READY, AND I'LL CALL OUR SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING FOR MONDAY, JULY 18TH, 2022 TO ORDER, AND I WILL ASK COUNCIL MUFANDAEDZA TO PLEASE READ THE [1. Councillor Payne will read the Opening Statement] [00:00:10] OPENING STATEMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YOUR WORSHIP. THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE ACKNOWLEDGES THAT WE ARE LOCATED IN CHIEF DRYGEESE TERRITORY FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL. IT HAS BEEN THE TRADITIONAL LAND OF THE YELLOWKNIFE DENE FIRST NATION. WE RESPECT THE HISTORIES, LANGUAGES AND CULTURES OF ALL INDIGENOUS PEOPLES, INCLUDING THE NORTH SLAVE METIS AND ALL FIRST NATIONS, MÉTIS AND INUIT, WHOSE PRESENCE CONTINUES TO ENRICH OUR VIBRANT COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. NEXT, WE HAVE DISCLOSURE PECUNIARY INTEREST IN THE GENERAL NATURE THEREOF. DOES ANY MEMBER HAVE A PECUNIARY INTEREST IN ANY MATTER BEFORE COUNCIL TONIGHT? SEEING NONE, AND TO NOTE FOR THOSE WATCHING ON THE WEBCAST, WE ARE JOINED BY COUNCILLOR PAYNE ON TELECONFERENCE. NEXT WE HAVE INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF COMMITTEE REPORTS. [2. Does any Member have a pecuniary interest in any matter before Council tonight?] [Items 3 & 4] WE HAVE THE GOVERNANCE AND PRIORITIES COMMITTEE REPORT FOR JUNE 27TH, 2022, AND I WILL ASK COUNSELOR MUFANDAEDZA TO PLEASE MOVE. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE PROPOSED NATURAL RESOURCES EXTRACTION USE ON A PORTION OF LOT NUMBER FOUR BLOCK 316 AS CONDITIONALLY PERMITTED USE IN THE GM GROWTH MANAGEMENT ZONE WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. NUMBER ONE, THE DEVELOPMENT USE OF THE NATURAL RESOURCE EXTRACTION IS PERMITTED FOR TEN YEARS. FOLLOWING THE DATES, THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING DETERMINES THE CONDITION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ARE SATISFIED. NUMBER TWO, WHERE AN EXTENSION OF THE PERMITTED USE TIME PERIOD IS REQUIRED, AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT MUST BE MADE NOT LATER THAN SIX MONTHS PRIOR TO THE EXPIRATION OF THE FIVE YEAR TERM. NUMBER THREE, WE'RE AN EXTENSION OF THE PERMITTED USE TIME PERIOD IS REQUIRED. THE APPLICATION FOR EXTENSION WILL BE BROUGHT BEFORE COUNCIL FOR A DECISION AS THE USE IS CONDITIONALLY PERMITTED. NUMBER FOUR, THE SHORELINE SETBACK WILL REMAIN IN PLACE DURING AND AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE NATURAL RESOURCE EXTRACTION USE IN THE MEASUREMENTS AND LOCATIONS AS INDICATED ON THE SITE PLAN AND GRADING PLAN SUBMISSION BY EDS GROUP MARCH 2022 WHERE THE MINIMUM SHORELINE SETBACK WHERE NO EXTRACTION WILL OCCUR, IS 41 METERS FROM THE HIGH WATERMARK NUMBER FIVE, THAT ALL THE NECESSARY MEANS AND PROTECTIONS WILL BE PUT IN PLACE DURING THE NATURAL RESOURCE EXTRACTION USED TO ENSURE NO DAMAGE OR NEGATIVE IMPACT OCCURS TO THE HISTORIC SINGLE DETACHMENT DWELLING LOCATED ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND NUMBER SIX, HAUL ROUTES AND TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE PROPOSED NATURAL RESOURCE EXTRACTION USE SHALL BE CONSIDERED THROUGH THE PREPARATION OF A TRAFFIC IMPACT ASSESSMENT BY A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL AND APPROVED BY THE CITY AND GNWT MINISTRY RESPONSIBLE FOR HIGHWAYS. THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ASSESSMENT SHALL ADDRESS, BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO THE PROJECTED VOLUME OF TRUCK TRAFFIC RELATED TO THE PROPOSED NATURAL RESOURCE EXTRACTION USE AND EXISTING SIMILAR USES USING THE PROPOSED ROUTES, THE PHYSICAL SUITABILITY OF THE HAUL ROUTES OF TRUCK TRAFFIC, WHICH AGGREGATE LOAD ANY REQUIREMENTS OR FORM IMPROVEMENTS TO THE HAUL ROUTES. THE LOCATION AND DESIGN OF A SAFE ENTRANCE FROM THE HIGHWAY TO THE SITE NOISE IMPACT INDICATING AN ACCEPTABLE [INAUDIBLE] LEVEL THAT ANY OTHER IMPACTS STIPULATED BY ANOTHER AGENCY HAVING JURISDICTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. CAN I HAVE A SECONDER? COUNCILLOR WILLIAMS AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT SO I WILL PASS THE CHAIR TO COUNCILLOR MORGAN. MAYOR ALTY. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO ADD JUST ONE MORE CONDITION IS IT WAS PRESENTED AT GPC. IT'S THE CONDITION. A REPORT DEMONSTRATING THE MARKET NEED AND SUPPORTING ACTIVITIES IN THIS AREA IS REQUIRED TO DEMONSTRATE EXISTING RESOURCES ARE EXHAUSTED. THE REPORT IS REQUIRED TO BE PROVIDED TO THE CITY IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 4.17 OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN BYLAW NUMBER 5007, AND I CAN SPEAK TO IT IF THERE'S A SECONDER. OKAY, IS THERE A SECONDER? COUNCILLOR MUFANDAEDZA. MAYOR ALTY? THANK YOU. YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE MORE CONDITION SO THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMMUNITY PLAN AND MAKING SURE THAT DECISIONS CAN'T BE APPEALED BECAUSE WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE. I GUESS MY ONE. [00:05:02] OH, YEAH. NO, I WAS GOING TO SAY THERE'S THERE'S THE POLICY 7.8, WHICH IS WHERE THE WORDING COMES FROM. SO YEAH, I'LL STICK WITH JUST MAKING SURE THAT IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMMUNITY PLAN IS JUST THE ONE EXTRA CONDITION THAT IS NEEDED FOR ME TO SUPPORT THE MOTION AS PRESENTED. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? COUNCILLOR KONGE. THANK YOU. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK OUR COMMUNITY SET PLAN SAYS MUCH ABOUT WHAT THAT REPORT NEEDS TO ENTAIL. SO I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD THIS, WE NEED TO BE PRETTY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, WHO NEEDS TO DO IT. I MEAN, THIS IS A BUSINESS ENTERPRISE. SO OBVIOUSLY, THE BUSINESS THINKS THAT IT IS GOING TO WORK, BUT I MEAN, WHO DOES THE REPORT? WHO ARE WE EXPECTING IT TO BE FROM? YOU KNOW, CAN THE [INAUDIBLE] CONSTRUCTION GO OUT AND HIRE, I DON'T KNOW, [INAUDIBLE] CONSTRUCTION TO SAY WE NEED GRAVEL. WE LOVE THIS PROJECT SO IT'S ECONOMICALLY VIABLE. IS THAT A GOOD ENOUGH REPORT OR WHAT ARE WE EXPECTING OUT OF THIS? PERHAPS ADMINISTRATION WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND FIRST TO THAT. I'M NOT SURE IF MAYOR ALTY HAS SOME IDEAS, BUT MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YOUR WORSHIP, AND CERTAINLY THESE REPORTS ARE COMMONLY DONE BY ENGINEERING FIRMS. I'LL ASK MS. WHITE IF SHE COULD ELABORATE ON WHAT SHE ANTICIPATES IN THIS SCENARIO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. YOU'RE CORRECT. SECTION OR TERM SEVEN UNDER THIS POLICY IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN IS NOT DETAILED INTO. AS TO WHAT THIS SAYS. IT JUST STATES THAT THE SOURCES ARE EXHAUSTED AND ACTIVITIES IN THE AREA WITH REGARDS TO EXISTING EXTRACTIVE RESOURCES ARE EXHAUSTED. THOSE ARE THE TWO TERMS IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN. THEY ARE USUALLY COMPLETED BY A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, USUALLY WITH A GEOSCIENCES, GEOTECHNICAL AND AGGREGATE BACKGROUND. SO THERE WOULD BE A CONSULTING FIRM HIRED BY A PROPONENT TO UNDERTAKE THIS SORT OF STUDY AND REVIEW OF THE SITE. THANK YOU. YEAH, I MEAN, WE KEEP ASKING ANY DEVELOPER FOR MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE, AND, YOU KNOW, PART OF OUR ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL ASKED FOR TO BE A PRIORITY IS THAT WE ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT, AND I DON'T THINK WE ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT BY ALWAYS ASKING FOR MORE AND MORE AND MORE, MORE AND MORE AND MORE. I THINK ACTUALLY YOU DO THE OPPOSITE. I THINK PEOPLE JUST GET FED UP OF GIVING YOU MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND THEY JUST SAY, FORGET IT SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE IT'S EASIER. SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THIS LITTLE ASK IS GOING TO PROBABLY START AT A 10,000 BILL , AND BECAUSE WE'RE NOT VERY PRESCRIPTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN, I MEAN, EXHAUSTED WHERE WITHIN THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE OR WITHIN LIKE THAT COMMUNITY. I MEAN, THERE'S NO OTHER GRAVEL EXTRACTION OR RESOURCE EXTRACTION DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. THERE IS A LITTLE BIT ACROSS THE HIGHWAY. DOES THAT COUNT? DOES THE STUFF COUNT THAT'S STARTED OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS BY NWT CONSTRUCTION AND [INAUDIBLE]? I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR THIS, WE NEED TO I THINK THE SCOPE RIGHT NOW IS JUST WAY TOO OPEN TO BE ASKING FOR THIS, BECAUSE IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY PLAN, IT'S NOT VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. SO UNLESS WE GET QUITE A BIT MORE SPECIFIC, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT MAYOR ALTY IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THE COMMUNITY PLANS DOES THAT IS REQUIRED IF WE DON'T ASK FOR IT WELL, THAT COULD TRIGGER SOMEBODY SAYING THAT THEY WANT TO APPEAL IT , BUT WHAT ARE WE REALLY ASKING FOR? SO I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT AT THIS TIME. I THINK IT'S JUST ANOTHER FINANCIAL BURDEN TRYING TO GET SOMETHING DONE IN THE CITY. JUST A QUICK QUESTION TO THE ADMINISTRATION BASED ON THAT COMMENT, I MEAN, YOU'VE TOLD US WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY REQUIRE OR WHAT TENDS TO BE THE PRACTICE , BUT IS THERE. IS THERE A SORT OF POLICY OR WORDING SOMEWHERE THAT SAYS WE MUST REQUIRE THIS FROM A QUALIFIED ENGINEER OR COUNCILLOR KONGE WAS CONCERNED THAT WE DON'T HAVE CLEAR PARAMETERS LAID OUT SOMEWHERE AND THAT WE WOULD JUST BE TAKING THE INITIATIVE TO REQUIRE THIS COME FROM AN ENGINEER OR SOMETHING, BUT IS THAT LAID OUT AS SOMETHING THAT IS REQUIRED OR IS THAT JUST GENERAL [00:10:05] PRACTICE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. I'LL ASK MS. WHITE IF SHE HAS SOME INTEL ON THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS A TWO PART QUESTION, SO I'M GOING TO ANSWER BOTH PARTS. I BELIEVE THE FIRST PART OF THE QUESTION WAS ASKING WHAT SPECIFICALLY OR WHAT AREA THE STUDY WOULD BE LOOKING AT, AND THE COMMUNITY PLAN ACTUALLY DOES IDENTIFY THAT IT WOULD BE ALL RESOURCES WITHIN THIS DESIGNATION. SO WITHIN THAT SPECIAL MANAGEMENT ZONE DESIGNATION, SO NOT OUTSIDE OF THE MUNICIPALITY, NOT ANY QUARRIES THAT ARE IN OTHER DESIGNATIONS. IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THIS DESIGNATION AND WHEN IT COMES TO WHO DOES THOSE STUDIES OR ARE WE JUST BASING THIS OFF OF BEST PRACTICE? SO YES, IT'S BEST PRACTICE, BUT THERE ARE TERMS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY PLAN WHERE STUDIES ARE REQUIRED THERE TO BE DONE BY A QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL. SO IF IT WAS A WATER STUDY, IT WOULD BE DONE BY A QUALIFIED HYDROGEOLOGIST. IN THIS CASE, IT WOULD BE A JUDGE. SO WE'D HAVE THE QUALIFIED PERSON TIED TO THE STUDY THAT COUNSEL WOULD BE ASKING FOR, AND SO THIS IS TIED INTO WHEN COUNSEL MAKES THESE DECISIONS FOR THESE USES UNDER THE ZONING BYLAW THAT AREN'T A PERMITTED USE. AS OF RIGHT, COUNCIL CAN DETERMINE WHAT STUDIES ARE DONE AND WHO THOSE QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS WOULD BE TO DO. IT'S JUST THE STANDARD PERSON TO DO IT. I WOULDN'T BE QUALIFIED TO DO IT, SO IT'D HAVE TO BE A PINCH WITH AN AGGREGATE OR EXTRACTIVE BACKGROUND. THANK YOU. SO JUST TO CONFIRM, THE STUDY WOULD LOOK AT WHETHER OTHER AGGREGATE RESOURCES ARE EXHAUSTED ONLY WITHIN SPECIAL MANAGEMENT ZONES, WITHIN CITY LIMITS. OK. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THE AMENDMENT? COUNCILLOR WILLIAMS. YEAH. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. YEAH, I'M. I'M VERY MUCH WITH COUNCILLOR KONGE ON THIS ONE. I CERTAINLY DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S. WELL, MAYBE I'LL PHRASE IT AS A QUESTION FIRST FOR ADMINISTRATION, JUST TO MAYBE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT'S WHAT THIS CLAUSE IS AFTER. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE REPORT OR THE CONTENT OF THE REPORT WOULD HOPE THAT IT COMMUNICATES THAT ALL OTHER AGGREGATE OR RESOURCES AND OTHER PLACES HAVE TO BE EXHAUSTED BEFORE NAHANNI CAN START PULLING AGGREGATE OUT OF THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION IN QUESTION. IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK WHAT WE HEARD WAS THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVE THAT AGGREGATE RESOURCES ARE EXHAUSTED, BUT ONLY WITHIN AREAS THAT ARE DESIGNATED AS SPECIAL MANAGEMENT ZONES WITHIN THE CITY, NOT OTHER ZONES, BUT MAYBE ADMINISTRATION CAN CONFIRM THAT AGAIN. THANK YOU, YOUR WORSHIP. THAT'S CORRECT, MS. WHITE, ANYTHING TO ADD? THANK YOU. YES, THAT'S CORRECT, AND THE COMMUNITY PLAN POLICY IS VERY SPECIFIC AND SAYS THAT UNLESS LANDS WITHIN THIS DESIGNATION ARE SPECIFICALLY RE DESIGNATED, THIS IS THE CONDITION. SO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THIS CONDITION, THEN YOU HAVE TO ENTER INTO THAT PROCESS WE SPOKE TO BEFORE, WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT OR DEVELOPMENT PLAN REZONING, ET CETERA. SO THE PERMITTED USE IN THIS DESIGNATION IS A QUARRY, AND TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN, THIS CONDITION MUST BE INCLUDED. TO ALLOW THAT PERMITTED USE FOR TO MOVE FORWARD. ANYTHING ELSE HAS TO GO THROUGH THAT OTHER PATHWAY, HOPEFULLY. THAT MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU. SO I GUESS MY SECOND QUESTION IS, IS YOU'RE SAYING THAT IF THIS CLAUSE ISN'T IN THERE, THEN THIS DEVELOPMENT PERMIT BASICALLY GRINDS TO A HALT, AND THEN HIS OTHER COURSE OF ACTION WOULD BE TO PURSUE THE AMENDMENT TO THE COMMUNITY PLAN, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME. IS THAT CORRECT? MS. BASSI-KELLETT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. YES, MS. WHITE, YOU CAN, YOU'RE OUR EXPERT. THANK YOU. I WOULDN'T USE THE TERM GRIND TO A HALT, BUT THE DECISION BEING MADE BY COUNCIL WOULD THEN NOT CONFORM TO YOUR POLICIES IN YOUR COMMUNITY PLAN, AND SO YOU WOULD THEN BE CREATING A DECISION THAT IS IN CONFLICT WITH YOUR POLICY. SO HOW YOU WOULD THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE CONDITIONS WOULD IT WOULD CREATE A PROBLEM? IS THERE ALWAYS AN ALTERNATIVE? YES. AS WE SPOKE ABOUT, THERE IS THE COMMUNITY PLAN AMENDMENT, AREA DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND REZONING PROCESS. THE PERMITTED USE HERE AGAIN IS QUARRY. SO TO BE A QUARRY, IT HAS TO FOLLOW THESE STEPS THAT HAVE BEEN OUTLINED, AND THAT WOULD THEN BE A DECISION OF COUNCIL THAT CONFORMS TO YOUR POLICIES. THANK YOU. YEAH. OKAY. I GUESS I'M COMING AROUND ON IT. YEAH, I CAN UNDERSTAND IT. SO IT BASICALLY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S A BONA FIDE REQUIREMENT OF CLASSIFICATION OF QUARRY. SO IF IT DOESN'T HAVE THIS CLAUSE IN THERE, IT THEREFORE UNDER OUR ZONING BYLAW OR COMMUNITY PLAN CANNOT BE CONSIDERED A QUARRY. [00:15:04] THEREFORE IT BASICALLY GRINDS TO A HALT ADMINISTRATION. MS. BASSI-KELLETT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES, THIS IS A REALLY INTEGRAL PART OF ENSURING THAT ALL OF THE PIECES THAT NEED TO BE PUT IN PLACE BY COUNCIL ARE THERE. MS. WHITE, ANYTHING TO ADD? THANK YOU. NO, NOTHING. NOTHING TO ADD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WELL, MAYBE I'M SOFTENING UP ON THAT ONE BECAUSE WE WOULD HATE TO GRIND THIS TO A HALT. SO, YEAH, I'D BE RECEPTIVE OPENING MY EARS, LISTENING TO REST OF THE COMMENTS. CERTAINLY OPENING. BE OPEN TO REVISED VERBIAGE IF THE MOVER HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS ON THAT, I DON'T KNOW. I GUESS I'M JUST NOT SEEING THE CLARITY IN IT. YEAH, WELL, IT'S PRETTY. SO BASICALLY IT'S JUST A REPORT SAYING THAT THE MARKET EXISTS AND THAT THERE'S A NEED IN OUR LOCAL MARKETPLACE IN THOSE SPECIFIC ZONES FOR THIS. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I'LL GIVE IT UP TO CYNTHIA HERE, BECAUSE I THINK SHE HAS SOME QUESTIONS. OKAY. COUNCILLOR MUFANDAEDZA? THANK YOU, WORSHIP. NO, NO QUESTIONS. I'M JUST KIND OF. ANY TIME THAT A BUSINESS HAS TO PUT UP MORE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO MEET ANY REQUIREMENTS IS ALWAYS A VERY DIFFICULT THING, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS PROJECT COME TO A HALT. SO IT ALMOST FEELS LIKE THERE'S YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION, BUT I DEFINITELY WOULD SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT IF THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO MAKE THIS PROJECT GO FORWARD, BECAUSE I WOULD HATE FOR US NOT TO BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD. SO I WILL SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT FOR THAT REASON. THANK YOU. OKAY. I WILL JUST SORT OF ASK A QUESTION FIRST, BUT THEN WE COULD GO AROUND AGAIN, AND I SUPPOSE YOU ONLY GET TO TALK WHEN YOU WANT TO CLOSE. RIGHT. OKAY. JUST QUICKLY, SO IF WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT SPECIAL MANAGEMENT ZONES WITHIN THE CITY IN TERMS OF WHETHER RESOURCES ARE EXHAUSTED, DOES ADMINISTRATION HAVE ANY INITIAL ADVICE ON OUR THOUGHTS ON WHETHER OR NOT THIS PROPOSAL WOULD PASS THAT TEST? DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE RESULTS OF SUCH A STUDY MIGHT BE? OH. MS. BASSI-KELLETT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION, YOUR WORSHIP. DIFFICULT ONE FOR US TO ASCERTAIN RIGHT NOW. I'LL SEE IF MS. WHITE HAS ANY IDEA. SHE'S INDICATING TO ME NO. AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS TYPICALLY DONE BY SOMEONE THAT'S GOT SOME EXPERTISE IN THE AREA. WE WE DON'T AT THE CITY. THIS IS NOT OUR BAILIWICK. THIS IS NOT WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT IF THIS USE DOES HAPPEN IN THE SPECIAL MANAGEMENT ZONE, IT DOES NEED TO BE VALID IN TERMS OF THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE THE MATERIAL IN A WAY THAT IS NOT OVER, OVER CREATING TOO MUCH OF THE MATERIAL IN THE SYSTEM WITHIN OUR CITY. THANK YOU. I MEAN, SO I'D BE WILLING TO SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT, GIVEN WHAT I'VE HEARD SO FAR, IN ORDER TO CONFORM TO OUR COMMUNITY PLAN, AND AS MAYOR ALTY POINTED OUT, WE DON'T. COULD ALSO CREATE LOTS OF NEW PROBLEMS IN THE SENSE OF OPENING THIS UP. IF WE DON'T DO THIS, THEN THERE'S GROUNDS FOR APPEAL AND A WHOLE NEW SET OF ROADBLOCKS UP HERE. SO WE'LL START SECOND ROUND. COUNCILLOR KONGE, YOU HAD MORE TO SAY THERE. SO, I MEAN, OUR NEW COMMUNITY PLAN AND ZONING BYLAW, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO COME UP WHERE WE REALIZE THAT WE DIDN'T GET AT 100% RATE THE FIRST TIME, WHICH PRETTY MUCH KNEW THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO DO, BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE ASKING A DEVELOPER TO GO OUT AND HIRE AN ENGINEER TO CREATE A REPORT SO THAT THE CITY CAN BE SATISFIED THAT THE RESOURCES ARE DEPLETED IN THESE TYPES OF ZONE, AND WE REALLY NEED TO DO THIS. SO FOLLOW THE MONEY. WHO'S PAYING FOR IT? ALL RIGHT. THE DEVELOPER IS. WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT REPORT IS GOING TO SAY? THIS IS JUST IT'S A MONEY GRAB. IT'S THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND IN ORDER TO APPEASE THE CITY. AND OUR PROCESS THAT, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IS COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY, TIME AND RESOURCES BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER IS PAYING FOR THE REPORT. WHAT'S THE REPORT GOING TO SAY? I CAN PRETTY MUCH TELL YOU WHAT THE BOARD'S GOING TO SAY. DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO HIRE SOMEBODY. THEY'RE GOING TO WRITE THE FIRST REPORT. HE'S GOING TO LOOK AT IT AND GO, OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS GOT CHANGED. THIS GOT CHANGED. THIS GOT TO CHANGE THIS LIKE, COME ON NOW, THIS ISN'T HOW IT'S GOING TO BE, AND HE'S GOING TO GET A REPORT THAT SAYS EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTS US TO SAY. [00:20:05] WE NEED TO DO THIS. AWESOME. SOUNDS LIKE A SUGGESTION THAT WE SHOULD AMEND THE COMMUNITY PLAN OK. ARE THERE ANY OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS ON THAT? GOOD TO CLOSE. WE WILL TAKE A VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AND OPPOSED. COUNCILLOR PAYNE IN FAVOR. SO THAT PASSES WITH COUNCILLOR KONGE OPPOSED, AND I'LL PASS THE CHAIR BACK TO ME. THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. JUST SPEAKING BACK TO THE ACTUAL ORIGINAL AMENDMENT. I JUST SAW ONE LITTLE DISCREPANCY THAT MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING, BUT ONE AND TWO, THEY TALK ABOUT IT BEING TEN YEARS, BUT THEN IN NUMBER TWO, IT GOES ON THAT THEY NEED TO DO THE RENEWAL. NO, SIX MONTHS PRIOR TO THE FIVE MONTH OR FIVE YEAR TERM. SHOULDN'T THAT ALSO BE TEN YEAR? OH, PERHAPS MS. BASSI-KELLETT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. THERE WAS DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH ON THIS AT THE JUNE 27TH MEETING. I'LL ASK MS. WHITE IF SHE RECOLLECTS WHAT THIS WAS AND IF THERE IS A REASON FOR THIS. YEAH. SORRY, MS. BASSI-KELLETT, I'M SEEING THAT THE ORIGINAL ONE WAS THE DEVELOPMENT. IS PERMITTED FOR FIVE YEARS AND THEN SIX MONTHS PRIOR TO THE EXPIRATION. SO A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION IN THE AGENDA SHOULD BE TO SHOULD BE NOT LATER THAN SIX MONTHS PRIOR TO THE EXPIRATION OF THE TEN YEAR TERM AND NOT FIVE YEAR TERM. WE'LL NOTE THAT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. OPENING IT UP TO QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL OR QUESTIONS. COMMENTS? DISCUSSION? COUNCILLOR MORGAN? THANKS. SO. FOLLOWING UP ON OUR DISCUSSION, I KNOW LOTS OF THINGS, LOTS OF ASPECTS OF THIS WERE DISCUSSED AT THE GPC. I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT. I KNOW IT'S A DIFFICULT SITUATION BECAUSE IT SEEMS CLEAR THAT A QUARRY IS NOT WHAT THE PROPONENT IS ACTUALLY OUT FOR HERE OR WHAT THE GOAL IS HERE. THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO SOME GRADING ON THE LOT, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT THIS CATEGORY OF NATURAL RESOURCE EXTRACTION IS SEEMS LIKE THE ONLY WAY FORWARD AT THIS POINT WITHOUT SORT OF OPENING BACK UP THE COMMUNITY PLAN AND GOING THROUGH REZONING, AND, AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND IT'S TRICKY BECAUSE THIS IS A PRIVATE LOT. KIND OF AN ISLAND IN A SEA OF GENERALLY PUBLIC LAND OR OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ZONED AS SOMETHING SPECIFIC. AND IDEALLY, WHENEVER THERE'S SOME SORT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT, WE WANT TO. THERE'S A REASON WHY WE HAVE PLANNING PROCESSES AND WANT TO THINK ABOUT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD AS A WHOLE, AND WHAT DO WE ENVISION FOR THAT AND HOW DOES IT FIT WITHIN THE BIGGER PICTURE? AND THERE'S GOOD REASONS TO DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE THESE LITTLE SORT OF ISLANDS WHICH ARE PRIVATE LOTS ARE, AS COUNCILLOR KONGE SORT OF USED THE TERM IN OUR LAST MEETING, THEY'RE SORT OF STRANDED IN A WAY, HAVING NOT BEEN PART OF LARGER SPECIFIC PLANNING PROCESSES. I MEAN, IT IS HAS BEEN PART OF IT IN THE SENSE OF, WELL, WE'LL JUST SET IT ASIDE AS A SPECIAL MANAGEMENT ZONE TO BE SORT OF SORTED THROUGH LATER THE DETAILS OF WHAT THAT SHOULD LOOK LIKE. SO, IN THINKING IT THROUGH. I MEAN, IT'S A PRIVATE LOT AND IT'S UNLIKELY THAT. IT WILL BECOME AVAILABLE AGAIN, JUST AS SORT OF A CITY OWNED NATURAL GREENSPACE. [00:25:01] I THINK THAT'S UNREALISTIC AND UNLIKELY GIVEN THAT IT'S ALREADY A PRIVATE LOT AND OWNED AND THERE'S ALREADY A DWELLING ON IT, AND SO GIVEN THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE GRADING PART IS SORT OF A FIRST STEP TO SOMETHING ELSE BEING DEVELOPED ON THIS LOT LATER ON, AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THAT WHEN A PLAN IS IN PLACE THAT WILL NEED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND THAT WILL NEED TO GO THROUGH LONG PROCESSES OF REZONING AND DISCUSSIONS WILL HAVE TO BE HAD AT THAT POINT WITHIN COUNCIL AS TO IF IT'S GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL. IS THAT PART OF THE CITY'S PLAN TO PUT RESIDENTIAL THERE? IS IT IF IT'S GOING TO BE A BUSINESS OF SOME KIND OR IS IT GOING TO BE A LARGER QUARRY, WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO BE, THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH DEDICATED PLANNING PROCESSES AT A LATER DATE. FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE. SO I THINK I'M OKAY AT THIS POINT WITH ALLOWING WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY GRADING TO GO AHEAD, WHICH MAY HAPPEN OVER THE TEN YEAR PERIOD AND MAYBE DURING THE NEXT REVISION OR REVISITING OF THE COMMUNITY PLAN. WHATEVER NEXT IS PROPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED ON THIS SITE WILL GO THROUGH THAT SORT OF LONGER, DETAILED PROCESS OF HOW THIS AFFECTS THE ENTIRE AREA AND THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT IS APPROPRIATE, WHAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT IS APPROPRIATE THERE. SO THAT PROCESS STILL HAS TO TAKE PLACE, BUT. I'M REASONABLY COMFORTABLE THAT THIS INITIAL GRADING. WON'T NECESSARILY DETERMINE WHAT THAT NEXT STEP OR EVENTUAL DEVELOPMENT WILL BE AND THAT THOSE DISCUSSIONS LATER ON STILL CAN TAKE PLACE AS THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO. SO I GUESS THAT'S A LONG WINDED WAY OF SAYING I'M WILLING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION AS AMENDED, EVEN THOUGH I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS NOT THE IDEAL WAY TO GO ABOUT PLANNING AND DECIDING WHAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. IDEALLY, WE WOULD BE MOVING FORWARD IN AN ORDERLY WAY AROUND THE PERIPHERY OF THE CITY WITH PLAN PROCESSES OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED, HOW AND WHERE, BUT LIFE DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK OUT IN OUR IDEAL, ORDERLY PLANNED SCENARIOS. SO I AM WILLING TO FOR THOSE REASONS, I'M WILLING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION AS AMENDED. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? DISCUSSION? FOR MYSELF, AND AS A REMINDER, WE'RE IN THIS APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED IN OUR OLD ZONING BYLAWS THAT WE'RE USING ZONING BYLAW NUMBER 4404. SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE CONDITIONS THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER BEFORE APPROVING, IT'S THE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES IN REGARDS TO AIRBORNE EMISSIONS ODORS, SMOKE, TRAFFIC, NOISE, SUN SHADOWS AND WIND EFFECTS, AND SO, YES, DURING THIS THE BLESSING PROCESS, IT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT, BUT RIGHT NOW THERE AREN'T ANY NEIGHBORS EXCEPT FOR A GOLD MINE THAT'S GETTING CLEANED UP. SO I DON'T THINK THAT HAS AN IMPACT. THE DESIGN, CHARACTER AND APPEARANCE OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, I DO THINK IS IMPORTANT. OF COURSE, IT'S ON THE SHORES OF GREAT SLAVE LAKE. HOWEVER, THAT'S WHY I THINK THE CONDITION THAT WE PUT ON THIS APPLICATION ABOUT IT HAVING THE SHORELINE SETBACK AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY, THE SHORELINE SETBACK IS TREES AND THE OLD CABIN AND IT'S THE ROCK FACE BEHIND, AND SO FROM THE LAKE, YOU'LL STILL SEE THE TREES. IT WILL BE MORE OF A CLIFF IN THE BACK VERSUS KIND OF THE SLOPING DOWN, BUT I DO THINK THAT THE SHORELINE IS A CONDITION THAT NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE CONDITIONS, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE CONDITION ABOUT NO DAMAGE OR NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE HISTORIC DWELLING. SO I THINK THAT THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT MEETS WHAT IS THAT, CONDITION 3.4, 3.2, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS ABOUT SITE CONSIDERATIONS, INCLUDING LANDSCAPING, SCREENING, PARKING, LOADING, OPEN SPACE, LIGHTING AND SIGNS, AND [00:30:10] AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S SIMILAR TO POINT TWO ABOUT ENSURING THAT WE HAVE THE SETBACKS AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT THE HISTORIC SPACE IS KEPT, AND I THINK THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS THAT SHOULD BE PUT ON IT FROM A COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE, RECOGNIZING THAT THE NEXT STEP OF THE PROCESS IS FOR STAFF TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE ZONING BYLAW AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT PERMITS IN ACCORDANCE WITH WITH THE REST OF THE BYLAW AND HAVING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT HAS CONDITIONS THAT ALL OTHER QUARRIES HAVE IN IT. SO IT'S NOT SAYING THAT THESE ARE THE ONLY CONDITIONS THAT WILL BE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BUT THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS THAT NEED TO BE PUT ON POLITICALLY BECAUSE IT'S NOT ADDRESSED BY THE ZONING BYLAW OR IT'S BEEN TOUCHED ON IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN. SO I THINK THESE ARE THE POLITICAL CONDITIONS THAT NEED TO BE PUT ON IT AND THE REST OF THE CONDITIONS ARE ALREADY IDENTIFIED IN THE ZONING BYLAW OR IS ALREADY PART OF OUR OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WITH QUARRIES. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE MOTION AS AMENDED. ANYTHING FURTHER FROM COUNCIL, SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION AS AMENDED. IN FAVOR. AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. NEXT WE HAVE THE APPOINTMENT OF MEMBERS TO SERVE ON THE MAYOR'S TASK FORCE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL MEMBER MUFANDAEDZA? [5. That Council appoint representatives to serve on the Mayor’s Task Force on Economic Development:] THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YOUR WORSHIP. I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPOINT REPRESENTATIVES TO SERVE ON THE MAYOR'S TASK FORCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS FOLLOWS ORGANIZATION SORRY. TOURISM, JOE BAILEY, MINERALS AND KELLY BRENDAN AGRICULTURE AND FISHERIES. KYLE THOMAS AVIATION. TRANSPORTATION AND LOGISTICS. PETER HOLLING POST-SECONDER PATRICK [INAUDIBLE] BUSINESS OWNER. SHAUN ICE DETENTION CORPORATION. JOHN HENDERSON, YELLOWKNIFE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, ROB WARBURTON, NWT AND NUNAVUT CHAMBER OF MINES. KENNY POTASH. CIUDADANO FRANCOIS FAIN. ANY ADDITIONAL REPRESENTATIVES AS DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY CONSOLE. MARK BRIDGER THANK YOU. DO HAVE A SECONDER? COUNCILLOR KONGE? ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. IN FAVOR. AND THAT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY, AND WITH THAT WE COME TO THE CONCLUSION OF OUR SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING. SORRY IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOVED BY COUNCILLOR WILLIAMS, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR MUFANDAEDZA. ANYBODY OPPOSED? SEEING NONE. WE WILL SEE EVERYBODY AT OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS GPC GOVERNANCE AND PRIORITIES COMMITTEE NEXT MONDAY, JULY 25TH AT 12:05 P.M. SEE YOU ALL THEN. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.