[1. Opening Statement ]
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FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL, IT HAS BEEN THE TRADITIONAL LAND OF THE YELLOWKNIVES DENE FIRST NATION.
WE RESPECT THE HISTORIES, LANGUAGES AND CULTURES OF ALL OTHER INDIGENOUS PEOPLES, INCLUDING THE NORTH SLAVE METIS AND ALL FIRST NATIONS, METIS AND INUIT, WHOSE PRESENCE CONTINUES TO ENRICH OUR VIBRANT COMMUNITY.
[2. Approval of the agenda. ]
MS. WHITE, ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD TO THE AGENDA? NOTHING TO ADD. THANK YOU.THANK YOU. NEXT, WE HAVE DISCLOSURE OF PECUNIARY INTEREST AND GENERAL NATURE THEREOF.
[3. Disclosure of pecuniary interest and the general nature thereof. ]
DOES ANY MEMBER HAVE A PECUNIARY INTEREST TODAY? SEEING NONE AND NOTING THAT WE HAVE COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN ONLINE AS WELL AS MS. THISTLE, THE DIRECTOR OF [INAUDIBLE].[4. A presentation regarding proposed revised 2024 budget schedule. ]
NEXT, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION REGARDING PROPOSED REVISED 2024 BUDGET SCHEDULE.MS. WHITE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM.
SO I'LL ASK MR. PANDOO TO PLEASE DO THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU, MS. WHITE. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE 2024 BUDGET PREPARATION AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ON THE NEW TIMELINES.
NOW, IN TODAY'S PRESENTATION, WE WILL LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF PROGRESS [INAUDIBLE] OUR INITIAL 2024 BUDGET SCHEDULE. THE CHALLENGES WE ARE FACING IN MEETING THOSE DEADLINES AND THE NEW PROPOSED T IMELINES FOR THE COMPLETION AND ADOPTION OF THE 2024 BUDGET.
NOW, BEFORE I CARRY ON, I JUST WANTED TO ASK.
I'M VERY SOFT SPOKEN, SO IF EVERYONE CAN HEAR ME, JUST LET ME KNOW SO THAT I CAN TUNE MY VOICE.
THANK YOU. SO AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, EVERY YEAR THE CITY'S BUDGET GETS PREPARED BY FOLLOWING THE SAME BASIC CYCLICAL PROCESS FROM JANUARY TO DECEMBER, AND THIS YEAR WAS NO DIFFERENT. SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR IN THE BACKGROUND, COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION HAVE BEEN WORKING TREMENDOUSLY HARD TO COMPLETE THE TASK AS PRESCRIBED BY THE STATE PROCESS.
THESE DUTIES TYPICALLY INCLUDE OPERATIONAL AND MAINTENANCE BUDGETS, PLANNING FOR THE YEAR.
STAKEHOLDER CONSULTATIONS REGARDING MUNICIPAL PROPERTY TAXES.
AMENDMENTS TO THE FEES AND CHARGES BYLAW AND REVIEW OF STAFFING.
AND CAPITAL PROJECTS REQUIREMENTS FOR THE UPCOMING THREE YEAR BUDGET PERIOD, AMONGST OTHERS.
NOW THE ULTIMATE AIM OF THE ABOVE PLANNED EXERCISE WAS TO DELIVER A ROBUST AND ACHIEVABLE BUDGET FOR 2024 AT THE DECEMBER 12TH, 2023 COUNCIL MEETING.
HOWEVER, THE RECENT WILDFIRES OCCURRED, AND ON 16TH AUGUST 2023, THE CITY WAS UNDER AN EVACUATION ORDER, THEREBY ENABLING INEVITABLY PUTTING A HALT TO THE BUDGETING PROCESS.
NEEDLESS TO SAY, THIS HAS PROVEN TO BE SOMEWHAT DIFFICULT.
AS THE WILDFIRES EVACUATIONS HAS BROUGHT ITS LOTS OF CHALLENGES WHICH HAVE HINDERED THE BUDGET PROCESS AS A WHOLE. THE FIRST MAJOR ISSUE IS THE ONGOING TABULATION OF ALL EXPENSES INCURRED PRIOR AND DURING THE WILDFIRES TO SAFEGUARD THE CITY.
THESE EMERGENCY EXPENSES WERE UNDERSTANDABLY UNBUDGETED, AND WITH INVOICES STILL COMING IN FROM CONTRACTORS, WE DO NOT KNOW THE FINAL COST YET.
SO ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY TO HAVE THIS RESOLVED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
THE OTHER DIFFICULTY IS THAT THE FINALIZATION OF THE 2022 FINANCIAL STATEMENTS HAS BEEN DELAYED.
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IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE OUR 2022 AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE NUMBERS, THE FINAL NUMBERS, BECAUSE THEY PROVIDE THE BASIS ON WHICH WE FIRM UP OUR 2023 ACTUAL AND 2024 BUDGETED FIGURES.
HOWEVER, AS OF TODAY, WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT THE DRAFT 2022 AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS WOULD BE PRESENTED TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE ON THE 19TH OF OCTOBER 2023 AND HOPEFULLY TO THE MEETING OF 23RD OCTOBER 2023 FOR COUNCIL FINAL APPROVAL.
ANOTHER DRAWBACK, EVEN IF IT IS NOT RELATED TO THE WILDFIRES, BUT IT'S STILL A NEGATIVE, A NEGATIVE BEARING ON THE BUDGET PREPARATION THIS YEAR IS THE ONGOING STAFF CHALLENGES WITHIN CORPORATE SERVICES.
NOW I SHOULD JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS IS NOT A PHENOMENON THAT IS EXCLUSIVE TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, BUT IT IS AN ISSUE THAT IS IMPACTING SERVICE LEVELS ORGANIZATION WIDE.
CONSEQUENTLY, IN LIGHT OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED COMPLICATIONS, IT HAS BEEN NECESSARY TO PROPOSE SOME AMENDMENTS TO OUR REGULAR PROCESS AS WELL AS TO OUR TIMELINES TO ALLOW US COMPLETE THE 2024 BUDGET AT THE EARLIEST.
FIRSTLY, ADMINISTRATION WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE TO PROVIDE I GUESS, A HIGH LEVEL BUDGET UPDATE IN THE OCTOBER 30TH GPC MEETING.
SECONDLY, THIS 2024 DRAFT BUDGET IS INTENDED TO BE UNVEILED AT THE GPC MEETING OF JANUARY 15TH, 2024. FOLLOWING THIS MEETING, THE PUBLIC WILL BE INVITED TO SEND THEIR VIEWS TO COUNCIL VIA EMAIL ON THE DRAFT DOCUMENT BETWEEN JANUARY 16TH AND JANUARY 31ST.
HOWEVER, I BELIEVE DESPITE THIS SLIGHT CHANGE IN OUR REGULAR PROCESS, WE WILL STILL GET INVALUABLE FEEDBACK FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
FURTHER, WE HAVE SET ASIDE THE EVENINGS OF FEBRUARY 5TH, 6TH AND 7TH AND 8TH, RESERVED JUST IN CASE WE NEED EXTRA TIME FOR DELIBERATIONS TO SET THINGS UP FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE 2024 BUDGET ON FEBRUARY 12TH, 2024.
IF BUDGET DECISIONS REQUIRE FEES AND CHARGES BYLAW AMENDMENTS.
THE SAME WILL BE ADOPTED ON THIS DATE AS WELL.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND ATTENTION.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE THEM.
IF I CANNOT ANSWER THEM FOR YOU.
WE DO HAVE MRS. CHRISTINE SIU, MANAGER OF TAXATION, BUDGETING AND ASSESSMENT WITH US TODAY.
SHE HAS KINDLY ACCEPTED TO GIVE ME A HAND ON THE SAME.
OTHER POINTS TO NOTE FOR THE PUBLIC THAT IS LISTENING IN.
YOU ARE WELCOME TO PROVIDE YOUR FEEDBACK ON WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE DRAFT BUDGET.
AND OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH IS MONDAY, OCTOBER 23RD, THE PUBLIC IS ALSO INVITED TO TO COME AND MAKE PRESENTATIONS TO COUNCIL AT THAT MEETING ON WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE 2024 BUDGET.
I IMAGINE IT MUST BE VERY PRESSING.
I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO A FAIR AMOUNT OF PUBLIC INPUT.
THE ONLY QUESTION THAT REALLY COMES TO MIND IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT OUR BUDGETING PROCESS FOR 2025? MS. WHITE, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
AND AT THIS POINT, OUR UNDERSTANDING IS NO, THAT WE SHOULD BE BACK ON CYCLE FOR 2025.
THIS IS HOPEFULLY A ONE TIME DEAL, BUT I WILL ASK MR. PANDOO IF HE HAS ANY ADDITIONS TO ADD.
THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU, MRS. WHITE. PROCESS WISE, NO, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SEE ANY CHANGES OR RECURRENCE OF THE SAME UNLESS AGAIN, THERE ARE ANY ANYTHING ELSE THAT COMES FROM THE LEFT FIELD. HOWEVER, WE IT'S JUST 2024 BUT 20 AFTER THAT ONWARDS IT'S BACK ON SCHEDULE.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY.AND YEAH, IT MUST BE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SCHEDULE AND JANUARY AND FEBRUARY WILL BE PRETTY BUSY.
[5. A memorandum regarding whether to include and prioritise proposed budget initiatives submitted by Council members ]
SUBMITTED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS.MS. WHITE DID YOU HAVE ANY OPENING COMMENTS ON THIS ONE? THANK YOU. YES, JUST A FEW COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE INVITED TO SUBMIT THEIR PROPOSED INITIATIVES FOR BUDGET 2024 BY AUGUST 4TH, AND ADMINISTRATION HAD PREPARED COUNCIL'S PROPOSALS INTO THE LIST.
AND WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THIS MEMO TO GPC ON AUGUST 14TH.
SO WE ARE BRINGING IT BACK TODAY.
BUT THIS IS THE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT ADDED INTO BUDGET AND ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET ANYTHING THAT MAY NEED TO BE COSTED OUT FROM A PROCESS PERSPECTIVE INSTEAD OF KIND OF GOING ITEM BY ITEM, PAGE BY PAGE.
I'VE PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSED MOTION FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.
ONCE WE'RE DONE THIS BULK ONE, THEN OPEN IT UP TO OTHER MOTIONS.
AGAIN, COUNCIL MIGHT WANT TO TO PRESENT A BULK LIST OF ITEMS TO INCLUDE AS WELL.
ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER COULD SAY, I WANT TO DIVIDE THAT MOTION UP, BUT I THINK WE COULD MAYBE TACKLE A BIT MORE EFFICIENTLY IF WE WE PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER. SO WHAT I WAS GOING TO PROPOSE IS ONE THE COUNCIL DIRECT ADMINISTRATION TO INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS IN THE DRAFT 2024 BUDGET.
TWO $100,000 FOR A CONSULTANT TO REVIEW PROVIDE AN OPERATING MODEL RECOMMENDATION AND DRAFT A MULTIYEAR FUNDING PROPOSAL TO BE PRESENTED TO THE FEDERAL AND TERRITORIAL GOVERNMENT FOR A STREET OUTREACH PROGRAM.
THREE THAT IN 2024 $100,000 FROM THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE BE WITHDRAWN AND ALLOCATED TO THE START UP AND INITIAL FUNDING FOR THE DESTINATION MARKETING ORGANIZATION. AND THAT ONCE ESTABLISHED THE HOTEL LEVY FEES, PAY BACK THE $100,000 TO THE GENERAL FUND.
FOUR THAT $100,000 PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED TO THE HOMELESSNESS EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM BE REPROFILED TO A DOWNTOWN CLEANUP PROGRAM THAT INCLUDES DAILY LITTER, CLEANUP AND PRESSURE WASHING OF THE SIDEWALKS FROM JUNE 1ST TO SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2024, AND THAT THE FUNDING COMES FROM THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT FUND.
FIVE THAT ALL PARKING FEES INCREASE BY 15%.
SIX THAT ADMINISTRATION NOT INCLUDE $50,000 TOWARDS THE CAPITAL AREA COMMITTEE.
SEVEN THAT FUNDING BE INCLUDED TO HOLD A PUBLIC INFORMATION SLASH EDUCATION SESSION IN THE SPRING ON EVACUATION PREPAREDNESS, INCLUDING A THIRD PARTY TO BE A KEYNOTE AND FACILITATE. AND THEN THERE WAS A FEW POINTS THAT WERE RAISED, AND I'VE KIND OF LUMPED THESE AS TO BE INCLUDED IN FUTURE GPC AGENDAS FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.
0.1 THAT ADMINISTRATION RESEARCH, DROUGHT RESISTANCE, DROUGHT RESISTANT VEGETATION, LOW MAINTENANCE, VEGETATION AND NATURALIZATION OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUTDOOR CITY FACILITIES.
TWO THAT ADMINISTRATION BRING THE DESIGN STANDARDS TO GPC FOR COUNCIL REVIEW.
THREE THAT IN 2024 SERVICE LEVEL STANDARDS ARE DEVELOPED FOR PLANNING AND LANDS.
FOUR THAT ADMINISTRATION AMEND THE BUSINESS LICENSE BYLAW TO ALLOW LICENSES TO BE VALID FOR MORE THAN ONE YEAR AND UPDATE THE FEES AND CHARGES BYLAW TO INCLUDE INCLUDE A FEE FOR ONE, THREE AND FIVE YEAR LICENSE.
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WITH THAT, IS THERE ANY ITEM THAT COUNCIL WOULD WANT TO REMOVE FROM THE BULK? ABOUT THE BRING FORWARD TO FUTURE AGENDAS.THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T MAKE IT TO BUDGET 2024 BECAUSE WE STILL NEED TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
SO ALL OF THESE SIX ITEMS MIGHT NOT MAKE IT BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE DELIBERATE BUDGET.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THERE'S NOTHING WANTED TO REMOVE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S HELPFUL TO REMOVE THAT AND DISCUSS IT SEPARATELY.
I DON'T WANT TO REMOVE IT ENTIRELY.
JUST SORT OF HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT AMENDING THAT.
YEAH, WE CAN REMOVE THAT AND HAVE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO AMEND THAT.
I WILL BRING THAT DOWN FOR A SECOND PART DISCUSSION.
ANY OTHER ITEM THAT FOLKS WANT TO REMOVE BEFORE BEFORE WE DISCUSS THE THE MOTION AS A WHOLE AND THEN GO ON TO OTHER ITEMS? COUNCILLOR FEQUET, WHICH ITEM WOULD YOU LIKE TO REMOVE? UM, I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE OUTREACH ONE, SO, I DON'T KNOW.
YEAH, MAYBE JUST FOR A LITTLE CONTEXT.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S A FEW NGOS IN TOWN WHO HAVE REACHED OUT TO CITY ADMINISTRATION, AND WE'RE ASKING WHEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL ON POTENTIALLY EXPANDING THE STREET OUTREACH PROGRAM.
SO I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN IN TOUCH.
AND SO MY SUGGESTION IS JUST AT THIS TIME, I RECOGNIZE IT'S EASIER TO KEEP THINGS IN.
BUT I WANT FOLKS TO KNOW THAT WE'RE LIKELY GOING TO GET AN ACTUAL ESTIMATE AND A PROPOSAL FROM A COLLABORATION IN OUR COMMUNITY OF ORGANIZATIONS, AND WE LIKELY DON'T NEED HOPEFULLY TO SPEND THIS MONEY FOR LIKE A LIKE A CONSULTANT TO A REPORT FOR US.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S THAT WAS MY QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER TO KEEP THIS IN OR NOT.
WE COULD KEEP IT IN WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THEN COME JANUARY, WHEN WE BEGIN FEBRUARY, WHEN WE BEGIN DELIBERATIONS, THEN IT'S $100,000 THAT WE COULD REMOVE AT THAT TIME.
SO IF FOLKS ARE OKAY WITH KEEPING THAT IN THE BULK.
THANKS, MADAM CHAIR. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION, I GUESS IN THAT SAME VEIN, IF THIS IS OUR APPROACH, UNDERSTANDING TOO WE WANT CERTAIN THINGS IN THE BUDGET AND WE KNOW THAT AT THE THROUGH THE DETAILED DELIBERATIONS WILL HOPEFULLY BE REMOVING STUFF.
I DID WANT TO PUT IN THE REQUEST FOR THE OUTREACH PROGRAM FOR $2 MILLION, THE EXPANDED PROGRAM, BOTH IN HOURS AND IN QUALITY OF SERVICE THROUGH MEDICAL AND SOCIAL WORK PROFESSIONALS.
IT'S PROBABLY CLOSER TO $1.5 MILLION.
BUT AGAIN, THERE'S A COLLABORATION AMONGST ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW WORKING ON TO FIGURING OUT THAT NUMBER, AND I'D RATHER PUT IN A TEENSY BIT EXTRA AND BE ABLE TO DRAW THAT BACK DURING THOSE DELIBERATIONS.
SO THAT WAS THE RATIONALE FOR THAT REQUEST FOR THE FOR THE $2 MILLION.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS ALSO THAT THE CURRENT PROGRAM IS ABOUT $400,000.
SO THAT IS ABOUT A YOU KNOW, FIVE TIMES INCREASE.
OKAY. WELL, IF YOU CAN SEND ME THAT IN WRITING, BECAUSE WE'LL NEED THAT AND WE'LL PARK THAT.
THAT'S GOING TO BE SECOND PART DISCUSSION.
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ONE IS ABOUT THE $100,000.SO THE WAY IT'S WORDED IS TO DRAFT AND CONSULT ON AN AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR CAM LAKE.
AND SO IT'S BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS ABOUT THE ENTERPRISE DRIVE EXTENSION AND ITS CAPACITY WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO IT . SO I'M HOPING THAT STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO DO THE WORK NEXT YEAR.
AND THE IDEA IS THAT IT COMES FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT FUND AS OPPOSED TO TAXES, BECAUSE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT FUND CAN COVER FROM THE START OF DEVELOPMENT ALL THE WAY TO THE FINISH.
IF WE NEED TO DRAW IT FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT FUND, WE DRAW IT FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT FUND.
THE OTHER ONE THAT I IS A LITTLE CREATIVE, I GUESS WOULD BE 0.3, WHICH IS THE $100,000 FROM THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE. AND SO.
AND SO THE IDEA IS TO TO KIND OF FRONT END LOAD THIS SO THAT WE'RE NOT WAITING SIX MONTHS TO ACCUMULATE OR HOWEVER MUCH HOW LONG IT TAKES, WE'LL BE ABLE TO APPROVE THE HOTEL LEVY AND HAVE SOME FUNDS TO ACTUALLY BEGIN A DESTINATION MARKETING ORGANIZATION.
IF COUNCIL DOESN'T SUPPORT THE HOTEL LEVY BYLAW OR DOESN'T SUPPORT THE DESTINATION MARKETING ORGANIZATION, OR IF NEITHER OF THOSE COME FORWARD IN 2024, NO SKIN OFF OUR BACK, THE $100,000 REMAINS IN THE GENERAL FUND.
BUT I GUESS A QUESTION TO MS. WHITE IS IF THIS IS LEGALLY ALLOWED A LITTLE CREATIVE, BUT CHECKING ON IF IT'S POSSIBLE.
MS. WHITE THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
AND I KNOW MS. THISTLE IS ON THE LINE IF SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THIS QUESTION.
THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.
SO IT'S BORROWING $100,000 FROM THAT TO THEN BE REPAID FROM THE HOTEL LEVY.
AND I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE WAS PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY.
BUT OPENING IT UP TO QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DISCUSSION.
COUNCILLOR WARBURTON. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
IT'S A LOT OF WORK FOR ADMINISTRATION.
CAN WE MAYBE GET THAT SHIFTED OR CHANGED TO BASICALLY A PRESENTATION ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A LOT MORE WORK THAN THAT LOOKS LIKE.
I WILL FLAG THAT AND PUT THAT ADMINISTRATION BRING FORWARD A MEMO, A PRESENTATION.
I'LL WORDSMITH IT TO GET THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? DISCUSSION? COUNCILLOR COCHRANE.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MY ONLY COMMENT TOWARDS THIS IS I THINK THIS IS VERY REASONABLE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VERY BARE BONES BUDGETING PROCESS COMING TOWARDS US HERE AND I'D LIKE TO SEE MOST OF THESE MOVE FORWARD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.
WE WILL BRING THAT PART FORWARD TO OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH IS ON THE 23RD.
SO THAT THE FIRST ONE THAT WAS PARKING LOT.
THAT FUNDING BE INCLUDED TO HOLD A PUBLIC INFORMATION EDUCATION SESSION IN THE SPRING ON EVACUATION PREPAREDNESS, INCLUDING A THIRD PARTY TO BE A KEYNOTE AND FACILITATE COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IN LIEU OF THAT OR OR MODIFICATION TO THAT? COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO PROPOSE IN REGARDS TO THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OR EDUCATION SESSION?
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YES. SORRY.CALL JUST DROPPED AND JUST GOT BACK IN.
I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD TO THAT OUR REQUEST FOR COSTING TO UPDATE OUR EVACUATION FRAMEWORK AND DOING SOME RESEARCH AND READING ABOUT DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES PLANS IN TERMS OF PLANS AND FRAMEWORKS, FRAMEWORKS FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND EVACUATIONS YELLOWKNIFE HAS THAT I CAN FIND PUBLICLY 17 PAGE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN AND A 6 PAGE EVACUATION FRAMEWORK.
WHITEHORSE HAS A 45 PAGE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN, 44 PAGE PUBLIC SAFETY PROTECTION PLAN, 22 PAGE CRISIS COMMUNICATION PLAN 39 PAGE HAZARD IDENTIFICATION AND RISK ANALYSIS.
COMMUNITY ASSEMBLY MAPS WITH ASSEMBLY POINTS FOR 38 DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL AS SIMPLE NEED TO KNOWS ON SHELTERING IN PLACE EVAC ORDER VERSUS ALERT AND HOW TO PACK AN EMERGENCY KIT.
THERE'S A LOT OF USEFUL INFORMATION IN THESE DOCUMENTS, SPECIFICALLY PUBLIC SAFETY PROTECTION PLAN, JUST SOME OF THE INFO INCLUDED IN THAT PLAN THAT WHITEHORSE HAS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN USEFUL IN AUGUST FOR THE PUBLIC AND WOULD BE USEFUL IN THE FUTURE ARE THE ASSUMPTIONS BEHIND EVACUATION PLANNING, THE DETAILED ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, INCLUDING OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT, A FORMULA FOR DETERMINING WHEN TO ISSUE AN EVACUATION ORDER.
EVACUATION ZONES LAID OUT AND MAPPED CONSIDERATIONS FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL.
REST AREAS ALONG THE EVACUATION ROUTE.
CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING HOST COMMUNITIES, MEANS TO ADDRESS SECURITY CONCERNS.
THE ROLES OF A CITY LIAISON, INCLUDING DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES SERVING AT RISK POPULATIONS THAT THEY'LL COORDINATE WITH THINGS WITH ANIMAL CARE AND AN EMERGENCY POWERS MATRIX.
SO THIS IS BEING DONE IN THE NORTH.
ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IS BEING PROVIDED BY OTHER CITIES IN THE NORTH.
AND WE COST AN UPDATE TO OUR EVACUATION FRAMEWORK.
JUST TO NOTE, IN THE AFTER ACTION ASSESSMENT, THE CONSULTANT IS ONE OF THE ITEMS IS PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COMMUNITY BASED EVACUATION PLANS THAT RECOGNIZE THE NORTHERN, REMOTE AND LIMITED MEANS OF EGRESS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE CITY'S EVACUATION FRAMEWORK.
FACTORS INCLUDE LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY AND LEGAL FRAMEWORK, TERRITORIAL AGREEMENTS, INFORMATION FLOW, RISK MANAGEMENT, DECISION MAKING PROCESS, RESOURCE CAPACITY, SUPPORT FOR VULNERABLE POPULATIONS AND ENGAGEMENT AND COMMUNICATIONS PROCESSES.
THERE IS A LOT OF WORK COMING AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND EVERY SINGLE RECOMMENDATION THAT I'VE SEEN IN [INAUDIBLE] COST MONEY.
SO [INAUDIBLE] COME JUNE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRETTY BIG AND THE THING THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE IS AN AFTER ACTION WORK PLAN THAT PRIORITIZES THAT HAS RECOMMENDED PRIORITIZATION SO THAT WE CAN ASSIGN FOR FOLLOW UP AND IMPLEMENTATION SINCE IT WILL BE SUCH A SIGNIFICANT BUDGET.
SO JUST SOMETHING FOR FOLKS TO CONSIDER, HOWEVER, IF FOLKS DO WANT TO UPDATE OUR EVACUATION FRAMEWORK I NCLUDE FUNDING FOR THAT AS WELL AS HAVING THE CONSULTANTS DO THIS OTHER WORK.
COUNCILLOR FEQUET. THANKS, MADAM CHAIR.
SORRY IF I DIDN'T CATCH IT TOM, DID YOU HAVE AN AMOUNT THAT YOU WERE PROPOSING THAT YOU THOUGHT SHOULD BE ADDED TO THIS FOR THE UPDATE OF THE FRAMEWORK? UM, OR YOU JUST WANT A GENERAL, GENERAL REQUEST OR INCLUSION OF THAT.
HIS REQUEST WAS THAT ADMIN COST OUT AN UPDATE OF THE EVACUATION FRAMEWORK.
THAT WAS CORRECT. COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.
YEAH. DEPUTY MAYOR ARDEN-SMITH.
THANK YOU IN PART WITH THIS I'M JUST THINKING BACK TO MY CONVERSATION, ACTUALLY, MY CONVERSATION AND COUNCILLOR WARBURTON'S CONVERSATION WITH THE MAYOR OF RED DEER.
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SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOUR HEAVY HITTERS ALL GET TOGETHER.THEY GO TO THE SAME ARENA AND THEY SET THEMSELVES UP SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IT ENDS UP RUNNING SMOOTHLY AND NOTING THAT WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS COMMUNITIES COME TO YELLOWKNIFE NEEDING SHELTER FROM THEIR EVAC AND NOTING, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF AND WHEN THIS SHOULD HAPPEN AGAIN, THAT WE ARE RUNNING SMOOTHLY.
DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE WISE TO HAVE FUNDING PUT FORWARD FOR THIS SO THAT OUR TEAM IS WELL PREPARED FOR THE NEXT EVACUATION AND WE KNOW THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES? THANK YOU. THE ONE THING COUNCIL MAY WANT TO CONSIDER IS, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO PAY SOMEBODY CLOSE TO MAYBE MORE, BUT THE RFP SAYS $150,000 TO CREATE THIS AFTER ACTION WORK PLAN WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PRIORITIZE ACTIONS, ACTIVITIES OR TASKS FOR IMPLEMENTATION. SO IN LIEU OF US SELECTING THIS IDEA OR THE EVACUATION PLAN UPDATE, WE COULD PUT $100,000, QUARTER OF A MILLION WHATEVER FIGURE PEOPLE WANT INTO BUDGET 2024 TO BEGIN IMPLEMENTATION RIGHT AWAY.
SO IT'S NOT COUNCIL PICKING THE ACTION THAT WE WANT TO SEE.
IT'S BASED ON THE AFTER ACTION WORK PLAN THAT'S GOING TO COME FORWARD.
BUT PERHAPS I'LL ASK MS. WHITE IF HAS THE ADMINISTRATION CONSIDERED ADDING ANY FUNDING IN THE 2024 BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THE AFTER ACTION WORK PLAN? MS. WHITE.
YES. SO THERE HAVE BEEN CONVERSATIONS ONGOING AND I WILL ASK MR. MACLEAN TO FOLLOW UP.
SO THOSE WOULD BE PROPOSED AS PART OF THE DRAFT 2024 BUDGET.
BUT I WILL ASK MR. MACLEAN IF HE HAS ANYTHING TO ADD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.
SO TO START OFF, WE HAVE CONTEMPLATED STAFFING FOR MAINTENANCE UPDATE, CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT ON OUR FULL SCOPE OF OUR EMERGENCY PROGRAM.
I JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT THERE'S MORE LAYERS TO A COMMUNITY EMERGENCY RESPONSE PREPAREDNESS THAN A WILDFIRE PLAN AND AN EVACUATION PLAN. WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT ALL THE COMPONENTS OF OUR EMERGENCY PROGRAM, INCLUDING EXISTING AND NEW DATA THAT'S COME IN THIS SUMMER FROM WILDFIRE BEHAVIOR AND FOCUS ON AN ENTERPRISE WIDE EMERGENCY PROGRAM REVIEW AND UPDATE, INCLUDING OUR COMMUNITY EMERGENCY PLAN, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN STARTED AND A NEW DRAFT AS OF THIS SPRING, OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT BYLAW, OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER FRAMEWORK, OUR EVACUATION FRAMEWORK, THERE'S ALREADY BEEN INTEREST ARISING FROM OUR COMMUNITY WILDFIRE PROTECTION PLAN. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR WILDFIRE PROTECTION AND WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FOR PRE-PLANNING SHOULD ANOTHER WILDFIRE NOT ONLY ENCROACH FROM THE OUTSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY, AS WE SAW THIS PAST SEASON, BUT ALSO FOR CONTINGENCIES FOR WILDFIRE THAT START WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH ARE TWO VERY DIFFERENT ASPECTS THAT WE NEED TO CONTEMPLATE HERE.
WE ALSO HAVE A BUSINESS CONTINUITY PLAN, COMMUNICATIONS PLAN, PANDEMIC PLANNING AND TRAINING AND EXERCISE PLANNING, AND THAT ALL ALIGNS WITH THE NWT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ACT, THE NWT EMERGENCY PLAN, THE NWT EVACUATION GUIDELINES, AND THE NWT EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS PLAN.
WE NEED TO ALSO CONTEMPLATE WHAT'S THE INTERDEPENDENCY ON THE NORTH SLAVE COMMUNITIES AS WE SAW THIS PAST SEASON AND HOW THEY RELY ON YELLOWKNIFE AS A REGIONAL SUPPORT SYSTEM.
SO I'M REALLY GLAD WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT MORE THAN TWO SINGULAR COMPONENTS OF EVACUATION AND WILDFIRE, AND WE NEED TO CONTEMPLATE OUR WHOLE EMERGENCY FRAMEWORK.
ANY OTHER POINTS ON WHETHER TO INCLUDE COSTING TO UPDATE OUR EVACUATION FRAMEWORK OR C OSTING TO COMPLETE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS TRAINING OR TO GO MORE BROAD WITH A FIGURE TO IMPLEMENT RECOMMENDATIONS? COUNCILLOR FEQUET. THANKS, MADAM CHAIR.
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ASSESSMENT AND THAT COUNCIL SEEMED PRETTY PRETTY YOU KNOW, SUPPORTIVE OF HAVING SOME INTERIM FINDINGS COME TO US SO THAT ANY TIME SENSITIVE RECOMMENDATIONS COULD BE CONSIDERED PRIOR TO THE NEXT YEAR'S FIRE SEASON.SO I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF WHAT YOU SUGGESTED ABOUT INCLUDING THAT TOWARDS IMPLEMENTATION AND WHETHER THAT INCLUDES WHAT COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN SUGGESTED, WHICH IS LIKE AN UPDATE TO SPECIFIC PLANS OR ACTUALLY JUST DEALING WITH THOSE TIME SENSITIVE RECOMMENDATIONS, I THINK IT CAN BE BROAD ENOUGH THAT IT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DECIDE AT THAT TIME ONCE WE ONCE WE SEE THOSE INTERIM FINDINGS AND IF THERE IS ANYTHING WE NEED TO ACT ON RIGHT AWAY AND OR FROM THE FROM THE WORKSHOP, THAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SESSION, YOU MENTIONED THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GET.
AND YOU KNOW, IF THE PUBLIC IS VERY HAS STRONG OPINIONS ON WHAT THEY NEED TO SEE.
TO BE CLEAR SO THEN YOU WOULD WANT TWO POINTS THAT FUNDING BE INCLUDED TO HOLD A PUBLIC INFORMATION AND EDUCATION SESSION AND THAT $100,000 BE INCLUDED TO IMPLEMENT RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE AFTER ACTION ASSESSMENT OR JUST GO WITH THE $100,000 INCLUDED TO IMPLEMENT RECOMMENDATIONS AND PERHAPS IT'S A PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION OR COSTING OR THE EVACUATION FRAMEWORK OR TRAINING.
DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE? UH, THANKS, MADAM CHAIR.
I GUESS I WASN'T SURE FROM FROM YOUR SUGGESTION.
WHAT WAS THE TIMING YOU WERE ENVISIONING FOR THIS PUBLIC SESSION? WAS IT AFTER THE INTERIM FINDINGS COME IN OR WAS IT LATER AFTER THE FINAL REPORT COMES IN OR SOMEWHERE BEFORE THEN? FOR ME IT WAS IN THE SPRING SO WHETHER THAT'S MARCH, APRIL, SO THAT IT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION EDUCATION, THERE'S A THIRD PARTY THAT CAN TALK ABOUT HOW THE PUBLIC CAN BE PREPARED FOR AN EVACUATION, TALK ABOUT THE ROLES OF GOVERNMENT.
HAVE THE CITY AND THE GNWT THERE TO TALK ABOUT THEIR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES AT IT.
BUT IT'S MORE OF AN INFORMATION AND EDUCATION SESSION AND NOT LOOKING TO HEAR PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCE, BUT HELPING PEOPLE TO PREPARE FOR AN EVACUATION IF IT WERE TO BE NEEDED AGAIN.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
I'D BE IN SUPPORT OF EITHER OR SO BOTH ITEMS OR THE BROADER IMPLEMENTATION.
SO I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF EITHER EITHER OPTION.
SO WHAT IS THAT $100,000 GO TO IF IT'S EXTERNAL? DO WE KNOW IT'S $100,000? WE OFTEN KNOW THAT THERE'S PROJECTS THAT DON'T GET DONE, SO THEN THERE'S MONEY IN THE BUDGET.
SO DO WE NEED TO ACTUALLY HAVE MONEY ALREADY SET? AND THIS IS MAYBE I'M GETTING INTO JANUARY, SO PLEASE FEEL FREE.
SO I MEAN, THERE'S A PART OF ME THAT GOES PUT IT IN BETTER TO HAVE IT.
THEN WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IN JANUARY.
SO I'M LEANING SORT OF TOWARDS THAT, BUT I DO SORRY, I DO.
ALSO, I'M COGNIZANT OF THE MORE WE ADD NOW.
SO I GUESS I'M THROWING THAT OPEN TO EVERYBODY ELSE, ALL MY COLLEAGUES.
SO THEN IS THERE BUDGET THAT IS REQUIRED? I'M SPINNING IN CIRCLES, SO I'LL PASS IT BACK TO YOU CHAIR.
REALLY SCARY NUMBER IN THE HEADLINE, TAKE STUFF OUT, LOOK LIKE HEROES OR ADD STUFF AND THE $100,000 I WOULD ALSO SAY IF THE CONSULTANTS GOT TO DELIVER THE REPORT BY JUNE, JULY AND AUGUST,
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KIND OF SUMMER MONTHS, NOT THE GREATEST TIME TO ENGAGE.AND THEN WE'RE JUST INTO THE TAIL END.
SO CAN THERE ACTUALLY BE THAT MUCH WORK OR WOULD IT BE BUDGET 2025 WHERE WE START GETTING THEN WE'LL ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THE COSTING IS FOR, FOR ALL OF THE ACTIONS.
SO THAT'S WHERE IT'S OPENING IT UP TO COUNCIL.
IF IT'S WE REALLY NEED TO ADD THIS MONEY SO THAT BOOTS CAN HIT THE GROUND BOTH STAFF, PLUS, YOU KNOW, SOME EXTRA FUNDING TO GET CONSULTANTS TO WORK.
I'M NOT I AM GENERALLY STILL IN SUPPORT OF PUTTING SOMETHING IN FOR COMMUNICATIONS PURPOSES THAT IS DEDICATED JUST BECAUSE WE'VE SAID IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS.
AND I KIND OF WANTED TO, AT THE SAME TIME NOTE THAT TAKE AWAY FOR ANY MEDIA IN THE ROOM THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY LIKE THE BUDGET IS GOING TO LOOK TERRIFYING THIS YEAR AND LIKE I THINK WE SHOULD MAYBE BE PREPARING AND THIS SHOULD BE ALSO PART OF THE KIND OF THIS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS BEING IMPORTANT IS THAT WE I BELIEVE THAT AS A COUNCIL WE SHOULD BE PREPARING PEOPLE FOR THAT REALITY, THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY DIFFERENT YEAR.
SO ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF ADDING $100,000 TO IMPLEMENT RECOMMENDATIONS AND FUNDING TO HOLD A PUBLIC INFORMATION AND EDUCATION SESSION OR PREFERENCES MORE TO DO ONE OR THE OTHER? BOTH? I THINK.
I THINK BOTH, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IMPLEMENTATION IS GOING TO BE ITS OWN VERY EXPENSIVE AND SEPARATE THING THAN PUBLIC, SORT OF REVISION. SO YEAH, FOR SURE.
AND TO NOTE IN THE MEMO, IT IS, YOU KNOW.
LAST YEAR, THE ANTICIPATION WAS 10.45% TAX INCREASE IN 2024.
AND THEN THE CURRENT CALCULATION IS FOR EVERY $350,000 INCREASE REQUIRES A 1% IN PROPERTY TAX.
SO ALREADY WE ARE AT $100,000 -$50,000 $ 50,000. ADDING THIS WOULD BE $150,000.
SO ADJUSTING THE TAX INCREASE UP A BIT.
WHO WILL BE TAKING THE LEAD ON IMPLEMENTATION HERE? BUT I DON'T THINK I'M OKAY WITH ADDING BOTH TO THE DISCUSSION AND THEN HAVING THE FURTHER DISCUSSION HERE COME THE BUDGET PERIOD.
COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THANKS FOR THE DISCUSSION FROM EVERYONE.
I THINK MY INTENT WITH ASKING FOR A SPECIFIC COST OF AN EVACUATION PLAN IS WITH A MIND TO HAVING A SOMETHING CONCRETE AND THAT THE PUBLIC PRESENTATION GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THIS HAVING SOMETHING CONCRETE TO SHOW THE PUBLIC BEFORE THE NEXT FIRE SEASON, LIKE WE NEED TO START SHOWING ACTION AND THAT THINGS ARE HAPPENING WITH THE AIM TO HAVE DELIVERABLES BEFORE THEN OR SOMETHING.
I THINK WE NEED TO START WORKING ON CONCRETE ACTIONS THAT WE CAN SHOW THE PUBLIC TO START REBUILDING TRUST, BECAUSE FROM MY COMMUNICATIONS WITH RESIDENTS, IT'S EXTREMELY LOW.
AND I'M SEEKING TO GIVE US A NUMBER THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT AT BUDGET.
INSTEAD OF JUST THE RANDOM $100,000.
THEY'LL DEFINITELY NEED TO BE MONEY FOR IMPLEMENTATION.
BUT IF WE CAN HAVE A MONEY LIKE A NUMBER TO DISCUSS A BUDGET, THIS IS WHAT WE CAN PUT IN THE BUDGET IN ORDER TO HAVE SOMETHING CONCRETE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT PERFECT OR FINAL OR WHATEVER, BEFORE THE NEXT FIRE SEASON.
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AND I THINK THEY'LL BE THEY'LL NEED TO BE MONEY FOR IMPLEMENTATION AND WE OBVIOUSLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING AS A WHOLE GROUP, BUT I'M JUST LOOKING TO HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT BEFORE THE FIRE SEASON.THANK YOU. I WOULD NOTE IT WILL BE CHALLENGING BECAUSE AS THE PRESENTATION BEFORE WAS TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE APPROVING OUR BUDGET TILL FEBRUARY 12TH, SO ADMINISTRATION WON'T BE ABLE TO ISSUE RFPS UNTIL AFTER FEBRUARY 12TH AND THEN ISSUING, AWARDING, COMPLETING THE WORK BY I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE ARE DEFINING AS THE START OF FIRE SEASON MAY 1ST.
SO I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE, AGAIN TO COUNCILLOR MCGURKS' POINT THAT WE'RE BEING REALISTIC AND WITH RESIDENTS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, THAT, YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY ALL OF OUR TIMELINES ARE KICKED BACK FOR PROJECTS IN 2025.
WE WON'T HAVE OUR BUDGET APPROVED TILL FEBRUARY 12TH, SO ADMINISTRATION WON'T BE ABLE TO START WORKING ON ANY OF THIS UNTIL AFTER FEBRUARY 12TH, WHICH AGAIN, THEN THEY WOULD START DRAFTING RFPS AFTER THAT.
SO AGAIN, IT'S WORKING BACKWARDS.
IT WOULD BE TIGHT TO SHOW THE PUBLIC ANYTHING FOR A LIKE A FULL REVISION.
SO COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN ARE YOU OKAY WITH THEN THAT $100,000 BE INCLUDED FOR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT PUBLIC INFORMATION EDUCATION SESSION HAPPENS, PLUS YOU WANT A COSTING TO UPDATE OUR EVACUATION FRAMEWORK? BECAUSE I'LL THEN JUST CIRCLE WITH COUNCIL ON THAT LAST POINT IF YOU STILL WANT THAT COSTING TO UPDATE OUR EVACUATION FRAMEWORK INCLUDED FOR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS.
COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN ARE YOU BACK? OH, THERE YOU GO. WE GOT YOU.
YEAH. SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING IN THE LAST COUPLE MINUTES.
OKAY. SORRY. I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK.
YOU'RE IN SUPPORT OF THE $100,000 THE PUBLIC INFORMATION EDUCATION SESSION.
AND YOU WOULD LIKE THE COSTING TO UPDATE OUR EVACUATION FRAMEWORK.
SO I HEAR MAJORITY SUPPORT ON THE FIRST TWO THE $100,000 AND THE PUBLIC INFORMATION EDUCATION SESSION SO WE'LL INCLUDE THAT IN THAT BULK. BUT TO THE COSTING TO UPDATE OUR EVACUATION FRAMEWORK, IS THERE SUPPORT TO ADD THAT TO THE MOTION OR NOT? COUNCILLOR WARBURTON.
SO THE $100,000 IS A BIT OF MONEY TOWARDS IT.
THE INFESTATION IS GREAT, BUT LET'S NOT GET AHEAD OF OURSELVES.
WE NEED INFORMATION TO EVEN START QUANTIFYING THAT WE HAVE NO IDEA.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW MY BUDGET THAT NUMBER YET, SO I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF INCLUDING THAT.
THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR COCHRANE.
I THINK. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
I ENTIRELY UNDERSTAND THIS EXERCISE, BUT TRYING TO INSTILL CONFIDENCE BY DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR FEQUET AND THEN COUNCILLOR HENDRIKSEN.
THAT'S A PRETTY FAST TIMELINE.
IT'S STARTING AND IT'S GOING TO BE DONE.
SO I'M DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT OF DOING THIS.
I THINK THAT IT'S MAYBE WE WANT TO JUST WAIT A COUPLE OF MONTHS TILL WE HAVE THE FINAL REPORT BECAUSE THAT WILL INFORM HOW AND TO WARBURTON COUNCILLOR WARBURTON POINT, YOU KNOW, HOW BIG, HOW SMALL, LIKE WE DON'T WE DON'T REALLY KNOW THE, THE MAGNITUDE OF THAT EXERCISE.
LIKE WE MIGHT HAVE TO BUDGET A LOT OF MONEY TO DO THAT OR IT MIGHT BE A $50 OR $100,000 EXERCISE.
SO I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT IN PRINCIPLE.
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THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR HENDRIKSEN.LAST TIME I SPOKE, MY HEAD WAS STILL THINKING IT ALL THROUGH.
SO THANK YOU TO COUNCILLOR WARBURTON FOR CLEARING IT UP FOR ME AND PROVIDING THAT SUCCINCT SO SUCCINCTLY AND COUNCILLOR FEQUET FOR HIGHLIGHTING THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS WORK HAS TO BE DONE, BUT LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE LISTEN TO THE AFTER ACTION ASSESSMENT.
THANKS. AND FOR MYSELF, I'M ALSO NOT IN SUPPORT OF IT.
AND I DO THINK WE ARE GOING TO DO A LOT.
WE'RE GOING TO PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS.
AND EVACUATING BECAUSE OF A WILDFIRE MIGHT NOT BE THE ONLY TIME THAT WE DO IT.
SO AND THAT WOULD LOOK DIFFERENT THAN THAT, AT A DIFFERENT TIME.
SO I THINK BEING CLEAR AND COMMUNICATING TO THE PUBLIC ALL THE INVESTMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WILL BE IMPORTANT IN 2024, BUT WON'T BE IN SUPPORT OF INCLUDING THAT.
COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN DID YOU WANT ANYTHING FURTHER ON THAT POINT OR.
NO THANKS VERY MUCH. AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S POINTS.
AND YEAH, THANKS FOR THE GOOD DISCUSSION.
YEAH, I THINK I JUST HAVE A DIFFERENT A DIFFERENT OPINION THAT WE KNOW WHAT WAS PRESENTED WASN'T SORT OF GAINED ENOUGH INFORMATION BY THE PUBLIC.
SO JUST WANTING TO GET MOVING AND GET GOING WITH THAT RIGHT AWAY.
BUT I UNDERSTAND, FOLLOWING THE PROCESS, I THINK YEAH, I JUST I JUST WANT TO GET MOVING, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE PROCESS AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE DISCUSSION AND EVERYONE ELSE'S COMMENTS.
SO I'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF $100,000 AND THE MONEY FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST PRELIMINARY.
SO THE NEXT MOTION THAT I'VE GOT IN THE QUEUE IS TO INCLUDE $2 MILLION IN THE 2024 BUDGET FOR AN EXPANDED STREET OUTREACH PROGRAM.
COUNCILLOR FEQUET WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? [INAUDIBLE] MADAM CHAIR.
YEAH, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM A LOT AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS AND A LOT OF GOOD MODELS AND, YOU KNOW, SUCCESSFUL AND NOT SO SUCCESSFUL EXAMPLES OF HOW THIS HAS RUN IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND OTHER COUNTRIES.
THE CURRENT STREET OUTREACH PROGRAM PROVIDES AN INVALUABLE SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
I HOPE MOST PEOPLE AGREE WITH THAT.
AND WHILE THE ISSUES ARE LARGER THAN JUST THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE, EXPANDING FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM FROM THE CITY TO EXPAND THE HOURS AND THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS ONE TANGIBLE ACTION THAT WE CAN TAKE IN THIS SPACE.
AND THE YELLOWKNIFE WOMEN'S SOCIETY'S RECENT STORIES HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THIS ONGOING NEED.
AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY, THERE ARE GROUPS WITH MEDICAL AND SOCIAL EXPERTISE THAT ARE COLLABORATING TO PREPARE AN ESTIMATE FOR WHAT A PROGRAM SHOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THE CITY AND WHAT THAT WOULD COST.
AND MY HOPE IS THAT WILL BE PRESENTED LATER THIS MONTH WHEN THE PUBLIC HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THAT TO COUNCIL AMONGST ALL THEIR WISH LISTS FOR THE BUDGET. AND AT THAT TIME WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHETHER THIS MAKES SENSE AND WHETHER THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN WE CAN DO.
SO THAT WAS THE RATIONALE FOR PUTTING THIS MOTION FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
I WOULD NOTE TOO, THEN SO THESE ARE COUNCIL'S PRIORITIES THEN NEXT OR NOT NEXT.
BUT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING YEAH.
OCTOBER 23RD, WE'LL HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
SO AGAIN, THIS ISN'T OUR FIRST AND ONLY DISCUSSION ABOUT BUDGET 2024.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LOTS OF THEM.
AND SO OPENING IT UP TO DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ADDING $2 MILLION COUNCILLOR HENDRIKSEN.
THANK YOU, MAYOR ALTY AND THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR FEQUET, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
LET'S WAIT FOR THAT HEAR WHAT THAT MEAT AND POTATOES IS FROM THE EXPERTS.
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LET'S HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WHEN THAT PRESENTATION COMES.SO I 100% IN SUPPORT OF DOING SOMETHING MEANINGFUL.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW FROM THE EXPERTS WHAT THAT MEANINGFUL IS.
SO I WOULDN'T BE SUPPORTIVE TODAY OF PUTTING THIS FORWARD.
BUT I MEAN, I'LL BE BEHIND WHATEVER THE EXPERTS SAY I CAN TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW.
SORRY, COUNCILLOR PAYNE. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF OF ADDING THIS $2 MILLION, I THINK.
I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT COMMITMENTS WE HAVE FROM THE GNWT.
I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FROM THE NGOS.
SO I THINK WE HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE WITH IT.
THANK YOU. YEAH, ADDING $2 MILLION WOULD BE A 5.71% TAX INCREASE SO THAT WOULD BRING IF LAST YEAR'S PROJECTION OF 10.45% IS CORRECT, THEN IT WOULD BRING US UP TO 16.16%.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I THINK COUNCILLOR HENDRIKSEN HAD BASICALLY ECHOED EXACTLY HOW I FEEL WHEN THE CONTENT EXPERTS GET HERE AND GIVE US A FULSOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S COMING AND WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
I'M PREPARED TO PUT THAT ONTO THE BUDGET AFTER THAT.
BUT UNTIL THIS TIME, I'M NOT FEELING COMFORTABLE PUTTING A PLACEHOLDER NUMBER THERE.
THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR ARDEN-SMITH.
THANK YOU AGAIN, KIND OF MIMICKING WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID.
BUT IF MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT, WHEN WE WERE FIRST STARTING TO TALK ABOUT STREET OUTREACH, WE DID HAVE THE FUNDING FROM THE GNWT, AND THEN SOMEHOW IT LANDED IN OUR LAPS ALL BY OURSELVES.
SO WE'RE WORKING ON BUILDING THAT PARTNERSHIP ONCE AGAIN.
SO I WANT TO SEE THAT BEFORE WE START FORKING OUT MORE MONEY.
WE WANT TO HAVE THOSE MEANINGFUL CO FUNDING AND PARTNERSHIPS FOR THIS PROGRAM.
IT IS MUCH NEEDED AND AND IT HAS TO BE A GROUP EFFORT NOT SOLELY ON THE SHOULDERS OF ONE.
COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN DID YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THAT ONE? YEAH, JUST A QUESTION.
IF WE WAITED FOR THE NGO'S RECOMMENDATION, ASSUMING THAT HAS A DOLLAR FIGURE, WOULD WE SORT OF NEED TO ADD THAT DURING DELIBERATIONS OR WOULD THERE STILL BE TIME TO ADD THAT SPECIFIC NGO DOLLAR FIGURE INTO THE BUDGET AS IT WOULD BE FIRST PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC? WHEN THE PUBLIC COMES ON OCTOBER 23RD COUNCIL COULD DO ONE OF TWO THINGS.
WE COULD TAKE IT FOR INFORMATION, DIGEST IT, BRING IT FORWARD FOR DISCUSSION AT OUR NEXT GPC, AND THEN FROM THAT GPC DISCUSSION DIRECT ADMINISTRATION TO INCLUDE IT IN THE 2024 BUDGET.
OR WE CAN SAY BAM, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
MOTION TO INCLUDE IT RIGHT AWAY.
MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ON OCTOBER 23RD.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL IS SOMETHING THAT WE'D WANT TO INCLUDE IN THE BUDGET, THAT WE BRING THAT FORWARD TO A GPC FOR DISCUSSION AND THEN HAVE A SIMILAR DISCUSSION AS THIS THAT WE DIRECT ADMINISTRATION TO INCLUDE IT IN THE BUDGET.
SO POST FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC WE CAN INCLUDE IT IN IN THE DRAFT 2024 BUDGET.
THANK YOU, FOR MYSELF, I'M ALSO NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE $2 MILLION.
I AM IN SUPPORT. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS BRINGING FORWARD THAT $100,000 FOR A CONSULTANT TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE AN OPERATING MODEL RECOMMENDATION AND DRAFTING A MULTI-YEAR FUNDING PROPOSAL TO BE PRESENTED TO THE FEDERAL AND TERRITORIAL GOVERNMENT.
AND SO THERE'S NIB, WHICH DOESN'T ALLOW AN AMBULANCE HAS TO BRING SOMEBODY TO THE AN EMERGENCY SERVICE, SO IT HAS TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL.
SO THERE MIGHT BE OPPORTUNITY.
I AM INTRIGUED TO SEE WHAT IS COMING FORWARD TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
HOWEVER, I ALSO WOULDN'T LIMIT IT TO AN NGO IF THE PRIVATE MARKET, THE THE EMS OR WHATEVER HAVE A YEAH, SO I WOULDN'T BE SET ON JUST ONE.
BECAUSE I THINK RIGHT NOW EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT IDEA OF WHAT STREET OUTREACH IS SUPPOSED TO DO.
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AND SO AGAIN, WHAT WHATEVER IS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD, WHAT THEIR OBJECTIVES FOR SUCCESS ARE, DO THEY ALIGN WITH WHAT THE CITY IS TRYING TO ACHIEVE? SO I'M INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT'S WHAT'S COMING.BUT I ALSO WANT TO LEAVE THAT $100,000 IN THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE FULSOME WHAT ARE WE ACTUALLY TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH THIS AND HOW CAN WE WE DO THAT? SO. SO NOT HEARING GENERAL SUPPORT FOR ADDING THE $2 MILLION, BUT FOLKS ARE INTRIGUED BY THE PRESENTATION THAT'S COMING FORWARD.
ANY OTHER POINTS THAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO BRING FORWARD FOR DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.
I WILL TWEAK THAT ONE ABOUT 0.6 ABOUT THE.
AND TWO TO BE ABOUT WHAT ARE THE STEPS REQUIRED.
A BIT MORE OF A PRESENTATION VERSUS A MEMO.
OH, SORRY. COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.
GENERAL QUESTIONS? IF THAT'S THE TIME.
YOU'RE GOOD TO GO IF YOU HAVE GENERAL QUESTIONS.
OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE STILL THE $100,000 IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN ENERGY EFFICIENCY FUND IN THE 2024 BUDGET? IS THE PLAN STILL TO BEGIN WORK ON THE COMMUNITY ENERGY PLAN IN 2024? AND CAN WE STILL DO THAT WORK IN-HOUSE, JUST GIVEN THE CAPACITY ISSUE FOR US? MS. WHITE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION, AND I'M ACTUALLY EXCITED TO ANSWER.
YES, THE MONEY IS IN THE DRAFT PLAN FOR 2024.
WE HAVE WELCOMED TWO WEEKS AGO A CLIMATE CHANGE AND ENVIRONMENT COORDINATOR WHO WILL BE WORKING ON THE COMMUNITY AND CORPORATE ENERGY PLAN, AS WELL AS LOOKING AT FOR THE 2025 TO 2035 UPDATE EXPANDING THAT TO INCLUDE CLIMATE CHANGE ADAPTATION AND MITIGATION.
IT WILL BE PART IN-HOUSE, PART DONE BY A CONSULTANT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THAT ACTUALLY WILL ENTAIL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S AWESOME TO HEAR.
YEAH, IT WHAT IS AND IS THERE STILL FUNDING FOR THE VISITOR CENTER ART GALLERY IN BUDGET 2020? MS. WHITE.
THANK YOU. AND I'LL ASK MS. THISTLE IF SHE'D LIKE TO ANSWER THIS.
SO I BELIEVE IT'S FAIRLY ACCURATE.
ONE LAST ONE BEFORE IT STARTS CUTTING OUT ON ME AGAIN.
JUST LOOKING FOR A STATUS UPDATE ON WHAT THE TRANSIT REALIGN [INAUDIBLE] OR WHERE THAT'S AT [INAUDIBLE] . MS. WHITE. THANK YOU.
AND I WILL ASK MR. GREENCORN IF HE WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE.
THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN HIT WITH A I GUESS, STAFF VACANCIES AND OUR CURRENT OUR CURRENT SINGLE ENGINEER IS NOW ACTING MANAGER. SO IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGING YEAR FOR THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND GETTING THE TRANSIT RENEWAL GOING, SO TO SPEAK.
SO IT'S ON OUR PRIORITY LIST FOR 2024 AND WE'RE HOPING THAT BY AUGUST I CAN'T MAKE ANY PROMISES, BUT OUR GOAL IS AUGUST 2024, IN TIME FOR THAT SCHOOL YEAR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE UPDATE AND FOR ALL STAFF WORKING IN THAT DEPARTMENT.
YEAH, IT'S BEEN A VERY CHALLENGING [INAUDIBLE].
THANKS, MADAM CHAIR. JUST A GENERAL INQUIRY ABOUT AMBULANCE FEES.
I REMEMBER WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST YEAR AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY A SOURCE OF REVENUE GENERATION.
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AND I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME EXAMPLES PROVIDED LAST YEAR OF OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN THE NWT AND WHAT THEY CHARGE.AND IT SEEMED MY RECOLLECTION WAS THAT WE WERE PRETTY FAR OFF AND UNDER.
I THINK WE HAD A MOTION DIRECTING ADMINISTRATION TO UPDATE THE FEES AND CHARGES FOR AMBULANCE.
HOWEVER, PUBLIC SAFETY HAS BEEN A PRETTY BUSY YEAR.
MS. WHITE, IS THERE AN UPDATE ON WHETHER AMBULANCE FEES WILL BE UPDATED FOR 2024? THANK YOU. WHAT I CAN SAY IS PUBLIC SAFETY FEES WILL BE REVIEWED AS PART OF BUDGET 2024.
AND MAYBE MR. MACLEAN MIGHT WANT TO ADD SOME DETAILS ON THAT.
THANKS. YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
WE HAVE LOOKED AT COMPARATORS IN THE TERRITORY.
ADDITION TO THAT IS WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR FIRE DIVISION FEES.
OVERALL, THE FEES THAT WE WOULD CHARGE FOR RESCUE RESPONSES, FIRE RESPONSES, FALSE ALARM RESPONSES AS THOSE ARE ALSO LOWER. SO WE WOULD BE PREPARED TO PROVIDE A MORE WHOLESOME SUBMISSION ON OVERALL FIRE DIVISION FEES, JUST NOT AMBULANCE SERVICE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
SO THANKS FOR THAT WORK AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE WE WILL BRING THIS BIG BULK FORWARD ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 23RD AT 7 P.M.
AND THEN WE WILL ALSO HAVE PRESENTATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC AT THAT TIME.
AND OF COURSE THE PUBLIC HAS ANY FEEDBACK BETWEEN NOW AND THEN OR AFTER JUST EMAIL BUDGET AT YELLOWKNIFE.CA OR COUNCIL AT YELLOWKNIFE.CA AND THAT WILL BE INCLUDED OR FOR CONSIDERATION, OF COURSE.
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SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DID DURING THE LAST TERRITORIAL ELECTION AS WELL.AND SO IN THE GPC PACKAGE, THERE'S SOME RECOMMENDED THEMES AS WELL AS SOME RECOMMENDED QUESTIONS THAT WE MAY WANT TO ASK CANDIDATES.
THE PLAN WOULD BE TO SEND THESE OUT TO ALL YELLOWKNIFE CANDIDATES, ON WELL, I GUESS OCTOBER 21ST, BECAUSE THEY'RE DONE OCTOBER 20TH.
AND SO WE'LL KNOW WHO'S PUTTING THEIR NAME FORWARD.
AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS TO SAY, HEY, FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ON HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT UNDERFUNDING, CLEAN DRINKING WATER OR HOMELESSNESS ADDICTIONS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND LEGISLATION.
SO IN THE PACKAGE AGAIN IS SOME DRAFT QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OPENING IT UP TO COUNCIL IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MODIFY OR CHANGE.
COUNCILLOR FEQUET AND THEN COUNCILLOR HENDRIKSEN.
[INAUDIBLE] MADAM CHAIR. YEAH, I JUST I RECOGNIZE I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S WORK ON TRYING TO GET THESE NAIL DOWN THESE QUESTIONS, AND I RECOGNIZE THE BENEFIT OF HAVING SOME YES OR NO QUESTIONS STRICTLY TO GET COMMITMENTS ON THE RECORD.
I HAD A SUGGESTION THAT UNDER THE SOCIAL SUPPORT AREA OF QUESTIONS, THERE'S ALREADY A QUESTION REGARDING STREET OUTREACH AND THERE'S A QUESTION REGARDING THE HOMELESSNESS STRATEGY. AND I THOUGHT IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE'VE ALREADY WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN WORKED ON, WE COULD ALSO ASK THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS.
IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT MODEL OF STREET OUTREACH PROGRAMING WOULD BE BEST SUPPORT YELLOWKNIFE AND HOW SHOULD THAT PROGRAM BE FUNDED? MOSTLY IT'S THE FUNDING QUESTION, SO THAT I HOPE SOME OF THESE CANDIDATES WILL ACTUALLY DO THEIR HOMEWORK AND COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD
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WHAT WERE THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUNDING THIS PROGRAM? SO THAT TO COUNCILLOR ARDEN'S POINT EARLIER, WE DON'T HAVE TO FOOT THE BILL FOR SOMETHING THAT'S A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY.AND THE SECOND ADDITION, I GUESS, TO OUR QUESTIONS WOULD BE [INAUDIBLE] THE CITY EACH HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES TO SUPPORT RESIDENTS EXPERIENCING UNDER HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS IN YELLOWKNIFE. WHAT ARE YOUR PRIORITIES TO IMPLEMENT UNDER A WAY HOME A COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS IN [INAUDIBLE] WITH RESPECT TO YELLOWKNIFE SPECIFICALLY? SO THOSE WOULD BE THE TWO ADDITIONS I'M JUST SUGGESTING FOR CONSIDERATION TO MY COLLEAGUES, JUST TO MAKE SURE BOTH WE GET THE COMMITMENT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, BUT ALSO WE IF THESE ARE PRIORITIES FOR OUR CANDIDATES, FOR THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY, THAT WE ENSURE THESE ARE THEIR PRIORITIES AND THEY'VE DONE THEIR HOMEWORK.
THANK YOU. WOULD THEY? THE SECOND ONE.
WOULD YOU RECOMMENDATION BE THAT WE ACTUALLY REVISED NUMBER TWO AND JUST PUT THAT IN THERE.
AND WOULD THESE ACTUALLY JUST REPLACE QUESTIONS ONE AND TWO? THANKS FOR THE QUESTION, MADAM CHAIR.
I THINK THEY CAN JUST BE WORDSMITH INTO IT.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT YES OR NO QUESTION IN THERE.
IT COULD JUST BE INCORPORATED AND WORKED IN.
OKAY, FOLKS OKAY WITH ADDING MORE TO THOSE QUESTIONS.
IF YOU CAN WORDSMITH IT, MADAM MAYOR.
SO AGAIN, IF YOU CAN WORDSMITH IT, MADAM MAYOR, BY ALL MEANS.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON THIS ONE.
SO I'LL COME BACK TO THE OTHER POINT AFTER.
OKAY. I WILL TRY TO FIND, UM, WE HAD QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED CANDIDATES LAST TIME AND BECAUSE IT WAS IN 2019, THE ELECTION, NOT 2018, UM, AND I THINK WE HAD A BROAD, QUESTION THERE THAT I COULD ADD AS NUMBER FOUR, WHERE IT'S JUST KIND OF LIKE AND INSERT OPEN ENDED QUESTION WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING FURTHER ON HOW YOU WOULD ADDRESS MENTAL HEALTH, ADDICTIONS AND, AND HOMELESSNESS AND OR HOMELESSNESS? IF WE WANT TO BE BROAD AND THEY COULD CAPTURE ANY OF THAT.
OKAY. SO NOT REPLACING BUT ADDING JUST ONE BROAD QUESTION.
YEAH. AND JUST JUST TO FINISH ON THAT, I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE STRONG LIKE HERE'S WHERE THE CITY STANDS, HERE'S WHERE THE STANDS FROM, YOU KNOW, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE STRATEGIES.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO ANSWER THAT.
SO BUT THERE'S NUMBER FIVE IT JUST SAYS MORE.
AND I JUST IS ARE WE GOING FOR ARE THERE YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
IS THERE OTHER PIECES OF LEGISLATION YOU THINK AS A CANDIDATE YOU KNOW ARE IMPORTANT OR B UT I THINK JUST TO LEAVE IT HANGING OUT THERE IS MORE JUST I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT THERE. THANKS.
SO WE COULD SAY AND INCLUDING OTHER PIECES OF.
YEAH I GOT YOUR POINT ON ON THAT ONE.
AND I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU AGAIN.
I THINK TACTICALLY SPEAKING TOO IS WE JUST DON'T DROP IT ALL ONTO THEM ON THE 21ST OF OCTOBER.
LET'S GO WEEK BY WEEK DURING THE [INAUDIBLE] AND GIVE THEM EACH QUESTIONS PER WEEK OR EACH SECTION PER WEEK SO WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THEM SPECIFICS, BECAUSE I ALSO KNOW HOW THESE CANDIDATES USUALLY WORK AS A CAMPAIGN MANAGER, IF YOU THROW IT ALL AT ONCE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET NEAR AS QUALITY OF ANSWERS AS YOU WOULD IF YOU GIVE THEM SOME TIME IN BETWEEN . TO THE QUESTIONS OF LEGISLATION, I THINK THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT SECTION, ESPECIALLY BY THE FACT THAT BILL 66, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN MODERNIZING THE PROPERTY
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ASSESSMENT ACT, DID JUST GET PROROGUED.AND WE'RE DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING FORWARD.
SO THE ONE THING I WOULD ALSO THINK IS FOR QUESTION THREE, IS THERE ANY OTHER LEGISLATION THAT YOU WILL BE LOOKING TO REVIEW OR CREATE AND WHY? I THINK WE SHOULD JUST REMOVE THAT ENTIRELY.
AND I DON'T THINK I NEED TO CARE ABOUT WHAT ELSE THEY NEED TO [INAUDIBLE].
I'M DYING TO KNOW, THOUGH, IF THEY HAVE OTHER.
I DO THINK MISSING PERSON LEGISLATION IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
BUT I CAN STRIKE NUMBER THREE IF FOLKS ARE KIND OF INDIFFERENT ON HEARING FROM CANDIDATES ON WHETHER THEY HAVE A LEGISLATIVE BRAIN OR NOT. YEAH.
WE COULD KEEP IT AND WE CAN SEE IF THEY ALSO KEEP IT.
OKAY. ALSO, WE'RE NOT DROPPING IT ON THE 21ST.
SO IT'S IN OUR PUBLIC PACKAGE.
BUT WE CAN PROVIDE MORE OF A SPLIT FOR RESIDENTS ON AND THIS WEEK IS TALKING ABOUT SOCIAL ISSUES AND WE'VE HEARD FROM THESE CANDIDATES ON THAT SO.
I ALSO ADVISE ALL COUNCILLORS, GO TO THE FORUMS, TAKE THESE QUESTIONS AND ASK THEM AT THE FORUM SO WE CAN GET ACTUAL PUBLIC COMMITMENTS FROM THEM AND GET A DOUBLE PLAY INTO THE MEDIA. YEAH.
YEAH. UM, ANY OTHER BEFORE I GO TO ROUND TWO? OH COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
I WOULD JUST PROPOSE ADDING ONE MORE QUESTION TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SECTION, SOMETHING T HE WORDING I WROTE UP WAS ESSENTIALLY ALL [INAUDIBLE] WILDFIRE PROTECTION PLANS WILL BE FIVE YEARS OLD OR OLDER IN 20.
COMMIT TO FUNDING OR ADVOCATING FOR FUNDING UPDATES TO THESE PLANS FOR ANY COMMUNITY THAT REQUESTS.
OKAY. UH, JUST SO JUST TO REPEAT AND, UM, WAS TO ADD ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND ABOUT AND COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN CAN SEND ME THE QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK HE WAS READING IT ON, ON HIS COMPUTER.
BUT THE GIST OF IT WAS THAT, UM, THE FUNDING FOR COMMUNITY WILDFIRE PROTECTION PLANS AND ENSURING THAT THERE'S FUNDING EVERY FIVE YEARS TO UPDATE THEM.
THAT WAS THAT WAS CORRECT, COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN? YEAH. OKAY. SEEING NOBODY OPPOSED TO THAT.
WE WILL ADD THAT QUESTION UNDER EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
AND COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN, IF YOU CAN SEND ME YOUR WORDING THERE BECAUSE I THINK YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE, I'LL ADD THAT REGARDING COMMUNITY WILDFIRE PROTECTION PLANS. ANYTHING FURTHER FROM FIRST ROUND? SEEING NONE. COUNCILLOR FEQUET.
THANKS, MADAM CHAIR. YEAH, IT WAS JUST A SUGGESTION.
I RECOGNIZE AGAIN THE IMPORTANCE OF THE LEGISLATION SECTION, AND I KNOW NOT EVERYONE, EVEN THE CANDIDATES THEMSELVES MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH ALL THESE PIECES OF LEGISLATION AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, WHY THEY'RE REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE.
SO I JUST A SUGGESTION THAT WHEN WE FINALIZE THIS, IF WE COULD HAVE A LITTLE SUMMARY PARAGRAPH UNDER EACH OF THESE FOUR NUMBERED INITIATIVES THAT WE'RE HOPING THEY WILL THEY WILL WORK ON TO JUST EXPLAIN WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT AND WHY THESE ARE OUR FOUR THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, JUST SO THE CANDIDATES HAVE THEM AND THEY UNDERSTAND THEM AND ALSO JUST FOR THE PUBLIC CONSUMPTION.
SO THAT WOULD JUST BE AN EDIT, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST.
THANK YOU. I BELIEVE WE HAVE MOTIONS THROUGH NWT, AC RESOLUTIONS, SO IT SHOULD BE, YEAH, FAIRLY EASY TO PULL SOME YEAH. AND WHEREAS AND ADD A FOOTNOTE TO BE LIKE AND YOU CAN READ ALL THE OTHER RESOLUTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD OVER TIME.
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NCE EVERYBODY'S DECLARED, HOWEVER, CANDIDATES CAN GET A JUMP START.THE NEXT ITEM. BUT WE'RE JUST FIVE MINUTES AWAY FROM OUR 90 MINUTE BREAK.
SO BEFORE LAUNCHING IN AND THEN PAUSING, LET'S TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND COME BACK AT 1:35 P.M..
[7. A memorandum regarding Request for Proposal for the ‘After Action Assessment: 2023 North Slave Complex Wildfires’. ]
OKAY. WE WILL CALL OUR MEETING BACK TO ORDER.MS. WHITE, DID YOU HAVE ANY OPENING COMMENTS? THANK YOU. JUST A FEW.
THIS MEMO IS A FOLLOW UP TO THE SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2023 GPC MEETING AND ITEMS COMMITTEE NOTED TO ADMINISTRATION AT THAT MEETING HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE TERMS OF REFERENCE.
SO THE TERMS OF REFERENCE INCLUDE REFERENCE TO BOTH RESIDENT AND PUBLIC AND STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT.
DELIVERABLES ALSO INCLUDE AN INTERIM AND FINAL PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL, AND THE DELIVERABLE TIMEFRAME HAS BEEN SET TO JUNE 30TH, 2024. THANK YOU.
OPENING IT UP TO QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.
DISCUSSION. COUNCILLOR FEQUET.
MY FIRST QUESTION IS WAS THIS ABOUT THE BUDGET? I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THE ADMINISTRATION COULD PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INSIGHT AND ELABORATE ON THAT NUMBER AND WHETHER WE THINK THAT WILL ADDRESS KIND OF THE VERY COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW WITH ALL THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.
MS. WHITE. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS NUMBER CAME AS PART OF INFORMATION GATHERED FROM CANADIAN TASK FORCE TWO AND BASED ON BOTH FORT MCMURRAY AND THE TOWN OF AIRDRIE'S AFTER ACTION REPORT.
SO IT WAS, I BELIEVE THE GUESSTIMATE WAS 120 TO 150.
SO WE ACTUALLY WENT ON THE HIGH END AND RECOMMENDED THAT 150.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT GETS US WHERE WE NEED TO GO.
I RECOGNIZE IT MAY NOT BE SOMETHING RELATED TO THE RFP DEPENDING ON WHETHER THE CONSULTANT IS GOING TO BE EXPECTED TO PARTICIPATE OR EXECUTE THAT OR NOT. WHAT WAS THE ADMINISTRATION'S VISION FOR HOW THE REPORTING OF THIS WOULD WOULD TAKE PLACE IN BETWEEN COMMENCING THE INTERIM REPORT AND THE INTERIM REPORT AND THE FINAL FINDINGS? YEAH. AND THE DISCUSSION AT GPC WAS THAT ADMINISTRATION WOULD BE PROVIDING THE UPDATE TO COUNCIL REGARDING ANY CHANGES TO SCOPE, BUDGET OR SCHEDULING.
BUT MS. WHITE ANY DISCUSSION ON HOW THAT INFORMATION SHARES HAPPEN BETWEEN THE CONSULTANT AND ADMINISTRATION? SO I THINK WE'LL WAIT AND SEE ONCE WE HAVE RESPONSES ON THE RFP.
AND USUALLY WE GIVE QUARTERLY UPDATES AND I KNOW THE CITY MANAGER PROVIDES, I BELIEVE IT'S A JULY, JUNE, JULY UPDATE AND THEN AN END OF THE YEAR UPDATE AS WELL. SO DEPENDING ON THE TIMING OF THIS THAT MIGHT PROVIDE FOR UPDATES TO COUNCIL AND I BELIEVE IN THE TERMS OF REFERENCE, THE TWO UPDATES FROM OUR INTERIM REPORT AND FINAL REPORT FROM THE CONSULTANT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL AT THAT TIME.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
MY NEXT QUESTION IS SPECIFIC TO THE CRITERIA.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I NOTICED THE PAST PERFORMANCE THERE WAS 5% AWARDED FOR THAT, USING THIS TOPIC OF CRITERIA, H OW DO WE CONSIDER COMPANIES WE'VE NEVER WORKED WITH BEFORE? I RECOGNIZE IT'S MEANT TO BENEFIT COMPANIES WE'VE WORKED WITH THAT ARE REALLY GOOD BUT JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE OR FIND OUT HOW WE WOULD CONSIDER NEW COMPANIES OR WHETHER THEY WOULD OBVIOUSLY GET JUST A ZERO.
IT ALSO RECOGNIZES COMPANIES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DELIVER AND THEY WOULD ALSO GET A ZERO.
MS. WHITE. THAT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY GREAT QUESTION.
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THANK YOU FOR ASKING.AND WHAT HAPPENS USUALLY WITH PROPOSALS THAT COME IN IS WE ALSO THERE'S A SECTION WHERE THEY FILL IN KIND OF LIKE A REFERENCE FOR THAT CONSULTANT AND THEY SAY, I'VE DONE THE AFTER ACTION REPORT FOR X COMMUNITY AND CONTACT INFORMATION AND IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE WE FOLLOW UP.
HOW IS THEIR TIMING, HOW IS THEIR BUDGET, HOW IS ALL OF THE PERFORMANCE ITEMS THAT WERE IN THOSE PLANS, HOW WERE THEY DELIVERED ON? AND WE SPEAK TO THOSE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WHO ARE IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS AND THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD GET SOME DETERMINATION.
THANK YOU. THAT MAKES MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
I DIDN'T I WASN'T AWARE THAT THERE WAS A REFERENCE SECTION, SO THAT'S AWESOME.
UM, SECOND LAST QUESTION REGARDING JUST THE DELIVERABLE LETTER C, THE INTERIM PRESENTATION, I'M JUST NOTING THAT THE TIME FRAME SCHEDULE TALKS ABOUT JUNE 30TH AS THE DELIVERABLES MUST BE DONE BY THEN.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF IT WOULD BE ADVISABLE TO INCLUDE EITHER A DATE MADAM MAYOR MENTIONED MAY 1ST AS THE BEGINNING OF FIRE SEASON IN THAT PARTICULAR DELIVERABLE C, OR AT LEAST DESCRIBING THE INTENT WHICH WAS TO INFORM NEXT YEAR'S FIRE SEASON. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T KNOW HOW THIS PROCESS IS GOING TO GO.
WE DO KNOW WHEN IT WILL BE FINISHED.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF WE CAN WHAT THE SUGGESTION WOULD BE ABOUT HOW TO REFINE THAT.
SO THAT'S VERY CLEAR IN THE RFP.
THE INTERIM PRESENTATION, SO SPECIFYING THAT THE INTERIM PRESENTATION HAS TO BE DONE BY.
MARCH OR APRIL? POSSIBLY DO SOME FLEXIBILITY SINCE IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON COUNCIL.
SO I JUST CAUTION TO, TO NOT GET TOO PRESCRIPTIVE ON THE INTERIM PRESENTATION, BUT A MARCH OR APRIL MIGHT BE SOMETHING. MS. WHITE ANY RECOMMENDATION FROM ADMINISTRATION? THANK YOU. NO I BELIEVE INTERIM IN THIS SPECIFIC CASE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THAT DEADLINE WOULD HOPEFULLY PEOPLE LOGICALLY CONCLUDE THAT THAT IS THE HALFWAY POINT.
AND AGAIN I AGREE THAT PUTTING A SET DATE MAY BE A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM AS WELL AS FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE THAT PUBLIC CONVERSATION AND HOPEFULLY NOT PUTTING A DATE WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT EITHER DOESN'T HAPPEN DURING MARCH BREAK OR SOME OTHER BECAUSE I BELIEVE EASTER IS RIGHT AFTER THAT AS WELL.
SO IT'D BE MARCH BREAK, MARCH BREAK AND THEN LONG WEEKEND.
SO JUST TO BE AWARE OF THOSE DATES.
THANKS FOR THAT RESPONSE. AND YEAH, AS LONG AS WE'RE ALL CLEAR THAT THAT INTERIM YEAH IS FOR THAT SOLE PURPOSE OF MAKING SURE ANY TIME SENSITIVE RECOMMENDATIONS TO INFORM NEXT YEAR'S FIRE SEASON ARE BROUGHT FORWARD.
MY LAST QUESTION IS JUST ON THE TOPIC OF ENGAGEMENT.
I KNOW IT'S IDENTIFIED OR ARTICULATED UNDER ITEM 11 IN THE SCOPE OF WORK.
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS IT WAS SPLIT.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I GUESS I WOULD JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM OR ENSURE BECAUSE I THINK THIS WAS THE MAIN FOCUS OF OUR CONVERSATION TWO WEEKS AGO, IS IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE COULD ADD OR SHOULD ADD INTO THIS ITEM TO ENSURE THAT ALL OF THE RELEVANT STAKEHOLDER GROUPS WILL BE INTERVIEWED? I AGREE.
BUT I THINK I JUST WANT EXTRA ASSURANCE OR OR EVEN AN EDIT.
EITHER WAY IS FINE WITH ME THAT ALL OF THE RELEVANT STAKEHOLDER GROUPS, CITY AND GNWT STAFF, NGOS, VOLUNTEERS ARE ALL INCLUDED, YOU KNOW, AND OUR PARTNERS LIKE [INAUDIBLE] AND ALBERTA HEALTH AND ALL THE FOLKS WHO WERE CRITICAL AND PART OF PART OF THIS EXPERIENCE WITH US ACTUALLY GET THE ELEVATED LEVEL OF ATTENTION AND OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THEIR PERSPECTIVE.
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SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.I THINK 11 IS SEPARATE FROM WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 11 IS ABOUT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND THE PUBLIC FORUM AND ONLINE SURVEYS VERSUS UNDER THREE SCOPE OF WORK IS WILL INCLUDE ENGAGEMENT WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND RESIDENTS AS APPROPRIATE, WHICH IS ITEMS 1 TO 21.
UM, SO BY THE GNWT WOULD BE INVOLVED IN A LOT OF THESE POINTS.
SO POINT 11, I THINK WE'RE WATERING DOWN BECAUSE IT WAS ABOUT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, HAVING LIKE A SPECIFIC PUBLIC MEETING AND OR ONLINE SURVEY FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T ATTEND.
BUT MS. WHITE IF YOU'D LIKE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THAT ONE.
SURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.
AND I THINK AN ADDITIONAL PIECE OF INFORMATION IS YES, THAT ITEM NUMBER THREE WOULD BE FOR PUBLIC AND STAKEHOLDERS AND I KNOW IT SAYS AS APPLICABLE, BUT EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS UNDERNEATH THAT SUBHEADING WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDER AND IT WOULD BE ON THE CONSULTANT TO ENSURE THAT THEY AT MINIMUM REACH OUT TO THEM. WE CAN'T MAKE STAKEHOLDERS PARTICIPATE, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY REACH OUT.
SO STAKEHOLDERS WHO MAYBE WOULD BE INVOLVED UNDER NUMBER SIX, WHICH WOULD DEFINITELY BE THE GNWT WOULD BE VERY DIFFERENT THAN STAKEHOLDERS, POTENTIALLY UNDER NUMBER EIGHT, AND IT WOULD BE THE CONSULTANT AND THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AS THE QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL TO IDENTIFY WHO IN EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES SHOULD BE CONTACTED.
AND I WOULD ALSO ADD MULTIPLE STAKEHOLDERS MAY BE CONTACTED FOR MULTIPLE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED HERE.
SO IT'S NOT JUST WE'RE ONLY SPEAKING TO STAKEHOLDER X ON ITEM ONE.
THERE COULD BE MULTIPLE ITEMS THAT THE CONSULTANT WILL BE IN CONTACT WITH THEM ON.
I HOPE THAT PROVIDED SOME CLARITY.
IT DOES THAT WAS A GREAT EXPLANATION.
AND THERE WILL BE MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE THE RELEVANT FOLKS TO PARTICIPATE.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
THANK YOU. AND EVERYBODY THAT'S BEEN REACHING OUT TO ME SO FAR, I'M SAYING, YOU KNOW, JOT DOWN ALL YOUR COMMENTS, WHETHER IT'S THE GNWT TERRITORIAL AGRICULTURE ASSOCIATION OR COMPANY X WHO WAS HERE FOR THE RESPONSE IS LIKE, YEP, JOT IT DOWN AND THEN YOU CAN ENGAGE WITH THE CONSULTANTS.
AND AS MS. WHITE WAS SAYING, THERE'S THE MINIMUM LIST OF STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE TO THE CONSULTANTS.
BUT TO USE THE ARTS AND CULTURE MASTER PLAN, WE GIVE A LIST OF STAKEHOLDERS TO THE CONSULTANTS AND THEN DURING THEIR ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, OTHER NAMES MAY POP UP AND THEN THEY'LL BE LIKE, OH, I SHOULD REACH OUT TO THIS PERSON AS WELL.
SO THERE'S THAT MINIMUM, BUT IT GETS EXPANDED THROUGH ENGAGEMENT.
COUNCILLOR HENDRIKSEN. THANKS MAYOR ALTY.
FIRST, I JUST WANT TO THANK ADMIN FOR INCLUDING THE TERMS IN THE RFP.
I KNOW ITS NOT ORDINARY TO INCLUDE AN RFP IN OUR DOCUMENTS, BUT THIS WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY SITUATION AND I THINK ITS PARDON ME, EXTRAORDINARY THAT WE HAVE THE CHANCE TO, TO HAVE THE CHANCE TO REVIEW THIS.
SO THIS IS NOT A NEW NORM, ITS JUST I THINK ITS ONE WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE WAS WAS NEEDED.
SO I JUST REALLY WANT TO THANK ADMIN FOR THAT.
JUST NUTS AND BOLTS BUDGETING QUESTION IS IT TRUE MY UNDERSTANDING, IS IT CORRECT, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ALL OF THE FUNDS FOR THIS WILL COME OUT OF THE 2023 BUDGET OR CONSIDERING MOST OF THIS WORK WILL ACTUALLY BE DONE IN 2024? OR IS IT SORT OF GOING TO BE PARCELED OUT? AND HOW WILL THAT IMPACT THE 2024 BUDGET? THANKS. MS. WHITE.
THANK YOU. I BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD MOSTLY BE OUT OF THE 2024.
AND I DON'T KNOW, MR. PANDOO, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.
NO. OKAY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.
OH, SORRY. NO, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THANKS FOR THAT CLARITY.
AND JUST ONE OTHER THING WHEN IT COMES TO THE STAKEHOLDER PARTICIPATION, JUST BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE THAT INTERIM REPORT PIECE, THAT'S GOING TO BE A CHANCE FOR US TO CHECK AND SEE ARE THERE STAKEHOLDERS WHO, YOU KNOW, WHO IS THE CONSULTANT SPOKEN TO UP TO THIS DATE? WHO DO WE KNOW MAYBE THAT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED THAT HASN'T HAD THE CHANCE.
SO THAT'LL BE OUR CHANCE TO GUT CHECK THINGS AS WELL.
AND ON THAT POINT, TOO, I KNOW WHENEVER WE DO ENGAGEMENTS, PEOPLE ALSO REACH OUT AND ASK, HOW CAN I PARTICIPATE? AND SO HAVING THAT INTERIM WILL AGAIN BE THAT MORE PUBLIC OPPORTUNITY.
I'M SURE THEY'LL HEAR ABOUT IT IN THE NEWS AND BE LIKE, OH, I FORGOT TO PARTICIPATE OR WHATEVER.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE?
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COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.THANKS TO STAFF FOR THE WORK ON THIS.
YEAH, IF IT'S AT ALL POSSIBLE IF STAFF HAVE ANY CAPACITY, I WOULD ASK OR SAY THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY VALUABLE TO PROVIDE LIKE A SOCIAL MEDIA POST OR POST TO SORT OF EXPLAINING THIS IS THE TIME FRAME, TIME FRAME OF THE ASSESSMENT.
THIS IS HOW STAKEHOLDERS WILL BE ENGAGED, SORT OF HOW MAYOR JUST DESCRIBED IT.
THERE'S A BASE LIST AND THEN PEOPLE SORT OF GET ADDED AS THEY CONSULT TO SOME OF THAT INFO JUST SO THE PUBLIC CAN ACCESS IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER AND HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE WHOLE THING WORKS.
AND JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T WATCH GPC EVERY WEEK, THANKS.
[INAUDIBLE] YEAH, AND I BELIEVE WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.
IF I THINK OF THE AQUATIC CENTRE OR THE COMMUNITY PLAN OR ZONING BYLAW WHERE IT'S LIKE KIND OF ANNOUNCING WHO THE SUCCESSFUL CANDIDATE WAS AND STAY TUNED FOR FOR THE NEXT STEPS. AND SO I SEE MS. WHITE JOTTING THAT DOWN.
AND I'M SURE MS. THISTLE IS LISTENING, TOO.
ANYTHING FURTHER? SEEING NONE.
SO TONIGHT, THE MOTION ON THE AGENDA IS NUMBER 12.
SO THAT'S DIRECTING COUNCIL TO THE COUNCIL DIRECTS ADMINISTRATION TO SEEK EXTERNAL EXPERTISE TO COMPLETE AN AFTER ACTION ASSESSMENT, THE 2023 NORTH SLAVE COMPLEX WILDFIRES EMERGENCY RESPONSE.
SO THIS WILL BE COMING FORWARD TONIGHT NUMBER 12, IT'S DIRECTING ADMINISTRATION, BUT NOW COUNCIL KNOWS WHAT THE RFP LOOKS LIKE. SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE REACHED THE END OF OUR AGENDA.
ANYBODY OPPOSED? SEEING NONE. WE WILL SEE EVERYBODY TONIGHT AT 7 P.M..
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