[1. Opening Statement]
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AND I'LL CALL OUR GOVERNANCE AND PRIORITIES COMMITTEE FOR MONDAY, JANUARY 16TH, 2023 TO ORDER.
THANK YOU. MAYBE JUST A BIT MORE.
YEAH, THERE WAS THIS A BIT OF FEEDBACK IF FOLKS CAN HEAR.
FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL, IT'S BEEN THE TRADITIONAL LAND OF THE YELLOWKNIFE DENE FIRST NATION.
WE RESPECT THE HISTORIES, LANGUAGES AND CULTURES OF ALL OTHER INDIGENOUS PEOPLES, INCLUDING THE NORTH SLAVE METIS AND ALL FIRST NATIONS, MATY AND INUIT, WHOSE PRESENCE CONTINUES TO ENRICH OUR VIBRANT COMMUNITY.
[2. Approval of the agenda]
MS. BASSI-KELLETT, ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD TO THE AGENDA? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.THANK YOU. NEXT, WE HAVE DISCLOSURE OF PECUNIARY INTEREST AND THE GENERAL NATURE THEREOF.
DOES ANY MEMBER HAVE A PECUNIARY INTEREST BEFORE COUNCIL OR BEFORE COMMITTEE? SORRY. SEEING NONE.
[4. A presentation regarding the 2026 Arctic Winter Games]
SO MS. BASSI-KELLETT, IF YOU'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM AND THEN WE'LL ASK OUR GUESTS TO COME ON UP.THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MADAM CHAIR, WITH PLEASURE.
WE'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF MUNICIPAL AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY WOULD BE WILLING TO BE A PARTNER IN HOSTING THE 2026 ARCTIC WINTER GAMES. WE KNOW THAT THE GAMES BRING A LOT OF EXCITEMENT, A LOT OF GREAT COMPETITION.
WE KNOW THE GAMES ALSO BRING A TON OF WORK AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THE PRESENTATION FROM THE MACA DELEGATION TODAY, KNOWING THAT THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME SINCE 2008 THAT THE CITY HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.
DIFFERENT CLIMATE AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
BUT WE VERY MUCH LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT MACA HAS TO PROPOSE TODAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO HOLD IT DOWN.
PERFECT. THERE YOU GO. OVER TO YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR ALTY AND COUNCIL.
JOINING TODAY WITH ME IS THE DEPARTMENT OF MUNICIPAL AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS STAFF ARE MS. LAURA GRU, DEPUTY MINISTER MR. GARY DOUGHERTY, AND MS. ALISON BROWN, DIRECTOR OF SPORT, RECREATION AND YOUTH, AND JEFFREY, MY MINISTERIAL SPECIAL ADVISOR AS WELL.
WE HAVE MR. GARY, DIRECTOR AT LARGE, THE WINTER GAMES GAMES COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS MY FORMER DIRECTOR.
WAY BACK WHEN THE WINTER GAMES ARE RECOGNIZED AS THE PRIMARY CELEBRATION OF THE CIRCUMPOLAR SPORT AND CULTURE, FIRST HOSTED IN YELLOWKNIFE IN 1970, THE GOAL WAS TO CREATE A FORUM WHERE ATHLETES FROM THE CIRCUMPOLAR WORLD COULD COMPETE ON THEIR OWN TERMS AND ON THEIR OWN TURF.
THESE FIRST GAMES BEGIN MODESTLY, WITH PARTICIPATION FROM YUKON, GNWT AND ALASKA.
ALREADY WINTER GAMES HAVE CHANGED OVER TIME, WITH ADDITIONAL JURISDICTIONS PARTICIPATING.
THE GAMES HAVE BEEN HOSTED SEVERAL TIMES GNWT WITH HAY RIVER AND PINE POINT, HOSTED IN 1978.
HAY RIVER AND FORT SMITH CO-HOSTING IN 2018.
YELLOWKNIFE HAS HOSTED THE WINTER GAMES IN 1984, 1990, 1998 AND 2008.
IN MAY 2022 THE WINTER GAMES INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE WROTE TO ME AND EXPLAINED THAT DUE TO RUSSIA'S WAR IN UKRAINE, THEY WERE NO LONGER CONSIDERING THE BID FROM ALL RUSSIA TO HOST THE 2026 WINTER GAMES.
THE GNWT IS NOW ASSESSING THE FEASIBILITY OF THIS REQUEST.
IF THE MAYOR AGREES, I WILL WILL ASK MR. GARY CHARITY TO DELIVER OUR PRESENTATION AND WE'LL BE VERY HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS, AND WE'LL ASK GARY TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS INSTEAD OF ROTATING PEOPLE UP AND BACK. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
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SO. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM MAYOR.COUNCILORS. MS. BASSI-KELLETT? THANK YOU, MR. THOMPSON. I'M APPEARING BEFORE YOU TODAY AS MY ROLE AS DIRECTOR OF SPORT RECREATION, YOUTH, AS WELL AS THE DIRECTOR FOR THE ARTICLE AND THE GAMES INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. BUT WHY DO THAT? THE CURRENT HOSTING ROTATION HAS ALBERTA HOSTING A 2023 GAMES.
ALASKA WILL HOST IN 2024 AND THE GNWT IS NEXT UP IN 2028.
FOLLOWING THAT [INAUDIBLE] GREENLAND IS CO HOSTING IN 2023 OR 2030, SORRY.
HOWEVER, THIS ROTATION HAS NOW CHANGED GIVEN EVENTS IN UKRAINE.
BUT IN FEBRUARY 2022, THE WAR OF UKRAINE BEGAN.
THE INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE IS NOW SEEKING TO IDENTIFY A HOST TO REPLACE RUSSIA FOR 2026 AND HAVE WRITTEN TO MINISTER THOMPSON TO REQUEST THAT THE ENTITY CONSIDER MOVING UP IN THE ROTATION TO HOST IN 2026.
IN 2018, HAY RIVER AND FORT SMITH CO HOSTED THE ARCTIC WINTER GAMES.
WHILE THE GNWT DOES HAVE INTEREST IN REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOSTING THE ARCTIC OR THE GAMES IN ANY OTHER REGION OTHER THAN YELLOWKNIFE WOULD NOT BE PRACTICAL IN 2026 DUE LARGELY TO SHORT TIMELINES, LACK OF EXPERIENCE, LACK OF FACILITIES AND COST.
THERE IS ALSO A NEW SCHOOL, WHICH IS A REPLACEMENT FOR THE COLLEGE SYSTEM SCHOOL.
THE CITY ALSO HAS A VARIETY OF RESTAURANTS AND HOTELS THAT CAN SUPPORT VISITORS.
THE AVAILABILITY OF THE SERVICES AND FACILITIES COULD HELP REDUCE THE HOSTING BUDGET.
THE ARCTIC WINTER GAMES IS ALSO OPEN TO DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO HOSTING THAT COULD INCLUDE MODIFIED FORMATS, SPLIT GAMES, APPROACH SATELLITE COMMUNITIES, THE NUMBER OF SPORTS BEING CONTESTED, AND THE NUMBER OF ATHLETES THAT WOULD ATTEND.
THE LARGE, LARGE ISSUE FOR THE HOST SOCIETY IS HOW TO FEED ATHLETES.
THIS FACILITY WOULD LIKELY NOT BE AVAILABLE IN 2026.
THEREFORE, A NEW PLAN FOR FEEDING ATHLETES WOULD BE NEEDED.
FOR TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION RECOMMENDATIONS ALIGN WITH THE 2026 ARTICLE AND GAMES.
RECOMMENDATION 87 TO PROVIDE PUBLIC EDUCATION THAT TELLS THE STORY OF ABORIGINAL ATHLETES IN AN IS AN IN AN OPPORTUNITY TO CELEBRATE NOT ONLY [INAUDIBLE] ATHLETES BUT INDIGENOUS ATHLETES FROM THE CIRCUMPOLAR WORLD.
AND RECOMMENDATION 91 THAT THOSE HOSTING INTERNATIONAL EVENTS ENSURE INDIGENOUS PEOPLES PROTOCOLS ARE RESPECTED AND THAT LOCAL INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES ARE ENGAGED IN ALL ASPECTS OF PLANNING AND PARTICIPATE IN SUCH EVENTS.
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THE CURRENT THINKING IS THAT FIRST NATIONS WILL BE INVITED TO JOIN THE WHOLE SOCIETY AND THAT CONSIDERATION BE GIVEN TO HOSTING CERTAIN EVENTS IN [INAUDIBLE] OR POSSIBLY FOR PROVIDENCE BY INCLUDING THE FIRST NATIONS IN THE HOST SOCIETY, WE CAN CREATE A MEANINGFUL ENVIRONMENT TO RESPOND TO TRC'S CALLS FOR ACTION.THERE ARE FACILITIES THAT COULD BE USED, FOR EXAMPLE, CHIEF JIMMY BRUNO HIGH SCHOOL OR THE SPORTSPLEX AND WE KNOW THAT FOR THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE TO CONSIDER HOSTING IN 26, YOU WILL NEED STRONG SUPPORT FROM THE GNWT AS WELL AS THE GOVERNMENT OF CANADA.
THIS AMOUNT IS THE STARTING POINT FOR NEGOTIATING SUPPORT FROM THE GNWT.
MACA WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH INTERNAL PROCESS TO OBTAIN FINANCIAL SUPPORT.
IN ADDITION, SEVERAL GNWT EMPLOYEES MADE IN-KIND CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE HOST SOCIETY.
WE WOULD PROPOSE A SIMILAR KIND OF SUPPORT FROM THE GNWT THAT MACA COULD FACILITATE OVER TIME.
QUITE A MOUTHFUL, BUT IT IS A FEDERAL PROGRAM.
UNDER THIS PROGRAM, CANADA HAS FUNDING AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT THE ARCTIC WINTER GAMES.
THE PROGRAM IS BASED ON A 3550 RULE, WHICH MEANS THEIR FUNDING COULD NOT EXCEED 35% OF THE TOTAL EVENT COSTS AND WERE NOT EXCEED 50% OF TOTAL PUBLIC FUNDING. PUBLIC FUNDING IS DEFINED AS FEDERAL, TERRITORIAL OR MISCIBLE FUNDING, INCLUDING IN-KIND CONTRIBUTIONS.
IN PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WITH SPORT CANADA TO REVIEW THE PARAMETERS OF THIS PROGRAM, I UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WAS REALISTIC THAT THE GNWT COULD PURSUE FEDERAL FUNDING UNDER THIS PROGRAM, PROJECTED AT AROUND 1.5 TO 2 MILLION DEPENDING ON WHAT FINAL REVENUES WOULD BE FROM THE GNWT AND THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE.
WITHIN THESE POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES, THERE IS STILL A NEED FOR MUNICIPAL CONTRIBUTIONS.
THE GROUP UNDERSTANDS THAT THERE COULD BE RISKS ASSOCIATED ASSOCIATED WITH HOSTING IN 2026 AND WOULD BE OPEN TO DISCUSSING CO-MANAGEMENT APPROACHES THAT COULD REDUCE THE RISK OF COST OVERRUNS THAT MAY IMPACT THE HOST SOCIETY OR THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE.
WE WOULD BE PREPARED TO SUPPORT RISK MANAGEMENT TO ENSURE THE COST OVERRUNS DO NOT OCCUR.
SHOULD ALL GO WELL WITH THE FUNDRAISING AND DELIVERY OF THE EVENT.
AND SHOULD THE HOST SOCIETY TURN A PROFIT? WE WOULD PROPOSE TO PUT ANY SURPLUS INTO A SPORT AND CULTURAL LEGACY FUND TO SUPPORT FUTURE SPORT AND RECREATION OR SPORT AND ARTISTIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE 23 ARCTIC WINNING GAME BUDGET FOR WOOD BUFFALO.
THEY WERE SUCCESSFUL IN SECURING A HIGHER LEVEL OF FEDERAL SUPPORT ON THE EXPENSES SIDE.
ACCOMMODATION COSTS IN WOOD BUFFALO ARE CONSIDERABLY HIGHER THAN USUAL.
ATHLETES IN WOOD BUFFALO ARE STAYING IN ONE OF THE OIL CAP COMPANY EMPLOYEE CAMPS AND HAVE THEIR OWN ROOMS. THIS IS A DIFFERENT FROM THE NORMAL ARTIC WINTER GAME STANDARD FOR ATHLETE COMPETITION.
GENERALLY, WHEN THE ARCTIC WINTER GAMES ARE FUNDED IN THE US, THERE IS LESS DIRECT GOVERNMENT SUPPORT AND MORE SUPPORT DRIVEN LOCALLY THROUGH FUNDRAISING, SPONSORSHIP AND IN-KIND CONTRIBUTIONS.
SO THERE IS LITTLE IN TERMS OF INFRASTRUCTURE OR SPORT COSTS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
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THE PRIOR SLIDE SPOKE OF THE EXPENSES AND REVENUES ASSOCIATED WITH HOSTING AN ARTIC WINTER GAMES.THE NEXT SLIDE SPEAKS TO THE ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL BENEFITS OF HOSTING THE ARCTIC WINTER GAMES.
THE INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE UNDERSTANDS THAT GOVERNMENTS MUST HAVE ACCESS TO ECONOMIC ANALYSIS TO INFORM DECISION MAKING AND AS A RESULT HAVE SUPPORTED OR ENDORSED SEVERAL ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL BENEFIT STUDIES OVER THE YEARS.
THE GNWT IS FACING CHALLENGING TIMES AS WE RECOVER FROM THE COVID PANDEMIC.
AND THE IMPACT OF LARGE SCALE FLOODING AND COMMUNITIES IN 2001 OR 2021 AND 2022.
COLLECTIVELY, THESE EVENTS HAVE TAKEN A TOLL ON THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND ON RESIDENTS.
SINCE 2008, THERE HAS BEEN AN EXPANSION OF AVAILABLE HOTEL ROOMS IN YELLOWKNIFE.
AND THAT THE DEMAND FOR COUNT OF WINTER GAMES WOULD EXCEED AVAILABILITY.
WE KNOW THAT TOURISM ACTIVITY IN YELLOWKNIFE IS NOT THE SAME NOW AS IT WAS IN 2015.
RESTAURANTS HAVE ALSO BEEN IMPACTED BY THE DOWNTURN IN TOURISM, AND THEY TOO COULD BENEFIT.
I WILL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE RESULTS OF THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT STUDY DONE IN YELLOWKNIFE IN 2008.
IN ADDITION TO THESE, THIS STUDY.
SHOULD COUNCIL WISH TO REVIEW THESE IN GREATER DETAIL.
SHOULD THE CITY WISH TO DISCUSS TOURISM CONSIDERATIONS FURTHER, WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING ITI INTO THIS CONVERSATION TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION BEYOND THE ECONOMIC STUDIES WE ARE PRESENTING HERE TODAY.
TO BEGIN, PLEASE NOTE THAT IN 2008 ECONOMIC BENEFITS STUDY COMPLETED BY THE CANADIAN SPORT TOURISM ALLIANCE WAS JOINTLY FUNDED THROUGH THE CONTRIBUTIONS FROM HERITAGE CANADA AND THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE.
THE COMBINED SPENDING OF VISITORS AND THE HOST ORGANIZERS WAS IN THE RANGE OF 6.6 MILLION IN TOTAL.
FROM THE SUMMER, YOU CAN SEE THAT HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, GROCERY STORES, RETAILERS, CAR RENTALS AND GAS STATIONS WILL ALL BENEFIT TO SOME DEGREE BY HOSTING THE MAJOR EVENT LIKE THE 2026 ARCTIC WINTER GAMES.
IN 2016, THE ARCTIC WINTER GAMES ENDORSED THE EVALUATION AND OUTCOMES OF THE ARCTIC GAMES REPORT.
THIS STUDY ENGAGES IN A DISCUSSION OF THE WORTH OF THE ARCTIC WINTER GAMES.
OR WAS THE EVENT WORTH HOSTING? SURVEYS WERE USED TO SHOW HOW PARTICIPANTS, SPONSORS, VOLUNTEERS AND VISITORS AND NON VISITORS PERCEIVED THE BENEFITS FOR THEMSELVES IN THE COMMUNITY.
IF THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OUTWEIGHS THE INITIAL EVENT, COSTS MAY BE MISLEADING.
THE STUDY SURVEYED A LITTLE OVER 1600 PARTICIPANTS, SPONSORS, VOLUNTEERS AND VISITORS AND NON VISITORS AND ASKED THEM TO RATE VARIOUS STATEMENTS ABOUT DIRECT AND INDIRECT BENEFITS ON A SCALE OF 1 TO 5.
SO HERE'S A SUMMARY OF SOME OF THE OBSERVATIONS.
PARTICIPANTS FELT THAT THE ARCTIC WINTER GAMES ENABLED THEM TO EXPERIENCE NEW AND DIFFERENT THINGS, TO MEET NEW PEOPLE AND MAKE AND MADE THEM PROUD TO REPRESENT THEIR COUNTRY. THIS ALSO ENABLE PEOPLE TO COME TOGETHER AND CELEBRATE WAS AN EVENT FOR LOCALS TO BE PROUD OF AND ARE IMPORTANT FOR TOURISM IN THE ARCTIC REGION.
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OF THE COMPANY. THE ARCTIC WINTER GAMES ALSO MADE SPONSORS FEEL THAT THE ARCTIC WINTER GAMES PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE TO CELEBRATE.YOUTH SPORTS BROUGHT PRIDE TO THE LOCALS AND PROMOTED COMMUNITY BONDING.
THE ARCTIC WINTER GAMES ALSO MADE VOLUNTEERS FEEL THAT THEY WERE IMPORTANT CULTURAL EXCHANGE, PROMOTED COMMUNITY BONDING, AND SHOWCASED GREENLAND'S CAPACITY TO HOST THIS EVENT. THE STUDY ALSO INCLUDED SIMILAR RESULTS FOR BOTH VISITORS AND NON VISITORS.
GIVEN THE HIGH COST FOR TRANSPORTATION LITTLE AVAILABILITY TO GENERATE TICKET SALES LOCALLY AND THE LACK OF MASS MEDIA TO SUPPORT BRANDING AND MARKETING, GREENLAND KNEW THAT COMMUNITY BENEFITS WERE IMPORTANT, WHICH IS DEMONSTRATED THROUGH THIS VALUATION STUDY TO THE END.
THE GNWT AND THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE CONTINUE TO RECOVER FROM THE IMPACTS OF THE PANDEMIC.
SOCIAL GATHERING LIMITATIONS HAVE HAD AN IMPACT ON THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY OF YELLOWKNIFE AND RESTAURANTS, HOTELS, CAR RENTAL COMPANIES AND OTHER RETAILERS CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR STIMULUS THAT WILL SUPPORT THEIR BUSINESSES.
THROUGH OUR WORK IN SPORT AND RECREATION, WE KNOW THAT MANY SPORTS WERE EITHER SHUT DOWN OR SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED IN THEIR ABILITY TO DELIVER PROGRAMS. IN MANY CASES, WHEN SPORTS RECOVERED, THEY HAD TO MEET CONDITIONS ESTABLISHED THROUGH PUBLIC HEALTH ORDERS AND IN SOME CASES VOLUNTEERS WERE ASKED TO IMPLEMENT.
DESPITE SOME TIME THE PUBLIC HEALTH SINCE PUBLIC HEALTH LIMITATIONS HAVE BEEN LIFTED, WE KNOW THAT SOME OF THE LOCAL SPORT AND CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS CONTINUE TO EXPERIENCE VOLUNTEER CHALLENGES AND THAT ORGANIZATIONS CONTINUE TO NEED THE SUPPORT OF PUBLIC GOVERNMENTS TO SUSTAIN THE OPERATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.
IN A RECENT ARTICLE AND THERE IS A TYPO HERE.
THE ARTICLE WAS TITLED YUKON ART SCENE.
SO AHEAD OF THE NWT, IT SAYS ARTS ADVOCATES AND ARTISTS.
THIS WAS ANNOUNCED IN SEPTEMBER 22 BY THE COUNTY GAMES COUNCIL.
SO WHILE WE BELIEVE THAT HOSTING THE 2026 ARTICLE AND THE GAMES WILL BE AN EXCELLENT TEST EVENT, IT WOULD ALSO INFORM OUR ABILITY TO FORMALLY BID FOR THE 2035 COUNTY WINTER GAMES WITH YELLOWKNIFE AS THE HOST TO CONFIRM FOR COUNCIL.
WE DO NEED TO BRING FORWARD A FORMAL BID FOR THE COUNTY WINTER GAMES BY 2027.
OR EIGHT YEARS PRIOR TO THE HOSTING OF THAT EVENT.
SO THE 2026 ARTICLE AND THE GAMES SHOULD FIT NICELY IN THAT TIMELINE.
NORMALLY AT THIS STAGE OF PLANNING THE ARCTIC WINTER GAMES INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE IDENTIFY THE 2026 HOST JURISDICTION AND THEY WOULD LIKELY HAVE FORMED A HOST SOCIETY AND PERHAPS EVEN HIRED THE FIRST EMPLOYEE.
WORK COULD BEGIN ON THIS AS EARLY AS SUMMER 2023.
IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS, MACA WOULD LIKE TO RETURN A DECISION TO THE ARCTIC WINTER GAMES IN THE NEAR FUTURE, BUT CAN BE FLEXIBLE WITH THE CITY IN ORDER TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION ON THE QUESTION OF HOSTING THE 2026 ARCTIC WINTER GAMES.
MACA IS ACTIVELY WORKING ON A SCHEDULE TWO SCHEDULE TO PRESENT WITH ALL THREE EDUCATION AUTHORITIES ON WITH THEM ON THIS INFORMATION AND TO SEEK THEIR SUPPORT IN MAKING THE FACILITIES AVAILABLE PENDING THE OUTCOME OF THIS ENGAGEMENT WITH THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE AND THE THREE EDUCATION AUTHORITIES.
MINISTER THOMPSON WILL NEED TO SEEK FORMAL APPROVAL AND SUPPORT.
THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN IF THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE IS UNABLE TO PROCEED.
SHOULD THAT OCCUR, MINISTER THOMPSON WOULD NOTIFY THE GAME'S INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE OF THE DECISION, AND THE ARTIC WINTER GAMES INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE WOULD THEN NEED TO CONSIDER ALTERNATIVES.
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OF THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HOST THE 2026 ARCTIC WINTER GAMES.AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS IF.
FOLKS MIGHT NEED SOME TIME TO DIGEST AND SO WE CAN BRING THIS BACK TO A FUTURE GPC FOR A DECISION OF COUNCIL AND THEN AND THEN SUBMIT OUR ANSWERS. SO IT'S NOT THAT WE HAVE TO VOTE TODAY.
THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION.
SUBSEQUENTLY, THE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO RESPOND.
AND IT'S WELL TAKEN THAT THE SOCIETAL BENEFITS ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
WHAT WOULD SORT OF A MINIMUM CONTRIBUTION FROM THE CITY BE IN TERMS OF CASH TO FOR THE GNWT TO PROCEED? YEAH. YEAH.
THANK YOU. IN TERMS OF A MINIMUM AMOUNT, EVERY WHOLE SOCIETY IS DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF HOW THEY CONSTRUCT THEMSELVES, IN TERMS OF WHERE THEIR REVENUES COME FROM AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
TYPICALLY, WE WOULD SEE MUNICIPALITIES COME IN AT AROUND A HALF A MILLION WITH ADDITIONAL SUPPORT THROUGH FACILITIES AND IN-KIND, THROUGH STAFF AND INVOLVEMENT OF COUNCIL IN SUPPORT OF THE HOST SOCIETY OR SOME COMBINATION THEREOF.
THANKS. AND WOULD THERE ALSO BE SORT OF AN EXPECTATION THAT THE MACA AND THE GNWT AND THE CITY WOULD TAKE ON A LEADERSHIP ROLE WITHIN THE HOST SOCIETY, OR WOULD THE JWT BE ABLE TO TAKE ON A PRIMARY ROLE THERE? GARY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
AWKWARD FOR A GNWT LED HOST SOCIETY TO MANAGE AND DEVELOP PROGRAMING IN CITY FACILITIES WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO WORK COOPERATIVELY WITH THE CITY ON THAT ELEMENT.
WE UNDERSTAND CERTAINLY THAT WE WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE THE GENE.
WE WOULDN'T WANT THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE TO HAVE TO BURDEN THIS, TAKE THIS BURDEN THEMSELVES.
SO THE GNWT WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING TO DO OUR PART IN SUPPORTING THE WHOLE SOCIETY.
AND THAT WAS REALLY WE KIND OF REALLY SAW THAT MODEL IN 2018 WHEN THE GAMES WERE HOSTED IN THE [INAUDIBLE], AND THERE WAS A NEED FOR THE GENE TO CERTAINLY HOST BOTH HAY RIVER AND FORT SMITH THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
SO WE'D BE AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME, WE'D BE MORE THAN PREPARED TO OFFER A CO HOSTING APPROACH.
AND WOULD THE IDEA BE THAT THIS BE OVER MARCH BREAK SO THAT THE SCHOOLS ARE AVAILABLE, OR IS THAT DOWN THE ROAD PLANNING? GARY THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
WE'RE PRESENTING TO THE YELLOWKNIFE SCHOOL AUTHORITIES ON THE 23RD OF THIS MONTH.
WE WOULD TARGET THE SPRING BREAK TIME FRAME, AND WE'D BE ASKING FOR COLLABORATION, BOTH THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND THE EDUCATION AUTHORITIES TO CONSTRUCT THE SCHOOL BREAK AROUND THIS EVENT.
I THINK YOU SORT OF ALLUDED TO THIS IN TERMS OF LIKE THE CO HOSTING.
BUT WERE THERE ANY LESSONS THAT YOU TOOK FROM THE EXPERIENCE IN 2018 THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE APPLICABLE GOING FORWARD? GARY. I THINK THE SINGLE BIGGEST LESSONS THAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT MUNICIPAL COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN PROVIDING OVERSIGHT OVER THESE KIND OF EVENTS WHEN COUNCIL BECOMES DETACHED FROM THESE EVENTS.
AND IT'S JUST ANOTHER THING THAT HAPPENS IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
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THE ARCTIC GAMES INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE HAS VERY WELL DEVELOPED AND DETAILED STAGING MANUALS THAT LAY OUT EVERY CONSIDERATION FOR THIS EVENT.AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF EXPERIENCE.
SO WHEN WE GO FORWARD FOR THESE KIND OF EVENTS AND WE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE GOOD ADVICE GIVEN TO US, THEN WE CAN GET OURSELVES INTO PROBLEMS. SO THE TWO PIECES OF ADVICE I WOULD OR THE LESSONS LEARNED FROM 2018 IS, I WOULD SAY HAVING GOOD REPRESENTATION AND PARTICIPATION FROM MUNICIPAL COUNCIL AND WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE ARCTIC GAMES INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE.
GREAT. YEAH. THANKS FOR COMING FORWARD IN THE PRESENTATION.
COUNCILOR FEQUET? MERCI, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.
THE FIRST, WHERE DOES CONSULTATION WITH THE INDIGENOUS GOVERNMENTS FALL WITHIN THE PROCESS AND TIMELINES FOR THIS POTENTIAL HOSTING PROCESS? GARY. SO.
THE HOST IN THE ARCTIC WINTER GAMES IS NOT NECESSARILY A RIGHTS BASED DECISION FOR INTERNATIONAL OR FOR INDIGENOUS GOVERNMENTS. SO THERE IS NO FORMAL DUTY TO CONSULT IN THIS CASE.
HOWEVER, GIVEN OUR INTEREST IN TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION RECOMMENDATIONS AND OUR INTEREST IN WANTING TO HAVE MEANINGFUL PARTICIPATION OF INDIGENOUS GOVERNMENTS, WE WOULD VERY MUCH INVITE INDIGENOUS GOVERNMENTS FROM THIS REGION TO BE PART OF THE WHOLE SOCIETY.
NOW, WE HAVEN'T FORMED A WHOLE SOCIETY YET, OBVIOUSLY.
SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS APPROACH THIS DECISION IN A LOGICAL APPROACH, BEGINNING WITH THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE, WHO WOULD BE INTEGRAL TO THIS DECISION AND SCHOOL AUTHORITIES, WHICH WOULD ALSO BE INTEGRAL TO THIS DECISION.
SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR THINKING AT THIS TIME.
THIS ONE IS JUST MORE CURIOSITY.
THANKS. IN 2008, THAT FACILITY WAS, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, A VACANT BUILDING.
AND WE DO KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE ACTUALLY SOME LEASES IN THAT FACILITY THROUGH OUR OWN OPERATIONS.
IT'S JUST AT THIS POINT, WE THINK THAT THE FACILITY IS LIKELY OCCUPIED WITH CURRENT LEASES.
SO THAT WOULD BE A MAJOR PRIORITY THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS.
AND I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT THAT VENDOR COULD PROVIDE THAT FACILITY AT THIS POINT.
SO TO ME, IT'S AN OPEN QUESTION.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
SECOND, THE TREMENDOUS BENEFIT TO THE SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY THAT TAKES PLACE.
AND I ALSO WITNESSED A TREMENDOUS DRAW ON THE CITY RESOURCES AND DURING MY SHORT TIME AS A COUNCILOR SO FAR HAVE COME TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT DRAW IS ACTUALLY MUCH GREATER THAN THE PUBLIC WAS AWARE.
WHAT ARE THE TIMELINES THAT THE NWT MUST CONFIRM, YAY OR NAY AS FAR AS HOSTING WITH THE AWG INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE? SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY OFFER THAT THERE IS NO HARD DEADLINE ESTABLISHED BY THE ARTICLE IN THE GAME'S INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE THAT SAID.
WE ARE BEHIND SCHEDULE IN TERMS OF WHEN WE WOULD IDENTIFY A FUTURE HOST.
SO, YOU KNOW, IMMINENT DECISION IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS IS NOT REQUIRED.
THANKS FOR THAT. YEAH. JUST WONDERING HOW HOW HOT THE FIRE IS UNDER OUR FEET TO GET GOING.
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SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT'S VERY HELPFUL.THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR COCHRANE? THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANKS, GARY, AND TO YOUR COLLEAGUES FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
CAN YOU DEFINE WHAT YOU MEAN BY MINISTER THOMPSON WILL NEED TO SEEK FORMAL, FORMAL APPROVAL AND SUPPORT? WHAT DOES THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE, GARY? UM, SO I WOULD WITHOUT SAYING TOO MUCH, I WOULD SAY THAT MINISTER THOMPSON'S COLLEAGUES ARE AWARE THAT WE'RE TALKING TO THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE IN ORDER FOR US TO RETURN BACK.
WE WOULD NEED TO GO BACK AND SEEK AN APPROPRIATION THROUGH THE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT BOARD AND TO SEEK CONCURRENCE FROM CABINET THAT THEY SUPPORT HOSTING OF THIS AT THIS POINT. I WOULD SAY CABINET'S AWARE THAT THE INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE HAS REQUESTED THIS OF OUR GOVERNMENT AND THAT WE'RE ACTIVELY TALKING TO THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE.
SO AT THIS POINT, PENDING THE OUTCOME OF THESE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE AND OUR OTHER STAKEHOLDERS, CABINET WOULD THEN NEED TO CONSIDER IF WE HAVE PARTNERS AND WE'RE READY TO GO. THANK YOU.
SO EVEN IF WE DO SAY YES AND THE EDUCATION AUTHORITIES DO SAY YES.
IF CABINET CAN BASICALLY KILL THIS ON THE FLOOR OF THEIR CHAMBER, BASICALLY IT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
GARY. I WOULD SAY ANYTHING'S POSSIBLE.
CABINET IS FREE TO MAKE WHATEVER DECISION THEY WANT TO MAKE.
THAT SAID, CABINET IS WELL AWARE THAT WE'RE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS.
THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER? COUNCILOR PAYNE. THANK YOU, GARY.
SO WHAT? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? GARY. SO PRIMARILY, YOU KNOW, IN MY MIND I'M THINKING FINANCIAL RISK, RIGHT? AND I THINK THAT'S THE SINGLE BIGGEST CONSIDERATION ON THE TABLE FOR ANY POLITICAL BODY MAKING A DECISION IN THIS REALM.
SO THESE VARIABLES COULD INCLUDE THE NUMBER OF SPORTS THAT WE HAVE.
THEY COULD INCLUDE THE NUMBER OF ATHLETES THAT WE HAVE.
IT COULD INVOLVE SATELLITE COMMUNITIES, IT COULD NOT INVOLVE SATELLITE COMMUNITIES.
I WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW, THROUGH ACTIVE PARTICIPATION OF OUR GOVERNMENT AT THE END OF IT AND THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE, THAT WE COULD TAKE THE WHOLE FINANCIAL PLANNING PROCESS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE AND RUN THAT THROUGH A RISK MATRIX TO IDENTIFY WHERE OUR HIGH RISK AREAS ARE IN THAT AREA AND THEN MANAGE AND PLAN ACCORDINGLY AROUND THOSE HIGH RISK AREAS.
THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY HAS SIGNIFICANT EXPERIENCE IN THIS AREA AND THEY'VE PROVIDED SOME LATITUDE TO OUR MINISTER TO CONSIDER A VARIETY OF APPROACHES AS WE DECIDE WHAT A HOSTING MODEL WOULD LOOK LIKE IN THIS CASE.
SO GIVEN THE GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT ON THIS, COUPLED WITH OUR ABILITY TO PLAN AROUND THESE VARIABLES, GIVES US, IN MY MIND, THE LATITUDE TO MANAGE SOME OF THESE EXPENSES THAT COULD BE PROVIDE CONSTERNATION TO THE HOST.
THAT'S KIND OF MY THINKING. THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU AGAIN, GARY AND MINISTER THOMPSON AND TEAM FOR COMING TO PRESENT TODAY.
AND GARY, IF YOU JUST WANT TO ONCE YOU'RE DONE TALKING, JUST PUT IT OFF THE MIC.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, AGAIN.
SHOULD FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS BE BE OFFERED OR WHATEVER.
WE'D BE HAPPY TO RESPOND TO. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. OPENING IT UP TO DISCUSSION.
SO I WILL START WITH COUNCILLOR WARBURTON THEN MOVE THE WAY DOWN.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. IT WASN'T REALLY A QUESTION FOR ZENNER.
IT'S MORE OF SOMETHING FOR US TO BE COGNIZANT OF.
WE HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT PRESSURES ON ACCOMMODATION ALREADY IN THE CITY.
THESE AREN'T GOING TO GO AWAY EVEN WITH KIND OF NEW STUFF COMING ONLINE HERE.
AND WE HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT LABOR ACCOMMODATION ISSUES THAT ARE GOING TO KEEP GETTING WORSE WAS GIANT IN THOSE FOLKS KIND OF PEAKING AROUND THE SAME TIME THIS IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING. SO THIS IS ALSO A GENERAL CONSIDERATION FOR EVERYONE IS TO THINK ABOUT LIKE THE HOTEL CAPACITY MAY NOT BE WHAT YOU THINK IT IS WHEN WE GET THERE.
THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR MCLENNAN? THANKS. YEAH.
JUST A QUESTION FOR ADMINISTRATION UNDERSTANDING.
IT'S HYPOTHETICAL. LIKE 2026 COULD LOOK LIKE A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUT HOW CHALLENGING DOES CITY STAFF SORT OF FORESEE TAKING ON A LEADERSHIP ROLE HERE, ALONG WITH THE GNWT, AND SORT OF LIKE HOW MANY MEMBERS OF STAFF LIKE WOULD IT SORT OF PUSH OTHER PROJECTS TO THE BACK BURNER AND IF SO, FOR HOW WELL MIGHT NEED A BIT OF ANALYSIS.
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AND SO PENDING THE DISCUSSION TODAY, THAT COULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT ADMINISTRATION COME BACK TO, TO PRESENT A RECOMMENDATION AND INCLUDE FACTORS LIKE THAT.BUT MS. BASSI-KELLETT ANY INITIAL COMMENTS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE ASK.
BUT ALSO WE WANT TO GO IN EYES WIDE OPEN RIGHT NOW, AS MOST MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ARE AWARE, WE ARE KNEE DEEP, ANKLE DEEP KNOW, I SHOULD SAY, EYEBALL DEEP IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF OUR NEW AQUATIC CENTER.
FINGERS CROSSED. Q3 2024 SO WE ARE FULL ON WITH THAT CONSTRUCTION PROJECT RIGHT NOW.
IT'S TAKING A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY GIVEN THE SIZE AND MAGNITUDE AND COMPLEXITY OF THAT PROJECT.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW ON MANAGING THAT PROJECT.
WE'VE LOOKED BACK AS WELL AS WHAT WAS INVOLVED IN GAMES LIKE 2008.
CERTAINLY THAT IS WITHIN THE LIFESPAN OF MANY OF OUR STAFF THAT WE HAVE ON STAFF STILL IN 2023.
AND THEY WERE VERY EXCITING, THEY WERE GREAT GAMES.
WE REALLY ENJOYED THE WORK ON THOSE.
WE KNOW THAT THERE WERE THINGS THAT CAME UP WHERE WE DID NOT FORESEE THE KINDS OF DEMANDS ON OUR RESOURCES, THINGS INCLUDING THE REQUIREMENT OF OUR IT. I THINK THERE WERE TWO OF OUR MEMBERS OF OUR IT TEAM THAT ENDED UP WORKING ON THIS PRETTY MUCH FULL TIME FOR THE LAST 18 MONTHS OF PROJECT LEADING UP TO THE ACTUAL GAMES THEMSELVES. WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A VERY DIFFERENT CLIMATE AT THE TIME IN TERMS OF THE SPONSORSHIP CAPACITY WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND WITHIN THE NORTH.
SO THE QUESTION OF THE SPONSORSHIP IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT VERY, VERY CLOSELY, RECOGNIZING THAT THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT RELIANCE ON SPONSORS TO COME TO THE TABLE. PERHAPS WHAT I MIGHT DO IS I MIGHT ASK MR. WHITE, WHO WAS AROUND AT THE TIME AND WAS HEAVILY INVOLVED, ALONG WITH SOME OF THE OTHER PLAYERS IN THE CITY, IF HE HAS ANY OTHER PRELIMINARY COMMENTS AND BY ALL MEANS, WE WOULD WANT TO COME BACK TO HAVE A VERY BALANCED APPROACH IN TERMS OF WHAT WOULD BE GREAT AND GOOD AND POSITIVE ABOUT THIS, WITH ALSO THE EYES WIDE OPEN DEMANDS ON ON THE ORGANIZATION AND WHAT THIS COULD POTENTIALLY MEAN THAT MR. WHITE. THANK YOU, MS. BASSI-KELLETT. SO THINKING BACK TO BOTH 1998 AND 2008 AT THE OUTSET, AND OF COURSE I'M ONLY SPEAKING FROM THE COMMUNITY SERVICES STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE MYSELF AND THEN BOTH THE FACILITIES MANAGER AND THE PROGRAM MANAGER.
AT THE OUTSET OF THE PLANNING, WE WOULD BE COMMITTING A FEW HOURS A WEEK.
AND THEN AS IT GOT CLOSER AND CLOSER, THEN, MUCH LIKE THE AQUATIC CENTER IS NOW, IT WOULD BASICALLY DOMINATE OUR OUR DAYS AND OUR WEEKS UP TO LIKE THREE QUARTERS, IF NOT 100% OF OUR OUR WEEK WOULD BE FOCUSED ON THE GAMES.
AND THEN WE ALSO DRAW ON, AS MS. BASSI-KELLETT MENTIONED, MUCH OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
ALMOST EVERYBODY SITTING IN FRONT OF YOU HERE HAS A ROLE OF SOME SORT OR ANOTHER TO PLAY IN THE DEVELOPMENT MUCH ON THE WHOLE SOCIETY AND CERTAINLY ON THE VARIOUS SUBCOMMITTEES AS WELL.
THANKS FOR THE PRELIMINARY RESPONSE.
YEAH, I THINK JUST SORT OF GENERAL THOUGHTS.
COUNCILLOR FEQUET? ANY OTHER COUNCILOR OR DEPUTY MAYOR ARDEN-SMITH? I SEE.
FIRST OFF, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
WHEN I THINK OF THE ARCTIC WINTER GAMES, I THINK OF THE ATHLETES.
I REMEMBER BEING AT THE 98 ARCTIC WINTER GAMES AS A VOLUNTEER, AND I REMEMBER ATHLETES BEING HAPPY TO COME AND THE ACCOMMODATIONS BEING WITHIN THE SCHOOLS.
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ACCOMMODATIONS. I DO RECALL RECENTLY WE HAD ONE OF THE MANY TOURNAMENTS HAPPEN HERE IN YELLOWKNIFE, AND PARENTS AND ATHLETES WERE NOT CONTENT WITH THE ACCOMMODATIONS THAT WERE GIVEN.SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE THAT HAVING ATHLETES WITHIN SCHOOLS AND ON SLEEPING ON THE FLOOR OR WHATEVER HAVE YOU IS IS GOING TO BE ENOUGH THIS TIME AROUND.
WE HAVE TOURISM THAT IS NOW BOOSTING UP.
SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO ACCOMMODATE SUCH AN EVENT AS WELL AS CAPACITY BY THE CITY.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THREE YEARS TIME FROM NOW.
AND I MEAN, IF WE STAY ON COURSE WITH 2028, I MEAN, WE WOULD JUST BE STARTING TO ORGANIZE FOR THAT.
SO I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ABILITY FOR THE CITY TO ACCOMMODATE FOR FOR SOME OF THESE.
AND I'M HOPING TO TO GET SOME ANSWERS AND JUST SOME SOME NUMBERS BACK WOULD BE GREAT.
COUNCILLOR HENDRICKSEN? FOR MOST OF THAT. THE DEPUTY MAYOR SAID THINGS MUCH MORE ELOQUENTLY THAN I COULD AROUND THE ACCOMMODATION PIECE.
I GUESS THE OTHER THING I WOULD JUST SAY IS TO COUNCIL COLLEAGUES, IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE ANYWAY, BUT JUST I WOULD REALLY WANT TO SEE SOME, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN JUST ROUGH NUMBERS ON ESTIMATES OF WHAT THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BE LOOKING LIKE WHEN YOU LOOK AT SORT OF HOW THINGS ARE COSTED OUT FOR MAT-SU BOROUGH AND WOOD, BUFFALO IS SORT OF A SIMILAR THING BEFORE I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING GOING FORWARD BASED OFF OF EVERYTHING THAT MAYOR JUST SAID AND EVERY OTHER COUNCILOR HAS SAID THANKS.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? FOR MYSELF. I'LL PROVIDE SOME INITIAL COMMENTS TO.
SO YEAH, AS A LOT OF A LOT OF STUFF THAT FOLKS HAVE ALREADY SAID, BUT BASED ON THE EXAMPLE, THE BUDGETS OF THE 2023 AND 2024 GAMES, I'D SAY THAT THE ASK IS CLOSE TO 5 MILLION FOR THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNITY TO CONTRIBUTE.
AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE IF.
IF IT'S JUST THE MUNICIPALITY, THAT'D BE A 14.5% TAX INCREASE JUST TO HOST THE GAMES.
AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S OTHER INFLATIONARY PRESSURES.
SO THE TAX INCREASE WOULD BE EVEN MORE.
SO THAT WOULD BE A NONSTARTER FOR ME.
WE HAVE CLOSE TO $40 MILLION IN CAPITAL PROJECTS PER YEAR.
AND THEN IN 2026 WE'RE BACK TO OUR REGULAR 19 MILLION IN CAPITAL.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S HOW WE USE THE.
THE FURTHER WE GET OUT, THE MORE IT'LL GROW WHEN WE APPROACH THAT DATE.
SO EVEN WITH THE IDEA THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO FUNDRAISE SOME OF THAT TO REDUCE THE COSTS, BUSINESSES THAT ARE FACING STRONG HEADWINDS THIS YEAR, THEY FACE STRONG HEADWINDS LAST YEAR THEY'RE GOING TO FACE STRONG HEADWINDS THE COMING YEARS.
SO IT'LL BE A STRUGGLE ON THE BUDGET FRONT, BOTH MONEY OR STAFF TIME.
WE HAVE A LOT ON OUR PLATE AND EVERY TIME THAT WE ADD A NEW PROJECT, SOMETHING ELSE FALLS OFF.
AND I CAN'T SEE THIS BEING A PRIORITY THAT IS HIGHER THAN ANYTHING THAT'S ON OUR WORKPLAN RIGHT NOW, PARTICULARLY OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS, AGAIN, THE AQUATIC CENTER AND THE SUBMARINE LINE.
SO THE TIMING ON THIS [INAUDIBLE] ISN'T IDEAL.
THEY CAME TO THE CITY AND ASKED FOR SUPPORT FOR THAT.
THE 3.5 MILLION, SINCE EVERY TIME WE ASK FOR A BIT MORE FUNDING FOR OUR DRINKING WATER OR PROPERLY DISPOSE OF WASTE AND SEWAGE AND DELIVER RECREATION, THEY SAY THERE'S NO MONEY IN THE BUDGET.
SO AGAIN, I'D LOVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WAYS THAT IF THERE'S 3.5 OR 10 MILLION IN THE BUDGET, HOW WE CAN INCREASE RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES ACROSS THE GNWT. AND I KNOW THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE IS FREQUENTLY RAISED.
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BUT FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE OR FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE, IF THE GAMES ARE HELD IN APRIL, MAY OR JULY, THERE WOULD BE A POSITIVE ECONOMIC BENEFIT BECAUSE THOSE ARE THREE LOW MONTHS FOR HOTELS.BUT MARCH AND SEPTEMBER ARE BUSY TIMES FOR HOTELS CLOSING THE AROUND THE 90% CAPACITY.
IN SPORTS TOURISM VISITORS BASED ON THIS OR WINTER GAMES, VISITORS BASED ON THIS SPEND AROUND 950 PER VISIT, WHICH IS LESS THAN AURORA TOURISTS WHO SPEND BETWEEN 13 TO 1600 PER VISIT.
SO SEEING ALL THIS, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF PUTTING MY NAME FORWARD TO SIT ON A WORKING GROUP TO REVIEW THE ARCTIC WINTER GAMES AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON WAYS TO IMPROVE THEM IF THERE WAS AN INTEREST FROM THE ARCTIC WINTER GAMES INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE.
I THINK THEY NEED A WORKING GROUP THAT HAS DIVERSE VIEWS AND NOT JUST SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS.
THEY SHOULD STRIKE A WORKING GROUP THAT HAS SPORTS, MUNICIPALITIES, FEDERAL, INDIGENOUS AND TERRITORIAL REPS, ARTS AND CULTURE AND BUSINESS REPS, ALL THE GROUPS THAT ARE NEEDED TO MAKE THE GAMES A SUCCESS.
SHARE THEIR LIVED EXPERIENCE TO THE DECISION MAKING TABLE.
IF GAMES ARE NOW COSTING $10 MILLION PLUS 13 MILLION FOR ALBERTA, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE TOO BIG FOR ANY NORTHERN MUNICIPALITY TO HOST AND FOR THE GAMES TO CONTINUE.
THERE NEEDS TO BE A DEEP DIVE TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE IT CAN SURVIVE.
STAY TUNED FOR A RECOMMENDATION AND A BIT MORE ANALYSIS FROM FROM STAFF.
MS. BASSI-KELLETT ANYTHING OR RECOGNIZING A MEN'S WORK.
POSSIBILITY THE MEMO WOULD BE COMING FORWARD.
Q ON Q TWO, WHAT WOULD BE A FORECAST? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MADAM CHAIR, WE WOULD LOOK TO DO ANALYSIS THAT WE COULD BRING FORWARD TO COUNCIL AND WE WOULD AIM TO DO THAT EARLY IN ORDER TO WHICH WOULD BE IN APRIL.
THANK YOU. SEEING NOTHING FURTHER, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION AT THAT TIME.
[5. A memorandum regarding whether to proceed with the residential infill and densification development planning process to create new residential lots for development.]
CREATE NEW RESIDENTIAL LOTS FOR DEVELOPMENT.MS. BASSI-KELLETT IF YOU'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
ADMINISTRATION HAS SPENT TIME CONSIDERING THIS ISSUE, AND WE ARE PROPOSING SOME CURRENT AREAS WITHIN THE CITY TO START THE PROCESS TO OPEN UP FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, INFILL HOUSING. AND THAT'S WHERE WE USE SPACE THAT'S CURRENTLY ADJACENT TO EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE ROADS, PIPE WATER AND SEWER SERVICES, ET CETERA.
IS A GREAT WAY TO INCREASE RESIDENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES WHILE NOT INCREASING THE COSTS FOR THE MUNICIPALITY AND THEREFORE NOT INCREASING THE COST FOR TAXPAYERS. WHEN WE LOOKED AT WHAT LAND IS AVAILABLE, STAFF LOOKED AT VIRTUALLY ALL THE LAND THAT'S DEVELOPABLE.
AND WE USED INITIAL CRITERIA TO IDENTIFY THE LANDS THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED SOONER.
TODAY, THE PROCESS TO IDENTIFY THESE LANDS BEGINS.
AND IF GPC CONSIDERS AND IF COUNCIL AGREES.
CHANGE DOES NOT HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY.
THERE WILL BE A SERIES OF FORMAL STEPS THAT HAPPEN WITHIN OUR PLANNING AND LEGISLATIVE FRAMEWORKS.
I'M HAPPY RIGHT NOW TO TURN THINGS OVER TO MS. WHITE, OUR DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, WHO WILL WALK THROUGH A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THIS MEMO FOR GPC MEMBERS.
GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TODAY.
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SO BEFORE I MOVE INTO THE PRESENTATION, I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE PLANNING AND LAND STAFF.SO TOTS AND HIS DIVISION HAVE WORKED REALLY HARD TO PULL THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER.
AND AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE LARGE HOW MUCH LAND DO WE HAVE, WHERE DO WE HAVE IT? AND WE KIND OF SCALED IT DOWN FROM THERE.
SO ON THE MAPS THAT WERE ATTACHED TO THE MEMO, YOU'LL NOTICE NOT EVERY SINGLE PARCEL OF CITY LAND HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED ON THOSE MAPS FOR THAT CONSIDERATION. SO THERE ARE SOME PIECES MISSING.
THERE'S REASONS FOR THAT, AND I WILL ADDRESS IT HERE, BUT I JUST WANT TO IDENTIFY WE STARTED BIG.
SO TODAY WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR END GOALS.
WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO SEE AS WELL AS WHERE ARE WE NOW? WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE AND WHAT HAVE WE RECENTLY DONE AS WELL AS WHAT DO WE USE TO DO THE WORK WE DO WHEN WE PLAN? SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND THERE.
AND THEN WHAT PROCESS DOES THE PLANNING AND LANDS DEPARTMENT MOVE WHEN THEY LOOK AT LAND TO CREATE FOR DEVELOPMENT? SO IT'S BEEN MENTIONED AREA DEVELOPMENT PLANS, COMMUNITY PLAN, ZONING, BYLAW.
BUT THERE'S ALSO OTHER STUDIES STRATEGIES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY PREVIOUS COUNCILS THAT WE LOOK TO AS WELL AND RELY ON FOR SOME OF THAT BACKGROUND INFORMATION AS WELL AS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A QUICK CONVERSATION.
I KNOW THOSE MAPS WERE LARGE, SO I'VE CREATED INDIVIDUAL SLIDES FOR THE FIVE RECOMMENDED AREAS SO WE CAN LOOK AT THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH AND HAVE A HIGH LEVEL CONVERSATION ON WHAT THEIR CURRENT COMMUNITY PLAN DESIGNATION IS, AS WELL AS WHAT THEIR CURRENT ZONING IS.
SO ONE OF THE OUTCOMES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS TO PROVIDE AN INCREASE IN LAND SUPPLY.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CITY LAND AND WHAT DO WE HAVE THAT'S AVAILABLE.
CURRENTLY, WE AS THE CITY HAVE A LACK OF RESIDENTIAL LOTS FOR SALE FOR DEVELOPMENT.
WE ALSO HAVE SOME LAND THAT IS PARKLAND, OPEN SPACE.
WE HAVE LAND THAT IS ALSO UNDERUTILIZED, RIGHT? SO IT'S MAYBE IDENTIFIED IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN AS A RESIDENTIAL AREA, BUT IT JUST HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED AS OF YET.
SO WE TOOK A LOOK AT SOME OF THAT.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS SUPPORT NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT COULD BE AS MIXED USE, THAT COULD BE STANDALONE RESIDENTIAL.
WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THESE OPPORTUNITIES IN CONCERT WITH ONE ANOTHER.
SO WHEN THE CITY CREATES NEW PLANS OF SUBDIVISION, THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS TO DO IT.
THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
THEY LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND THEY ALSO COST DIFFERENT AMOUNTS OF MONEY.
SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT URBAN SPRAWL OR GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING NEW ROADS, BUILDING NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, EXTENDING SERVICES THAT WE ALREADY PROVIDE WITHIN THE BUILT UP AREA.
YES, THERE'S STILL MAINTENANCE, BUT WE'RE NOT LAYING OUT THAT THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO EXPAND AND EXTEND THOSE SERVICES, WHICH COST MORE MONEY NOT JUST UP FRONT, BUT OVER THE LONG TERM FOR THE MUNICIPALITY TO MAINTAIN.
BUT I ALSO WANTED TO NOTE THAT USING INFILL AND DENSIFICATION AS A CONSIDERATION FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, WORKING TOGETHER WITH SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON CURRENTLY IN THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
WE WERE DIRECTED BY COUNCIL IN 2022 TO LOOK AT THAT.
THAT'S NOT JUST FOCUSED ON THE DOWNTOWN BUT DOES INCLUDE A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT THERE AS WELL.
AND ON THE HIGH END THEY'RE SAYING 0.7%.
SO THAT'S NOT A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO.
AND IF WE LOOK AT THE MOST RECENT STATISTICS, WE'RE AT ABOUT 0.8%.
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SO WE ARE GROWING A LITTLE BIT FASTER THAN WHAT WAS PROJECTED.NUMBERS. THE GROWTH RATE FOR THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE IS ESTIMATED TO BE 1.5%.
SO THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE MOVEMENT.
SO CHANGES IN SITUATIONS SOMETIMES, WHETHER THAT'S THE FAMILY SITUATION OR JUST WE MAYBE HAD A LOT OF CHILDREN 15 YEARS AGO, THOSE CHILDREN MAY BE IN UNIVERSITY AND NOW ARE COMING BACK.
WE NEED TO CONSIDER WHERE ARE THEY STAYING? SO THEY'RE MORE THAN JUST LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS OF THE POPULATION GROWTH OVERALL.
AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT HOUSING IS CURRENTLY BEING BUILT.
AND REALLY RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING THERE IS BY PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS.
WE HAVE ABOUT 155 THAT ARE ONGOING.
THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE 123 SPECIAL CARE FACILITY UNITS.
AND IF WE WERE TO TRY AND HAVE WHAT IS BEST LAND USE PLANNING PRACTICE.
SO BEING ABLE TO KEEP THE HOUSING STOCK UP WITH THE POPULATION GROWTH AND JUST THE CHANGES IN THE POPULATION AND AND HOW WE'RE LIVING, WE'D BE NEEDING APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 300 TO 350 UNITS JUST TO CATCH UP TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
THAT'S NOT PROJECTING THE CONTINUED GROWTH, EVEN IF IT WAS AT 0.5%.
WE'RE LOOKING TO CATCH UP AND ALSO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE.
BECAUSE GOOD LAND USE PLANNING PRACTICE IS TO HAVE 2 TO 3 YEARS OF ZONED, DESIGNATED AND SUBDIVIDED LAND READY TO GO FOR THE MARKET SO YOU CAN SUPPORT THOSE EBBS AND FLOWS WITH POPULATION CHANGE.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, JUST AS THE CITY, WE HAVE ONE LOT AVAILABLE.
SO THAT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE TO TWO YEARS, LET ALONE THREE.
SO THE CITY HAS UNDERTAKEN A NUMBER OF POLICY UPDATES IN THE PAST FEW YEARS.
WE HAVE A RENEWED COMMUNITY PLAN THAT'S IN PLACE WHICH HAS A STRONG FOCUS ON INFILL DENSIFICATION USING WHAT WE HAVE MAKING THE BEST USE OF OUR ASSETS, AS WELL AS PROVIDING MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION COMMUNITY, DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS SUPPORTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S A WHOLE SLEW OF POLICY AND THERE THAT'S RECENTLY BEEN UPDATED.
SO THOSE ARE EITHER COMPLETED OR IN PROGRESS, AND THIS SHOULD BE SEEN AS WORKING TOGETHER WITH THAT.
THIS WORKS TOGETHER WITH OTHER PIECES THAT THE DEPARTMENT AND THAT THE CITY ARE WORKING ON.
ALREADY SPOKE ABOUT LAND INVENTORY A LITTLE BIT.
ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT AND WE HAVE THAT SUPPLY, THEN WE SHOULD BE LOOKING 15 YEARS OUT.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP.
SO JUST IF YOU'RE WONDERING WHERE WE'RE GOING NEXT.
THAT WOULD BE THE BEST LAND USE PLANNING PRACTICE.
AND CREATING LOTS THROUGH INFILL AND DENSIFICATION IS A FORM OF INCENTIVE AS WELL.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE BYLAW FOR THE DOWNTOWN AS WELL AS A FEW OTHER PROGRAMS. BUT BY DOING INFILL IT IS IN AND OF ITSELF AN INCENTIVE BECAUSE IT'S LESS COSTLY IT.
PUTTING NEW RESIDENTIAL INTO EXISTING AND ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND CREATES A COMMUNITY THAT HAS DIRECT ACCESS.
SO THE PROPERTIES, YOU'LL NOTICE ON THOSE MAPS, THEY'RE IN WALKING DISTANCE TO THE DOWNTOWN EMPLOYMENT AREAS, SCHOOLS, FACILITIES, GROCERY STORES, ALL OF THOSE. WE CONSIDERED THAT WHEN LOOKING AT THE LANDS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED.
AND WHAT IS THE PROCESS? AS WE KNOW, THIS IS STAGE ONE, PHASE ONE, DAY ONE.
WE'RE COMING TO YOU SAYING WE'VE IDENTIFIED A NEED.
SO TODAY IS NOT ABOUT REZONING THOSE PROPERTIES.
SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO FURTHER RESEARCH.
RIGHT. SO OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS, IS THIS FEASIBLE? CAN THIS BE DONE? THE TIMELINE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THIS ISN'T AN OVERNIGHT OR EVEN IN SIX MONTHS.
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AS WELL AS THEN.THEN WE HAVE TO GO TO THE GNWT WITH OUR PROPOSAL.
SO. SO THIS IS A LENGTHY PROCESS.
SO THE LAND FOR CONSIDERATION.
THERE WAS A NUMBER OF THEM THAT WERE PRESENTED ON THE MAPS AND INCLUDED IN THE REPORT, SOME OF THEM.
I THINK I PUT AN ASTERISK BESIDE ONE OF THEM BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF ACQUIRING IT.
HOWEVER, IT HAS NOT MADE THE LIST.
WE DON'T CURRENTLY OWN IT YET.
SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DIDN'T INCLUDE EVERY SINGLE CITY PROPERTY FOR SOME REASON.
SOME DON'T HAVE ACCESS, SOME AREN'T SERVICED, OR THEY'RE BEING USED FOR THE CITY FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
SO THESE ARE THE FIVE THAT WE HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION IF WE DID PUBLIC CONSULTATION, PLANNING ANALYSIS, THESE COULD LEAD TO RESIDENTIAL INFILL AND OR DENSIFICATION THROUGH OUT THE COMMUNITY OF YELLOWKNIFE.
THEY'RE KIND OF SPLATTERED ALL OVER FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
AND THIS ALSO ISN'T A PRIORITY.
SO IF WE TAKE TAYLOR ROAD AS AN EXAMPLE, THAT IS A VERY LONG PROCESS COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES WHICH DON'T REQUIRE THAT COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT. SO SPECIFICALLY.
I'M JUST GOING TO GO. ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE.
BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT IN THAT SPECIFIC ORDER OF PRIORITY.
SO THE CURRENT DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
SORRY, THE COMMUNITY PLAN DESIGNATION IS THAT IT IS DOWNTOWN CENTRAL RESIDENTIAL.
IT HAS TWO ROAD FRONTAGES ACTUALLY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE OPEN SPACE OR PARKLAND IF REDEVELOPED, AS WELL AS IT IS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OR MULTIMODAL DISTANCE AS WELL AS DRIVING DISTANCE IF THEY WANTED TO.
SO THIS IS A VERY CENTRAL PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.
SCHOOL DRAW. WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT A LARGER PORTION OF LAND HERE.
HOWEVER, WITHIN THE CRITERIA WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHAT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW IS.
POTENTIALLY AVAILABLE TO BE DEVELOPED.
SO DOWN THE WEST SIDE, THEY DO HAVE TWO DIFFERENT COMMUNITY PLAN DESIGNATIONS.
SO I GUESS WHAT IS THE NUMBER ONE THAT IS CENTRAL RESIDENTIAL? AND ON THE OTHER SIDE IT IS OLD TOWN.
BOTH ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
ONE PORTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOWN AS NIVEN LAKE.
SO THIS IS. FRANKLIN IS TO THE SOUTH.
AND YOU'RE DRIVING UP FROM FRANKLIN ON NIVEN DRIVE.
SO THE FIRST PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY NUMBER THREE.
SO I KNOW I CAUGHT NUMBER FIVE IN THIS CLIP, BUT NUMBER THREE IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.
AND YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE MAP, SIX IS BESIDE IT AS A MORE COMPREHENSIVE AREA.
AND THIS IS ALSO DESIGNATED NIVEN RESIDENTIAL.
SO THERE'S A FEW COMMUNITY PLAN DESIGNATIONS HERE.
AND THIS THIS PROPERTY, THESE PROPERTIES WOULD REQUIRE A LOT MORE PLANNING.
SO THERE BE COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENTS REQUIRED FOR THIS.
UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE REMEDIATED AND OR ADJACENT TO REMEDIATED CON MINE AREA.
SO THE CON MINE IS TO THE SOUTH AND SOUTH EAST OF THE PROPERTIES.
THESE DO FRONT ON OR ARE ADJACENT TO MUNICIPAL SERVICES.
THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT HERE.
THIS WOULD DEFINITELY BE MORE ON THE DENSIFICATION SIDE.
SOME OF IT IS INFILL BECAUSE IT IS BETWEEN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, BUT THIS WOULD BE MORE OF, I GUESS IN BETWEEN THAT DENSIFICATION NEW PLAN, A SUBDIVISION REALM. LOTS OF THINGS TO CONSIDER HERE.
AS I MENTIONED, THIS WOULD BE MORE ON THE 3 TO 4 YEAR TIME FRAME, NOT THE 1 TO 2 YEAR.
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WE'RE MEETING TO CONSIDER IT SO.DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH.
THESE LANDS HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN DESIGNATED FOR A LONG TIME FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND AS I'M SURE EVERYONE IS AWARE, NIVEN HAS KIND OF PROGRESSED THROUGH TIME AND WE ARE NOW AT THIS POINT IN THAT SUBDIVISION, EIGHT PHASES, I BELIEVE IN TOTAL WERE CREATED.
SO HERE AGAIN, WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT SPLITTING IT UP.
SO THAT'S THE DESIGNATION WHICH IDENTIFIES IT'S FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
I'M SURE THERE ARE PLENTY OF QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. AND THANKS TO STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK GETTING US TO THIS STAGE.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS WHO HAVE COME AND REQUESTED TO SPEAK.
FIRST OFF, I HAVE LINDSAY ARMOR.
LINDSAY, IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING THAT, JAMES AND JILL BANCROFT.
IS CLAIRE HERE? NO. AND THEN SO WE'LL HAVE LINDSAY AND THEN WE'LL HAVE LYLE AND THEN ANYBODY ELSE WHO IS ANY OF THE OTHER MEMBERS IN THE PUBLIC LOOKING TO SPEAK.
LINDSAY, I'LL PASS THE FLOOR OVER TO YOU.
SO IT'S THAT LITTLE. THERE YOU GO.
I'VE HEARD A FEW TERMS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET IT RIGHT.
JUST TO START OFF, I WANT TO EXTEND APPRECIATION TO COUNCIL AND TO THE CITY ADMINISTRATION FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT THEY'VE PUT INTO THIS MEMO AND ALSO THE PRESENTATION. IT ACTUALLY ANSWERS SOME OF MY QUESTIONS THAT I HAD.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE DEDICATION OF THE STAFF AND COUNCIL TO LISTEN TO RESIDENTS AND HEAR OUR CONCERNS AND THEN TAKE OUR CONCERNS INTO FURTHER CONSIDERATION.
I GUESS I'M HERE TODAY VERY EARLY ON IN THIS PROCESS TO INDICATE VERY STRONG INTEREST IN NOT DEVELOPING THE BURWASH AND CONN GREEN SPACE. AND I'LL ALSO READ A STATEMENT FROM JAMES AND JILL BANCROFT, OUR NEIGHBORS.
THEY HAD TO LEAVE AND GO BACK TO WORK.
BUT ALSO JUST IN GENERAL, WITH ALL OF THE PROPOSALS PUT FORWARD, WHAT WHAT ADDITIONAL THOUGHT COULD BE PUT INTO LOOKING OUTSIDE OF THE CITY? I KNOW THERE'S THERE'S PLANS, BUT THE GREEN SPACES THAT WE HAVE AROUND, EVEN AROUND OUR AREA, ARE PRETTY CRUCIAL TO FAMILIES IN THE AREA. WHEN I ASKED MY DAUGHTER ABOUT, HEY, DO YOU WANT TO HAVE SOME APARTMENTS NEXT DOOR OR SOME TOWNHOMES NEXT DOOR, THEN SHE SAID, WELL, WHERE AM I GOING TO PLAY WITH MY FRIENDS IN NATURE? SHE'D HAVE TO GO TOO FAR AND I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE AN ADULT WITH HER.
BUT IN THIS CASE, IT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
IT'S IN OUR BACKYARD FOR MANY OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA.
SO IT HOLDS A LOT OF VALUE IN THAT SENSE.
AND THAT'S A GOOD SEGUE TO TO JAMES AND GILLIAN'S STATEMENT, WHICH I'M GOING TO READ INTO.
I'M GOING TO SAY MY NAME IS JAMES BANCROFT.
IT'S NOT. I GREW UP ON 55TH STREET AND NOW LIVE ON 56TH STREET.
IT IS HEAVILY USED AS A GREEN SPACE BY ALL AND THE ELIMINATION OF THIS CHERISHED AREA FOR ALL.
THERE'S PLACE SCHOOLS IN CHILDREN THAT USE THE AREA.
THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE HAS THE LUXURY OF SPACE.
HOWEVER, WE KEEP TRYING TO CRAM MORE AND MORE INTO EVERY SQUARE INCH OF THE CITY WHILE COMPLETELY IGNORING OUR EXPENSE AND OUR ABILITY TO GROW AS A CITY AND CREATE A BEAUTIFUL CITY THAT MORE PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO CALL HOME.
MANY OF THE PLANNED SITES ON THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT PLAN I FULLY SUPPORT.
PEOPLE CHOOSE TO LIVE HERE BECAUSE OF THE LIFESTYLES THAT THE LAND AROUND US OFFERS.
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AND HIS FINAL STATEMENT WAS, LET'S KEEP THIS CITY GROWING IN THE RIGHT WAYS FOR THE RIGHT REASONS.UM, SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS.
I DID SEND AN EMAIL TO COUNCIL, SO I HOPE I DON'T NEED TO READ THAT ONE INTO THE RECORD.
AND I HAVE ONLY 5 MINUTES, SO I'LL KEEP IT SHORT.
BUT I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE, THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT BUDGETS AND BUDGET CONCERNS AND MAYBE JUST TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO DO THE CONSULTATION TO POTENTIALLY REZONE AND SUBDIVIDE THESE AREAS.
AND MAYBE IF YOU HAVE RESIDENTS LIKE US WHO ARE SAYING, YEAH, WE'RE NOT REALLY SUPPORTIVE AT THIS POINT, IS IT WORTH INVESTING THE TIME AND EFFORT OF CITY ADMINISTRATION AND TAX DOLLARS TOWARDS EXPLORING THAT AS AN OPTION AND CONSIDERING A BENEFIT COST ANALYSIS WHEN THERE IS ALREADY OPPOSITION LIKE THIS TO PARTICULAR AREAS? IS IT WORTH THE EFFORTS OF CITY ADMIN WHEN THEY'RE CLEARLY TAXED ALREADY TO DO THIS ADDITIONAL WORK AND THOUGHT THAT'S IT.
NO FANCY POWERPOINT, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING.
AND I WOULD NOTE AND I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT FOR FOLKS TO GET THE LUNCH HOUR OFF PENDING OUR DISCUSSION TODAY, WE'D BE BRINGING THE MOTION FORWARD TO DIRECT STAFF TO BEGIN THE WORK NEXT MONDAY AT 7 P.M..
SO FOLKS ARE WELCOME TO COME BACK, YOURSELF INCLUDED.
SO ONE OF THE PHASES IS GOING TO BE AN AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AND PART OF AN AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS THAT YOU IDENTIFY WHERE THE LOTS ARE GOING TO BE.
YOU COULD IDENTIFY THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE THE NATURAL AREA.
THIS IS GOING TO BE WHERE A TRAIL IS.
THIS IS WHERE PLAYGROUND IS GOING TO BE.
THAT WOULDN'T REALLY BE RELEVANT HERE.
BUT IF I LOOK AT THIS PARCEL, THERE'S SOME STRIP OF LAND.
AND THERE'S KIND OF SOME SOME STRIP AROUND.
WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO HAVING THE RESIDENTIAL ALONG THERE WHILE MAINTAINING THE THE BLOCK OF ROCK IN THE MIDDLE WITH ENOUGH ACCESS SO THAT FOLKS CAN CAN ACCESS IT TO STILL CLIMB IN IT THAT IT'S NOT THE EXCLUSIVE BACKYARD OF PEOPLE THAT ALIGN WITH IT.
AND I THINK WE CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF OUR FAMILY DISCUSSIONS.
BUT I THINK IT IT DETRACTS FROM THE OVERALL ATMOSPHERE OF THE AREA.
THANK YOU. I KNOW THERE'S IT'S KIND OF HOW NIVENS CREATED TWO.
THERE'S A ROCK THAT ALL THE HOUSES GO AROUND BUT APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK.
AND YOU OKAY WITH THAT? LYLE IF YOU WANT TO COME ON UP TO THE MIC.
LYLE FABIAN AND SPEAKING TO THE SIMILAR PARCEL.
SO AND IF YOU JUST WANT TO PUSH THE MIC BUTTON THERE, YOU.
OKAY. THERE WE GO. HELLO? HI, MAYOR. COUNCIL.
I'M SO USED TO SAY FROM COUNCIL.
I'M A RESIDENT OF YELLOWKNIFE SINCE 2012 13.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAD A HUGE ISSUE BACK IN 2009, AN ONGOING ATTEMPT OF COMMERCIALIZING AND BUILDING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ON THE AREA.
AND FOR THEM, ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THEY STATED TO US IN REGARDS TO SELLING THE HOME TO US WAS THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WOULD BE COMMITTED TO NOT HAVING THE AREA IN DEVELOPMENT.
YOU KNOW, WE YOU KNOW, WE TALK TO THE ESCALANTE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I MYSELF COME FROM A, YOU KNOW, A SMALL FIRST NATION COMMUNITY WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A HUGE PARCEL OF LAND.
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AND KEEPING A GREEN SPACE FOR CHILDREN TO GROW UP IN HAS ALWAYS BEEN PART OF MY CULTURE.AND NOW WE HAVE CHILDREN HERE IN YELLOWKNIFE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S PART OF THEIR CULTURE.
WE HAVE A TEEPEE IN THE BACKYARD.
YOU KNOW, WE ALL SHARE THE SAME SPACE.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GO OUT THERE TO TAKE PHOTOS OF THE AURORA BOREALIS.
FAMILIES GO OUT THERE TO TO LOOK AT THE KNOW THE YEARLY FIREWORKS FOR NEW YEAR'S EVE.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALWAYS SAID WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE GREEN SPACE AND THE LOCAL AREA, YOU KNOW, HAS ALWAYS BEEN IMPORTANT TO NOT ONLY TO MYSELF AND MY FAMILY, BUT ALSO OTHER FAMILIES IN THE AREA.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE ALWAYS SEEN WAS THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LOCALIZED DAYCARE, YOU KNOW, HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SO RESPECTFUL OF THE AREA, YOU KNOW, COMING TO THE HOMEOWNERS AND ASKING, YOU KNOW, IF, YOU KNOW, EVERY SPRING AND THEY'VE DONE IT FOR THE PAST, YOU KNOW, SINCE THE PANDEMIC TO TO HOST AN OUTDOOR, YOU KNOW, CHILDREN'S GATHERING WITH FAMILIES IN THE AREA.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY STILL DO IT.
AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS REALLY APPRECIATED LIVING BY A GREEN SPACE BECAUSE I'VE BEEN SURROUNDED BY GREEN SPACE FOR THE MAJORITY OF MY LIFE, YOU KNOW, LIVING AND BEING BORN AND WILL DIE HERE IN THE NORTH.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'VE WE'VE.
COMMITTED TO THE ESCALANTE'S THAT DEVELOPMENT OF THE BURWASH ROAD IS NOT A BENEFIT FOR EXPANDING CONTINUOUSLY THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE PROPERTIES.
AND YET THERE'S OTHER AREAS THAT ARE CURRENTLY.
YOU KNOW, DO NEED EXPANDING, DO NEED MORE INVESTMENT.
AND I DON'T THINK KONRAD AND BURWASH AREA FITS THAT THAT BENEFIT BECAUSE IT ALREADY IS A BENEFIT FOR LOCALIZED RESIDENTS IN AND AROUND THE AREA.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER? COUNCILOR PAYNE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR COMING IN AND PRESENTING.
SO EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS PRESENTED TODAY IS SOMEBODY'S SPECIAL PLACE.
WHAT WOULD YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS BE ON HOW WE DECIDE WHICH LAND THAT WE WOULD DEVELOP, SHOULD IT BE? HOW MANY PEOPLE COME IN TO SPEAK TO IT? SHOULD IT BE EASE OF DEVELOPMENT? SHOULD IT BE, YOU KNOW, BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK? WHAT WOULD YOU WHAT WOULD YOU TELL US? A CITY COUNCILORS? WELL, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS EXISTING LANDS OUT THERE IN AND AROUND AND CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN THAT ARE BEING UNDERUTILIZED OR HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY FIRE AND ARE NOT BEING CURRENTLY USED.
AND AND YET THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT.
YOU KNOW, THE WOMEN'S SHELTER WAS A GREAT BENEFIT, YOU KNOW, FOR FOR THAT AREA IN AND AROUND SCHOOL DRAW AND YET THAT BUILDING BURNED DOWN AND YET THERE'S NO REINVESTMENT IN THAT AREA.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY TO CONCENTRATE ON AREAS OF THAT.
AND NOT OWNED BY THE CITY, THOUGH.
I APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN AND SPEAKING TO IT.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER? AGAIN. THANKS FOR COMING IN LOL.
SO I KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD KNOWS ZONING AND PLANNING QUITE WELL.
SO. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU, COUNSEL.
THANK YOU. WE'VE REACHED THE 90 MINUTE MARK ON THE DOT, SO LET'S TAKE A TEN MINUTE BREAK.
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AND WHEN WE RECONVENE, WE'LL START WITH QUESTIONS TO ADMINISTRATION, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO DISCUSSIONS.SO IF WE CAN COME BACK AT 1:40 P.M., THAT'D BE GREAT.
OK. WE'LL CALL OUR MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
SO OPENING IT UP TO QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.
COUNCILOR. LET'S GO WITH COUNCILOR MCLENNAN AND THEN COUNCILOR WARBURTON.
YEAH. REALLY THRILLED TO SEE THIS COME FORWARD.
AND THANK YOU TO CITY STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK PUT INTO THIS.
THE YEAH, THE AGENDA IS REALLY GOOD AND THE PRESENTATION IS AWESOME AND.
JUST WE UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH WORK HAS GONE INTO THIS, SO THANK YOU.
SO I HAVE A FEW GENERAL QUESTIONS.
ONE OF THESE IS THE HISTORICAL USE OF THE LAND.
DID THIS INCLUDE CONSULTATIONS WITH INDIGENOUS GROUPS? MS. BASSI-KELLETT, MISS WHITE.
JUST IN GENERAL, WE WOULD UNDERTAKE CONSULTATION.
WHAT I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT IS SOMETIMES THERE MAY ACTUALLY BE AN OVERLAP OR A TWO PART PROCESS BECAUSE IF WE ARE OBTAINING LAND FROM THE N.W.T., THEY UNDERTAKE A CONSULTATION AND WE WOULD AS WELL.
BUT YES, IN GENERAL WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS.
SO I'LL ASK MS.. WHITE IF THERE'S BEEN ANYTHING, BUT I WOULD SUSPECT NOT.
AND IN TERMS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT FUND AND WITH RISING COSTS, ARE THERE ANY FORESEEN ISSUES PURSUING ANGLE CAM LAKE AND THIS INFILL DEVELOPMENT AT THE SAME TIME? MS. BASSI-KELLETT. MISS WHITE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.
YES. SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT ARE ONGOING WITH REGARDS TO DEVELOPMENT.
SO IF WE TALK ABOUT ENGLE PHASE TWO, WHICH WAS JUST RECENTLY APPROVED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, WE ARE AT THE FINAL STAGES OF THAT LAST ROAD OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE COSTS FOR THAT ARE ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR AND ARE GOING TO BE OFFSET BY THE PROCEEDS FROM THE PREVIOUS LOT SALES AND THAT IS ONGOING FOR 2023. THE CAM LAKE IS SIMILAR TO, AS I DESCRIBED EARLIER, THE TAYLOR ROAD.
THERE'S A LENGTHY PLANNING PROCESS THAT WILL NEED TO GO THROUGH AND IF WE INITIATE IT IN 2023, THAT'S ABOUT A AGAIN, TWO OR THREE YEAR TIMELINE BEFORE THOSE LANDS ARE ONLINE.
SO WE DID CONSIDER WHAT THAT OVERLAP LOOKS LIKE, WHAT THOSE COSTS COULD BE, AND THERE COULD ACTUALLY BE, DEPENDING ON INFRASTRUCTURE OR DEVELOPMENT REQUIRED, SOME COST BENEFIT TO PACKAGING TOGETHER.
AND JUST A COUPLE OF SORT OF MORE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, JUST FOR MY OWN UNDERSTANDING IS WOULD LOTS BE SOLD AT AT MARKET VALUE AND WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR CONNECTING NEW DEVELOPMENT TO EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE? MS. BASSI-KELLETT MS..
WHITE. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A GOOD QUESTION.
I'M SURE SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MIGHT BE WONDERING AS WELL.
SO OUR LAND ADMINISTRATION BYLAW OUTLINES HOW WE PRICE AND HOW WE SELL LOTS ONCE WE CREATE THEM.
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AND SO WE HAVE AN ACTUAL THIRD PARTY APPRAISER WHO PROVIDES US WITH WHAT THOSE VALUES ARE.THE PROCEEDS ARE THEN PUT INTO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT FUND AND WE RECYCLE IT AND USE THAT FOR A NEXT DEVELOPMENT OR INFRASTRUCTURE OR SOMETHING TO DO WITH LAND ADMINISTRATION.
AND THE SECOND QUESTION WAS, SORRY, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR CONNECTING TO EXISTING EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE? GREAT. THANK YOU. SO IT WOULD BE THE PURCHASER OF THE PROPERTY WOULD DO THE CONNECTIONS.
RIGHT ON. THANK YOU. AND SO ONE OF THE ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF IN-FILL DENSIFICATION LISTED IN THE AGENDA WAS SORT OF DIVERSE FINANCIAL OPTIONS, SORT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
HOW WOULD WE USE THESE LOTS TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING? SO WHAT TOOLS CAN WE USE AND IN WHAT STAGE WOULD THAT BE ADDRESSED? MS. BASSI-KELLETT THE LOTS WILL BENEFIT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OVERALL, BUT I'LL ASK MS..
WHITE IF SHE CAN SPEAK TO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ON THE CONTINUUM.
GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
SO WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A DEFINITION OF WHAT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO IF WE LOOK AT THE MOST RECENT CHANGES TO THE ZONING BYLAW, ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THE ZONES THAT ARE NOW IN PLACE IN THE CITY IS WE NO LONGER HAVE ZONES THAT ARE STRICTLY ONLY SINGLE DETACHED DWELLINGS.
SO CREATION OF LOTS IN ANY OF THESE LOCATIONS, WHETHER THAT'S THEN ZONED INTO THE R C, R TWO, R ONE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE THAN ONE DWELLING TO BE ON THE LOTS, WHETHER THAT'S A SUITE IN THE BASEMENT, A STRAIGHT UP DUPLEX OR A DUPLEX WITH A SUITE IN A SECONDARY STRUCTURE IN THE BACK.
WE'VE CREATED VERSATILITY AND OPTIONS THROUGH THE NEW ZONING BYLAW THAT WILL HELP TO FACILITATE.
SO IF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR A MULTIGENERATIONAL HOME OR ARE LOOKING FOR A HOME IN AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD BUT MAY NEED HELP WITH THOSE MORTGAGE PAYMENTS, THERE'S NOW OPTIONS AVAILABLE FOR THAT TO BE FACILITATED.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME, BUT YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO GET TO THAT.
SO YOU MENTIONED IT WAS GREAT TO HEAR THE NUMBERS DURING YOUR PRESENTATION.
SO 155 BUILDINGS ONGOING SORT OF NEED ROUGHLY THREE 300 TO 350 TO KEEP UP WITH POPULATION GROWTH.
IS THIS SORT OF GOING TO GET US UP TO THAT 300 SORT OF THESE LOTS OR ARE WILL BE LOOKING TO DO MORE JUST BASICALLY TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF WHERE WE'RE AT IN TERMS OF MEETING THAT 350 GOAL MS. BASSI-KELLETT MS..
WHITE THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, 155 IS NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS, NOT NUMBER OF BUILDINGS.
SO SOME OF THOSE ARE IN 60 OR 40 UNIT BUILDINGS.
SO SORRY, JUST TO CLARIFY, SO IS THIS GOING TO GET US TO KIND OF THE END OF THE CATCH UP? HOPEFULLY SO.
SO SOME OF THESE LANDS MAY NOT BE FULLY DEVELOPED AT 100%.
SO THEN NO, WE WOULDN'T GET TO THAT.
350 BUT THAT GOES BACK TO WE NEED TO BE THINKING LONG TERM SO NOT JUST ABOUT CATCH UP, BUT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO NEED GOING FORWARD? AND YOU KNOW, IS OUR NEED GOING TO CONTINUE AT THE RATE THAT IT IS NOW BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S THERE NOW? THANK YOU. THANKS.
AND IT STATED THAT THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL.
BUT WOULD ANY OF THESE FIVE PROPOSED AREAS BE CONSIDERED FOR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS? MS. BASSI-KELLETT YES, THEY WOULD.
BUT YES, MIXED USE IS A POSSIBILITY OR IS POTENTIALLY AVAILABLE IN SOME OF THESE AREAS.
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I THINK THAT'S ALL MY GENERAL QUESTIONS.I HAVE A BUNCH ON THE SPECIFIC LOTS, BUT I CAN RELINQUISH THE MIKE AND DO THAT AS A SECOND.
NO, I'LL JUST. I'LL JUST KEEP GOING.
YEAH. THANKS TO THE PRESENTERS WHO CAME IN AND SPOKE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS AREA.
SO TAKING A TOUR AROUND ALL THESE FIVE PROPOSED AREAS AND SOME OF THE FURTHER SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE ON THE WEEKEND, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THIS AREA, BURWASH KHAN, IS A WELL-USED RECREATION AREA.
AND READING THROUGH THE NATURAL AREA PRESERVATION STRATEGY FOR THE CITY FROM 2009 STATES, THAT 100% OF THIS SPACE NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED AS GREEN SPACE IN ORDER FOR THE AREA TO MEET ITS LOCAL NATURAL AREA TARGETS.
WHY, THEN, HAS THIS AREA BEEN CONSIDERED FOR DEVELOPMENT? MS. BASSI-KELLETT. MS..
YES. SO THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE STUDIES THAT I REFERRED TO EARLIER TODAY, WHERE WE TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WAS DONE IN THE PAST AND WHAT INFORMATION WE DO HAVE AVAILABLE, THE FEASIBILITY AND THE EASE TO WHICH DEVELOPMENT COULD OCCUR ON THIS SITE IS WHAT HAS BROUGHT IT TO THE FOREFRONT FOR CONSIDERATION.
AGAIN, THAT'S NOT A PRIORITY LIST.
SO THAT STUDY DOES ALSO IDENTIFY, I BELIEVE, TO THE COUNSEL OF THE TIME THAT SOME CONSIDERATION AND HARD DECISIONS WILL NEED TO BE MADE BY COUNCIL WHEN LOOKING AT INFILL, BECAUSE THAT STUDY DOES DIRECTLY SPEAK TO INFILL AND SPEAKS TO SOME OF THE PROPERTIES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
SO YOU'RE RIGHT, IT DOES SAY 100% OF THIS PROPERTY SHOULD BE KEPT FOR NATURAL AREAS.
HOWEVER, WE'RE MUCH FURTHER ALONG AND POTENTIALLY IN GREATER NEED THAN WE WERE IN 2009.
SO THAT IS A CONSIDERATION FOR COUNCIL.
AND SO WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY THAT SORT OF EASE OF ACCESS AND DEVELOPMENT IS SORT OF A HIGHER PRIORITY THAN MAINTAINING GREEN SPACE IN THIS CASE? JUST BECAUSE NUMBER EIGHT RESERVOIR ROAD, CBC LOT IN THAT STUDY SAID THAT 50% COULD BE DEVELOPABLE AND THAT'S NOT BEEN INCLUDED IN THE FIRST SET, WHEREAS THIS ONE HAS MS. BASSI-KELLETT. MS..
THANK YOU. ANY CHANCE TO GET THOSE REASONS? MS. BASSI-KELLETT MS..
SO WITH REGARDS TO BURWASH, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT NOT JUST ACCESS WHAT ARE THE SERVICES, MUNICIPAL SERVICES, HOW AVAILABLE ARE THEY, WHAT CONDITION ARE THEY IN, WHAT AND THIS ISN'T JUST SORRY, AND I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT SEWER AND WATER.
RIGHT. SO WE'VE GOT CAN WE GET THERE WITH FIRE TRUCK? CAN WE GET THERE WITH AN AMBULANCE? RIGHT. IS IT CLOSE TO SCHOOLS? CAN YOU WALK TO A GROCERY STORE? SO WE TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE CONSIDERATIONS.
IS IT A SAFE ROAD FOR PEOPLE TO CROSS? FRANKLINS PRETTY BUSY, RIGHT? SO THERE ARE SOME OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, NOT JUST TOPOGRAPHY, AS TO IS IT EASY TO PUT A HOUSE OR A DWELLING ON IT THERE? I MEAN, TECHNICALLY YOU CAN ENGINEER ANYTHING, RIGHT? BUT THERE'S ALWAYS COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
SO THERE WERE SOME SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE BURWASH CON AND THE OTHER SITE.
YEAH, THANKS VERY MUCH. FOR THE SPECIFIC REASONS.
AND JUST SO HOW ARE DENSITIES AND CHARACTER OF DEVELOPMENT WITHIN EACH PARCEL DETERMINED? JUST WITH THIS ONE, IT'S SORT OF ADJACENT TO OUR ZONING AND OUR C ONE.
DOES ADMINISTRATION HAVE SOME IDEAS OF WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE IT TO BE, AND WHEN IS THAT SORT OF SET? IS IT PART OF THE THE ZONING PUBLIC CONSULTATION? IS IT AN AREA LIKE WHEN EXACTLY WOULD THAT BE MS. BASSI-KELLETT? MS..
WHITE, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
THIS WAS ACTUALLY THIS IS A REALLY GOOD QUESTION FOR ALL THE PROPERTIES.
AGAIN, BASED ON THIS TIME ACTUALLY BASED ON SERVICING UNDERGROUND AS WELL AS LOT SIZES AND THEN LOOKING AT WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN AND AROUND THE SPECIFIC SITE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO IT VERY WELL MAY LOOK DIFFERENT FOR BURWASH KHAN THAN SAY, TAYLOR OR NIVEN AS AN EXAMPLE.
SO THAT WOULD COME FORWARD AT THAT PLANNING POINT IN TIME INCLUDED IN A JUSTIFICATION.
SO IF THERE'S AN AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THAT.
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FOR THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE THE AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IT WOULD BE PART OF THE ZONING.AND DOES ADMINISTRATION OR IS IT TOO EARLY IN THE PROCESS? DOES THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE ANY SORT OF SPECIFIC IDEAS HOW THEY COULD MITIGATE THE CONCERNS OF RESIDENTS AND THAT NATURAL AREA PRESERVATION STRATEGY, OR IS IT WAY TOO EARLY FOR THAT? MS. BASSI-KELLETT MS. WHITE THANK YOU.
I WOULD SAY IT'S TOO EARLY TO MAKE ANY PRESUMPTIONS, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE FIRST DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL BEFORE WE EVEN ENGAGE WITH COMMUNITY ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS. THANK YOU. OKAY.
SO I HAVE A FEW CONCERNS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT ON BLOCK 77, A OFF SCHOOL DRAW.
THE AREA IS VERY LOW LYING AND WET, ESPECIALLY GIVEN FLUCTUATING WATER LEVELS RECENTLY.
HAS ADMINISTRATION CONSIDERED THE CHALLENGES OF BUILDING IN SUCH AN AREA AS WELL AS THE RISK OF POTENTIAL FLOODING? MS. BASSI-KELLETT MS..
YES, WE'VE OBTAINED THE INFORMATION THAT IS AVAILABLE FROM THE N.W.T.
WITH REGARDS TO THE HIGH WATER LEVELS IN THE AREA AS WELL AS SOME GEOTECHNICAL INFORMATION.
SO, YES, WE HAVE REVIEWED IT AND BELIEVE THAT IT IS POSSIBLE AND.
REASONABLE TO BUILD ON THAT SITE.
HAVE THOSE NEGATIVE EFFECTS BEEN CONSIDERED IN ANY MITIGATION STRATEGIES DEVELOPED OR MS. BASSI-KELLETT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'LL PIPE IN BRIEFLY BEFORE PASSING THIS TO MISS WHITE.
AND WE CERTAINLY WANT TO UPHOLD AND CONTINUE TO PROTECT THAT AREA.
WE HAVEN'T GONE ANY FURTHER WITHOUT THAT DIRECTION.
ALSO, THE FACT THAT THIS WASN'T INCLUDED ON PAGE 99 OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN AS AREAS FOR POTENTIAL AND FOR INFILL, WHEREAS LIKE BURWASH CAN LIVE IN PHASE EIGHT AND EVEN DRIVE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SCHOOL DRAW WAS WERE ALL INCLUDED ON THAT PAGE OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
AND THIS WASN'T. JUST CURIOUS WHY IT WASN'T THEN AND WHY IT IS BEING CONSIDERED NOW.
WHITE. MY UNDERSTANDING IS OWNERSHIP.
THANK YOU. YEAH, I THINK THAT BLOCK IS THE ONE THAT I WOULD HAVE SPECIFIC CONCERN ABOUT.
AND THE WHAT'S THERE'S ONE MORE IS JUST GIVEN PHASE EIGHT, THE TRAIL THAT SORT OF GOES DIRECTLY THROUGH THERE THAT'S WELL USED THE COMMUNITY PLAN STATES THE FRINGE OF NEVADA AS A PRIMARY TRAIL NETWORK CONNECTING BACK BAY TO THE CAPITAL AREA AND BEYOND THE TRAILS WELL USED BY WALKERS, SKIERS, SNOWBOARDERS, CYCLISTS. HOW WOULD TRAIL ACCESS BE MAINTAINED HERE AND WOULD A COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT BE REQUIRED IN THIS CASE? MS. BASSI-KELLETT. MS..
WHITE SO NO, A COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT WOULDN'T BE REQUIRED IN THIS CASE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL, UH.
THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR. WARBURTON.
SO ALL MY QUESTIONS JUST GOT COACH THERE.
AND YOU TOUCHED A BIT ON WITH THE LAST ANSWERS.
IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO GET A LIST OF WHY EACH ONE WAS NOT INCLUDED? THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE THERE'S SOME QUITE LARGE PARCELS THAT YOU SAY NOT RIGHT NOW.
MINNEAPOLIS BALLPARK. THE ONES OVER BY FRAME LAKE BY THE POOL.
YEAH. JUST TO KNOW A BIT OF THE BACKGROUND OF WHY THOSE WEREN'T INCLUDED, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.
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I THINK IT MAY TAKE SOME TIME TO DO BECAUSE WE HAD REALLY FOCUSED ON CRITERIA FOR WHAT IS POSSIBLE.BUT I'LL ASK MS.. WHITE TO EXPAND.
I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE, THOUGH.
THANK YOU. DO YOU THINK YOU MIGHT? TAKING ALL MY QUESTIONS, ACTUALLY.
YEAH, ONE MORE ROUND AFFORDABILITY.
SO THAT'S JUST AFFORDABLE AFFORDABILITY BY SUPPLY, RIGHT.
SO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR. THAT'S KIND OF THE THOUGHT.
YES, THIS IS ABOUT ENSURING THAT WE HAVE A BROAD SPECTRUM OF RESIDENTIAL HOUSING.
THANK YOU. YES. HAVING AVAILABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO DEVELOP WHAT THEY NEED FOR THEIR SPECIFIC SITUATION AND HAVING THOSE OPTIONS IN PLAY REALLY IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO TELL YOU YOU HAVE TO DO X, Y, AND Z.
WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE OPTIONS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR PAYNE. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
LIKE ROB WAS SAYING, THERE'S A COUPLE OF LOTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN OUR IN THE AGENDA THAT WERE SENT OUT BUT ARE NOT IDENTIFIED IN THE FIVE BLOCKS THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED TODAY OPEN FOR DEVELOPMENT.
A DEVELOPER TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE FROM THE CITY AND DEVELOP AS A WHOLE.
MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'LL ASK MS.. WHITE TO SPEAK ON DETAIL ON THAT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
SO FOR RESIDENTIAL SPECIFICALLY, IT WOULD BE UNLIKELY THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER A BULK LAND LIKE A LARGE PARCEL OF LAND TO BE SOLD UNLESS IT WAS PART OF AN ALREADY CREATED AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND SUBDIVISION.
SO I'M JUST THINKING PERFECT EXAMPLE IS THE RECENT SALE.
AND GIVEN THAT LOT WAS CREATED AS PART OF THE PLAN OF SUBDIVISION, IT HAD AN AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN PLACE, THE ZONING WAS IN PLACE AND THE DEVELOPER COULD TAKE IT FROM THERE. SO THAT IS IN OUR BEST INTEREST FOR LAND USE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS IT THEN PROVIDES US WITH THE RESOURCES TO CONTINUE TO EITHER CREATE NEW LOTS, PROVIDE SERVICES TO NEW AREAS AND DEVELOPMENT.
SO IT KIND OF IS A CYCLICAL DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
THANK YOU. SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A CHANCE.
GOTCHA. I KNOW HISTORICALLY SPENCE WAY IT WAS BEING SOLD AS A BIG BLOCK OF LAND SIMILAR TO BLOCK 501, WHICH WAS LAKEVIEW HEIGHTS.
IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE CALLING IT NOW? THE TRAILER PARK BY THE CORRECTIONS? BUT NOBODY NOBODY EXPRESSED INTEREST IN PURCHASING THE BIG BULK LAND AND DOING THE SUBDIVISION.
SO THEN THE CITY TOOK IT BACK, DID ALL THAT, AND THEN SOLD THE PARCELS INDIVIDUALLY BECAUSE THERE WAS MORE INTEREST FROM INDIVIDUALS TO PURCHASE ONE LOT AS OPPOSED TO SOMEBODY COMING TO YELLOWKNIFE AND DEVELOPING A MULTI HECTARE PROJECT.
YEAH. JUST TO ADD TO THAT, I MEAN, A FEW OF THESE PIECES ARE FAIRLY SMALL PIECES.
THEY WOULDN'T BE LIKE A WHOLE CRESCENT SIZE, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF A DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPER WAS ABLE TO COME ON AND SAY, DO A DOZEN PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT.
I MEAN, IT COULD BE WELL WITHIN THE CONFINES OF, OF THE ABILITY OF SOME OF THESE DEVELOPERS.
I KNOW THERE'S A FEW DEVELOPERS WAITING IN THE WINGS RIGHT NOW, AND THEY'RE THEY'RE TRYING TO HONE THEIR SKILLS TO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL EVER BE ABLE TO REPLACE SOME OF THE BIGGER DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPERS THAT WE'VE LOST IN THE LAST IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
BUT IT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S WORTH DEFINITELY WORTH THE CONVERSATION ANYWAY.
THANK YOU, MS. BASSI-KELLETT. SINCE WE WILL BE ENGAGING ON THE PARCELS, ADMINISTRATION WOULD BE OPEN TO TO FOLKS EXPRESSING INTEREST ON COMING FORWARD AND SAYING, HEY, I'D LIKE TO ACQUIRE.
X SECTION AND AND DEVELOP MYSELF SINCE I IMAGINE, AGAIN, WE'RE IN THAT ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
THANKS VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
ABSOLUTELY. WE'VE HAD THAT HAPPEN.
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CONVERSATION ABOUT PROPERTY X? WE'RE ALWAYS INTERESTED IN HAVING THE CONVERSATION AND WORKING WITH THEM TO SEE WHAT MEETS OUR INTEREST AND WHAT CAN POSSIBLY MEET THEIRS AS WELL.MS. WHITE I'LL TURN IT TO YOU TO SEE IF YOU HAVE OTHER IDEAS ON THAT.
SOME REVIEW BEFORE ANY CONSIDERATION OF A SALE WOULD OCCUR, BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT WORTH IT FOR US TO DO IT OR WE KNOW IT'S GOING, WE ALREADY KNOW IT'S GOING TO COST OR TAKE SUPER AMOUNTS OF ENGINEERING AND FUNDING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE I'M THINKING OF SOME AREAS WHERE THE FOUNDATIONS JUST WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO SIT PROPERLY.
LIKE I WOULDN'T FEEL RIGHT, IT WOULDN'T BE ETHICAL TO SELL THAT.
SO JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
THANKS. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR, FOR CAT.
THANKS FOR THE VERY DETAILED INFORMATION PACKAGE.
THAT WAS GREAT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT I SAY IN GENERAL, I'M DEFINITELY SUPPORTIVE OF GROWTH AND RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR INFILL AND DENSIFICATION TO ADDRESS THE CURRENT AND FUTURE HOUSING SITUATION.
THE TRICK IS, THE TRICK IS HOW DO WE DO THAT IN THE BEST WAY? SO I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS THAT TOM DIDN'T TAKE.
I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THEY ARE WEIGHTED IN ANY WAY? AND IF SO, IF YOU COULD ELABORATE.
WHITE, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
NO, WE DIDN'T USE A WEIGHTED SYSTEM.
WITH THAT RESPONSE, THEN I'D PROBABLY JUST LIKE TO ECHO COUNCILOR WARBURTON'S REQUEST.
SORRY, COUNCILOR, FORGET. AND JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT.
SO IN COUNCILOR WARBURTON, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR DETAILED INFORMATION ON, FOR EXAMPLE, WHY NUMBER NINE IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO BE DEVELOPED AS OPPOSED TO THE PINK AREAS WHICH GET PERFECT? IT'S THE THE HATCHED KIT.
MY NEXT QUESTION WAS ABOUT IT WAS ABOUT THE TAYLOR TAYLOR ROAD AREA.
IT DEFINITELY SEEMS LIKE POTENTIALLY A GOOD AREA.
AND I JUST HAD FORWARDED ALONG A QUESTION EARLIER THIS MORNING THAT I WAS WAS RAISED TO MY ATTENTION ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEALTH ACT AND SOME GENERAL SANITATION REGULATIONS, SECTION EIGHT, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE COTTON MINE TAILINGS FACILITY AND ABOUT A MINIMUM DISTANCE THAT WASTE DISPOSAL GROUNDS OF WHICH I PRESUME TAILINGS FACILITY WOULD WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT DEFINITION HAS TO BE 450 METERS AWAY.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT COVERS THAT WHOLE PROPOSED AREA.
THANK YOU, MS. BASSI-KELLETT MISS WHITE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO, YES, WE ARE AWARE OF THE RECLAMATION.
IT'S NOT EVEN REMEDIATION. IT'S RECLAMATION IN THAT AREA, THE FOUR DIFFERENT LEVELS AND.
AREAS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AND WHAT EACH OF THOSE REPRESENT.
SO THAT WAS KNOWN DURING THEIR CLEANUP PROCESS.
IT'S NOT 450 AT THIS PRESENT TIME, AND IT'S NOT FROM THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY.
IT'S FROM THE EDGE OF THE SITE, WHICH IS IN THE CLASS ONE AND CLASS TWO AREAS.
THESE ARE THREE AND FOUR DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO TAYLOR.
PLUS THERE'S ALSO A SIGNIFICANT BREAK IN THE PROPERTY.
AND I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT RESIDENTIAL USE.
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THEY WERE AWARE OF THAT MANY MOONS AGO WHEN THEY WERE STARTING THIS PROCESS.OKAY. NOW, THAT BEING SAID, AS PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS, DUE DILIGENCE SAYS WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AND MAKE SURE DOUBLE CHECK DOT OUR EYES, CROSS OUR T'S AND WE WILL DO THAT IF DIRECTED BY COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE PROPERTIES.
KIND OF CURRENT EXPECTATIONS FOR THE RECLAMATION TIMELINES AT THAT SITE.
AND OR I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MATTER BECAUSE WE'RE CURRENTLY THE PROPOSAL LANDED HERE IS TO ALL ALL REGULATIONS, LEGISLATION AND EVERYTHING WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT. MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE KNOW THE OVERALL THE KHAN SITE IS BEING EXPLORED NOW STILL FOR MINING POTENTIAL.
SO THAT'S A FACTOR IN THE PROPERTY OVERALL.
ALAS, MS.. WHITE, IF SHE HAS ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? NO, I HAVE NO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
WE'LL. AGAIN, IF DIRECTED BY COUNCIL, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS POTENTIALLY A FUTURE SITUATION THERE, BUT WHAT BENEFITS WE COULD PROVIDE FOR OUR COMMUNITY WITH THE LAND WE CURRENTLY OWN. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. AND JUST SOME ADDITIONAL CONTEXT FOR THAT PREVIOUS QUESTION.
I GUESS IT WAS RELATED TO THE FACT THAT OBVIOUSLY SOMETIMES CLOSURE OF THESE MINE SITES OR THE RECLAMATION OR THE REMEDIATION OF THEM DON'T ALWAYS GET TO THE THE EXPECTED CLOSURE CRITERIA THAT WE ALL HOPE SO.
AGAIN, JUST THINKING OF LIKE EXPENDING RESOURCES TO DO SOME WORK AND THEN IT DOESN'T GET AS CLEAN AS WE HOPE, JUST MAKING SURE THAT DOESN'T AFFECT US OR JUST A THOUGHT FOR DOWN THE ROAD. QUESTION YOU MENTIONED THE 2 TO 3 YEARS IS KIND OF BEST PRACTICE FOR HAVING DESIGNATED ZONE AND SUBDIVIDED LOTS AVAILABLE BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE ALWAYS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY NOT HOLDING UP STUFF.
I'M JUST CURIOUS, IS THAT COMPARABLE FOR LIKE YELLOWKNIFE CIRCUMSTANCES, SIZE, POPULATION GROWTH RATE OR IS THAT LIKE OTHER CAPITAL CITIES? OR JUST HOPING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE INFO? MS. BASSI-KELLETT. MS..
WHITE THAT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
SO THEY ALL KIND OF FORM AND FOLLOW A SIMILAR TRAJECTORY.
YOU BUILD NOW AND YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED.
SAME WITH SCHOOLS YOU BUILD NOW, BUT YOU WANT TO THINK TEN, 15 YEARS OUT.
SO I WOULD ARGUE LAND USE PLANNING FOR ALL LAND USES IS THE SAME.
SO ADD THE TWO TOGETHER, THEY ALMOST MAKE 20.
THEN YOU START ALL OVER AGAIN AND KIND OF CONTINUE FORWARD.
SO THAT'S HOW THOSE NUMBERS FIT IN PLAY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LAND USE PLANNING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
AND I JUST WANT TO ASSURE YOU, I DEFINITELY HEARD WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER.
ALL THE PROPOSED FIVE AREAS WILL ONLY CATCH US UP ISH.
SO WE HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED ABOUT.
BY THE TIME THIS IS DONE RIGHT, IT'S GOING TO BE A COUPLE OF YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
SO JUST RECOGNIZING, OBVIOUSLY, THE LONG LEAD TIME THAT YOU GUYS HAD EXPLAINED IN THE INFORMATION PACKAGE, ALL THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO FURTHER INVESTIGATE ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS MORE OF A PROCESS ONE, SO LOOK TO THE BOSS, THE LADIES HERE TO IF COUNCIL DOES MOVE A MOTION TO PROCEED AT NEXT WEEK'S COUNCIL MEETING TO BEGIN ALL OF THIS, THIS ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF WORK AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES IN THE REZONING AND AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESSES FOR FORMAL MOTIONS AND ENGAGEMENT.
HOW WILL THE RESULTS OF ANY ENGAGEMENT LEADING UP TO THOSE PROCESSES BE COLLECTED AND COMMUNICATED TO COUNCIL MS. BASSI-KELLETT? MISS WHITE, I THINK WE WOULD USE A SIMILAR PROCESS TO WHAT WE'VE HAD BEFORE.
SO IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE DID FOR THE ZONING BYLAW, WE INCLUDED THE COMMENTS AND WE DID THEM KIND OF IN A CATEGORY AS TO HOW THEY WERE EVALUATED, WHAT THE COMMENTS WERE, WHAT THEY WERE RELATED TO, SECTION BY SECTION.
SO AGAIN, THIS EACH ONE OF THESE WOULD BE AN INDIVIDUAL SITE SPECIFIC PLANNING PROCESS.
SO IT WOULD ONLY BE RELATING TO THOSE LANDS.
SO FOR THE PUBLIC IN GENERAL AS WELL.
THANK YOU. COUNCILOR COCHRANE.
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HE IS CURIOUS AS TO WHY LOT 29 BLOCK 87.PLAN 637 IN THE SCHOOL DRAW AREA WERE NOT CONSIDERED.
NOW AFTER HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES.
WOULD THE ADMINISTRATION BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION AT THIS TIME AS TO WHY THOSE AREAS WERE NOT CONSIDERED? THANK YOU. MS. BASSI-KELLETT MISS WHITE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION FROM A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.
SO, YES, ONE OF THE PROPERTIES HAS A WATERWAY THROUGH IT, SO WE'D HAVE SOME CONCERNS THERE.
IN GENERAL, ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES, I DO KNOW WHERE THEY ARE ON THE SCHOOL DRAW.
THEY'RE IN AND BEHIND. SO THEY HAVE NO ROAD ACCESS.
THEY'RE NOT DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO MUNICIPAL SERVICES.
SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO CUT THROUGH OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES.
SO THOSE ARE THE REASONS WHY THEY WERE NOT INCLUDED.
MUNICIPAL PROPERTY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE ONLY THING AFTER IS KIND OF A GENERAL COMMENT.
I WANT TO THANK THE ADMINISTRATION FOR ALL THE WORK YOU GUYS HAVE DONE SO FAR ON THIS.
THE 77, A MOSTLY TO CONCERN WITH ITS CONNECTION TOWARDS THE BIRD SANCTUARY AND THE TRIALS AND THE UNIQUENESS OF THOSE TRAILS WITH THE WILLOWS AND OF COURSE THE RECREATIONAL AREA AND SKATE PARK, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S PRETTY WELL PUBLISHED.
HOW MUCH OF A FAN OF SKATE PARKS? I AM. THANK YOU.
COUNCILOR HENDRICKSEN. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
SECOND THING, I GUESS THIRD THING, AT THIS POINT, COUNSELORS WARBURTON FORGET REALLY A LITTLE HESITANT ABOUT GOING FORWARD SAYING, YES, WE'RE BEHIND THESE FIVE WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHY OTHER ONES AREN'T BEING PUT FORWARD.
IT'S SORT OF ONE OF THOSE THINGS, IF WE DON'T KNOW WHY SOMETHING WASN'T OR WHY SOMETHING WASN'T CHOSEN, HOW DO WE KNOW WHY THINGS WERE CHOSEN? AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING I'M STRUGGLING WITH AT THE MOMENT.
I THINK SOMETHING THAT WE DO KIND OF NEED TO KNOW, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, AT A AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL.
WE NEED TO KNOW THAT BEFORE GOING FORWARD.
SECOND WOULD BE ECHOING COUNSELORS MCLENNAN AND COCHRANE.
AGAIN, AROUND THE THE SCHOOL DRAW PROPERTY ON THE EAST SIDE, BUTTING AGAINST THE ROTARY PARK ACCESS AND THE BIRD SANCTUARY. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR, FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU'VE DONE THE GEOTECHNICAL AND INVESTIGATED THAT WITH GENUITY.
SO THAT ANSWERED ALL THOSE PARTS OF THE QUESTIONS.
BUT SIMILAR TO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAPS AROUND THE GET SOME AUTONOMY BLOCK THE AQUATIC CENTER NORTHLANDS BLOCK AND THEN THE POTENTIAL NIVEN BLOCK AROUND THE BACK OF NIVEN LAKE TRAIL.
I KNOW YOU'VE HIGHLIGHTED THAT ALREADY.
I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY GETTING THAT THROUGH AND THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IF THOSE ARE CONSIDERED FOR THE FUTURE LIKE YOU'VE DONE WITH THE SCHOOL DRAW MAP AND GOING, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE RESPECTING THE BIRD SANCTUARY.
SO EVEN THOUGH THE LOT ACTUALLY INCLUDES THE BIRD SANCTUARY GOING, NO, THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS AND CUTTING THAT OUT BECAUSE NOT ONLY WAS MY FIRST REACTION BEFORE WE STARTED GETTING ALL OF THE EMAILS FROM RESIDENTS, THAT WAS MY FIRST REACTION TO IT IS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE BUFFER IS THERE.
AND SO FROM A COMMS PERSPECTIVE AND MAKING SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TRANS-CANADA TRAIL SYSTEM IS NOT GOING TO BE INTERRUPTED, PARDON ME, INTERRUPTED OR IMPINGED UPON. LIKE THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
AND THEN SEE, I TOLD YOU IT WAS MORE COMMON AT THIS POINT.
SO WE MAY BE AWARE OF WHY, BUT I'D LOVE FOR YOU IF YOU COULD RESPOND TO THE QUESTION OF.
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WHAT IS THE CITY DOING RIGHT NOW IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ACTIVELY.PURSUING DEVELOPMENT OF THE DOWNTOWN LOTS THAT WE DO OWN AND WHAT ARE WE DOING FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL? AND ALSO WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND? AND MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING TO TAKE AWAY AND COME BACK TO US.
COUNCIL LEVEL TO PROVIDE DIRECTIONS THAT WE'RE GETTING VACANT PROPERTY TAXES OR OTHER MECHANISMS ON BOARD SO THAT WE'RE NOT DEVELOPING GREEN SPACE IN TOWN BEFORE WE'RE DEVELOPING EMPTY LOTS THAT JUST SUCK THE LIFE OUT OF PEOPLE.
WE HEAR THAT ALL THE TIME IS PEOPLE LOOK DOWNTOWN AND JUST FEEL SAD ABOUT IT.
AND THAT'S A REALLY CRITICAL PIECE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WORK, IS THAT WHILE WE DO NEED NEW DEVELOPMENT ON NEW PLOTS OF LAND, WE ALSO DO NEED TO BE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT LEAVING THE LAND THAT'S CURRENTLY SITTING VACANT, BOTH THAT WE OWN, BUT THAT WE COULD USE MECHANISMS TO SPUR DEVELOPMENT OF PRIVATE PROPERTY.
CABIN RADIO ARTICLE, THE CBC ARTICLE.
BUT THEN WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE NEED TO DO FROM A COUNCIL LEVEL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET ACTION ON THOSE SIDES OF THINGS? THANK YOU FOR THE RAMBLE AND I'LL PASS IT OVER.
THANKS. APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS.
SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PIECES THERE.
WHAT I CAN SPEAK TO IS FOR DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION, THE DOWNTOWN INCENTIVES.
WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING AT THAT POINT ABOUT CITY OWNED PROPERTY.
SO, YES, THE CITY HAS A NUMBER OF PARCELS, BUT YES, THERE ARE OTHER PARCELS.
AND SO WE'VE HAD AN INCENTIVE BYLAW IN PLACE SINCE 2009.
THE MOST WELL USED BENEFIT AND INCENTIVE THERE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DOWNTOWN.
SO CLEARLY WE WERE WE NEED TO DO SOME EVALUATION AND REVIEW, WHICH IS WHAT WE STARTED DOING IN 2022, AND WE HOPE TO BRING BACK SOME NEW CREATIVE IDEAS.
YELLOWKNIFE SPECIFIC IDEAS BECAUSE WE ARE DIFFERENT, CAN'T JUST COPY WHAT SOMEONE ELSE DOWN SOUTH DID AS WELL AS WHAT CAN WE DO AS THE CITY? SO MAYBE NOT SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU AS COUNCIL CAN DO, BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT OR RE-ENERGIZING A SPACE, A COMMUNITY SPACE, THERE HAS TO BE THERE'S WHAT THE PUBLIC SECTOR DOES AND THEN THERE'S WHAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR DOES AND HOW CAN WE MARRY THOSE TWO TOGETHER? YOU KNOW, MAYBE SMALL THINGS OVER TIME OR MAYBE ONE LARGE THING, OTHER INCENTIVES, AS WERE BROUGHT FORWARD LAST YEAR WHERE THE POTENTIAL CONTEMPLATION OF SALE PRICE OF CITY LAND IN THE DOWNTOWN STILL COMING WITH DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS.
HOWEVER, WE'RE SAYING WE HAVE THIS LAND, IT'S AVAILABLE, LET'S HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
SO TRYING TO SHOW THAT WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY AND AS A MUNICIPALITY OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
AS FOR WHAT COUNCIL CAN DO, I WILL NOT TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN DO.
WE'RE NOT PROFESSIONAL LAND USE PLANNERS.
SO I DO HOPE THAT IN THE FUTURE, WHILE YOU WON'T TELL US WHAT TO DO, ABSOLUTELY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
THE ONE THING THAT WE SAW A LOT OF REALLY SPURRED DEVELOPMENT WAS OUR CHANGES TO THE ZONING BYLAW.
BACK IN MARCH, COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER A VACANT PROPERTY TAX, BUT IT CAN'T BE GEO SPECIFIC, SO YOU CAN'T JUST TARGET PROPERTIES DOWNTOWN.
IT MEANS IT'S TARGETING PROPERTIES ACROSS TOWN.
SO I KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE EMPTY LOTS IN OLD TOWN AND IN THE RIVET AREA AND THEY WOULD BE TARGETED JUST LIKE THE PROPERTIES DOWNTOWN. BUT IF THAT WAS COUNCIL'S ONE OF OUR PRINCIPLES THAT WE WANT TO SPUR PEOPLE TO, TO GET SELLING.
THE OTHER CHALLENGE WILL BE THE MARKET WITH OUR OUR BIG LOTS DOWNTOWN.
THOSE ARE 40 TO $50 MILLION BUILDS.
SO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? FOR MYSELF. I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF I HAD ANY QUESTIONS.
OH, AND I GUESS JUST TO COUNSELOR HENDRICKSEN POINT.
THE ONES LIKE WE'VE IDENTIFIED.
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SO, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE ONE ABOUT RESIDENTIAL CENTRAL, NUMBER SIX IS THE ONE THAT'S KIND OF CLOSE TO THE FRAME LINK TRAIL.WE'VE OUTLINED THAT WHOLE PROPERTY AND WE HAVEN'T HIVED OFF SECTIONS BECAUSE IN THE AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD MARK THIS IS GOING TO BE NATURE PRESERVE.
WE WILL BE INCLUDING THE BUFFERS AND AND THE TRAIL DESIGNATIONS.
IS THAT CORRECT? MS. BASSI-KELLETT THANK YOU.
YES. MS.. WHITE SO THAT'S PARTLY CORRECT.
WE WOULD POTENTIALLY HOLD IT IN OUR OWNERSHIP.
SAME WITH THE TRAILS. SO THOSE ARE DISCUSSIONS THAT WOULD BE HAD THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT GRACE LAKES, YOU CAN SEE WHAT AN AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN LOOKS LIKE.
IT INCLUDES THOSE BUFFERS, IT INCLUDES WHERE THE TRAILS ARE.
SO IMPORTANT THINGS TO TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
IF YOU WANT TO KIND OF WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND THESE PROCESSES A BIT MORE, OPENING IT UP TO COMMENTS.
COUNCILOR WARBURTON. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
YEAH, JUST OVERALL, I'M SUPPORTIVE.
I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE THIS COMING IN COMBINATION WITH INCENTIVE BYLAWS.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE HOW WE TALK ABOUT THIS.
AND IT SAYS IN DEVELOPMENT ALL THE TIME WE SHOULD SAY HOUSING, BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE'RE IN A HOUSING CRISIS AND WE KEEP SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, HOUSING IS A RIGHT.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP IN FRONT OF OUR MIND HERE.
THIS IS PLACES FOR HOUSING FOR PEOPLE, OUR FRIENDS, OUR NEIGHBORS THAT DON'T HAVE HOUSES.
PEOPLE THAT CAN'T GET HOUSING TO WORK IN OUR CITY RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S TONS OF EMPLOYERS I HEAR FROM THAT STAFF ARE NOT COMING UP.
THEY COME UP TO LOOK FOR HOUSES, CAN'T FIND ANYTHING, CAN'T RENT ANYTHING, AND THEY LEAVE.
SO THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT WE NEED TO SOLVE.
I'M KIND OF SURPRISED, ACTUALLY, THAT WE HAVE A DEMAND AT 350 A YEAR.
RIGHT NOW, IT'S LIKE MOST CITIES, WE'RE IN A DEFICIT.
THAT'S IN FRONT OF MY MIND. YEAH.
SO. WHAT ELSE? YEAH. SO, YEAH, THIS IS THIS IS ONE PIECE, RIGHT? SO HOUSING IS GOING TO BE FIXED IN A NUMBER OF WAYS.
IT'S NOT ONE SILVER BULLET SOLUTION HERE.
SO YEAH, I ENCOURAGE AS WE DISCUSS AND GO THROUGH THIS, FOR PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT THE WHOLE PICTURE AND ACTUALLY HOUSING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO PRESERVE NATURE AND TRAILS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, BUT THERE'S A TRADE OFF, RIGHT? SOMEONE'S GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY CHANGE.
SO WHAT'S THE GOAL? AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE HOUSING PEOPLE.
SO FORGET. THANKS, MADAM CHAIR.
JUST REITERATING A POINT THAT COUNCILOR WARBURTON JUST MADE, I AM GENERALLY ALSO IN SUPPORT OF.
I WANT TO AGAIN THANK THE STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK THEY'VE DONE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ENOUGH LAND THAT WILL GET US TO WHERE WE WANT TO BE THAT BEST PRACTICE OF A YEAR OR TWO OR THREE AHEAD, JUST LIKE WE'RE DOING ON THE COMMERCIAL AND THE INDUSTRIAL LOTS THAT WE JUST APPROVED RECENTLY.
SO I WOULD ACTUALLY BE IN SUPPORT OF SEEING MORE, MORE COME FORWARD, MORE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE MEMO? OH, SORRY, I DID HAVE YOU.
YEAH. THANKS FOR THE GREAT DISCUSSION.
IT'S GOOD TO HEAR EVERYONE'S DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.
YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION AGAIN THE.
YEAH I THINK THE PUBLIC CONSULTATION WILL BE INTERESTING ON THAT ONE.
JUST A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED THAT WE HAVE A NATURAL AREA PRESERVATION STRATEGY BUT BUT SEEM TO BE JUST SAYING THAT TIMES HAVE CHANGED AND WE AND WE DON'T REALLY LOOK TO THAT ANYMORE.
IT'S SLIGHTLY CONCERNING TO ME.
YEAH. AND THERE'S A BALANCE THERE.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THE THE PROCESS OR THE BEST PROCESS WOULD BE, BUT I'M I'M NOT COMFORTABLE CONTINUING WITH BLOCK 77.
A SO I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT TO REMOVE THAT ONE IF THAT'S.
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WHAT IS THE BEST PROCESS ON THAT? IF THERE IS GENERAL SUPPORT TODAY TO REMOVE THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S JUST ABSOLUTELY NO INTEREST IN EXPLORING IT ANY FURTHER.WE CAN STRIKE IT TODAY OR WE CAN HOLD OFF AND IT CAN BE STRUCK AT MONDAY NIGHT'S MEETING. SO I'M COMFORTABLE EITHER WAY.
THAT PROBABLY BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE CAN GIVE FOLKS.
A BIG THANKS TO ADMIN FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
THIS IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG.
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TALK ABOUT THE BEST PRACTICE TO ACTUALLY HAVE THOSE 2 TO 3 YEARS OF PLANNED AND ZONE LOTS READY TO BE PUT ON THE MARKET.
HABITAT FOR HUMANITY HAS OVER THEY RECEIVED OVER 50 APPLICATIONS FOR THEIR TWO HOMES RECENTLY AND THERE'S A LOT OF FEDERAL MONEY AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO BUY MORE LAND SO THAT THEY CAN HOUSE MORE PEOPLE.
THAT'S ONE. OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT TO LOOK TO CURRENTLY PROPERTY WITH THE UNDERUSED HOUSE, TEAR IT DOWN, DO THE REMEDIATION. THEY'RE NOT AS LIKELY TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH WITH THEIR APPLICATION.
SO IT DEFINITELY IT HAS AN IMPACT.
AND YEAH, JUST LOOKING AT LIKE THE NIVEN LAKE AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS FIRST DONE IN 2004 AND THAT'S WHEN AND NIVEN HAS EIGHT PHASES AND NOW WE'RE AT THE FINAL PHASE EIGHT.
AND SO 19 YEARS LATER WE'RE NOW DISCUSSING GETTING THAT LAND READY AND ONLINE.
SO AGAIN, THIS THIS LAND, IT TAKES A WHILE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE PROCESS.
AND I CAN ALSO APPRECIATE THAT WHEN PEOPLE PURCHASE THEIR HOUSE THAT THEY DON'T CONTACT THE CITY AND CHECK THE ZONING BYLAW AND CHECK THE COMMUNITY PLAN AND CHECK THE AREA DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND SO IT CAN ALSO COME AS A SURPRISE TO SEE THEM IN PHASE EIGHT TODAY.
THE OTHER ONES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN, WHICH I KNOW NOT EVERYBODY IS PROBABLY REVIEWED OR MAYBE WAS EVEN IN YELLOWKNIFE WHEN WE ENGAGED ON IT, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT ANY OF THESE ARE LOCKED IN STONE.
THERE'S SOME REALLY MEATY DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN IT COMES TO AREAS THAT ARE PART OF THE PARCEL THAT CAN BE RETAINED AND WHERE THE TRAILS ARE GOING TO GO AND WHAT SIZE THE LOTS ARE GOING TO BE.
AND THE THING THAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS TO HOPEFULLY GET LOTS THAT ARE THE CHEAPEST TO DEVELOP THE QUICKEST AS OPPOSED TO ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE TOUGHER TECHNICALLY, WHICH THEN INCREASES THE COST AND WILL BE LESS LIKELY TO HAVE THAT MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY HERE AND I THINK AN IMPORTANT STEP IN OUR HOPEFULLY NEW AND CONTINUING LAND USE PLANNING AND TO BASICALLY CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT GETTING THE NEXT LAND ON THE MARKET, PARTICULARLY AFTER THE ONES THAT WERE JUST IN THE YELLOW ZONE. BUT THOSE PINK ONES WILL BE INTERESTING DISCUSSIONS AFTER THAT.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG PROCESS AND THIS IS JUST STEP ONE.
STEP TWO WILL BE DISCUSSION AT COUNCIL NEXT WEEK AND THEN PLENTY OF STATUTORY PUBLIC HEARINGS.
BUT REALLY IMPORTANT I THINK TO TO KEEP THE DISCUSSION SEPARATE.
SO. LOOKING FORWARD TO FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THAT.
AND YEAH, HOPING TO HOUSE PEOPLE.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, MS. BASSI-KELLETT, THE 350 DWELLINGS ARE NEEDED TO CATCH UP AND NOT 350 NEEDED PER YEAR, CORRECT? CORRECT. PERFECT.
THANK YOU. SEEING NOTHING FURTHER ON THIS.
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THINKING CAPS ON THAT.YOU. I THINK CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MS. BASSI-KELLETT, BUT STEP ONE WILL BE THESE YELLOWS.
IS THAT CORRECT? IT WOULD BE THE FIVE THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED FOR SURE.
AND THEN WE WOULD AGAIN USE THE FILTER AND CRITERIA AS NEEDED TO COME BACK WITH NEW PROPERTIES.
THE PINKS ARE ALL HAVE PROMISE, BUT THERE ARE ISSUES WITH A LOT OF THEM.
MISS WHITE, ANYTHING TO ADD? THE ONLY OTHER PIECE I WOULD ADD IS AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH LAND TRANSFER, IF WE BECOME OWNERS OF PARCELS THAT WOULD ALSO MAKE GOOD OPTIONS, WE WOULD BRING THAT FORWARD, WHICH IS WHY I FLAGGED ONE OF THEM.
BUT THERE ARE POTENTIALLY OUR OTHERS.
SO JUST KEEP THAT AS WELL THAT THERE MAY BE ADDITIONS TO THIS LIST.
THANK YOU. AND I THINK DIRECTING STAFF TO JUST WORK ON THESE FIVE RIGHT NOW IS IS PRETTY HARDY WORKLOAD ALONG WITH LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL AS WELL.
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OPPOSED SEEING NONE.AND THERE'S NO BUSINESS ARISING FROM IN CAMERA.
IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN, MOVE BY COUNCILOR HENDRICKSEN, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR MCLENNAN.
ANYBODY OPPOSED SEEING? NONE. WE CAN BE ADJOURNED.
WE'LL SEE EVERYBODY NEXT MONDAY AT LUNCH.
SEE YOU THEN.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.