE TO SAY THAT THEY THERE COULD BE A WAY TO LOOK AT THAT, THAT THERE'S MONEY? WE'RE NOT SPENDING MONEY ON STAFF TO EXECUTE THIS, BUT THERE'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS EXECUTING THIS.

CAN WE JUST PAY THEM INSTEAD? I THINK THE YELLOWKNIFE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WANTS THE MONEY TOO.

SO MS. BASSI-KELLETT PERHAPS TAKING THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT FOR ADMINISTRATION TO REVIEW THE STRATEGY AND COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH THAT INFORMATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ABSOLUTELY.

AND I MEAN, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THIS POINTED OUT THAT WE KNOW IS A PRETTY FUNDAMENTAL POINT THAT NO ONE DOES THINGS ON THEIR OWN.

COLLABORATION IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND IF WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY THAT CAN GO TOWARDS AMPLIFYING THE WORK THAT OTHERS ARE DOING, THEN THAT'S A REALLY IDEAL SITUATION.

CAN WE CARVE MONEY OFF AND CONTRACT OUT SOME OF THAT WORK? AGAIN, THERE'S LOTS OF PEOPLE LINING UP THAT WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

SO WE DO KNOW AND RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS WORK AND WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S A WE'LL LOOK AT SOME CREATIVE IDEAS WITHIN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY ITSELF.

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THANK YOU. I JUST THINK IT'S IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IF THAT IF WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE A GOAL AND THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO THAT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S AN EFFECTIVE OPPORTUNITY TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL THAT WE EXAMINED THAT I THINK THE THERE ARE A LOT OF POSITIONS THAT SAT EMPTY FOR A LONG TIME, I THINK. I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF NECESSARILY EXPLICITLY SUPPORTING MAKERSPACE OR ANY WHICH WAY.

BUT IF THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE LOOKING TO EXECUTE THIS WORK, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN AND SHOULD LOOK AT IN OUR IN OUR BUDGET IN GENERAL AND ACROSS THE BOARD FOR SURE.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR PAYNE.

THANK YOU. UM, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS HERE.

LIKE WHEN IT COMES TO.

LIKE IF AN ORGANIZATION IS APPLYING FOR A GRANT, WE SEE FINANCIALS JUST TO MAKE SURE, LIKE IN OUR DECISION, IF THIS ORGANIZATION ACTUALLY NEEDS THAT FUNDING OR NOT.

IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REQUEST BEFORE WE MADE A DECISION ON THIS? IF WE COULD REQUEST FINANCIALS FROM THE ORGANIZATION, I MEAN, YOU GUYS YOU GET A TAX ABATEMENT FROM THE CITY.

YOU HAVE AM I DID I JUST DREAM THIS THAT YOUR MORTGAGE IS PAID OFF? IT'S NOT PAID OFF.

IT'S NOT PAID OFF.

WAS THERE A GRANT THAT COVERED A LOT OF IT? YEAH. OKAY.

AND SO LIKE IT'S.

BUT I GUESS TO COUNCILLOR PAYNE'S QUESTION.

WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO PROVIDE COUNCIL WITH YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS? NOT THAT IT HAS TO BE TOMORROW, BUT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION BEFORE DELIBERATION.

NODDING HEADS. YES.

YES, ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, THERE'S NOT I FIND YOUR ORGANIZATION IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO YELLOWKNIFE.

I LOVE THE IDEA OF IT.

I HAVEN'T MADE MY WAY DOWN THERE YET TO USE YOUR FACILITY, BUT HOPEFULLY ONE DAY I WILL.

I WAS THERE FOR A IT WAS A LIKE A WOMAN IN TRADES EVENT, AND I FOUND THAT THAT WAS INCREDIBLY HELPFUL. BUT EVERY ORGANIZATION THAT COMES TO US.

IS. YOU KNOW, IS PUTTING FORWARD A PRETTY GOOD ARGUMENT, RIGHT? SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE WE COMMIT OR DENY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE PICTURE FOR ADMIN.

SO O&M COSTS ARE NOT ELIGIBLE IN GRANTS, BUT LIKE YOU SAID, YOU HAVE MEMBERSHIP TO COVER YOUR O&M COSTS.

WHEN IT COMES TO THE GRANT COMMITTEE, CAN WE APPROVE GRANTS FOR JUST ONE PROJECT OR CAN IT BE MULTI? LIKE MULTI PROJECTS.

YOU HAVE THE YOU HAD BROUGHT ONE PROJECT UP.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS CALLED.

I THOUGHT I WROTE IT DOWN HERE BUT CAN WE, CAN THEY APPLY FOR GRANTS FOR 2 OR 3 DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

BECAUSE THOSE GRANTS WOULD BE ABLE TO BE APPLIED FOR UNDER THAT, RIGHT? THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO APPLY AS ONE ORGANIZATION UP TO A MAXIMUM OF $10,000 UNDER THE COMMUNITY SERVICE GRANT.

SO IF THEY HAD LIKE SIX PROJECTS THAT EQUALED $10,000, WE'D WE'D LOOK AT THAT.

BUT THEY COULDN'T DO THIS MAKERSPACE ONE, THIS ONE, MAKERSPACE OR THIS ONE, IT'S ALL TOGETHER MAKERSPACE COULD GET UP TO $10,000, WHICH IS BETTER THAN THE [INAUDIBLE]. YEAH, OKAY.

THANK YOU. THAT'S IT.

AND IT IS STEP ONE.

AND THEN YOU DO THE SECOND YEAR AND THEN THE THIRD YEAR YOU COULD GET THE THE MULTI YEAR, WHICH IS THE THREE YEARS UP TO $50,000 A YEAR.

SO THE START OF IT.

ANYTHING FURTHER? YEAH, MY QUESTION WAS SAME AS COUNCILLOR PAYNE'S WITH I BELIEVE YOUR LAUNCH WAS LAST NOVEMBER, SO YOU'D BE COMING UP TO YOUR ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY.

AND SO PERHAPS YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR THIS FIRST OPERATING YEAR ISN'T COMPLETE.

BUT IF YOU DO HAVE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FROM PREVIOUS YEARS, IT'D BE GREAT TO SEE THAT JUST TO SEE AND AND IF YOU HAVE A BUDGET FOR YOUR UPCOMING YEAR AS WELL, TO SEE WHAT YOUR EXPENSES ARE AND IN THE BUDGET, ALSO YOUR REVENUES.

PEOPLE LOVE TO PUT JUST THEIR EXPENSES, BUT TO BE ABLE TO SEE REVENUES, THAT'S THAT'D BE GOOD TOO.

SO SOME INFORMATION THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE BEFORE MAKING A DECISION.

SEEING NOTHING FURTHER.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR FOR COMING TONIGHT, MADAM CHAIR.

COUNCILLOR FEQUET.

THANK YOU. UM, YEAH, JUST A QUESTION.

I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU MENTIONED THAT UP TO 30% OF O&M CAN BE FUNDED.

IS THAT IN THE MULTI-YEAR GRANT, OR DID I MISHEAR THAT OR WAS THAT SOMETHING ELSE?

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OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

I GUESS MY ONLY COMMENT IS I JUST WANTED TO SAY, LIKE I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION FOR MAKER SPACE.

I KNOW THAT THEY ARE A VERY VALUABLE ORGANIZATION TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND I KNOW THAT.

I THINK THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED IT FROM OUR STRATEGIC DIRECTIONS, FINDING OPPORTUNITIES TO AMPLIFY OR LEVERAGE OTHER FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE HELPING US CHECK OUR BOXES OF WHAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

SO I AM IN FAVOR AT SOME FUTURE POINT OF FINDING A WAY TO SUPPORT MAKER SPACE THROUGH SPECIFIC PROJECTS.

BUT IN PRINCIPLE, I DO HAVE KIND OF A, I GUESS, A RESERVATION ABOUT FUNDING AND O&MS FOR ANY ORGANIZATION, BECAUSE IF THE ORGANIZATION IS RELYING ON FUNDING FROM THE CITY TO BE SUSTAINABLE YEAR AFTER YEAR, THEN THAT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE IN THE LONG RUN FOR THE ORGANIZATION.

AND THERE NEEDS TO BE A DIFFERENT SOLUTION.

AND I APPRECIATE THE CITY'S POLICIES IN THAT REGARD AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT ORGANIZATIONS ARE SUSTAINABLE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I HOPE WE CAN GET A LITTLE BIT OF AN IDEA OF WHAT PROJECTS MIGHT FALL UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF MAKER SPACE OR OTHER INTERESTED ORGANIZATIONS, AND I WAS JUST WONDERING FOR FOR INFORMATION, HOW MANY CURRENT POSITIONS, IF ANY, ARE VACANT IN THE DEV DEPARTMENT? FULLY STAFFED.

WOO HOO! AS OF, I THINK.

JULY. JUNE.

YEAH. I ALSO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SEEING NOTHING FURTHER.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COMING TO PRESENT AND FOR THOSE WATCHING ONLINE, WE WILL HAVE IF THEY'RE NOT UP ALREADY, BUT THE PRESENTATIONS WILL BE POSTED SO PEOPLE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE PDFS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

WE CAN CALL COUNCILLOR COCHRANE BACK IN.

AND THEN COUNCILLOR FEQUET. YOU'LL EXCUSE YOURSELF FOR THIS PART, BUT NEXT UP WE HAVE THE YELLOWKNIFE WOMEN'S SOCIETY.

WE HAVE SHAUNA MORGAN.

I WAS ABOUT TO CALL HER COUNCILLOR MORGAN, SHAUNA MORGAN, A BOARD MEMBER, AND RENEE SANDERSON, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE YELLOWKNIFE WOMEN'S SOCIETY.

SO COME ON UP. MADAM CHAIR, JUST DOUBLE CHECKING.

IS COLE ABLE TO DO I HAVE TO DO YOU WANT ME TO HANG UP JUST BECAUSE I'M DRIVING? NO, NO, IT'S JUST FOR ONLINE PRESENCE.

WE JUST TELL PEOPLE TO HAVE THEIR CAMERA OFF, WHICH YOU ALREADY DO.

AND THEN WE JUST WOULDN'T ACCEPT QUESTIONS FROM YOU.

SO NO ACTION REQUIRED FROM YOU.

MY NAME IS RENEE SANDERSON.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR YELLOWKNIFE WOMEN'S SOCIETY.

AND THIS IS SHAUNA MORGAN.

SHE SITS ON OUR BOARD.

I GUESS JUST BEFORE WE START, I CAN JUST BRIEFLY SHARE WHAT THE YELLOWKNIFE WOMEN'S SOCIETY IS.

ESSENTIALLY, IT IS A GRASSROOTS CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION CREATED IN THE 1990S TO SUPPORT PARTICULARLY WOMEN WHO WERE MARGINALIZED IN THE COMMUNITY.

THE SOCIETY HAS SINCE EXPANDED THEIR SERVICES TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS TO BOTH VULNERABLE MEN AND WOMEN EXPERIENCING CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS, POVERTY, AND DISCRIMINATION IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND THROUGH COLLABORATION AND COMMUNICATIONS WITH OUR CLIENT USERS WE HAVE.

SORRY. WE HAVE CREATED UNIQUE SERVICES TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES THAT WE DO FACE, AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK TO IMPROVE THE I WOULD SAY TO IMPROVE THEIR NEEDS, THE RISK OF THE WOMAN AND THE NEED THAT THEY FACE IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND JUST TO SET THE CONTEXT FOR WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY AND THE OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE.

SO THE WOMEN'S SOCIETY IS JUST COMING OUT OF A STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS.

AND SO YOU CAN FIND THAT ONLINE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

AND WE HAVE DECIDED TO REALLY PUT FURTHER EMPHASIS ON INTEGRATING HARM REDUCTION APPROACHES THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION AND OUR PROGRAMS. AND ALSO THE PRINCIPLE THAT THE PARTICIPANTS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH AND SERVING WILL BE INCREASINGLY TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR OWN RECOVERY PROCESSES.

WE REALLY DON'T WANT IT TO.

SO WE WANT IT TO BE AN ORGANIZATION THAT SORT OF SUPPORTS TO EMPOWER PEOPLE IN THEIR JOURNEYS AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, GIVING HANDOUTS AND NOT HELPING PEOPLE MOVE FORWARD.

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AND WE ALSO IN REVIEWING YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN, SEE THAT THIS IS ALSO AN IDEA THAT I THINK HAS BEEN SUPPORTED IN GENERAL BY BY THIS COUNCIL, AND YOU MAY BE LOOKING FOR SOME BEST PRACTICE MODELS IN SERVING VULNERABLE POPULATIONS AND HARM REDUCTION THAT YOU COULD WORK WITH OTHER PARTNERS, SUCH AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE TERRITORIAL GOVERNMENT IN BRINGING TO LIFE.

SO WE SEE THIS AS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

AND ALSO WITH THE TERRITORIAL ELECTION COMING UP AND POTENTIAL CHANGE OVER, THERE'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY THERE TO GET SOME SOME NEW MODELS AND MOVE FORWARD.

[INAUDIBLE] SO THE ENTRY LEVEL NOW WE DO THE PATROL STREETS.

WE PATROL STREETS LOOKING FOR THOSE NEEDING ASSISTANCE.

WE OFFER BASIC NEEDS SUCH AS FOOD, WATER, BASIC FIRST AID AND OFFER SAFE RIDES TO SAFE LOCATIONS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO THE ADVANCED CARE MODEL WHERE THE ADVANCED CARE MODEL WOULD PROVIDE MEDICAL SERVICES, EMERGENCY FIRST AID, CASE MANAGEMENT, HARM REDUCTION AND SOME PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES IN A MOBILE CARE UNIT WITH FOOT PATROL UNITS AT THE SAME TIME.

GOOD. SO THAT'S SORT OF THE GENERAL OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.

BUT JUST TO STEP BACK FOR A SECOND, YOU KNOW, THE THE OVERALL PURPOSE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH STREET OUTREACH IS TO GO TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE.

MEET THEM WHERE THEY'RE AT, BOTH PHYSICALLY, THEIR PHYSICAL LOCATIONS, BUT ALSO JUST THEIR SITUATION IN LIFE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, BRINGING HEALTH SERVICES TO WHERE THEY'RE AT NOW INSTEAD OF NEEDING THEM TO COME INTO A HOSPITAL OR ACCESS SERVICES. AND ALSO IN TERMS OF HARM REDUCTION.

SO WE WANT TO SUPPORT PEOPLE AND NOT WE WANT TO SUPPORT PEOPLE AND TRY TO HELP STABILIZE THEM WHERE THEY'RE AT NOW SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT HAVING SORT OF PREREQUISITES THAT YOU HAVE TO BE THIS, THIS AND THIS BEFORE YOU CAN ACCESS SERVICES.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE STREET OUTREACH VAN IS SORT OF A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF, OF A SERVICE THAT CAN GO TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE AT, ALSO CREATE RELATIONSHIPS RIGHT ON AN ONGOING BASIS SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON WITH THIS PERSON LAST MONTH, TODAY, AND KEEP TRACK OF PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO ACCESS OTHER GOVERNMENT SERVICES.

AND OBVIOUSLY AND I THINK THIS HAS BEEN PART OF THE CITY COUNCIL'S MOTIVATIONS IN THE PAST TOO, IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE BURDENS ON EMERGENCY SERVICES SUCH AS THE AMBULANCE.

ALSO, POLICE AND OVERALL JUST IMPROVE BOTH PERCEPTION AND ACTUAL PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, BUT OTHER KEY LOCATIONS AROUND TOWN.

SO THAT'S THE GENERAL THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE HERE, AND WE SEE THE ADVANCED CARE MODEL AS BEING ABLE TO BETTER ACHIEVE THESE GOALS.

UH, OKAY.

CURRENT PROBLEM. PROBLEM.

CURRENT PROGRAM LIMITATIONS.

CITY'S ANNUAL BUDGET OF $360,000 PLUS TEN K IN DONATIONS.

SO CURRENTLY WE ARE PROVIDING 12 HOURS OF DAILY BASIC OUTREACH SERVICES.

TEAMS OF TWO STREET OUTREACH, STREET OUTREACH WORKERS AND SUPPORTED BY A TEAM LEAD.

CURRENTLY, STAFF WAGES ARE $23 AN HOUR COMPARED TO SHELTER STAFF WHERE THEY'RE AT $35 TO $42 AN HOUR, AND 2023. THERE HAS BEEN AN INCREASED DEMAND OF FIVE RIDES PER DAY COMPARED TO 2022.

GAP'S CASE MANAGEMENT TO HELP ACCESS FURTHER SERVICES AND SUPPORTS, INCLUDING APPOINTMENTS.

BASIC AND ADVANCED EMERGENCY HEALTH SERVICES FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE AN APPOINTMENT OR ARE NOT WILLING TO WAIT IN THE E.R..

HARM REDUCTION SERVICES, INFORMATION, COUNSELING KITS, AND SAFE, ACCESSIBLE LOCATIONS TO TAKE PEOPLE.

SO THAT'S SO EXTEND TWO MINUTES.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MCGURK. SECOND BY COUNCILLOR COCHRANE.

ANYBODY OPPOSED? SEEING NONE.

YOU CAN CONTINUE. OKAY.

AND SO GIVEN THOSE GAPS, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING THAT WE WANT TO MOVE TOWARDS.

SO HAVING ADVANCED FIRST AID ON BOARD MOBILE.

SO THAT WOULD BE IN THE FORM OF A PARAMEDIC.

AND SO WE'VE LAID OUT IN THE BRIEFING NOTE MORE DETAILS ABOUT DIFFERENT KINDS OF PARAMEDICS THAT ARE POSSIBLE.

BUT OVERALL WE WOULD LIKE A PARAMEDIC THAT COULD OFFER THINGS LIKE WOUND MANAGEMENT, EVEN ADMINISTERING SOME MEDICATION, HAVING SOME ABILITY TO OFFER CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES. SO MAYBE YOU'RE IF YOU'RE HELPING KEEPING TRACK OF PEOPLE, YOU CAN EVEN HELP SUPPORT THEM IN ATTENDING MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS, KEEPING TRACK OF WHEN THOSE

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SO WE COULD GO FURTHER IN THIS.

HAVING SAFE USE KITS ON BOARD TO GIVE OUT, AND EVEN SOME INITIAL DRUG AND ALCOHOL COUNSELING OR HELPING REFER PEOPLE TO THOSE SERVICES, AND ALSO SOME PUBLIC HEALTH OUTREACH IN MOBILE FORM WOULD BE PRETTY REVOLUTIONARY.

SO EVEN POTENTIALLY THINGS LIKE IMMUNIZATIONS OR TESTING FOR COMMUNICABLE COMMUNICABLE DISEASES, ALL THOSE THINGS COULD HAPPEN IN A MOBILE FORM.

AND SO WE HAVE JUST A BROAD BRUSH STROKES.

WE'VE COSTED THIS OUT IN CONSULTATION WITH AMS AT ABOUT $1.1 MILLION PER YEAR, PLUS AN INITIAL START UP COST OF ABOUT $350,000 FOR VAN RETROFITS AND THE GEAR.

AND SO YOU COULD EITHER GET A NEW VAN BUILT IN A WAY THAT WOULD WORK FOR THIS, OR YOU COULD RETROFIT AN EXISTING VAN, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY COME MUCH SOONER OR TAKE MUCH LESS TIME TO RETROFIT AN EXISTING VAN.

AND JUST TO REMIND PEOPLE, TOO, THAT THIS KIND OF A MODEL WE BELIEVE WOULD GO MUCH FURTHER IN SUPPORTING THE CALLS FOR JUSTICE FROM THE NATIONAL INQUIRY INTO MISSING AND MURDERED INDIGENOUS WOMEN AND GIRLS AND AND THE CALLS TO ACTION FROM THE TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION COMMISSION REPORT.

DO YOU HAVE TIME TO KEEP GOING? JUST AT THE.

JUST AT THE END THERE.

WE COULD JUST I MEAN, SO IN THE BRIEFING NOTE, THERE'S SOME MUCH MORE DETAILED EXAMPLES OF OTHER CASE STUDIES.

BUT TO HIGHLIGHT ONE, I MEAN, THERE'S A PROGRAM IN OREGON THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS.

I MEAN, THIS IS NOT NEW AND SEEMS TO WORK SUPER WELL.

THEY REALLY INTEGRATE WITH THE POLICE SERVICE THERE, AND THEY FOUND THAT IT EVEN DIVERTS UP TO 8% OF CALLS TO POLICE.

AND BUT THERE'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT MODELS IN EACH PLACE.

WHITEHORSE IS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT MODEL BUT SIMILAR IDEA IN THAT YOU'RE OFFERING MOBILE SERVICES THAT ARE MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY OFFERING IN TERMS OF PUBLIC HEALTH, ADVANCED CARE, HEALTH CARE, AND CASE MANAGEMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO YEAH, YOU CAN READ MORE ABOUT IT IN THE BRIEFING NOTE OR FOLLOW UP WITH QUESTIONS AFTER.

PERFECT. THANK YOU.

OPENING IT UP TO QUESTIONS.

COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

DOES STREET OUTREACH HAVE ANY UNDERSTANDING OF WHY CALLS WOULD BE INCREASING IN THE FIRST FOUR MONTHS OF THIS YEAR, RELATIVE TO LAST YEAR? IT COULD BE THAT.

SO LAST YEAR WE DID STRUGGLE TO HAVE STAFF.

SO WE ARE MORE ON THE ROAD THIS YEAR ALSO SEEING MORE USE AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE, MORE AGGRESSION, PEOPLE BEING BANNED FROM SHELTERS. I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY CALL FOR IT.

THANK YOU. AND SO I'LL JUST ASK A QUICK QUESTION TO ADMIN AND THEN BACK WERE CALLS TO EMS INCREASING, DECREASING OR STAYING THE SAME OVER THE FIRST FOUR MONTHS OF THIS YEAR.

MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO A COMPARISON, BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY GET THAT.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THE STREET OR SORRY YK WOMEN'S SOCIETY HAVE ANY DATA TO SHOW THE EXTENT TO WHICH STREET OUTREACH REDUCES THE BURDEN ON EMS CALLS? SO WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO EMS STATS EITHER FROM POLICE OR AMBULANCE OR HOSPITAL.

BUT WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH OTHER PARTNERS TO HELP COMPILE THOSE AND AND SEE THE DIFFERENCE THAT MIGHT BE MAKING.

ALTHOUGH I SUPPOSE IT'S ALWAYS HARD TO KNOW WHAT THE OVERALL POOL OF PEOPLE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH IS OR SORT OF WHAT WHAT IS THE BASELINE? I KNOW THERE'S OCCASIONAL POINT IN TIME COUNTS, BUT ANYWAY, IT'S.

YEAH, IT MAKES SENSE.

YEAH, I'D BE INTERESTING. I'D BE REALLY INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT THE WHAT OUR EMS CALL VOLUMES WERE IN THE FIRST FOUR MONTHS OF THIS YEAR COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, JUST TO SORT OF COMPARE EVERYTHING AND CURIOUS ABOUT HOW CAHOOTS WAS [INAUDIBLE].

WHAT DATA THEY'RE USING TO CLAIM 3 TO 8% CALL DIVERSION.

BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THAT'S DONE.

HOW WOULD THIS EXPANSION TO THE PROGRAM BE AFFECTED BY, OR DEAL WITH THE LACK OF LOCATIONS TO DROP OFF RESIDENTS? WELL, OUR HOPE IS THAT HAVING THIS EXPANSION WOULD HELP WITH CASE MANAGEMENT, WERE MEETING PEOPLE, WHERE THEY ARE, WERE OFFERING SUPPORTS AND PROGRAMING TO THEM AND HELPING WITH THOSE AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIORS THAT THEY ARE SEEING IN THE SHELTERS, AND THAT THAT WAY WE'LL SEE LESS OF THEM BEING BANNED FROM THE SHELTERS.

I WAS GOING TO MENTION, TOO, IN TERMS OF THE INCREASE IN IN CALLS FOR SERVICE, AND THAT THERE ALSO IS FACTORS LIKE THE SOBERING CENTRE BEING SHUT DOWN FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.

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UM, WOULD THE ADDITION OF SO THE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PARAMEDICS EMR, PCP OR ACP STAFF MEMBER ALLOW THE VAN TO DROP OFF RESIDENTS AT STANTON? AND IF SO, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COST RECOVERY BY CHARGING THE GNWT FOR AN AMBULANCE SERVICE? SO OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE WITH A PARAMEDIC ON BOARD, THE VAN WOULD BE ABLE TO DROP PEOPLE OFF AT STANTON, BUT WE WOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN THE CITY'S RELATIONSHIP WITH THE GNWT ABOUT BILLING FOR AMBULANCE.

OKAY. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE SEEMS LIKE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR COST RECOVERY SHOULD WE CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN EXPANSION.

WOULD A NEW VAN BE REQUIRED TO OPERATE USING THE ACP MODEL, OR COULD A RETROFIT SERVE THAT PURPOSE? A RETROFIT WOULD SERVE IT AS WELL.

UM, AND JUST WONDERING WHAT SORT OF INTEGRATION WITH RCMP IN A MODEL SIMILAR TO CAHOOTS.

UM, HAVE YOU SORT OF TALKED TO RCMP ABOUT THAT OR ANY HOPE THERE ABOUT SORT OF, SORT OF GOING THROUGH THAT WAY? AND I GUESS THAT'S SORT OF FEDERAL FUNDING.

WE HAVEN'T AS YET SPOKEN WITH THE RCMP, BUT I THINK WE WERE HOPING THAT IF THERE IS SUPPORT FOR THIS KIND OF MODEL, THAT THE CITY MAY EVEN BE ABLE TO HELP CONVENE SOME OF THE PARTNERS, AND WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO BE PART OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND COLLABORATE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, BRINGING DIFFERENT PARTNERS TO THE TABLE TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE OR HOW THEY WANT POTENTIALLY THEIR SERVICES INTEGRATED WITH THIS TYPE OF MODEL.

THANKS. AND WOULD THERE BE ANY SET GOALS OR MEASURABLE TARGETS THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH A PROGRAM EXPANSION JUST TO GAUGE EFFECTIVENESS? I THINK THERE WOULD THERE WOULD DEFINITELY BE.

AND AS THIS MOVES FORWARD, YOU KNOW, MORE DETAIL MIGHT GET PUT INTO, WELL, MORE DETAIL WOULD NEED TO GET PUT INTO PROPOSALS AND PROGRAM DESIGN.

AND DEFINITELY THERE WOULD NEED TO BE SPECIFIC TARGETS AND OBJECTIVES.

AT THIS POINT. WE'RE TRYING TO PRESENT A BROAD APPROACH AND A POSSIBLE MODEL AND DIRECTION TO GO.

AND IF IT SEEMS THAT THERE IS SUPPORT FROM DIFFERENT PARTNERS FOR GOING THIS DIRECTION, THEN WE'D CERTAINLY WANT TO DIG INTO MORE DETAILS.

YEAH. AWESOME.

THANK YOU. AND THEN ONE QUESTION TO ADMIN.

AND THEN I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.

SO TO ADMIN HAS THERE BEEN ANY HISTORY OR IS THERE A MODEL WHERE THE CITY COULD SAY PUT UP $500,000 OR SOMETHING AND SAY WE'RE WE WANT TO HELP EXPAND THIS PROGRAM.

WE'RE WILLING TO CHIP IN $500,000 GNWT FEDS.

YOU DO $500,000 EACH.

AND THERE WE GO. AND IF THEY DON'T MEET IT, THEN IT'S ON THEM.

YOU KNOW, LIKE THE CITY PUTS UP SOME MONEY AND SAYS, COME ON, LET'S COME TOGETHER.

IS THERE ANY MODEL OR HISTORY OF DOING THAT? EVERY SINGLE YEAR AND IT FALLS ON THE TAXPAYERS OF YELLOWKNIFE.

MS. BASSI-KELLETT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT THAT COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN MAKES, BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY BENEFITS THAT COME TO ALL ORDERS OF GOVERNMENT FROM PARTICIPATING IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THE YK STREET OUTREACH, IT WAS FUNDED BY THE CITY, BUT THERE WAS A POINT IN TIME WHEN WE HAD SOME VERY STRONG ALLIES AT THE GNWT AND THEY CAME FORWARD WITH THEY COLLABORATED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SO THAT OUT OF THE ENTIRE THE THE BUDGET HAS REMAINED FAIRLY STABLE, FAIRLY STATIC AT $360, WE HAD A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PAID $200,000 OF THAT, AND THE GNWT PAID $50, LEAVING THE REMAINDER FOR THE CITY TO PICK UP.

THAT WAS A ONE TIME.

IT WAS GLORIOUS.

WE'VE NEVER SEEN IT SINCE.

WE CERTAINLY HAVE LOBBIED AND ASKED THE GNWT.

WE'VE WORKED WITH SOME OTHER PARTNERS.

THERE'S ALWAYS AN INTEREST IN SAYING, YEAH, IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM.

WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF WE WERE? WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU, WE'LL COME BACK AND WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION.

SO SADLY, WE HAVE NOT HAD THE SAME LEVEL OF SUPPORT AS WE DID IN 2018.

THAT HASN'T HAPPENED SINCE.

WE'D LOVE TO SEE IF THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES AGAIN TO DO SO.

IT HAS BEEN FLAGGED, IT HAS BEEN RAISED WITH INTEREST BUT NOTHING MORE THAN INTEREST.

SO WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO LOBBY ON THAT FRONT.

THERE CERTAINLY IS A RESPONSIBILITY AND A BENEFIT TO OTHER PARTNER GOVERNMENTS IN BEING ABLE TO COLLABORATE TO SUPPORT A MODEL LIKE THIS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND YEAH, TO ANY TERRITORIAL ELECTION CANDIDATES LISTENING.

YEAH, IT'S EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO PLAY A LEADERSHIP ROLE HERE, BUT I THINK THAT WE CAN AND SHOULD.

UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS AROUND THE BUDGET PROPOSALS, MY CALL KEPT DROPPING IN AND OUT.

SO I WOULD HAVE AND STILL WOULD SUPPORT PUTTING IN THE MONEY FOR THE PROGRAM EXPANSION INTO THE BUDGET BEFOREHAND.

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DO WE NEED TO TAKE THAT OUT? CAN WE TAKE SOMETHING ELSE OUT TO MAKE IT WORK AND LIVE WITH A TAX INCREASE IN BETWEEN? SO I WOULD FULLY SUPPORT, AS OPPOSED TO THE $100,000 TO REVIEW THE PROGRAM, PUTTING THE ASK FOR THE PROGRAM EXPANSION INTO THE BUDGET, AND THEN HAVING THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER THE CITY CAN AFFORD THAT OR NOT DURING DELIBERATIONS, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO ADD IT AFTER THE FACT.

I THINK, TOO, IF WE'RE ADDING REVENUE FROM AMBULANCE FEES, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO SHOW THOSE TWO THINGS NEXT TO EACH OTHER INSTEAD OF TRYING TO ADD THIS BIG EXPENSE WHEN THERE'S ALREADY THIS REVENUE IN HERE, THAT WE CAN SHOW THAT WE ARE OFFSETTING THE COST.

AND I GUESS IN THERE.

ONE MORE QUESTION FOR ADMIN.

DO WE KNOW I KNOW WE RAISED OUR AMBULANCE FEES LAST YEAR, BUT DO WE KNOW HOW THEY COMPARE TO OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE TERRITORIES NOW? AND DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW HOW MUCH WE WOULD HAVE TO RAISE THOSE FEES IN ORDER TO COVER A PROGRAM OF $1.1 MILLION? STILL LOWER THAN OTHER JURISDICTIONS BUT MS. BASSI-KELLETT, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.

AS WE'RE PREPARING SOME INFORMATION ON POTENTIAL REVENUE SOURCES FOR BUDGET 2024, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT WHAT SOME OF THOSE PERCENT INCREASES COULD LOOK LIKE FOR OUR EMERGENCY MEDICAL RESPONSE FEES, INCLUDING AMBULANCE.

SO WE'RE DOING SOME OF THAT RESEARCH RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION READILY AVAILABLE AT OUR FINGERTIPS RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF COLLECTING IT, AND IT WILL BE INFORMING HOW WE COME FORWARD WITH THE INFORMATION ON THIS AND BUDGET 2024.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. AND AS A PROGRAM EXPANSION, I THINK WOULD BE EFFECTIVE IN REDUCING CALL VOLUMES TO SOME EXTENT.

I THINK THE TWO CAN BE LINKED THAT WE'RE RAISING REVENUE FEES IN ORDER TO SUPPORT AN EXPANSION TO THE PROGRAM.

AND YEAH, SO FULLY SUPPORT INCLUDING THE WHOLE $1.1 AND THE $350 IN IN THE BUDGET AND THEN DELIBERATING ON IT AS A WHOLE.

ANOTHER REASON I SUPPORT THAT IS THE TIMING OR REVIEW OF THE PROGRAM.

NOW, A COUPLE YEARS BEFORE THE WELLNESS CENTRE IS SET TO OPEN, I THINK IS NOT AMAZING TIMING, JUST SEEING AS ONCE THE WELLNESS CENTRE OPENS, I'M GUESSING WE WOULD WANT ANOTHER REVIEW TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT INTEGRATES WITH THE SERVICES THAT DELIVERED ARE BEING DELIVERED.

SO I, I DON'T THINK A REVIEW IS WELL TIMED NOW.

I THINK A REVIEW IN 2026, ONCE THE WELLNESS CENTRE IS OPEN, WOULD BE A BETTER TIME.

AND AND WE CAN SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP AS A CITY BY SHOWING WE CAN EXPAND THIS PROGRAM AND AND YEAH, GETTING OTHER GOVERNMENTS ON BOARD AND IF WE NEED TO SHAME THEM FOR SURE.

BUT YEAH, I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF PUTTING THIS $1.1 IN THE BUDGET INSTEAD OF THE $100,000 FOR REVIEW.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILLOR WARBURTON. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

JUST I KNOW, AS YOU MENTIONED, THERE'S A NEW FACILITY COMING ONLINE A COUPLE OF YEARS, APPARENTLY AND HAVE YOU HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH HSF? I KNOW THEY USED TO HAVE A CONTRACTED MEDIC AT SOBERING CENTRE THAT WAS IN SOMEONE'S BUDGET AT ONE TIME.

SO ANY HAVE ANY CHATS WITH THEM ABOUT THIS? I DON'T. I DON'T THINK SO.

CERTAINLY WE CHAT WITH THEM LOTS OF LOTS OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND ISSUES, BUT NOT NECESSARILY SPECIFICALLY.

ABOUT THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE THEY I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE EVER BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE MOBILE STREET OUTREACH SIDE OF THINGS.

AND YOU DID REFER TO AMS. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR.

SO THE IDEA IS TO TO HAVE A CONTRACTED MEDICAL SERVICE PROVIDING THAT POSITION IN THAT VAN.

CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH. AND THEN I GUESS IT'S MORE OF A QUESTION, YOU KNOW, $350 FOR A VAN RETROFIT.

THAT'S A PRETTY ROUGH AND DIRTY RETROFIT.

WOULD THERE BE ANY OPTIONS? I GUESS IN FLEET WHEN WE RETIRE THINGS TO USE THEM AGAIN FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE KNOW THAT THE VEHICLE HAS BEEN QUITE A CHALLENGE.

LET'S BE BLUNT WHEN THIS WHOLE FIRST WHEN WE STARTED STREET OUTREACH, WE HAD AN OLD VEHICLE FROM THE RCMP, WHICH WAS NOT IDEAL. IT HAD BAD ASSOCIATIONS AND CONNOTATIONS WITH IT, AND IT WASN'T A VERY ATTRACTIVE VEHICLE TO A LOT OF THE CLIENTS AND RESIDENTS WHO WERE LOOKING AT BEING ABLE TO USE THAT.

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WE KNOW THAT'S BEEN PROBLEMATIC, AND THAT CAN AT TIMES LEAD TO MAJOR REPAIRS BEING NEEDED AND THE VAN BEING OFF THE ROAD FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.

SO I THINK IT IS QUITE A SPECIALIZED VEHICLE THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT CONSISTENTLY GOOD PROGRAMING AND GOOD SUPPORT THROUGH THE STREET OUTREACH PROGRAM.

DEFINITELY, THE VAN ITSELF NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S HARDY AND DURABLE AND CAN BE EASILY FIXED IN TOWN WITHOUT BEING TOO SOPHISTICATED, REQUIRING TOO FANCY A KIND OF A MECHANICAL LENS ON THINGS.

SO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S I KNOW THAT WE HAVE AT TIMES HAVE HAD DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, PRIVATE SECTOR HAS COME FORWARD WITH SUPPORT FOR VEHICLES, WHICH HAS BEEN REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATED.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S IT'S KIND OF A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE THEN YOU END UP TAKING WHAT IS GIVEN AND IT MAY NOT AGAIN BE AS IDEAL.

SO THE VEHICLE ITSELF HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE.

I KNOW IN THE, THE WORK THAT THE THE STREET OUTREACH VAN HAS BEEN ATTEMPTING TO DO, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO FOCUS ON TO STABILIZE IF IF THE VAN IS GOING TO BE CONSISTENTLY ON THE ROAD SUPPORTING PEOPLE.

THANKS VERY MUCH. I GUESS JUST IN GENERAL, I SUPPORT THIS BEING IN THE BUDGET AND I WOULD NOT WANT TO INCLUDE THE HUNDRED THOUSAND WE GOT COMING UP HERE SHORTLY FOR AGAIN FOR REVIEW. AS COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN SAID, WITH THE SHOPPING CENTRE COMING ONLINE AND WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED HERE.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME, SO I'D BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR ALTY FIRST, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND BOTH RENEE AND SHAUNA, THANKS FOR COMING TONIGHT.

THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO TO HELP OUR NEIGHBORS IN THE CITY.

SO MUCH APPRECIATED.

UM, THANKS AGAIN FOR SOME PROVIDING SOME REAL NUTS AND BOLTS AND FOR GOING OUT AND TALKING TO AMS AND SORT OF GETTING SOME HARD NUMBERS AROUND THIS.

SO JUST, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE MY OWN ACCURACY IN MY HEAD FOR THE PRESENTATION AND SORT OF THE ASK.

QUOTE UNQUOTE, FROM TONIGHT.

SO YOU WORKED WITH AMS, CAME UP WITH THE NUMBER.

IT'S NOT A PROPOSAL NECESSARILY TO LIKE $1.1 MILLION.

AND THEN THIS HAPPENS.

IT'S MORE A PROPOSAL OF $1.1 MILLION DETERMINED WITH AMS OF LIKE, HERE'S WHAT WE PRACTICALLY NEED AS A CITY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

NOW THERE'S GOING TO BE DISCUSSIONS AND PROBABLY LIKE, HOW DO WE ACTUALLY OPERATIONALIZE THIS BETWEEN CITY AND OPERATORS.

RIGHT. AM I CORRECT IN THAT? LIKE YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY SAYING $1.1 MILLION FOR THE WOMEN'S SOCIETY AND THEN THIS WILL HAPPEN.

IT'S MORE OF A WITH AMS YOU'VE ESTABLISHED THIS IS WHAT'S NEEDED FOR THE CITY.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ALL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT TOGETHER HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT. YEAH, I THINK THE, THE EXPECTATION IS THAT.

UH, THIS WOULD NEED TO BE MULTI LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT BEING INVOLVED IN THIS.

SO WE'RE USING THIS AS SORT OF A LAUNCHING POINT TO PROPOSE A CERTAIN MODEL OF PROGRAM THAT.

YEAH. TO TO HAVE CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS WITH, WITH DIFFERENT PARTIES AND PLAYERS.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS EXPECTING THE CITY TO COME UP WITH ONE ONE HALF MILLION DOLLARS TOMORROW AND SAY, GREAT, WE'RE WE'RE A GO.

BUT YEAH, CERTAINLY WE WANT TO BE PARTNERS WITH THE CITY IN GOING TO OTHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT OR OTHER POTENTIAL FUNDERS AND SAYING THAT THIS IS THIS IS NEEDED.

AND HOW DO WE MAKE THIS HAPPEN? NO. AND JUST LIKE A POINT TO CONSIDER IS WE DO GO OUT TO RFP.

AND SO THEN IT WOULD BE WE ADD A $1.1 MILLION AND THEN IT WOULD BE OPEN TO TO ANYBODY.

NO THANKS FOR THAT. THANKS FOR THE ANSWER.

THANK YOU MAYOR ALTY. JUST YEAH I DON'T KNOW, LIKE I HEAR WHAT COUNCILLOR WARBURTON COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN ARE SAYING.

YOU KNOW, MY MY HEART SAYS ABSOLUTELY.

AND I WOULD ACTUALLY BE IF I KNEW THAT SOMETHING COULD HAPPEN TOMORROW, I WOULD BE RIGHT ON BOARD WITH $1.2 MILLION, $1.1, $1.2 MILLION.

BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M STUCK IS THE THE PRACTICALITY.

NOW, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING MEANINGFUL COMING OUT OF THIS? SO I'M READY TO HAVE A LOT OF CONVERSATION DURING THE BUDGET TIME.

SO THERE'S A PART OF ME THAT'S LIKE, YES, PUT IT IN AS COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN SAID.

THEN WE CAN REALLY DEBATE THE STRUCTURE AND ALL OF THIS.

I'M ALSO CONSCIOUS OF THIS MIGHT BE THE SHINING BENEFIT OF A DELAYED BUDGET FROM THE EVACUATION, IS THAT THE TERRITORIAL ELECTION OR TERRITORIAL ELECTION WILL HAPPEN, AND RATHER THAN OUR BUDGET ALREADY BEING SET, WE WILL HAVE THE CHANCE TO TALK TO THE NEW MLAS AND MINISTERS BEFORE WE HAVE BUDGET DELIBERATION THIS YEAR.

SO ALL OF THAT IS TO SAY, THANKS FOR THE FOR THE PRESENTATION AND ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS.

AND I'M STILL UP IN THE AIR ON THE PROPOSAL, SO WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

BUT THANKS VERY MUCH. THANKS.

THE ONE CHALLENGE WITH THIS IS THAT THE GNWT APPROVES THEIR OPERATIONAL BUDGET, AND IT GENERALLY IS MID-MARCH TO THE END OF MARCH.

AND SO IT'S A CHICKEN AND EGG GAME WHERE WE PUT IN $1 MILLION AND SAY YES, AND NOW WE'LL HOLD THEM TO IT, AND THEN THEY DON'T.

AND WE'RE STUCK WITH TRYING TO FIND EXTRA FUNDING OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

SO IT IS ALWAYS THAT CHALLENGE, AND WHICH IS WHY THE MULTIYEAR FUNDING WOULD BE GOOD, BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD KNOW WHAT WE'VE GOT.

COUNCILLOR PAYNE, THANK YOU.

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NO, NO, IT WOULD THE THE PROGRAM INSTEAD OF COSTING $360 WILL COST $370.

BUT THE FUNDING IS FOR $360.

INSTEAD OF THAT IT WOULD BE A $1.1 MILLION PROGRAM.

BUT WE WOULD ALSO NEED THE INITIAL START UP OF THE 350 TO GET THE VAN RETROFITTED.

BUT AFTER THAT, THE ANNUAL COST, WE ESTIMATE WOULD BE ABOUT $1.1 MILLION.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT THE CITY TO CONTRIBUTE EVERY YEAR LIKE THAT, THAT AMOUNT TYPE THING, THERE WOULD BE ANNUAL OPERATIONAL FUNDING THAT WOULD NEED TO BE SUPPORTED SOMEWHERE.

SO I KNOW IT'S AN IMPORTANT IT'S AN IMPORTANT PROGRAM.

DEFINITELY.

I SEE THE VAN GOING ALL THE TIME.

MY THOUGHT ON THIS IS WE'RE A LITTLE BIT OF LIKE WE'RE A YEAR OR TWO EARLY, RIGHT? WE GOT A NEW GROUP GOING IN THE YELLOWKNIFE MLAS.

WHOEVER GETS IN THERE SHOULD BE FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL TO GET MONEY FOR THIS.

RIGHT. SO INSTEAD OF IT RESTING ON THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE SHOULDERS, WHICH EVERY YEAR IT SEEMS TO BE MORE AND MORE RESTING ON THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE SHOULDERS AND THE TAXPAYERS OF YELLOWKNIFE.

AND THERE'S GOING TO COME A TIME WHEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S JUST WITH THIS, WE COULD BE LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL 14 OR 15% TAX TAX INCREASE.

AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN MENTIONED HERE EARLIER THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE MONEY.

WE HAVE TO DO THINGS. AND AND I AND I GET IT.

BUT WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE HURTING CITY.

WE'RE HURTING POPULATION RIGHT NOW.

AND IF WE KEEP ADDING AND ADDING AND ADDING AND I DON'T MIND ADDING IF THERE'S OTHER PARTNERS COMING TO THE TABLE.

THE FEDS SHOULD BE PUTTING MONEY INTO DEFINITELY THE GNWT SHOULD BE PUTTING MONEY IN AND WHATEVER WE DO.

EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE PUT IN IS SOMEBODY IN THE GNWT IS LOOKING AND SAYING, OKAY, THAT'S A DOLLAR THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT IN.

SO RIGHT NOW I'M JUST I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

I KNOW IT'S AN IMPORTANT PROGRAM RIGHT NOW AT THIS AT THIS POINT, I WOULDN'T BE IN SUPPORT OF IT UNTIL WE GET SOME ACTUAL PROMISES FROM THE GNWT, MAYBE EVEN THE FEDS, THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PARTNER IN THIS AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THIS JUST ON OUR SHOULDERS, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. JUST A REMINDER.

WE'RE JUST TO QUESTIONS.

COUNCILLOR MCGURK. AND THEN COUNCILLOR COCHRANE.

YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ADMINISTRATION, WHICH IS THAT IF WE WERE TO SUPPORT A PROGRAM LIKE THIS AND THERE WAS A PARAMEDIC ON STAFF WITH STREET OUTREACH, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO SEND DISPATCHERS THEIR WAY, LIKE, SAY, IF SOMEONE CALLED THE CITY FOR AN AMBULANCE AND THEY ASSESSED THAT THAT WAS NOT THE NEED, OR THEY CALLED THE EMERGENCY SERVICES AND THEY ASSESSED THAT A PARAMEDIC WOULD BE SUFFICIENT, CAN WE WOULD WE BE ABLE TO THEN ADMINISTER OUR DISPATCHERS ADMINISTER OR DISPATCH THE STREET OUTREACH EVENT AS OPPOSED TO AN AMBULANCE. MS. BASSI-KELLETT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.

AND IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE CERTAINLY BEEN LOOKING AT AND CONSIDERING, EVEN WITH THE CURRENT MODEL OF THE YELLOWKNIFE STREET OUTREACH PROGRAM RIGHT NOW, CERTAINLY HAVING A CELL NUMBER TO CALL.

WE KNOW THAT THAT NUMBER IS REASONABLY KNOWN AROUND TOWN, BUT WE DO THINK THAT THERE IS A LOT OF MERIT TO BE HAD IN TERMS OF A CENTRALIZED DISPATCH THAT COULD SUPPORT THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF PROGRAMING AND DIFFERENT KINDS OF NEEDS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT.

WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS SOME POTENTIAL MERIT TO THAT.

THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER ISSUES AS WELL THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IN TERMS OF HOW THAT WOULD BE MANAGED.

BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY THE CITY IS OPEN TO LOOKING AT.

THANK YOU. UM, OKAY.

SO I GUESS THERE IS A POTENTIAL TO FURTHER DECREASE EMS COSTS OR EMERGENCY MEDICAL.

COSTS ON OUR END, ON THE CITY'S END, IF WE WERE TO HAVE A CENTRALIZED DISPATCH, BECAUSE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REDIRECT CALLS THAT WOULD REQUIRE A FULLY STAFFED AMBULANCE, OR IS THAT NOT AM I NOT THINKING CORRECTLY ON THAT? I THINK IT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE INVESTIGATED AFTER LOOKING AT WHAT THIS MODEL WOULD ACTUALLY BE, AND THEN LOOKING AT, WE ALSO HAVE OUR EMERGENCY.

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THAT'S EXACTLY IT. SO, I MEAN, RESPONDING TO EXACTLY HOW EVERYTHING WOULD FIT TOGETHER SEAMLESSLY WITH THE PROPOSED MODEL RIGHT NOW THAT'S BEING PITCHED, THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH AND WORK THAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO TO SEE HOW THAT WOULD FIT IN WITH OUR CURRENT MANDATED RESPONSIBILITIES AROUND AMBULANCE SUPPORT, AND WITH HOW THIS COULD ALL BE CENTRALIZED THROUGH SOME SORT OF A ONE STOP CALLING THAT COULD BE EASY FOR USERS AND RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO USE.

THANK YOU. THANKS, I APPRECIATE IT.

SO ONE MORE ON THAT SPECIFIC TOPIC IS.

SO THE ANSWER IS UNLESS WE WERE TO HAVE A CENTRALIZED DISPATCH SYSTEM, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE CALLS THAT WE RECEIVE AS A CITY AND REDIRECT THEM TO STREET OUTREACH. AND IS THAT LIKE IF OUR DISPATCHER WERE TO RECEIVE A CALL AND SAY, YOU DON'T REALLY NEED AN AMBULANCE, YOU JUST NEED A PARAMEDIC STAFF VAN.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A PRETTY GOOD LEGAL ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE HOW WE COULD SAY OVER THE PHONE LIKE, NO, WE'RE NOT SENDING AN AMBULANCE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO SEND STREET OUTREACH. SO YEAH, BUT IT'S IT IS SOMETHING THAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS HAVE LOOKED AT.

SO WE'LL JUST HAVE TO SEE HOW IT WORKS IN OUR LEGAL FRAMEWORKS.

YEAH. IT'S KIND OF I KIND OF ASSUMED THAT THAT WAS THE THAT'S THE FUNCTION OF THE CENTRALIZED DISPATCH WOULD KIND OF DEAL WITH THAT LEGAL SORT OF ISSUE. OKAY.

WELL, I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION.

THANK YOU. I'M REALLY IN SUPPORT OF US TRYING TO HELP THE WOMEN'S SOCIETY BRING TOGETHER THE PARTNERS, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT THIS HAS BEEN AN INITIATIVE THAT WE'VE TAKEN, WE'VE SUPPORTED AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT.

AND SO I THINK WE DO HAVE A BIT OF A RESPONSIBILITY THERE TO HELP THEM BRING THAT, BRING THIS IDEA TO THE TABLE FOR FURTHER OTHER PARTNERS.

AND I AGREE WITH WITH FELLOW COUNCILORS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS IN THE BUDGET GOING FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IT FURTHER LATER.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR COCHRANE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.

AND THANK YOU, RENEE AND SHAUNA AND YOUR BOARD AMS FOR DOING ALL THIS WORK.

THIS IS GREAT.

UM, A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

I SEE THAT THE BIGGEST EXPENSE WILL BE THE STAFF SALARIES.

IS THE INTENTION TO INCREASE THE SALARIES TO BE COMPETITIVE WITH THE GNWT.

YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU IN TERMS OF THE THE ESTIMATE THAT WAS MADE, WHETHER THAT INCLUDED STAFF, SO NOT THE PARAMEDIC'S SALARY, BUT THE STREET OUTREACH WORKER SALARY, WHETHER IT INCLUDED A RAISE TO THEM OR IT ASSUMED STATUS QUO, EXISTING SALARIES.

WE'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.

WHETHER THIS OKAY, WHICH ASSUMPTION THIS BUDGET MAKES.

AND JUST TO CLARIFY YOUR POINT THERE, THOUGH, THAT MILLION INCLUDES THE PARAMEDIC AND THE STREET OUTREACH STAFF.

YES. AND SO WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED IN TERMS OF STAFFING IS THE PARAMEDIC, BUT ALSO SORT OF CONCURRENT FOOT PATROLS, SO THAT WE WOULD USE EXISTING STREET OUTREACH STAFF, BUT AT THE SAME TIME DOING FOOT PATROLS.

IT IS MENTIONED IN THE BRIEFING NOTE THAT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONCURRENT FOOT PATROLS.

I MEAN, THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THIS COULD BE DONE OR THINGS THAT COULD BE SORT OF TOGGLED, BUT.

UM, OKAY.

SO THE ASSUMPTIONS FOR SALARIES IS THAT THEY WOULD BE BUMPED UP AND NOT MATCHING GNWT SALARIES, BUT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.

SO THAT WAS THE ASSUMPTION PUT INTO THE THE ESTIMATES FOR THE BUDGET HERE.

BUT OBVIOUSLY THIS IS NOT SORT OF A BUDGET THAT'S LIKE READY TO GO IF WE GET THE GO AHEAD.

THIS IS A BROAD BRUSH STROKES TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THIS KIND OF MODEL MIGHT COST, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DETAILS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE WORKED OUT THAT WOULD AFFECT THE BUDGET, OBVIOUSLY, INCLUDING STAFFING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE MEDIC POSITION.

ARE YOU GOING TO BE JOINT VENTURING WITH AMS, OR ARE YOU GOING TO BE DOING A SUBCONTRACT KIND OF FORMAT WITH THEM? I DON'T THINK WE HAD GOTTEN INTO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL IN TERMS OF WHAT EXACTLY THE CONTRACT ARRANGEMENTS WOULD BE.

AGAIN, THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL MODEL THAT WE'RE PRESENTING HERE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

YEAH. NO, MY ONLY CONCERN IS, OF COURSE, BECAUSE OF THE NATIONAL LABOR SHORTAGE.

JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BE ABLE TO FILL THESE ROLES.

YEAH, BUT THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

MY OTHER QUESTION IS, I SEE WITHIN THE WHITEHORSE MODEL THAT [INAUDIBLE] FIRST NATION PARTICIPATES.

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THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE APPLY ON.

BUT AGAIN, WE ARE OPEN TO HAVING THOSE COLLABORATIONS WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES AND WITH THE GNWT AND OTHER FUNDERS AS WELL.

AND SO MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE DESCRIPTION OF THE WHITE HORSE MODEL IS THAT THE [INAUDIBLE] FIRST NATIONS PROVIDES THE NURSING SERVICES, SO THEY MUST HAVE LIKE OUTREACH NURSE STAFF, PERHAPS THAT THEY THAT'S WHAT SORT OF THEY'RE BRINGING TO THE TABLE.

THAT'S I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS, BUT THAT MAY BE THE CASE.

AND I'M NOT SURE IF YELLOWKNIVES DENE FIRST NATION OR OTHERS WOULD ACTIVELY CURRENTLY HAVE ON STAFF, YOU KNOW, OUTREACH NURSES AND THINGS THAT MAY BE IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION OVER THERE. AND I THINK WE HAVE CHOSEN TO PUT INTO THE BUDGET OR PROPOSE THAT IT BE P ARAMEDICS, PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE DIFFICULTY IN FINDING NURSES AND OUTREACH NURSES RIGHT NOW THERE'S A NATIONWIDE SHORTAGE, AS WE KNOW.

SO WE SEE IT AS POTENTIALLY MORE FEASIBLE TO GO WITH A PARAMEDIC.

THERE MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, SLIGHT DIFFERENCES IN WHAT SERVICES CAN BE OFFERED.

AGAIN, THIS CAN ALL SORT OF BE WORKED OUT IN THE DETAILS IN THE WASH.

BUT YEAH, SO THOSE ARE SOME POTENTIAL DIFFERENCES FROM THE WHITEHORSE MODEL THAT WE MIGHT LOOK TO.

BUT THERE MAY ALSO BE BENEFITS IN LOOKING TO TRY TO GET AN OUTREACH NURSE OR INVESTIGATING MORE HOW THEY DO IT OVER THERE IN WHITEHORSE TO CONSIDER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY I WILL I DO SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM GOING FORWARD INTO FEBRUARY'S DELIBERATIONS.

NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHERE WE STAND.

THE ONE THING I WILL SAY, THOUGH, IS THAT THOSE WHO ARE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET ELECTED INTO THE 20TH ASSEMBLY, I DO HOPE THAT THEY WILL ADVOCATE TO HAVE THESE ADVANCED CARE MODELS BE PART AS PART OF THE PRIORITIES OF THE MANDATE.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER? COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN. THANKS MAYOR ALTY.

ONE QUESTION. JUST FINAL QUESTION.

ONE THING WE'VE ALL CLEARLY BEEN ASSUMING AS THE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN GOING ON, AND I THINK I DID TOO.

WE'VE ALL BEEN KIND OF GOING OFF THE ASSUMPTION THAT WHEN YOUR DISCUSSIONS WITH AMS THAT WE WEREN'T FACTORING IN A NEW WELLNESS CENTRE.

WAS THAT SORT OF FACTORED INTO THE CONVERSATIONS? SO LIKE, AS COUNCILLOR WARBURTON SAID, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE THE SITUATION WILL CHANGE.

SO YOU KNOW, WHAT SERVICES WILL BE REQUIRED DOWNTOWN, WHAT SERVICES WILL BE AVAILABLE.

SO WAS THAT PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS WITH AMS, OR WAS IT BASED OFF OF SORT OF THE STATUS QUO SITUATION? DO YOU MEAN IN TERMS OF AMS AVAILABILITY, TO HAVE A CONTRACT FOR A MOBILE STREET OUTREACH SERVICE.

THIS IS AS PART OF THE ESTIMATE AROUND LIKE THE IDEA OF LIKE $1.1 MILLION AND SORT OF LIKE WHAT THE SERVICES WOULD BE NEEDED FOR A STREET OUTREACH PROGRAM, LIKE MAYBE AS COUNCILLOR WARBURTON WAS SAYING, MAYBE THE SITUATION CHANGES IN THE FUTURE.

ONCE A WELLNESS CENTRE IS BASED DOWNTOWN, MAYBE THERE'S NOT AS MUCH NEED FOR VANS, YOU KNOW, MOVING AROUND DOWNTOWN.

MAYBE THERE'S DIFFERENT SERVICES ALREADY AVAILABLE.

SO WAS IT WAS THE WAS THE ESTIMATE BASED OFF OF THE STATUS WHICH I'M GOOD EITHER WAY.

I JUST WANTED THAT CLARITY.

IS IT WAS IT BASED OFF OF THE STATUS QUO? NO WELLNESS CENTRE, YOU KNOW, SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF DOWNTOWN.

AND I KNOW IT'S ONLY A FEW BLOCKS, BUT AS WE ALL KNOW, PEOPLE ONLY MOVE A FEW BLOCKS OFTEN.

OR WAS IT BASED OFF OF ALSO FACTORING IN, YOU KNOW, THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, NEW WELLNESS CENTRE.

WELL, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS YET OF EXACTLY WHAT SERVICES WILL BE PROVIDED AT THE NEW WELLNESS CENTRE.

BUT I THINK EITHER WAY, LIKE A MOBILE UNIT THAT OFFERS HEALTH SERVICES AND OFFERS SAFE RIDES IS LIKE NEEDED EITHER WAY, IT'S A UNIQUE SERVICE.

I DON'T THINK.

I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT THE WELLNESS CENTRE WILL BE OFFERING OUTREACH IN THAT WAY, OR MOBILE SERVICES TO GET OUT AND ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN, BUT ALSO OTHER PARTS OF TOWN. SO I STILL THINK EITHER WAY, WITH OR WITHOUT WELLNESS CENTRE, THERE IS A SPECIFIC NEED FOR THESE MOBILE SERVICES.

AND JUST TO TOUCH ON THAT TOO, WITH THE WITH THAT CENTRE, YOU'RE EXPECTING PEOPLE TO GO THERE, WHEREAS ON THE VAN YOU'RE MEETING THEM OUT ON THE STREET AS WELL.

NO THAT'S PERFECT.

THAT'S THAT'S A PERFECT ANSWER FOR ME.

JUST, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GRAPPLE WITH SORT OF THOSE FACTORS OF STATUS QUO VERSUS FUTURE STATE AND WHAT PEOPLE'S EXPECTATIONS ARE AND, YOU KNOW, YOU SORT OF FRAME THAT RIGHT THERE IS THAT YOU'RE EXPECTING PEOPLE TO COME WHEN THE WHOLE IDEA AROUND THIS SERVICE IS YOU'RE ACTUALLY MEETING THEM WHERE THEY ARE, INSTEAD OF ASKING THEM TO JUST SHOW UP TO YOU WHERE THE SERVICES ARE. SO THANKS FOR THAT.

YEAH. THE WELLNESS CENTRES GOT A NEW NAME, BUT IT'S THE DAY SHELTER SOBERING CENTRE, WHICH WAS THE SAME MODEL JUST A BLOCK AWAY ON 5050.

SO NOW IT'S ON 51ST, AND WE NEEDED STREET OUTREACH BACK THEN, AND WE'LL NEED IT IN THE FUTURE, I WOULD SAY.

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SO THAT'S BUT THEN STREET, THEY'VE GOT OUTREACH NURSES NOW.

SO THERE'S SOME SLIGHT CHANGES ONE WAY.

YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTERS.

AND IT'S IT'S JUST.

YEAH, PROBABLY HAVE TO GET INTO IT WITH YOU MORE LATER.

I JUST SEE THAT THERE'S LIKE THREE DIFFERENT.

YOU'VE GOT THE EMR WHICH WOULD COST ABOUT $400 K, THE PRIMARY CARE PARAMEDICS, ABOUT $400 K, BUT THEN THE ADVANCED CARE ABOUT $550.

DO YOU KNOW IF THE MILLION IS ON THE $400 K OR THE $550.

AND THE $1.1 MILLION ESTIMATE ASSUMES THE ADVANCED CARE PARAMEDIC.

SO THE MOST EXPENSIVE OF THOSE THREE OPTIONS.

OKAY. SO AGAIN, IF YOU ASSUMED A DIFFERENT KIND OF PARAMEDIC, YOU COULD PARE DOWN THE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.

YEAH. OKAY.

SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, THANKS AGAIN FOR FOR COMING TODAY.

AND NEXT WE HAVE AND THEN COUNCILLOR FEQUET YOU CAN JOIN BACK IN.

NEXT WE HAVE MIKE WESTWICK WHO IS HERE WITH FOLK ON THE ROCKS.

UM, MIKE, IF YOU WANT TO COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM THERE AND YOU MAY BEGIN WHENEVER.

OH, SORRY. MIKE JUST PUSH THAT.

THERE YOU GO. OF COURSE.

MY APOLOGIES. THANK YOU.

WORSHIP. YEAH, I'M MIKE WESTWICK.

I'M HERE WITH FOLK ON THE ROCKS, AND WE ARE LOOKING TO, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE OUR STRONG, IMPORTANT PARTNERSHIP TO PROVIDE ARTS AND CULTURE IN THIS CITY. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN TERMS OF OUR REQUEST TODAY IS WE'RE LOOKING AT, HOPING YOU'LL ACCEPT OUR REQUEST FOR SOME LOAN FORGIVENESS ON $60,000 ON THE $100,000 LOAN FROM THE RENOVATION OF THE MAIN STAGE ON THE FOLK ON THE ROCKS SITE, THAT WOULD RESULT IN A $20,000 IMPACT ON THAT LOAN IN EACH OF THE NEXT COMING THREE YEARS, JUST TO HIT HOME THE REPAYMENT AND AS YOU GUYS DELIBERATE ON YOUR BUDGETS.

IN EXCHANGE, FOLK ON THE ROCKS INTENDS TO REINVEST THESE FUNDS IN THE BEER GARDEN STAGE RENOVATION TO IMPROVE SITE SAFETY, ACCESSIBILITY AND FUNCTIONALITY FOR EVERYONE WHOSE ON SITE. AS WE ALL KNOW, THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE OWNS AND CONTROLS THE THE RENTALS OF THE SITE, AND FOLK ON THE ROCKS ACTS AS THE CARETAKER OF THAT.

IMPROVING THESE FACILITIES IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BENEFIT BOTH OUR ORGANIZATION AS WELL AS THE CITY'S OPERATIONS, WHICH DO BRING IN REVENUE.

OKAY.

APOLOGIES. SO RENOVATION TO THE STAGE HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY A STRUCTURAL CONDITION ASSESSMENT DONE BY STANTEC IN 2018, AS ORDERED BY YELLOWKNIFE, THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE.

WE'VE INCLUDED A COPY OF THE STRUCTURAL CONDITION ASSESSMENT IN THE WRITTEN MATERIALS FOR COUNCIL, AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE DETAILED PHOTOS AND RECOMMENDATIONS, PLEASE TURN TO PAGE 19 OF S19 TO 26 OF THE ASSESSMENT.

ON MY SLIDES, I'VE INCLUDED THE SECTIONS OF THE ASSESSMENT THAT SHOW THE FOUNDATION WERE ASSESSED TO BE IN EARLY STAGES OF DECAY IN 2018, FOLK ON THE ROCKS HAS BEEN MONITORING THAT CLOSELY, BUT A RENOVATION IS NEEDED TO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND LONGEVITY OF THAT IMPORTANT FACILITY AREA. AND SO ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION WITHIN THE ASSESSMENT WAS CONCERNING THE SAFETY OF THE ORIGINAL ROOF.

YOU'LL SEE ON THE SLIDE THERE A REPRESENTATION OF THIS FOLK ON THE ROCKS HAS SINCE REMOVED THE ROOF SHEATHING ON THE STAGE.

WE'VE BEEN USING A POLYETHYLENE TARP TO KEEP THE STAGE DRY OVER THE FESTIVAL WEEKEND, BUT THAT'S ONLY A TEMPORARY FIX.

AND WITHOUT A PERMANENT ROOF, THE STRUCTURE IS MORE VULNERABLE TO MORE OF THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGES THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING THERE, AND ALSO LEAVES IT TO BE A LESS DESIRABLE FACILITY FOR RENTAL.

AND, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY REVENUES FOR THE CITY THERE.

SO THE RENOVATION WOULD NOT ONLY ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT IT WILL ALSO ALLOW FOLK ON THE ROCKS TO CONTINUE OUR EFFORTS TO IMPROVE SITE ACCESSIBILITY FOR ALL WHO WISH TO USE IT, NOT JUST DURING A FESTIVAL AGAIN, BUT FOR ANYONE WHO WISHES TO USE IT IN THIS COMMUNITY.

FOLK ON THE ROCKS IS COMMITTED TO IMPROVING THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE SITE BY LESSENING OR REMOVING BARRIERS TO ENTRY.

IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, WE'VE EXEMPLIFIED THIS COMMITMENT BY INSTALLING THINGS LIKE THE ACCESSIBILITY MATS PICTURED HERE ON THAT SLIDE.

AND WE'VE ALSO ADDED ACCESSIBLE RAMPS, ACCESSIBLE TOILETS, BARRIER FREE VIEWING AREAS FOR FOLKS ON THE FOLK ON THE ROCKS SITE.

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AND FOR ANYONE ELSE CONCERNED WITH TRIPPING ON UNEVEN GROUND WHICH, AS ANY OF US WHO HAVE WENT STAGE TO STAGE THERE KNOWS, CAN BE A BIT OF A HAZARD SOMETIMES.

THE GOAL IS FOR THE PATHWAY TO LINK THE FRONT GATE TO ALL MAJOR AREAS OF THE FESTIVAL, BUT BECAUSE OF ITS LACK OF CONFIGURATION, THE BEER GARDEN STAGE IS ACTUALLY CURRENTLY OUR LEAST ACCESSIBLE PART OF OUR SITE RIGHT NOW, IN SPITE OF BEING THE MOST POPULAR AMONG THE MOST POPULAR.

CURRENTLY, IT LACKS A PATHWAY FOR MOBILITY MATS TO REACH THE BEER GARDEN ACCESSIBLE VIEWING PLATFORMS FROM THE FRONT GATE.

OPTIONS FOR MOBILITY MAT PATHWAYS TO REACH MULTIPLE ACCESSIBLE TOILETS AND MULTIPLE EXITS.

LOCATION FOR RAISED VIEWING PLATFORMS HIGHER THAN THE STANDING CROWD LEVEL AND OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF VIEWING VIEWING PLATFORMS THERE.

SO THE BEER GARDEN STAGE RENOVATION WILL ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS AND IT WILL BE PART OF THE OVERALL WORK THERE WE'LL INCLUDE NEW RAISED VIEWING PLATFORMS THAT ARE CONNECTED TO MULTIPLE POINTS OF ENTRY AND EXIT, AND TWO MOBILITY PATHWAYS AND TWO AMENITIES SUCH AS BARRIER FREE TOILETS.

UPDATING THE INFRASTRUCTURE WILL IMPROVE THE FOLK ON THE ROCKS SITES GENERAL ACCESSIBILITY AND SUSTAINABILITY, WHILE ALSO CREATING A MORE BEAUTIFUL AND ENGAGING EXPERIENCE FOR ALL THOSE WHO USE THE SITE.

AGAIN, NOT JUST DURING FESTIVAL BUT ALSO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BOTH INCREASE TOURISM AND ECONOMIC STIMULATION THROUGH THE ANNUAL FOLK ON THE ROCKS FESTIVAL AND SITE RENTALS.

OUR ORGANIZATION BELIEVES THE BEER GARDEN STAGE RENOVATION REFLECTS THE GENERAL PRIORITIES LISTED IN THE CITY'S 2023 TO 2025 DRAFT BUDGET PRIORITIES, INCLUDING REPAIRING AGING INFRASTRUCTURE, MAINTAINING SERVICES OF RENTAL FACILITIES, AND GROWING AND DIVERSIFYING OUR ECONOMY.

AND WHILE YOUR SUPPORT IS VITAL TO THE SURVIVAL OF THE BEER GARDEN, STAGE FOLK ON THE ROCKS, I WILL REITERATE, IS NOT ASKING FOR THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE TO COVER ANY COSTS RELATED TO THE THE PROJECT ITSELF.

WE'RE FOCUSED ON LOAN FORGIVENESS.

WE FULLY EXPECT AND ARE COMMITTED TO FUNDING THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION AND MATERIALS THROUGH FESTIVAL REVENUES, CORPORATE SPONSORS AND OTHER FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.

SO YOU WON'T BE GOING AT THIS ALONE.

SO THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THIS IN THE WRITTEN MATERIALS PACKAGE.

WE'VE INCLUDED THE REPAYMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN FOLK ON THE ROCKS AND THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE.

THE STRUCTURAL CONDITION ASSESSMENT AND A PROPOSED FEE ESTIMATE FOR ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THE PROJECT.

THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION OR MATERIAL COSTS WHICH HAVE YET TO BE ASSESSED.

WE'RE GRATEFUL TO THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE FOR CONSIDERING THIS REQUEST, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING OUR IMPORTANT PARTNERSHIP TOGETHER AND ACCELERATING THIS PROJECT TO MAKE THE MAKE THE SITE BETTER FOR EVERYBODY.

HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

OPENING IT UP TO QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL COUNCILLOR WARBURTON.

THANK YOU, MIKE, FOR THE PRESENTATION.

ACTUALLY A MAIN QUESTION.

IF WE DO LOAN FORGIVENESS, HOW DOES THAT SHOW UP? DOES THAT HIT OUR GRANTS? DOES THAT GO INTO THIS REVENUE LOSS.

LIKE HOW IS THAT REFLECTED IN OUR BUDGET I GUESS.

MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE'D HAVE TO TAKE THIS UNDER ADVISEMENT AND GET BACK JUST TO SEE WHAT THE EXACT TERMS WERE THAT WERE PUT INTO PLACE WITH FOLK ON THE ROCKS AT THE TIME WHEN THE LOAN WAS PROVIDED. THAT WAS IN 2018, I THINK, AND I NEED TO LOOK AT THE SPECIFICS OF THE PAPERWORK TO SEE WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS THERE.

BEFORE WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE ANY COMMENT ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN OUR REVENUES.

THANK YOU.

AWESOME. THANK YOU.

COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR, AND THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I HAPPEN TO ALSO BE ON THE GRANT COMMITTEE.

SO LOOKING BACK AT THE FOLK ON THE ROCKS GRANT APPLICATION FROM THE SPRING, THE BUDGET SHOWED $60,000 BUDGETED FOR REPAIRS IN 2023, $70,000 IN 2024 AND $80,000 IN 2025 WHILE MAINTAINING A SURPLUS.

SO JUST WONDERING WHAT CHANGED.

YEAH. SO WHEN WE COMPLETED THAT MULTI-YEAR APPLICATION, WE BUDGETED MODESTLY FOR THAT, FOR WHAT WE GENERALLY SEE IN TERMS OF ANNUAL REPAIRS AND SMALLER RENOVATIONS.

YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME OF THAT APPLICATION, WE WERE STILL RESEARCHING THIS PROJECT AND LOOKING INTO TO WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

AND, YOU KNOW, SO AS A RESULT IN THAT APPLICATION, THIS PROJECT WAS NOT ULTIMATELY INCLUDED WITHIN THAT.

WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT, YOU KNOW, SINCE GATHERING MORE INFORMATION, WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE RENOVATION, CONSTRUCTION AND MATERIALS ARE GOING TO COST ABOUT $250,000, ON TOP OF THE COST PROVIDED FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING SERVICES WHICH YOU'VE SOUGHT FUNDING FOR AS WELL.

SO I HOPE THAT CLEARS THAT UP FOR YOU COUNCILOR.

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WE'RE NOT PROJECTING TO REALIZE THAT SURPLUS UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, INFLATION WAS WAS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN, THAN WE EXPECTED AND, YOU KNOW, GREATER THAN ANTICIPATED SINCE 2022 WHEN THAT WAS THAT WAS DONE.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE REALIZING THAT NOTED SURPLUS THERE.

THANK YOU. AND ONE FINAL QUESTION HAS OR WILL FOLK ON THE ROCKS SEEK OTHER GRANTS OR FUNDING PARTNERS TO COVER EITHER THE ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING SERVICES OR THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS? YES, ABSOLUTELY.

WE'VE YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING FOR FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

AND WE HAVE A REALLY AMAZING STAFF TEAM WHO ARE VERY SUCCESSFUL AT IT.

SO FOLK ON THE ROCKS SUCCESSFULLY APPLIED FOR THE COMMUNITY TOURISM INFRASTRUCTURE CONTRIBUTION PROGRAM THROUGH IT FOR PHASE ONE OF THIS PROJECT, WHICH INCLUDED, YOU KNOW, THE ARCHITECTURAL DRAFTING.

SO THIS WINTER WE PLAN TO APPLY FOR FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

WE'RE LOOKING TO APPLY TO THAT SAME PROGRAM.

ADDITIONALLY FOR WE'RE LOOKING AT EXPLORING SOME FUNDING BY [INAUDIBLE] AND THROUGH PAST EXPERIENCES WITH APPLYING FOR THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS WE'VE BEEN QUITE SUCCESSFUL IN THE PAST.

SO WE DO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUND THIS PROJECT WITH WITH THE CITY'S PARTNERSHIP AS WELL AS PARTNERSHIP FROM OTHER BODIES OF GOVERNMENT.

AWESOME. THANK YOU. AND THEN JUST ONE FOR ADMIN.

WHAT WAS THE CITY'S REVENUE FROM RENTING THE FOLK ON THE ROCKS SITE? MAYBE, I GUESS MAYBE 2018 JUST TO GET A YEAR BEFORE COVID AND THEN 2022 MAYBE.

MS. BASSI-KELLETT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE'D NEED TO LOOK INTO THIS TO GET THE EXACT FIGURES OF THIS.

WE DON'T HAVE THIS AVAILABLE AT THIS EXACT MOMENT.

THANK YOU. OKAY, THAT'S IT FOR MY QUESTIONS.

I'LL HAVE A COMMENT AFTER.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR COCHRANE.

I THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

A QUESTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION.

DO WE HAVE A PRECEDENT FOR LOAN FORGIVENESS WITH FESTIVALS OR NGOS WITH THE CITY? MS. BASSI-KELLETT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.

NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. WE NEED TO GO AND TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.

MS. THISTLE MIGHT HAVE SOME INSIGHTS ON THIS ONE OVER TO YOU.

WE HAD ONE REQUEST PREVIOUSLY FOR LOAN FORGIVENESS FOR THE YELLOWKNIFE GYMNASTICS CLUB, AND COUNCIL DID NOT FORGIVE IT.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I WILL ALSO HAVE A COMMENT AFTER.

THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR MCGURK.

I'M JUST WONDERING WHEN PEOPLE DO RENT THE FOLK ON THE ROCK SITE, DO THEY TYPICALLY RENT THE ENTIRE SITE OR DO THEY TYPICALLY JUST USE THE BEER GARDEN STAGE? FROM MY OBSERVATIONS, IT SEEMS LIKE THE BEER GARDEN STAGE IS THE MOST UTILIZED FROM THE COMMUNITY.

THE HOSPITALITY ONE'S POPULAR TOO MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YES, THOSE ARE THE TWO PRIME LOCATIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE MOST INTERESTED IN I'LL ASK MR. WHITE IF HE HAS MORE HE'D LIKE TO ADD.

THANK YOU. YES. I'LL JUST ADD THAT IT IS BROKEN INTO COMPONENTS.

SO YOU COULD HAVE A RENTAL AT THE MAIN STAGE AND THEN ANOTHER RENTAL AT THE BIGGER STAGE ON THE SAME WEEKEND.

SO IT IS QUITE POPULAR.

IT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN, BUT THERE ARE OCCASIONS WHERE IT DOES.

THANKS. [INAUDIBLE] ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M JUST TRYING TO REMEMBER.

SO I PULLED UP OUR MOTION, WHICH WAS ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH FOLK ON THE ROCKS FOR THE REPAYMENT OF $100,000 OF THE TOTAL $200,000 MAIN STAGE RETROFIT PROJECT.

AND SO THE OTHER $100,000 WAS THAT FROM ITI OR FROM THE CITY? IT IS IT WAS SOURCED FROM OTHER FUNDING, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING THE COMMUNITY TOURISM INFRASTRUCTURE CONTRIBUTION, I BELIEVE.

BUT I CAN CONFIRM THAT WITH MY STAFF AS WELL AND KNOW FOR SURE.

BUT WE DID SOURCE OTHER FUNDING FOR THAT.

OKAY, PERFECT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IT'S NOT TIME FOR COMMENTS ACTUALLY.

YOU GET TO SAVE THOSE FOR DELIBERATIONS.

COUNCILLOR FEQUET, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DID NOT JUST THANK YOU TO MIKE FOR PREVENTING THAT AND I GOT MY MERCH, SO THANKS.

THANK YOU. UH SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

THANKS AGAIN, MIKE, FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT, WITH THAT, WE'VE COME TO THE CONCLUSION AND WE'VE REACHED OUR 90 MINUTE MARK.

SO LET'S TAKE A TEN MINUTE BREAK AND COME BACK AT 8:45 P.M..

[01:30:09]

[Items 11 & 12]

YES. HOWEVER, IT'S COME UP EMPTY.

AND SO BEING ABLE TO TO GET THIS MULTI YEAR MULTI YEAR FUNDING PROPOSAL TO THE FEDERAL AND TERRITORIAL GOVERNMENT AS WELL WILL HELP ACCELERATE, I THINK, A BETTER PROGRAM. SO IT WAS A GREAT START I THINK.

BUT WE NEED THE THE CONSULTANT TO COME IN, FLESH IT OUT.

AND WE STILL NEED TO WRITE AN RFP EVEN IF WE ALLOCATE $1.1 MILLION.

WHAT DOES WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

SO THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M IN SUPPORT OF KEEPING IT IN.

COUNCILLOR MCGURK I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT MAKES SENSE FOR THIS PROPOSED ITEM TO BE OR FOR THE LANGUAGE TO BE ADJUSTED FOR IT TO BE MORE RELEVANT TO THAT THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US TONIGHT, LIKE IF, IF WE ALSO INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF THE WHAT THE CONSULTATION CONSULTANT IS REVIEWING IS THE LARGER SCOPE WHICH THE WOMEN'S SOCIETY HAS PRESENTED, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, OR IF IT JUST WOULD NATURALLY FALL IN THERE ANYWAY.

I THINK AT THIS TIME I'D RECOMMEND THAT WE KEEP IT MORE BROAD.

HOWEVER, I THINK IT IS AN IMPORTANT THING TO TO DISCUSS AS A COUNCIL WHAT STREET OUTREACH WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE, BUT ALSO TALKING WITH THE TERRITORIAL AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WILL IT TAKE FOR YOU TO COME TO THE TABLE WITH WITH FUNDING AND SO THAT WE CAN THEN MEET OBJECTIVES? SO COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND YEAH, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR THE CONTRIBUTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES.

AND I VERY MUCH TAKE COUNCILLOR HENRIKSEN'S POINT AND OTHER COUNCILORS.

I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS.

HOWEVER, I THINK I JUST SEE IT FROM A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW.

AND THAT'S THE POINT OF WHY THERE'S MORE THAN ONE OF US ON COUNCIL.

SO. SO I THINK FOR ME, LIKE YELLOWKNIFE WOMEN'S SOCIETY IS THE ORGANIZATION THAT'S RUNNING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THE PROGRAMING, THAT'S ADDRESS, THAT'S SERVING VULNERABLE POPULATIONS IN YELLOWKNIFE.

FOR ME, THEY'RE THE BEST CONSULTANTS.

THIS IS THE DIRECTION THEY'VE CHOSEN TO GO WITH THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN.

THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE MOVING.

I THINK SOMEONE NEEDS TO MAKE THE FIRST STEP.

IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE AT A HIGH SCHOOL DANCE HERE WHERE WE'RE STARING ACROSS THE GYM AT EACH OTHER.

WE DON'T NEED A PRINCIPAL TO TELL US WE SHOULD DANCE.

LET'S TAKE A STEP FORWARD AND BE LEADERS AND PUT MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS.

THAT WE WANT TO HELP ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS AND AND MOVE FORWARD AND AND CALL OTHERS TO THE TABLE.

BEING SITTING AT THE TABLE, THAT'S JUST MY I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS FROM OTHER COUNCILORS.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND TO POINT OUT THE WOMEN'S SOCIETY COULD BID ON THIS AND, AND GET THE $100,000 TO, TO GET IT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.

YOU KNOW, THEY DID SAY THAT IT STILL NEEDS WORK.

AND SO THEY COULD BE THE ONES THAT FACILITATE BRING TO THE TABLE AND AND FINISH IT UP.

SO SEEING NOTHING FURTHER TO THE MOTION TO REMOVE THIS FROM THE MOTION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

OPPOSED. MADAM CHAIR, AM I ALLOWED TO SPEAK TO IT OR NO? BECAUSE IT'S THIS, UH, STREET OUTREACH PROGRAM.

TWO SECONDS. BECAUSE IT'S THE STREET OUTREACH PROGRAM AND YOUR WIFE'S STILL THE PRESIDENT.

ALTHOUGH IT'S ALTHOUGH IT'S FOR IT IS IT IS FOR THE CONSULTANT.

SO YES IT'S OKAY ON ON THIS POINT HERE A GREY AREA I GUESS.

SORRY COUNCILLOR FEQUET. OKAY.

SO I THINK I JUST I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING EVERYBODY SAID WE NEED TO HAVE A REVIEW AT SOME POINT AND IDENTIFY REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE. IF WE CAN GET FEDERAL MONEY FOR THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

IF WE CAN HAVE SOMEONE OBJECTIVE OR SOMEONE LOCAL OR PARTNERING TOGETHER, GREAT.

ALL OF THAT IS AWESOME.

AND I THINK WE ALL RECOGNIZE AND HOPE THAT THE [INAUDIBLE] OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL PUT UP SOME MONEY FOR THIS AT SOME STAGE, LIKE THEY HAD IN THE PAST, BECAUSE IT'S DEFINITELY A JOINT RESPONSIBILITY.

I THINK WHAT THE CITY IS LACKING IS THAT RIGHT NOW, WE NEED SOMETHING TO HELP SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY AND ADDRESS PUBLIC SAFETY

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I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY DIFFERENT OBJECTIVES.

I THINK THOSE ARE THE OBJECTIVES.

AND IF ANY PROGRAM CAN BE EXPANDED OR A NEW PROGRAM CAN BE PUT IN PLACE TO DO BETTER AT THOSE OBJECTIVES THAN WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

I FULLY SUPPORT THAT.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO REMOVE.

SEE MYSELF TWICE WHAT'S GOING ON, THE FACT THAT WE MIGHT WANT A THIRD PARTY REVIEW AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, AND MAYBE THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS IN THE BUDGET.

BUT I THINK THE POINT IS, IS THAT THE RFP PROCESS, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FUNDING AND ADVANCING THE PROGRAM JUST MEANS IT'S ONE MORE YEAR AT LEAST LIKELY TO, IF I HAD TO BET MY HOUSE ON IT, BEFORE WE CAN ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING.

AND THIS IS CURRENTLY THE PROGRAM THAT'S BEING DELIVERED.

THE BIGGEST THING THAT I AM AWARE OF, THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN DO TO BOTH SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY AND ADDRESS PUBLIC SAFETY.

SO I JUST WANT TO OFFER THOSE COMMENTS.

THANK YOU.

SO TO THE MOTION TO REMOVE THAT $1.2 FROM THE MOTION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

OPPOSED. AND THAT IS DEFEATED WITH COUNCILLOR WARBURTON AND COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN IN FAVOR. SO WE COUNCILLOR FEQUET WERE YOU IN FAVOROR O PPOSED? I WAS IN SUPPORT OF THE MOTION PRESENTED BY COUNCILLOR WARBURTON.

OKAY, SO IT'S DEFEATED WITH COUNCILLOR FEQUET WARBURTON AND COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN IN FAVOR.

SO TO THE MAIN MOTION, IT'S AMENDED.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING. COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.

YEAH. JUST THINKING ABOUT ADDING IN THE MONEY FOR THE PROGRAM.

BUT BASED ON THE RESULTS OF THE LAST VOTE, I THINK WE WOULD SORT OF HAVE THE EXACT SAME DISCUSSION AND PROBABLY LAND AT THE EXACT SAME PLACE.

SO I THINK I WILL REFRAIN.

THANK YOU. THAT BEING SAID, BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THE BUDGET DELIBERATIONS HAPPEN, WE'VE GOT FOUR MONTHS OR THREE, THREE, FOUR MONTHS.

SO SOME TIME TO STILL MAKE SOME PROGRESS AND DELIBERATE.

SO TO THE MOTION AS PRESENTED IN THE PACKAGE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

COUNCILLOR FEQUET ARE YOU IN FAVOR? I AM SORRY. CAN YOU SEE MY HAND? YEP. NOW WE CAN.

AND THAT IS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

NEXT WE HAD THE MEMORANDUM REGARDING THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.

HOWEVER, THAT WILL HAVE TO BE DEFERRED TO A FUTURE MEETING.

WE WILL DISCUSS THAT AT OUR GPC NEXT MONDAY.

NEXT, WE HAVE A MEMORANDUM REGARDING WHETHER TO APPOINT LESLIE TATENDA NGONI MUTANDIWA AS A BYLAW OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE.

[Items 15 & 16]

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

PURSUANT TO THE CITY TOWNS AND VILLAGES ACT, LESLIE TATENDA NGONI MUTANDIWA BE APPOINTED AS A BYLAW OFFICER OF CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE AND TO THE TERM OF APPOINTMENT SHALL EXPIRE UPON TERMINATION OF THE EMPLOYMENT WITH THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE AS A PILOT OFFICER.

AND APOLOGIES IF I DIDN'T PRONOUNCE THAT CORRECTLY.

THANK YOU. SECONDER.

COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? DISCUSSION.

SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

IS THERE ANY NEW BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR? THERE WERE NO BYLAWS FOR THE AGENDA, THERE WAS NO DEFERRED BUSINESS AND THERE WERE NO TABLED ITEMS FOR THE AGENDA.

IS THERE ANY DEFERRED BUSINESS OR ARE THERE ANY TABLED ITEMS FROM THE FLOOR? THERE WAS NO OLD BUSINESS FOR THE AGENDA.

IS THERE ANY OLD BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR? THERE WERE NO NOTICES OF MOTION FOR THE AGENDA.

ARE THERE ANY NOTICES OF MOTION FROM THE FLOOR? THERE WERE NO DELEGATIONS PERTAINING TO ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

THERE WERE NO ADMINISTRATIVE INQUIRIES FOR THE AGENDA.

[27. Are there any administrative enquiries from the floor?]

THANKS, MADAM CHAIR. CAN YOU.

[01:40:01]

HELLO? CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? OKAY. YES WE CAN.

I'M A BAD INTERNET CONNECTION.

JUST A QUESTION. JUST A QUESTION ABOUT THE HOURS AT THE SOMBE K'E WASHROOM.

I JUST, I KNOW SOME RESIDENTS ARE HAVE ASKED AND ARE CONCERNED THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN OPEN ACCORDING TO THE HOURS ON THE WEBSITE, AS WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE.

AND I WAS JUST HOPING MAYBE ADMIN COULD GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THAT SITUATION AND HOW THAT ALL WORKS.

JUST SO EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME PAGE.

MS. BASSI-KELLETT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.

AND CERTAINLY WE KNOW THAT ACCESS TO WASHROOMS ARE A VERY IMPORTANT AND VERY POPULAR TOPIC OF DISCUSSION WITHIN THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE.

WE ARE REALLY PLEASED TO HAVE OUR WASHROOM FACILITIES IN SOMBA K'E PARK AT OUR CIRCULAR BUILDING THAT'S LOCATED IN THE PARK.

WE DO KNOW THAT IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUILDING AND IT AND PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCE OF THE BUILDING REMAINS SAFE AND FUNCTIONAL, SHALL WE SAY THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE AN EMPLOYEE THAT'S THERE IN THE FACILITY TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S OPERATED SAFELY, THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO ACCESS WHAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY GET IN THERE. AND JUST TO TO MAKE IT KNOWN THAT IT IS A BUILDING THAT'S OCCUPIED ALL THE TIME.

WE HAVE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH STAFFING AND HAVING STAFF THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN THAT BUILDING, AND THAT HAS BEEN A BIT OF AN ISSUE FOR US ENABLED IN TERMS OF US BEING ABLE TO KEEP THAT FACILITY OPEN.

HOWEVER, WHAT WE DO HAVE AS AN ALTERNATIVE IS THAT CERTAINLY THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE'S BOTTOM FLOOR OF OUR AT CITY HALL, WE HAVE WASHROOM FACILITIES THERE THAT ARE OPEN DURING BUSINESS HOURS. SO AS A BACKUP PLAN, IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME 12 HOUR SHIFT THAT WE'VE TRIED TO MAINTAIN AT THE SOMBA K'E WASHROOM.

BUT WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO USE THE WASHROOMS ON THE LOWER FLOOR OF THE CITY CITY HALL AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

I'LL ASK MR. WHITE IF HE HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD ON THIS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THAT WAS VERY THOROUGH. I'LL JUST ADD THAT WE ARE STRIVING TO GET ALL OF OUR STAFF POSITIONS FILLED, SO WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE IT OPEN ON OUR ADVERTISED HOURS.

THANKS. UPPER AND LOWER LEVEL HAS ACCESSIBLE WASHROOMS TOO, SO IF WE JUST HAVE TO.

I DON'T KNOW IF OUR SIGN OUT ON THE SOMBA K'E WASHROOMS JUST NEEDS TO BE UPDATED TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS ARE REDIRECTED HERE.

BUT CITY HALL'S GOT WASHROOMS AVAILABLE MONDAY TO FRIDAY, 8:30 TO 5:00.

COUNCILLOR FEQUET. UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION STAFF.

I'M SURE. SO JUST TO CONFIRM, IT'S, DUE TO VACANCIES THAT, IF FILLED, WOULD ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, NOT RELOCATION OF PRIORITIES.

AND THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT IS OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUDGET FOR THE COMING MONTHS AND JUST WANT TO KNOW IF WE DID IN FACT FILL OUR VACANCIES, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY ADVERTISING.

MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE WE HAD A LONG TERM EMPLOYEE THAT WAS IN THE POSITION AND THAT PERSON RESIGNED.

GOSH, IN THE SPRING I THINK IT WAS.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SOME PATCHING SINCE THEN WITH SOME OF OUR CASUAL STAFF OVER THE SUMMER.

BUT OF COURSE THAT'S NOT A REALITY WE HAVE ANYMORE.

SO MR. WHITE, ANYTHING TO ADD IN TERMS OF THE STATUS OF STAFFING? I'M SORRY, NOTHING OTHER TO ADD THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET OUR POSITIONS FILLED.

THANKS. PERFECT.

SEEING NOTHING FURTHER.

IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN, MOVED BY COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.

ANYBODY OPPOSED? SEEING NONE, WE CAN BE ADJOURNED AND WE'LL SEE EVERYBODY AT OUR SPECIAL GPC NEXT MONDAY, OCTOBER 30TH AT 12:05 P.M..

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.