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WE WILL CALL OUR COUNCIL MEETING FOR TUESDAY, APRIL 11TH, 2023 TO ORDER.
THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE ACKNOWLEDGES THAT WE ARE LOCATED IN CHIEF DRYGEESE TERRITORY.
FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL, IT HAS BEEN THE TRADITIONAL LAND OF THE YELLOWKNIVES DENE FIRST NATION.
WE RESPECT THE HISTORIES, LANGUAGES AND CULTURES OF ALL OTHER INDIGENOUS PEOPLES, INCLUDING THE NORTH SLAVE METIS AND ALL FIRST NATIONS, METIS AND INUIT, WHOSE PRESENCE CONTINUES TO ENRICH OUR VIBRANT COMMUNITY.
THERE WERE NO AWARD CEREMONIES OR PRESENTATIONS FOR THE AGENDA.
ADOPTION OF MINUTES FOR PREVIOUS MEETINGS.
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COUNCIL. SORRY.MINUTES OF COUNCIL FOR THE SPECIAL MEETING OF MONDAY, MARCH 27TH, 2023 AS PRESENTED FOR ADOPTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
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I MOVE THAT THE MINUTES OF COUNCIL FOR THE REGULAR MEETING OF MONDAY, MARCH 27TH, 2023 BE PRESENTED FOR ADOPTION.SECONDER. COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.
ALL IN FAVOR? AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
DISCLOSURE OF PECUNIARY INTEREST AND THE GENERAL NATURE THEREOF.
DOES ANY MEMBER HAVE PECUNIARY INTEREST? SEEING NONE.
THERE WERE NO CORRESPONDENTS, NOR WERE THERE ANY PETITIONS FOR THE AGENDA.
THERE WERE NO STATUTORY PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE AGENDA.
THERE WERE NO DELEGATIONS PERTAINING TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
THERE WERE NO STATEMENTS FOR THE AGENDA.
ARE THERE ANY MEMBER STATEMENTS FROM THE FLOOR?
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INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS.COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN, WILL YOU INTRODUCE THE FOLLOWING REPORTS FOR GOVERNANCE AND PRIORITIES COMMITTEE REPORT FOR MARCH 27TH 2023.
THANK YOU. I MOVE THAT COUNCIL ADOPT THE ACCESS FOR ALL POLICY.
DO I HAVE A SECONDER? COUNCILLOR MCGURK. ALL IN FAVOR? OH. OH.
DO I HAVE A SECONDER? THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR COCHRANE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD? YEAH, I DO.
THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS POLICY AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE IT COME FORWARD.
I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THE POLICY AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
I BELIEVE THIS FOR THREE REASONS.
I BELIEVE WE SHOULD RAISE THE QUALIFYING INCOME SO THAT FAMILIES THAT ARE STRUGGLING NOW AND WHO WILL MEET THE INCOME CUTOFF CAN ACCESS FACILITIES TODAY NOT FOR CHRISTMAS 2024 WHEN THE MEASURE IS UPDATED.
SECOND, SOME OF THE FACILITIES AND SERVICES SUCH AS THE FIELD HOUSE AND TRANSIT, WHICH ARE INCLUDED IN ACCESS FOR ALL, ARE UNDERUTILIZED AND WILL BE PAID FOR REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY RESIDENTS USE ACCESS FOR ALL.
DURING BUDGET DELIBERATIONS, WE DISCUSSED TRYING TO GET MORE USE OUT OF THE FIELD HOUSE.
EXPANDING ACCESS FOR ALL IS A GREAT WAY TO DO THIS.
I'VE NEVER SEEN A YELLOWKNIFE BUS NEAR CAPACITY.
IN FACT, EVERY TIME I'VE TAKEN ONE, I'M EITHER THE ONLY PERSON ON IT OR ONE OF THE FEW.
THESE BUSSES ARE DRIVING AROUND RELATIVELY EMPTY, SO WHY NOT GIVE PEOPLE THE OPTION TO MAKE MORE SUSTAINABLE TRANSPORTATION CHOICES? I BELIEVE WE WILL NOT BE FOREGOING WELL SORRY, I BELIEVE WE WILL BE FOREGOING A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF REVENUE AND GETTING BETTER UTILIZATION OUT OF OUR FACILITIES AND SERVICES THAT WE ARE PAYING FOR ANYWAY BY EXPANDING ACCESS FOR ALL.
LASTLY, IF WE AS A CITY ARE TRULY TO PROMOTE THE PARTICIPATION OF ALL YELLOWKNIFE RESIDENTS IN RECREATION AND TRANSIT SERVICES, REGARDLESS OF THEIR PERSONAL FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS, I BELIEVE WE MUST EXPAND ACCESS FOR ALL.
WE DO NOT NEED TO REINVENT THE WHEEL HERE.
WE CAN USE THE LOW INCOME MEASURE, WHICH IS 50% OF MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME AFTER TAXES.
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ULTIMATELY, THIS PROGRAM IS TRYING TO ACHIEVE A BALANCE.WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL YELLOWKNIFERS CAN ACCESS THE CITY'S RECREATION AND TRANSIT SERVICES REGARDLESS OF THEIR FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS, WHILE ENSURING THAT THOSE WHO CAN REASONABLY AFFORD TO PAY FOR THESE SERVICES DO SO.
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE A PERFECT BALANCE IN THIS REGARD.
HOWEVER, I BELIEVE IT IS OUR JOB AS COUNCILLORS TO LOOK AT THE DATA AND MAKE A JUDGMENT AS TO WHETHER WE ARE IN THE BALLPARK OF THIS BALANCE, AND THEREFORE, IF THE POLICY GOALS ARE BEING MET, THE DATA SHOWS THAT FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR IN YELLOWKNIFE WHO IS PAYING ROUGHLY 71% OF THEIR INCOME JUST TO SHELTER AND FEED THEMSELVES, THIS FAMILY IS MAKING TOO MUCH MONEY TO QUALIFY FOR ACCESS FOR ALL AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
THEREFORE, I WOULD SUPPORT ADMINISTRATION COMING FORWARD WITH OPTIONS TO RAISE THE QUALIFYING INCOME AS I BELIEVE THIS IS NECESSARY IN ORDER TO TRULY ACHIEVE THE STATED GOALS OF THE PROGRAM.
THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR OPENING IT UP TO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCILLORS.
SEEING--OH, COUNCILLOR FEQUET.
YEAH, I SUPPORT WHAT COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN SAID FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT HE STATED, AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD ASK IS THAT WHEN IT GOES BACK TO GPC THAT WE CHANGE THE DURATION OF THE PROGRAM FOR THE RENEWAL.
I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW IT'S A YEAR AND ADMINISTRATION IS PROPOSING IT GOES UP TO TWO YEARS.
I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE IT BE THREE YEARS AT A MINIMUM.
THE CONSENSUS IS NOT VERY FAST.
I WISH IT WAS A BETTER MESSAGE, BUT I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT SOURCE YET, BUT FOR THAT REASON, AND FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT TOM JUST REITERATED, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT IT ALSO BE A MINIMUM OF THREE YEARS FOR THE PROGRAM RENEWAL BECAUSE IT SAVES US STAFF AT THE CITY HERE TIME AND EFFORT ADMINISTERING THE PROGRAM, BUT IT ALSO REDUCES THE BARRIER FOR PEOPLE ACCESSING THE PROGRAM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILLOR MCGURK.
JUST THAT I'M IN SUPPORT OF BOTH COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN AND COUNCILLOR FEQUET'S SUGGESTIONS.
WITH THAT ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION AS AMENDED, AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
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COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN.THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT COUNCIL SUPPORT THE GOVERNMENT OF THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES GNWT BID TO HOST THE 2026 ARCTIC WINTER GAMES IN YELLOWKNIFE BY ONE ALLOCATING STAFF RESOURCES IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY ON THE BID COMMITTEE.
TWO PROVIDING A LETTER OF SUPPORT INDICATING THAT THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE WILL PROVIDE THE REQUIRED CITY FACILITIES TO THE GAMES AT NO COST, AND THREE, ALLOCATING STAFF RESOURCES IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY ON THE HOST COMMITTEE SHOULD THE GNWT BE SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR BID TO HOST THE GAMES.
DO I HAVE A SECONDER? COUNCILLOR PAYNE.
ALL IN FAVOR? OH, SORRY. OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS.
COUNCILLOR FEQUET. THANKS, MADAM CHAIR.
JUST FIRST A QUESTION FOR ADMINISTRATION AND THEN A COMMENT.
JUST CURIOUS, HAVE WE, SINCE OUR EITHER THE INITIAL PRESENTATION AND OUR FOLLOW UP REQUESTING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND OR THE GPC MEETING WHERE COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED THIS, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE TO OR FROM MACA? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY THEY HEARD THIS MOTION OR AT LEAST A WEEK AGO, AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S BEEN ANY LAST DITCH EFFORTS AT COMMUNICATION TO TRY AND COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT GOVERNANCE ARRANGEMENT, OR MAYBE THE GNWT IS WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT IN-KIND AND FUNDRAISING MONEY SHOULD THE HOST SOCIETY NOT ACHIEVE ITS TARGETS IN THAT RESPECT.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S BEEN ANY LAST DITCH EFFORTS OR COMMUNICATION ON THAT FRONT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.
IN MEETINGS WITH MACA OFFICIALS ON OTHER SUBJECTS, WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS IN PASSING AND THEY ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FORMAL MOTION BY COUNCIL.
SO NOTHING HAS COME FORWARD FROM THEM TO SUGGEST A DIFFERENT APPROACH OR A DIFFERENT TACK.
THEY ARE LOOKING AT WHAT COUNCIL'S DECISION WILL BE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
MAYBE I WOULD JUST OFFER ONE ONE COMMENT THEN.
I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE MOTION FOR THE REASONS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED ABOUT THE CITY'S CAPACITY AT THIS POINT IN TIME AND ABILITY TO REALLY LEAD THIS INITIATIVE, BUT I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE MY HOPE THAT SOMEONE OUT THERE MIGHT HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW THE GNWT AND THE CITY CAN WORK TOGETHER
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SO THAT THE CITY ISN'T AT RISK OR THE TAXPAYERS AREN'T AT RISK, AND THE CITY'S RESOURCES AREN'T AT RISK.THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN.
THANK YOU. NOT A QUESTION, JUST A COMMENT, AND I MENTIONED THIS DURING THE GPC MEETING WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS, AND I JUST REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IT FOR ADMINISTRATION THAT REALLY DO FOCUS IN AND MAKE SURE THAT IF AND WHEN THIS PROCEEDS, THAT WE FOCUS IN ON THE ADVISORY CAPACITY THAT COUNCIL IS APPROVING AND THAT IF ANYTHING STARTS TO STRAY FROM THAT ADVISORY CAPACITY, WE ARE INFORMED SO THAT WE CAN STAY ON TOP OF AS COUNCILLOR FEQUET WAS JUST SAYING, STAY ON TOP OF THE FINANCES AND STAY ON TOP OF THE RESOURCES AS WE HAVE SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE ARE COMMITTING TO AS COUNCIL.
ANYTHING FURTHER? SEEING NONE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, AND THAT'S CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
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MOVING FORWARD, A MEMORANDUM REGARDING WHETHER TO APPOINT MEMBERS TO SERVE ON THE ACCESSIBILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPOINT RILEY OLDFORD, CORNELIUS VAN DYKE, DENISE MCKEE AND LINDA [INAUDIBLE] TO SERVE ON THE ACCESSIBILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR A TWO YEAR TERM COMMENCING APRIL 12TH, 2023, AND ENDING APRIL 11TH, 2025.
DO I HAVE A SECONDER? COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN.
ALL IN FAVOR, AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
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COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN.THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPOINT JASON BRINSON AS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM A NON-GOVERNMENT HEALTH ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING HOSPITALS AND OTHER PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS AND ORGANIZATIONS FOCUSED ON MENTAL HEALTH AND ADDICTIONS TO SERVE ON THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD ON HOMELESSNESS FOR A TWO YEAR TERM COMMENCING APRIL 12TH, 2023, AND ENDING APRIL 11TH, 2025.
DO I HAVE A SECONDER? COUNCILLOR FEQUET.
OPEN TO ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
ALL IN FAVOR? AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
THERE WERE NO BYLAWS FOR THE AGENDA.
THERE WERE NO DEFERRED BUSINESS AND THERE ARE NO TABLED ITEMS FOR THE AGENDA.
IS THERE ANY DEFERRED BUSINESS OR ANY OTHER SORRY, IS THERE ANY DEFERRED BUSINESS OR ARE THERE ANY TABLED ITEMS FROM THE FLOOR? THERE WAS NO OLD BUSINESS FOR THE AGENDA.
IS THERE ANY OLD BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR? THERE WERE [MUMBLING] [CHUCKLING] TONGUE TIED TONIGHT.
THERE WERE NO NOTICES OF MOTION FOR THE AGENDA.
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ARE THERE ANY NOTICES OF MOTION FROM THE FLOOR? COUNCILLOR COCHRANE.I SO MOVE THAT THE ACCESSIBILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S TERMS OF REFERENCE BE REFERRED TO THE NEXT GOVERNANCE AND PRIORITIES COMMITTEE, APRIL 17TH, 2023 FOR DISCUSSIONS ON CHANGES, AMENDMENTS AND OVERALL DIRECTION OF SAID ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A SECONDER? COUNCILLOR FEQUET, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER STATEMENTS OR DO YOU WANT TO BROADEN THAT? SURE. AFTER HAVING THE DISCUSSIONS TODAY AND GOING THROUGH THE TERMS OF REFERENCES, I, YOU KNOW, WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO INTRODUCE A MOTION HERE TO MAKE A BUNCH OF CHANGES TO SECTION SIX, EIGHT, TEN, 11, 12 AND 41, BUT AFTER HAVING DISCUSSION WITH ADMINISTRATION, I THINK WE ARE BETTER SET TO BE ABLE TO SEND THIS OVER TO GPC WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A DISCUSSION WHERE WE CAN CONSIDER ALL RELEVANT INFORMATION BEFORE MAKING A DETERMINATION SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT THE INTENDED ROLE OF THE ACCESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, HOW COUNCIL SETS ITS HIGH LEVEL DIRECTION.
THE APPROACH OF ESTABLISHING COMMITTEES ON COUNCIL.
THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? COUNCILLOR FEQUET. THANKS, MADAM CHAIR.
THIS TERM STARTED IN NOVEMBER ABOUT HOW WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT HOW WE DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY, TO ENGAGE THE PUBLIC, TO OFFER OPPORTUNITIES, TO TALK ABOUT TOPICS THAT PEOPLE REALLY CARE ABOUT AND REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT AND HAVE A LOT OF EXPERTISE ABOUT RECOGNIZING.
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THIS IS A COMMITTEE IN PARTICULAR THAT IS VERY ABOUT A VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC BUT HAS NOT YET BEEN STRUCK.ARE THERE OTHER WAYS THAT WE COULD ACHIEVE GAINING INPUT AND EXPERTISE ON THIS TOPIC? WE TALKED ABOUT ROUND TABLES, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVING A DIFFERENT TOPIC EVERY MONTH AND HAVING A LUNCHEON EVENING MEETING AND THAT WAY IT'S NOT JUST LIMITED TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, IT'S OPEN TO ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THAT TOPIC, AND SO THIS WE DIDN'T GET TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER DURING OUR RECENT STRATEGIC PLANNING, BUT I HOPE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE THE DISCUSSION NEXT MONDAY CAN KICK US OFF IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, AND MAYBE THIS IS THE FIRST, BECAUSE ARGUABLY ACCESSIBILITY IS REALLY THE START.
IF PEOPLE DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY CAN ACCESS INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY THE FIRST BARRIER TO EVEN GETTING OUR CITIZENS ENGAGED AND ALLOWING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ENGAGED SHOULD THEY WANT TO BE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SUPPORT COUNCILLOR COCHRANE'S MOTION, BUT ALSO JUST REITERATE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I'M VERY EAGER TO TALK ABOUT WITH THIS TEAM AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY THAN MAYBE WE HAVE IN THE PAST.
ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD? MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
JUST ONE ADMINISTRATIVE POINT.
SO BRINGING THIS ON TO THE APRIL 17TH GPC MIGHT BE A CHALLENGE.
WITH THE SUPPORT OF COUNCIL, WE'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO BRING THIS FORWARD AT AN UPCOMING GPC SOON.
I'M OKAY WITH MENDING THAT PART OF THE MOTION TO HAVE IT AS AN UPCOMING GPC, THOUGH, OF COURSE, REITERATING THE QUICKER THE BETTER AS THIS POLICY IS ALL CURRENTLY OR THE TERMS OF REFERENCE IS CURRENTLY WITHIN EVERYBODY'S MIND HERE.
ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD? SEEING NONE.
ALL IN FAVOR, AND THAT MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
I'D JUST LIKE TO MOVE A MOTION FROM THE FLOOR AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, AS AN EXAMPLE, GETTING THEM A WEEK EARLIER THAN WE CURRENTLY DO.
SO MOVING IT FROM THREE DAYS TO TEN DAYS, BOTH IN THE INTEREST OF ALLOWING COUNCIL TIME TO REFLECT, SEEK INPUT, ASK QUESTIONS AND ALSO ALLOW THE PUBLIC TIME TO READ OUR AGENDAS AND DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH COUNCIL TO EMAILS OR ATTEND MEETINGS.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECONDER FOR THIS MOTION? COUNCILLOR COCHRANE.
JUST ONE VARIATION PERHAPS RATHER THAN JUST CONSIDER, BUT ACTUALLY BRING MAYBE 2 TO 3 OPTIONS FROM THE CURRENT STATUS QUO AND I KNOW THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE GETTING AT, COUNCILLOR FEQUET, BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR, THAT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHEN THAT COMES BACK, WE DON'T JUST HAVE A GENERAL CONVERSATION, BUT THAT THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT OPTIONS ABOUT WHAT WILL WORK PRACTICALLY FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE PERSPECTIVE, BUT WHAT WOULD WORK? ALSO, KNOWING HOW COUNCIL HAS TALKED ABOUT SINCE THE ELECTION LAST YEAR, ABOUT HOW WE DO WANT THAT TIME TO BE ABLE TO [INAUDIBLE] ISSUES AND REALLY UNDERSTAND THEM MORE SO THAN JUST OVER A WEEKEND.
SO REALLY, YOU KNOW, HAVING THOSE 2 TO 3 OPTIONS THAT COUNCIL CAN CHEW ON AND CONSIDER AND BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION ON HOW WE OPERATE OURSELVES AS COUNCIL TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS FOR THE CITY.
YEAH I'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF SEEING SOME OPTIONS AS WELL.
IT CAN BE VERY CHALLENGING TO HAVE JUST A COUPLE DAYS.
IT CAN REALLY CONSTRAIN YOU IN TERMS OF WHO YOU CAN TALK TO AND WHAT INPUT YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE.
SO IT'D BE GREAT TO SEE SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND HEAR ADMINISTRATION'S THOUGHTS ON THAT AS WELL.
I THINK WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF HOW MUCH EXTRA WORK WE'RE PUTTING ON ADMINISTRATION.
WE'VE GOT STAFF SHORTAGES EVERYWHERE, SO IF WE'RE EXPECTING THIS.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG COUNCIL'S BEEN GETTING THEIR DOCUMENTATION.
AT THE SAME TIME, MAYBE 30 YEARS, AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN GOOD.
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I THINK IT'S NOT FAIR TO ADMINISTRATION AND I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION.ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD? COUNCILLOR MCGURK.
I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE COUNCILLOR PAYNE'S POINT.
I DO THINK THAT IT'S AS SOMEONE WHO'S HAD TO PREPARE MEETING AGENDAS, IT IS DIFFICULT TO GET A THREE DAY OR BEYOND A THREE DAY TURNAROUND, BUT I DO THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO CONSIDER OPTIONS.
IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO ACCESS THIS STUFF FURTHER.
JUST SORT OF ON THE SAME VEIN, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNCILLOR PAYNE IS SAYING, BUT I DO IN MY MIND THIS ACTUALLY WILL IN THE LONG RUN, REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF WORK FOR ADMINISTRATION, AND AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS HAD BEEN ON BOARDS BEFORE, PREPARING DOCUMENTS FOR BOARDS, I THINK IN THE LONG RUN THIS CAN ACTUALLY HELP REDUCE THE ADMINISTRATIVE WORK BECAUSE THE IDEA BEING THE IDEA FOR ME BEHIND THIS AND THIS IS WHAT I HOPE COMES IN WITH THE OPTIONS IS THAT BY HAVING THE TIME TO REFLECT AS COUNCIL WE'RE NOT ENDING UP IN A SITUATION LIKE WE DID TODAY WHERE AN ISSUE CAME TO GPC.
NOW WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO BRING AN ISSUE BACK TO GPC AND A SIMILAR THING HAPPENED WITH THE ARCTIC WINTER GAMES MOTION.
IT WAS SORT OF A COME TO GPC WE WEREN'T ABLE TO ACTUALLY HAVE A MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION WITH THE GNWT AND MACA FROM A COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE, I KNOW IT WAS GOING ON FROM AN ADMINISTRATION TO ADMINISTRATIVE PERSPECTIVE, BUT I THINK TO MY MIND, THAT'S THE WHOLE GOAL IS.
SO WHILE I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNCILLOR PAYNE IS SAYING, MY MY THOUGHT BEHIND THIS IS NOT THAT THIS IS THE GOAL TO ADD MORE WORK AND ADD MORE, YOU KNOW, BRICKS ON THE BUILDING, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY TO MAKE THE WORK MORE EFFICIENT AND DECISIONS OF COUNCIL THEN MORE FINAL BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THE CHANCE TO ACTUALLY GET INTO THEM AND NOT WONDER AFTER THE FACT DID WE MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS AND FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO GUT CHECK OURSELF LATER.
I GUESS A QUESTION FOR ADMINISTRATION.
DO WE HAVE SOME SORT OF POLICY IN PLACE THAT SAYS THAT WE CAN'T RELEASE AN AGENDA AND THEN LATER AMEND IT? I GUESS IF THE CONCERN IS THAT WE CAN'T OR THAT THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT COME UP IN THE.
IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? LIKE A LIVING AGENDA? MS. BASSI-KELLETT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND WE APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF BIG ISSUES THAT ARE ALWAYS COMING TO COUNCILLORS FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.
SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, THERE'S THE GPC AGENDA, WHICH IS THE FIRST, SECOND, THIRD AND FOURTH, MONDAY AT NOON OF MONDAY OF EACH MONTH AT NOON, AND THEN, OF COURSE, COUNCIL MEETINGS. SO ITEMS COME TO GPC FOR CONSIDERATION, TO BE UNPACKED, TO BE REALLY THOUGHT THROUGH, TALKED ABOUT, HEY, WHAT ABOUT WHAT IF COULD WE DO? ARE THERE OTHER OPTIONS BEFORE THEN SOMETHING AND THEN THE DECISION IS MADE TO FORWARD SOMETHING ON TO COUNCIL FOR THE FORMAL APPROVAL, AND SO WHEN THINGS COME TO GPC, THERE IS IT'S A MUCH MORE AS A COMMITTEE OF COUNCIL, IT'S A MUCH MORE INFORMAL PROCESS THAT DOES ALLOW FOR THAT KIND OF DISCOURSE AND FOR THINGS TO BE CONSIDERED, AND THEY CAN BE BROUGHT BACK AGAIN TO GPC IF THE MEMBERS ARE NOT COMFORTABLE ADVANCING THAT SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM ONTO COUNCIL.
THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO TO THE COUNCIL MEETING, SO THERE ARE OPTIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES WITH HOW THE AGENDAS AT GPC CAN BE UNPACKED BECAUSE IT IS A COMMITTEE OF COUNCIL AND THERE'S MORE FLEXIBILITY.
ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD? I WILL CHIME IN HERE AS WELL THOUGH I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHERE COUNCILLOR FEQUET IS COMING FROM.
AS MS. BASSI-KELLETT JUST POINTED OUT, GPC IS MEANT FOR US TO HAVE THESE WELL-THOUGHT OUT DISCUSSIONS AND REALLY GET TO THE MEAT AND BONES OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD, AND IT IS UP TO US AS COUNCIL MEMBERS TO HASH THAT OUT AND BRING THEM BACK TO COUNCIL.
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SO I MYSELF WILL NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION AND OH, SORRY COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN SORRY.QUESTION OR A QUESTION OF CLARIFICATION THAT MAY BE MY UNDERSTANDING IS NOT THAT ISSUES WOULD KEEP COMING BACK TO COUNCIL OR TO GPC, BUT THAT THERE WOULD JUST BE LIKE OPTIONS FOR MORE OF A TIME LAG BETWEEN A GPC, AND SOMETHING COMING TO COUNCIL, AND OR SO THAT INFORMATION COMES TO COUNCIL IS LIKE A GPC PACKAGE, BUT THAT RATHER THAN A LONG WEEKEND, THREE DAYS OR SO TO REVIEW THAT AND, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO THE PUBLIC, ETCETERA, TO HAVE CONVERSATION BEFORE WE COME TO THOSE MEETINGS, BUT THAT'S THE CHANCE WHERE WE COULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME POTENTIALLY ON THE FRONT END SO THAT WE COULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFICATION FROM COUNCILLOR FEQUET IN TERMS OF IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE THINKING, BECAUSE THAT WAS THAT'S BEEN MY UNDERSTANDING OF SORT OF WHAT THE MOTION AND PROPOSAL WOULD BE.
COUNCILLOR FEQUET. THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.
YES. MY INTENT WAS, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING TODAY'S EXAMPLE OF THE ACCESSIBILITY COMMITTEE WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT IT, WE GOT IT ON, YOU KNOW, THURSDAY BEFORE THIS HAPPENED TO BE A LONG WEEKEND, SO WE GOT FOUR DAYS, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME MEATY STUFF IN THERE.
IF WE HAD HAVE GOT THAT IN ADVANCE, WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE SORTED OUT SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE TERMS OF REFERENCE THAT WE KIND OF THOUGHT OF OR REALIZED AFTER THE MEETING. SO THE ONLY REQUEST THAT TO ADMINISTRATION IS REALLY ABOUT WHAT ARE SOME WAYS OR WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDED OPTION OR A BUNCH OF OPTIONS IF THERE ARE MORE, IF THERE IS MORE THAN ONE FOR HOW TO GET MORE ADVANCED THE MEETING MATERIALS IN ADVANCE.
SO I RECOGNIZE THAT LOGISTICS, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN DONE A CERTAIN WAY FOR A LONG TIME.
IT'S ALSO ABOUT PROVIDING THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNCIL WILL BE DISCUSSING INFORMALLY AT GPC OR FORMALLY CONSIDERING AT COUNCIL MEETINGS AND HAVING MORE TIME TO REACH OUT TO US OR US TO THEM.
SO, SO IT WAS ABOUT THAT TIME AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIME IS.
ANYTHING FURTHER? ALL RIGHT, AND TO THE MOTION AS PRESENTED BY COUNCILLOR FEQUET.
ALL IN FAVOR? AND THOSE OPPOSED, AND THAT IS THAT MOTION PASSES WITH COUNCILLOR PAYNE AND MYSELF IN OPPOSITION DELEGATIONS PERTAINING TO ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
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WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM LANI COOKE REGARDING DEVELOPMENT OF A SCENE, THE SCENIC TRAIL DOWN FRANKLIN AVENUE TO THE OLD TOWN TWIN PINE TRAIL.DO WE HAVE, LANI? AND I'M JUST GOING TO READ OUT OUR DELEGATION PROCEDURES.
EACH PRESENTER SHALL BE AFFORDED FIVE MINUTES TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.
THE TIME ALLOWED FOR EACH PRESENTER MAY BE EXTENDED BEYOND FIVE MINUTES BY A RESOLUTION OF COUNCIL.
AFTER A PERSON HAS SPOKEN ANY MEMBER MAY, THROUGH THE PRESIDING OFFICER, ASK THAT PERSON OR THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR RELEVANT QUESTIONS AND NO DELEGATE SHALL BE PERMITTED ON ANY DELEGATION TO COUNCIL, EITHER BETWEEN MEMBERS OR WITH INDIVIDUALS MAKING A PRESENTATION. SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, TAKE IT AWAY.
YES, WELL, I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. MY NAME IS LANI COOKE, AND WE'RE VERY PLEASED THAT YOU FOUND TIME IN YOUR AGENDA, AND WE'RE APPRECIATIVE OF THE STAFF, SHEILA AND COLE, FOR HELPING US GET OUR BACKGROUND MATERIALS PREPARED.
SO WE'RE A LOOSELY ORGANIZED GROUP AND WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A NAME.
WE'D LIKE TO GET APPROVAL FROM YOU TO GO AHEAD WITH A PLAN TO PLANT TREES AND SHRUBS ALONG THE EASTERN SIDE OF FRANKLIN AVENUE AS IT PROCEEDS DOWN TO THE OLD TOWN.
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DO YOU HAVE A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE MAP? SO YOU WILL SEE ON THE MAP THE AREA THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.THIS AREA IS CURRENTLY ZONED P-S, WHICH STANDS FOR PS I LOVE YOU, OR I'M NOT SURE WHAT P STANDS FOR, BUT PUBLIC SOMETHING, AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL ALLOW FOR THIS IMPROVEMENT.
SO WE ARE NOT REQUESTING CITY FUNDING FOR THIS IDEA, NOR DO WE EXPECT THAT THERE WILL NEED TO BE A ZONING CHANGE. SO WE ENVISION A MORE NATURAL AREA WITH A WALKING TRAIL REPLACING THE LAWN WHICH AND THE WALKING TRAIL WOULD RUN MORE OR LESS PARALLEL TO THE SIDEWALK THAT STARTS AT 44TH STREET, AND MY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE FRIEND HAS TOTALLY SURVEYED THE AREA SO SHE CAN SORT OF DELINEATE THE AREA.
IT IS BASICALLY ON YOUR MAP AND SO WE HAVE A WALKING TRAIL RUNNING PARALLEL TO THE SIDEWALK, AND THIS OFFERS A CHOICE FOR PEDESTRIANS TO PROCEED DIRECTLY DOWN THE SIDEWALK IF THEY CHOOSE TO, OR POTENTIALLY TAKE A MORE LEISURELY WALK BENEATH SHADY TREES ON A MEANDERING TRAIL.
WE WOULD ALSO THINK THAT THERE COULD BE A FUTURE IN DEVELOPING SOME PATHWAYS THAT GO UP ONTO THE ROCK SHELVES BECAUSE THERE'S BEAUTIFUL ROCKS ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THAT TRAIL OF THE SIDEWALK, AND THESE PERHAPS IN THESE LITTLE AREAS UP ON THE ROCK SHELVES, PEDESTRIANS MAY TAKE A LITTLE MOMENT TO SIT BY A BOULDER OR LISTEN TO THE WIND BLOW THROUGH THE BIRCH TREES THAT ARE GATHERED THERE.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ZEN GARDENERS WOULD BE QUITE JEALOUS OF THE BOULDERS AND BONSAI SHAPED TREES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR NORTHLAND, AND I WOULD DEARLY LOVE TO SHOW THEM OFF TO MORE OF OUR OWN CITIZENS.
SPACES ON THE ROCK SHELVES WOULD BE ACCESSED POSSIBLY LATER.
WE'VE TALKED TO MEMBERS OF ECOLOGY NORTH AND THE STAFF AT ECOLOGY NORTH AND THEY SUPPORT THIS IDEA, WHICH IS VERY HELPFUL FOR US BECAUSE WE'RE PREPARED TO DEVELOP PROPOSALS AND WE WOULD PUT THEM INTO DIFFERENT FUNDING ORGANIZATIONS AND ECOLOGY NORTH HAS CHARITABLE STATUS, SO THIS IS A HELPFUL PARTNERSHIP FOR US, AND SHOULD YOU AGREE WITH THIS IDEA THAT WE HAVE, WE WILL KEEP YOU CITY COUNCILLORS AND MEMBERS OF THE STAFF WELL-APPRIZED OF OUR PLANS AS THEY MOVE ALONG, AND WE'LL SHARE THE LANDSCAPE PLANS AS THEY ARE DEVELOPED.
KAREN HUMPHREY, A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT IN FROM OUR CITY WILL NOW BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO YOU IN MORE DETAIL ABOUT OUR PROPOSED OLD TOWN HILL TRAIL PROJECT.
JUST BEFORE YOU SPEAK, KAREN, COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN.
THANKS, KAREN. WE JUST HAVE TO DO THE FORMALITIES, SO I WANT TO MOVE THAT COUNCIL HEAR A DELEGATION FROM MISS KAREN [INAUDIBLE] REGARDING DEVELOPMENT OF A SCENIC TRAIL DOWN FRANKLIN AVENUE TO OLD TOWN TWIN PINE TRAIL.
DO I HAVE A SECONDER? COUNCILLOR FEQUET.
ALL IN FAVOR? AND THAT'S CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
[CHUCKLING] OH, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
THANK YOU. SO ON THE I JUST WANT TO BE QUITE CLEAR THAT THE DRAWING YOU HAVE IS BASICALLY WHAT'S THERE NOW, AND SO THAT LIGHT GREEN IS THE LAWN. SO THAT'S THE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING INTO A MORE NATURAL AREA, AND THAT WE WE THINK THAT DOING THAT WILL HAVE A NUMBER OF BENEFITS.
FIRSTLY, WE THINK THAT THERE COULD ACTUALLY BE A REDUCTION IN MAINTENANCE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU'RE SPENDING TIME AND MONEY TO MOW AND WATER THAT LAWN, AND IF IT'S BASICALLY A LITTLE NATURAL FOREST, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
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WE THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME SAFETY BENEFITS BECAUSE AS THE AS IT MELTS AND YOU GET THE WATER RUSHING OFF THE OUTCROPS THAT GOES DOWN ONTO THAT SIDEWALK AND ICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.CERTAINLY PERCEPTION OF SAFETY OF BEING RIGHT BESIDE THE ZIPPING DOWN THAT HILL VERSUS BEING OFF TO THE SIDE A LITTLE BIT. SOME TOURISM BENEFITS WE COULD SEE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A QUIETER AREA TO WALK AND THERE WOULD BE POSSIBILITIES, I THINK, FOR SOME NICE INTERPRETIVE SIGNS.
THE ROCKS THEMSELVES ARE VERY, VERY INTERESTING, AND THEN THERE'S CLIMATE BENEFITS.
SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL SO THAT WE COULD JUST GO AHEAD AND EXPLORE THIS FURTHER AND WE WOULD NEED TO BE ABLE TO FIND THE RIGHT PLANTS, SOURCE THEM AND LOOK AT WHERE EXACTLY THE TRAIL WOULD GO, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THE APPROVAL IS REALLY DO YOU LIKE DO YOU LIKE IT ENOUGH TO ALLOW US TO GO AHEAD AND THERE YOU GO.
THAT'S IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILLORS? COUNCILLOR COCHRANE.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON CLARITY HERE, THOUGH.
YOU OR A QUESTION I NEED CLARIFIED HERE.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE EXPLORED.
WE'RE NOT ASKING THAT IT BE TURNED OVER TO OUR GROUP OR TO ECOLOGY NORTH.
THERE'S MAINTENANCE THERE DONE NOW.
SO WHAT KIND OF MAINTENANCE WOULD YOU NEED ON A TRAIL AT THIS POINT? WOULDN'T SEE THAT'S A TRAIL AT ALL.
LIKE THE FRAME LAKE TRAIL, WHICH IS VERY WIDE PAVED, PLOWED, THAT KIND OF THING.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PATHWAYS, AND SO RIGHT NOW THAT THERE IS A TRAIL THAT PEOPLE HAVE JUST BEATEN DOWN THE SNOW ON THAT HILL SO THAT THEY'RE OFF OFF THE SIDEWALK.
PROBABLY THE SAME THING WOULD HAPPEN WITH THIS TRAIL.
IT WOULD JUST GET BEATEN DOWN IN THE WINTER.
SO THERE'S NOT AGAIN, IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE, I DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S WOULD BE A HUGE, WOULD NOT BE A BURDEN ON THE CITY, I WOULDN'T IMAGINE. THANK YOU.
THANKS, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
IT'S MORE A QUESTION TO ADMINISTRATION.
DOES ADMINISTRATION HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH WORK BEING DONE IN THIS AREA? IS THERE ANY OTHER PLANS? DOES THIS ALIGN WITH OUR OUR STRATEGIES AND KIND OF OTHER EVERGREENING AND BEAUTIFICATION KIND OF PLANS THAT THE CITY HAS? MS. BASSI-KELLETT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.
THE AREA THAT IS MOWED, GOING ALONGSIDE THE SIDEWALK, GOING DOWN TO OLD TOWN UNDERNEATH THERE IS A SEWAGE FORCE MAIN AND THAT COMES FROM LIFT STATION ONE, WHICH IS AT THE SCHOOL DRAW AND FRANKLIN INTERSECTION.
SO IT'S VERY DELIBERATE THAT AREA IS LEFT UNTOUCHED, UNDEVELOPED BECAUSE OF COURSE, IF THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR IT TO BE DUG UP, WE WOULD NEED TO GET IN THERE REALLY QUICKLY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN FROM ADMINISTRATION.
WE'VE LEFT IT THAT WAY DELIBERATELY.
WITH THE UPCOMING WORK ON THAT LIFT STATION, DO WE ANTICIPATE HAVING TO REPLACE ANY OF THOSE PIPES OR IS THERE WORK ALONG THAT SPACE AS PART OF THAT LIFT STATION REPLACEMENT? MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU.
YES, IT WILL BE DUG UP AS PART OF OUR WORK WITH LIFT STATION ONE AND THEN ANYTIME WITH A FORCE MAIN, WE CERTAINLY LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE, GIVEN THAT WE DO KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES WITH FORCE MAINS THAT WE NEED TO STAY ON TOP OF FOR MAINTENANCE AND FOR SERVICING.
NO, AS PER THE PROCEEDINGS, UNFORTUNATELY.
THANKS FOR THAT. I GUESS A QUESTION BACK TO THE PRESENTERS.
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OR GROUP HAS HAS LOOKED AT BEAUTIFYING EITHER CLOSE BY OR IS THAT KIND OF THE ONE YOU'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON TO DATE? THAT WAS DEFINITELY THE ONE WE WERE LOOKING AT, AND I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WHOLE AREA NEEDS TO BE LEFT WITHOUT.THAT SAID, THERE'S PLENTY OF AREAS IN THE CITY THAT COULD USE TREES, SHRUBS, BEAUTIFICATION.
AWESOME. YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
YEAH, I MEAN, MAYBE IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR AN ADMINISTRATION JUST TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER AT GPC ONCE WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO CHECK THE MAPS AND SEE IF THERE IS ANY OPTIONS AVAILABLE? OR DO WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT WHOLE AREA IS OFF LIMITS FOR THE REASONS THAT YOU SPOKE TO? I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANYBODY ON THE SPOT RIGHT NOW.
SO IF IT'S EASIER TO LOOK INTO THIS, I MEAN, GENERALLY I'M IN SUPPORT OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING FOR THE REASONS YOU MENTIONED, BUT IF THERE'S GOOD REASONS WHY THAT AREA CAN'T BE DEVELOPED OR SOME OF IT CAN'T BE, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT IS, AND IF ADMINISTRATION ISN'T WOULD PREFER TO RESPOND TO THAT MAYBE AT A FUTURE MEETING.
HAPPY TO SUGGEST THAT IF THAT'S MORE APPROPRIATE.
MS. BASSI-KELLETT, DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT? THANK YOU. YEAH, WE'D APPRECIATE HAVING OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING REPRESENTATIVES PRESENT WHO'S UNFORTUNATELY UNABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT THAT THE AREA WITH THE FORCE MAIN IT'S PART OF THE LIFT STATION ONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT MAJOR RENOVATIONS.
RENOVATIONS MAKES IT SOUND LIKE A LOVELY BUILDING.
IT'S A BIG HOLE IN THE GROUND WITH LOTS OF SEWAGE IN THERE DATING BACK TO 1969.
WE'RE DOING MASSIVE WORK ON THAT.
IT HAS TO BE REPAIRED AND FIXED, INCLUDING THE FORCE MAIN.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT WILL BE INVOLVED IN THAT.
SO WE'D WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS FURTHER.
LANI, I THOUGHT YOU TALKED ABOUT TWIN PINE.
SO CERTAINLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ABOUT THE MUNICIPAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND MAKING SURE THAT IT DOES REMAIN ACCESSIBLE, AND IT'S A PRETTY IMPORTANT PIECE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.
I WAS HOPING TO SEE THE PIPES IN THE GROUND, BUT I DIDN'T.
[CHUCKLING] IT WOULD BE SWEET. FIRST QUESTION, I GUESS, IS HOW OFTEN BEYOND OBVIOUSLY AN EMERGENCY SITUATION DO WE TYPICALLY DIG UP THE FORCE MAIN? MS. BASSI-KELLETT. I WILL SAY THAT IN MY TIME HERE IN WHICH IS NOW WHAT, SIX YEARS, THE SEWAGE FORCE MAIN WENT ON A VERY COLD DAY IN APRIL IN 2018 AND IT WAS NOT NICE.
I WOULDN'T PREMISE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HOW OFTEN I THINK THINGS HAPPEN, BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT WITH THE REPLACEMENT AND UPGRADE TO LIFT STATION ONE, THERE IS GOING TO BE WORK DONE ON THE FORCE MAIN WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.
I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT OPTIONS HERE.
I GUESS I WONDER IF THE PRESENTERS I'M LOOKING AT GOOGLE MAPS RIGHT NOW, THERE IS A SECTION OF ALREADY TREED LIKE AREA WITH TREES AND THEN THERE IS A SPOT THAT HAS ROCKS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE PRESENTERS HAD CONSIDERED LOOKING AT A BOARDWALK SITUATION, BUT THAT COULD BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER TOO.
YOU GO THROUGH THE WOODED AREA THAT ALREADY EXISTS AND POTENTIALLY INCORPORATE BOARDWALKS.
I THINK THAT THIS IS STILL SOMETHING THAT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO CONSIDER, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE UP TO YOU TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO.
DID YOU WANT TO COMMENT TO THAT, KAREN? CERTAINLY IF THE WHOLE AREA'S GOING TO BE DUG UP FOR THE FORCE MAIN, THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO BE PLANTING TREES, BUT IT DOES MEAN THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT AREA
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WHILE THAT'S BEING DONE AND SAY, OKAY, ONCE THINGS ARE PUT BACK, IS THERE A WAY TO DO IT SO THAT EMERGENCY WISE IT CAN BE ACCESSED EASILY, BUT THAT THERE IS A LITTLE BIT AT LEAST ESTHETICALLY IT'S A LITTLE BETTER AND HOPEFULLY IT'S ALSO A LITTLE BETTER IN TERMS OF SOME OF THOSE ITEMS OF COMFORT AND SAFETY THAT I WAS ALSO TALKING ABOUT.SO I GUESS IT'S JUST AT THIS POINT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR IT TO BE LOOKED AT NOT JUST AS AN ENGINEERING PROJECT, WHICH IT OBVIOUSLY WILL BE, AND THAT'S THE PRIMARY PURPOSE, BUT OVERALL THAT YOU CONSIDER IN THE TERMS OF REFERENCE, HOWEVER IT'S DONE THAT AFTER THE DIGGING IS DONE, HOW IT'S PUT BACK IS PART OF THE PROJECT.
AWESOME. THANK YOU. I GUESS A QUESTION TO ADMINISTRATION IS WOULD WE ENTERTAIN A PROPOSAL, SAY, FOR WHEN THAT WORK IS DONE, THAT THE SPACE BE REBUILT, MAYBE WITH THE SMALL WALKING PATH TIGHTER TO THE ROCK AND SOME SHRUBS BE A POTENTIAL CONSIDERATION? IF WE SAY, I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS COULD SOMEONE BRING A PROPOSAL TO US ABOUT THAT? MS. BASSI-KELLETT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ABSOLUTELY. I DON'T THINK THAT'S AT ALL UNREASONABLE.
IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME WORK DONE ON FRANKLIN HILL AS WELL ON THE ROAD FOR ANYONE THAT GOES UP AND DOWN THERE REGULARLY AND SEES THAT WE'RE BACK DEALING WITH THAT SAME AGE OLD ISSUE OF THE UNDERGROUND STREAM.
SO THERE'S GOING TO BE WORK ON THAT AREA THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE, NOT JUST THE LIFT STATION AND THE FORCE MAIN, BUT ALSO ON THAT ROADWAY AND SO CERTAINLY AS WE LOOK AT REDESIGN, WHEN THAT WORK GETS DONE, I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT SOME BEAUTIFICATION ALONG THAT WAY.
THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.
IT'S NOT THE ROAD GOING DOWN INTO OLD TOWN.
SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT.
I GUESS MY QUESTION, MY QUESTION TO ADMINISTRATION, IT'S PROBABLY MIGHT BE EXACTLY THE SAME AS COUNCILLOR MCGURK, BUT MAYBE A VARIATION, BUT I GUESS HAVE WE EVER DONE COLLABORATIONS LIKE THIS BEFORE WITH OUTSIDE NONPROFIT GROUPS? DO WE NEED FORMAL RELATIONSHIPS? I KNOW THIS ONE ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN BASED OFF OF THE ANSWERS WE'VE HEARD, BUT JUST I WANT TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF, TO ME, THIS IS THE EXACT TYPE OF WORK THAT WE SHOULD BE COLLABORATING WITH RESIDENTS ON AN IDEA FUNDING EXTERNALLY FROM THE CITY, PEOPLE WANTING TO ENGAGE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THEIR CITY.
DO WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO AND WITHIN OUR WITHIN OUR LIABILITY, WITHIN ALL OF THESE KIND OF FUN THINGS, DO WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO BUILD THESE RELATIONSHIPS GOING FORWARD? AND IF WE DON'T, THAT WILL BE THE INEVITABLE WORK DOWN THE LINE IS HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE DO GET THAT CAPACITY? SO THAT'S THE QUESTION FOR ADMINISTRATION, AND I HOPE THAT WAS CLEAR.
THANK YOU, AND I DO BELIEVE WE DO AS MANY COLLABORATIONS AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, BUT I WILL ALLOW MS. BASSI-KELLETT TO BROADEN ON THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE PARTNERSHIPS OF THIS MAGNITUDE IF IT IS INVOLVING DIFFERENT PARTNERS WHEN IT COMES TO OUR DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN STANDARDS AND MEETING THOSE, I THINK THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO BE ABLE TO COLLABORATE.
THESE WILL TAKE DIFFERENT FORMS. WE KNOW THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM AND WE SEE MANY DIFFERENT KINDS OF COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT AMPLIFY THE GREAT WORK THAT'S GOING ON ACROSS THE CITY, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GUERILLA GROOMERS THAT ARE OUT MAKING SKI TRAILS OR PEOPLE WHO ARE MAINTAINING RINKS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, OUTDOOR RINKS.
SO WE KNOW THAT SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION IS THERE, AND WE WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES COULD LOOK LIKE TO EXPLORE WHEN IT COMES TO MEETING DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN STANDARDS, MAKING SURE THAT WE MEET OUR REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS.
THERE'S A LOT OF PIECES MOVING AROUND THIS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE ARE, BUT OF COURSE THAT DOES THE INTEREST OF MAKING THE GATEWAY TO OLD TOWN INTO SOMETHING REALLY BEAUTIFUL IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE CAN ALL GET BEHIND.
THANKS FOR THAT RESPONSE, AND AS YOU SAY, ALL OF THE GROOMING AND ICE RINK BUILDING, IT'S JUST SORT OF MADE ME REALIZE, OF COURSE, WE DO THOSE KIND OF COLLABORATIONS, BUT JUST ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO GOING FORWARD IN ORDER TO MAKE THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS AGAIN.
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AN IMPORTANT AND MEANINGFUL WAY.ANYTHING THAT AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH YOUR WORK, NOT TO ADD NEW WORK, BUT AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH YOUR WORK, IF THERE'S EVER AREAS WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE OUR PROCESSES TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE COLLABORATIONS ARE POSSIBLE, ARE POSSIBLE.
I JUST REALLY THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE AS A CITY DO THINGS THAT REDUCES THE BURDEN ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY AND WELCOMES IN THE OPPORTUNITY AND OFFER OF OUR RESIDENTS TO ENGAGE SO MEANINGFULLY.
I'D LIKE TO ECHO THE COMMENTS OF SOME OF THE OTHER COUNCILLORS.
JUST THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING OUT AND FOR PUTTING THE PROPOSAL TOGETHER.
OBVIOUSLY IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE SOME OTHER ISSUES AND I'D DEFINITELY DEFER TO MISTER GREENCORN ON MAKING SURE THAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS ACCESSIBLE AND FUNCTIONAL , BUT YEAH, IT'S GREAT TO SEE SUCH A PROPOSAL AND HOPEFULLY THERE CAN BE SOME SORT OF COLLABORATION IN THE WAY THAT AFTER THE LIFT STATION AND THE FORCE MAIN WORK IS DONE, THAT THERE COULD BE SOMETHING THERE.
YEAH, SO THANKS AGAIN VERY MUCH FOR COMING OUT.
THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR WARBURTON, DID YOU HAVE COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT, COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN.
SORRY, I'M GOING TO DRAG IT OUT ONE MORE SECOND.
SO WHAT WAS THE THOUGHT OF ADDITIONAL TRAJECTORY THAT IT MAY HAVE TAKEN THAT BROUGHT THIS TO THE AGENDA THIS EVENING? MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU.
THAT'S WHAT IN MY HEAD WHERE I WENT.
THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THAT, AND THERE'S A NUGGET FOR YOURSELVES.
YEAH, JUST ONE QUICK COMMENT ON THAT.
SO THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REDEVELOP SOME SORT OF TWIN PINE TRAIL THERE.
THANK YOU, AND WITH THAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING IN AND BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO SLIDE DOWN THAT ROAD, MS. BASSI-KELLETT BEFORE, YOU KNOW, IT GETS STRAIGHTENED OUT.
ALL RIGHT, THERE WERE NO ADMINISTRATIVE INQUIRIES FOR THE AGENDA.
ARE THERE ANY ADMINISTRATIVE INQUIRIES FROM THE FLOOR?
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COUNCILLOR FEQUET.SO ON THE TOPIC OF HOUSING, SPECIFICALLY RESIDENTIAL MARKET HOUSING, I KNOW THERE'S LOTS OF INITIATIVES THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT RECENTLY AND HOUSING IS CERTAINLY A PRIORITY , BUT WITH RESPECT TO RESIDENTIAL MARKET LOTS AND BRINGING THEM TO MARKET, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE RECEIVED A PRESENTATION ON A FEW MEETINGS AGO WAS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE OBVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED VARIOUS PARCELS TO MOVE FOR ADMINISTRATION, TO MOVE FORWARD ON.
SOME REQUIRE REZONING, SOME REQUIRE DEVELOPMENT PLANS, SOME MAY BE MORE SIMPLE THAN OTHERS, AND WE'VE HEARD NUMBERS THROWN OUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, 15 LOTS A YEAR OR, YOU KNOW, 10 TO 15 LOTS A YEAR IS KIND OF THE RANGE OF WHAT THE REALTORS, YOU KNOW, THINK WOULD THE CITY NEEDS AND WOULD BE SELLING.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, KNOWING THAT THE TIMELINES WERE ANYWHERE FROM 9 MONTHS TO TWO YEARS HEARING THE PRESENTATION PREVIOUSLY FROM PLANNING, I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY? WHAT IS THE FASTEST POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING SOME RESIDENTIAL MARKET OR RESIDENTIAL LOTS TO MARKET? ARE THERE SOME EASY WINS, SOME LOW HANGING FRUIT? UNDERSTANDING THAT THE LARGER PROCESS IS GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME AND SOME OPTIONS MAY GET TAKEN OFF THE LIST AND OTHERS MAY PRESENT THEMSELVES AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE IS SOME LOW HANGING FRUIT FROM ADMINISTRATION'S PERSPECTIVE ABOUT BRINGING SOME RESIDENTIAL LOTS TO MARKET AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
MS. BASSI-KELLETT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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WE KNOW THERE'S SOME GREAT PROJECTS UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW THAT WILL TAKE SOME OF THE PRESSURE OFF, BUT THE INTEREST CONTINUES FOR RESIDENTIAL LAND DEVELOPMENT.THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.
CURRENTLY, THERE'S THREE LOTS AVAILABLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THOSE JUST CAME UP FOR SALE LAST WEEK.
SO THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED WERE ENCOURAGED TO VISIT THE CITY'S WEBSITE LAND FOR SALE AND MAKE APPLICATION SO THERE ARE LOTS AVAILABLE ON A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED BASIS AND ANOTHER TWO LOTS RESIDENTIAL LOTS WILL BE AVAILABLE IN KAM LAKE SOUTH AND NEXT MONTH WE WILL TAKE [INAUDIBLE] FORM. SO THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED MAKE AN APPLICATION AND THE [INAUDIBLE] DRAW IS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED ON MAY 4TH THIS YEAR AT COUNCIL CHAMBERS MAKE AN APPLICATION SO WE WILL DECIDE WHO WILL GET THOSE TWO LOTS.
SO IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF UNIT FOR THE NEW LOTS, A CURRENTLY ZONED R-2, WHICH ALLOWED FROM SINGLE RESIDENTIAL TO DUPLEX TOWNHOUSE TOWNHOUSES.
SO THE NUMBER OF LOTS CAN BE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS FROM ONE TO UP TO SIX NEW UNITS PER LOT.
THAT WILL OFFSET EVEN A LITTLE BIT THE HOUSING PRESSURE AND THE OTHER TWO LOTS IS KAM LAKE SOUTH.
THESE TWO LOTS ARE ZONED RESIDENTIAL ESTATE WHICH ALLOWED SINGLE RESIDENTIAL OR DUPLEXES.
SO UP TO FOUR DWELLING UNITS IF POSSIBLE, IF THE DEVELOPER IS MOTIVATED.
SO OTHER UNIT POSSIBLE UNIT IS THE SMALL RESIDENTIAL LOT.
THIS LOT CAN BE SUBDIVIDED AND UP FOR SALE PROBABLY AS EARLY AS END OF THIS YEAR.
END OF 2023, DEPENDING ON HOW WE SUBDIVIDE THE LOT.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. A BIT OF A FOLLOW UP TO THAT ONE.
SO I KNOW OUR WORK PLAN IS GETTING REVISED.
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A CRACK AT THAT, ROUGHLY? MS. BASSI-KELLETT.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WANTING TO GET STARTED ON.
I DON'T HAVE BEFORE ME THE EXACT TIMING ON IT.
I WILL ASK MR. [INAUDIBLE] IF HE IS AWARE.
I KNOW IT'S AN ENGAGEMENT BETWEEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND STRATEGY AND PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
PERHAPS MISS THISTLE HAS MORE OF AN UPDATE AT HER FINGERTIPS.
SO ENGAGEMENT COMMENCED ON THE DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE BYLAW.
THERE WAS A SURVEY ON [INAUDIBLE].
ANYTHING FURTHER? SEEING NONE.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN AND SECONDED?
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SORRY. MOTION BY COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN.SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR FEQUET.
ALL IN FAVOR? AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE WILL SEE EVERYBODY NEXT MONDAY.
NO. DO WE HAVE A MEETING MONDAY? WE HAVE A MEETING MONDAY.
ALL RIGHT, HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.