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>> I'LL CALL OUR GOVERNANCE AND PRIORITIES COMMITTEE MEETING FOR MONDAY, JUNE SIX 2022 TO ORDER AND I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE IS LOCATED IN CHIEF DRYGEESE TERRITORY.
FROM TIME MEMORIAL, IT'S BEEN THE TRADITIONAL LAND OF THE YELLOWKNIVES DENE FIRST NATION.
WE RESPECT THE HISTORIES, LANGUAGES, AND CULTURES OF ALL OTHER INDIGENOUS PEOPLES, INCLUDING THE NORTH SLAVE MÉTIS, AND ALL OTHER FIRST NATIONS, MÉTIS, AND INUIT WHOSE PRESENCE CONTINUES TO ENRICH OUR VIBRANT COMMUNITY.
NEXT, WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD MISS BASSI KELLETT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU. NEXT, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM REPRESENTATIVES OF
[1. A presentation from representatives of the Yellowknife Airport regarding proposed options for future development.]
THE YELLOWKNIFE AIRPORT REGARDING PROPOSED OPTIONS FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, MISS.BASSI KELLETT, DID YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM OR JUST HAND IT OVER RIGHT AWAY? PERFECT. OKAY AND I SEE MR. RANDY STRAKER AND MR. GARY BRENNAN HERE.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM AND YOU CAN JUST PRESS THE BUTTON AND IT SHOULD START.
GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE.
WE'RE HAPPY TO COME AND SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE YELLOWKNIFE AIRPORT AND OUR PLANS FOR THE FUTURE HERE AS IT RELATES TO THE MASTER PLAN THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN DEVELOPMENT WITH.
IT'S ACTUALLY A CONSOLIDATED MASTER PLAN.
TODAY I'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE YELLOWKNIFE AIRPORT AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THE CURRENT FIVE SCENARIOS THAT CAME OUT OF OUR MXD ECONOMIC ANALYSIS, AND THE OPTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US.
ONCE I'M DONE THEN I'LL PROVIDE YOU A STATUS OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY AS FAR AS PASSENGER AND AIRCRAFT MOVEMENTS TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHERE WE ARE IN OUR TIMELINES, AND THEN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CURRENT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT IS UNDERWAY TODAY.
ALL RIGHT, YELLOWKNIFE AIRPORT.
MISSION STATEMENT FOR YELLOWKNIFE AIRPORT IS TO PROVIDE AND PROMOTE SAFE, SECURE, RELIABLE, AND SUSTAINABLE AIR TRANSPORTATION THAT DRIVES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS THAT STRENGTHEN CONNECTIONS, CAPTURE OPPORTUNITIES, EMBRACE INNOVATION.
WE'RE A CERTIFIED AIRPORT UNDER THE NATIONAL AIRPORT SYSTEM, BASICALLY, THAT'S JUST ALL THE AIRPORTS, IT USED TO BE FEDERALLY RUN AND OWNED THAT HAVE BEEN PRIVATIZED OR RUN BY OTHER GOVERNMENTS.
WE HAVE A NAV CANADA OUT THERE, WE OPERATE 24/7, SO THERE'S LIGHT SERVICES OUT THERE 24/7, 365 DAYS A YEAR.
WE HAVE TWO RUNWAYS CURRENTLY, ONE AT 7500 FEET, ONE AT 5000 FEET, AND WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED CATEGORY SIX FIRE FIGHTING CAPABILITIES AND WE HAVE THEM IN SERVICE FROM FIVE AM IN THE MORNING TILL 01:00 AM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S 365 DAYS A YEAR.
ON OUR FIELD WE ALSO HAVE AIRFIELD MAINTENANCE AGAIN, THESE GUYS WORK 365 SEVEN DAYS A WEEK DURING THE WINTER OPERATIONS THERE ARE FOUR AM TILL 01:00 AM.
WE ALSO HAVE HEAVY EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE FACILITY AND AIRFIELD ELECTRICAL.
OUR TERMINAL, IT'S A FULL-SERVICE TERMINAL.
WE HAVE COMMON USE CHECK-IN, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS ANY AIRLINE THAT IS SUBSCRIBED TO COME AND USE CAN CHECK IN FROM ANY COUNTER, OR ANY GATE, WHICH REALLY GIVES US A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY.
WHEN NEW CARRIERS COME IN, WE GET THEM ONTO THAT SYSTEM, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE AND SHUFFLE AS NEEDED DEPENDING ON TRAFFIC.
WE HAVE A CAT SURPLUS PRE-BOARDING.
I KNOW WE HEAR A LOT OF COMPLAINTS WE DID A LOT OF WORK ON BOTH OUR PRE-BOARD AND OUR SECURITY SCREENING TO TRY IN OUR SPACE, ENHANCE MOVEMENT THROUGH THAT AND WE HAVE TWO INBOUND BAGGAGE BELTS.
WE HAVE SPACE FOR AIRLINE OFFICES AND FACILITIES IN THE TERMINAL, FREE WI-FI, AND FOOD AND BEVERAGE SERVICES.
THE TERMINAL ITSELF WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1967.
WE'VE HAD MODIFICATIONS AND ADDITIONS IN 1998, AND THEN ANOTHER ADDITION IN 2005.
THE CURRENT BUILDING, AS IT STANDS, IS ABOUT 5500 SQUARE METERS, AND THAT INCLUDES THE OLD ANNEX TRAILERS ON THE SOUTH GATE FIVE IS DOWN THERE PLUS SOME OFFICES.
I WON'T GET IN TOO MUCH ON THIS SLIDE BECAUSE I'M SURE MOST OF YOU KNOW WHAT A MASTER PLAN IS, BUT I WILL JUST HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF POINTS ON HERE AS IT RELATES TO WHY WE'RE DOING AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD.
IT'S A RECOMMENDATION FOR CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN THE SHORT, MEDIUM, AND LONG TERM TO MEET THE CURRENT AND FUTURE DEMAND.
THE LOCATION OF THE TERMINAL IS AN ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN AIRPORT AND ITS ACTIVITIES.
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TRIGGERS IN AIR PASSENGER AND AIRCRAFT MOVEMENT WILL DETERMINE WHEN THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE AIR TERMINAL BUILDING WILL MOVE FORWARD.TRIGGERS ARE ESTABLISHED IN OUR WORLD BASED ON A CREED LEVEL OF THROUGHPUT, STUFF LIKE ANNUAL AIRCRAFT MOVEMENTS, ANNUAL PASSENGER MOVEMENTS, OR EVEN HOURLY PEAK PASSENGER MOVEMENT.
WHEN IT REALLY STARTS GETTING CONGESTED, IT WILL TRIGGER DEVELOPMENT.
THE BIG THING AS WE LOOK AT THE MASTER PLAN AND LOOKING AHEAD, IT MAXIMIZES THE RISK OF COMPROMISING OR MINIMIZES THE RISK OF COMPROMISING THE AIRPORT'S ULTIMATE DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL AND THE OPTIMAL FUTURE.
WE DON'T WANT TO START DEVELOPING AREAS THAT POTENTIALLY WOULD INFRINGE ON WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE DOING.
IN 2018, STAN TECH COMPLETED A 20-YEAR MASTER PLAN.
PHASE ONE INCLUDED A BUNCH OF RENOVATIONS MOST OF THOSE WE HAVE COMPLETED, EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T REALLY ADOPT THE MASTER PLAN AT THE TIME.
PHASE TWO INCLUDES BUILDING ADDITIONS TO OUR EXISTING STRUCTURE AND PHASE THREE IN THE MASTER PLAN THEY DEVELOPED INVOLVED THE NEW AIR TERMINAL BUILDING ON THE WEST SIDE.
TRIGGERS FOR PHASES TWO AND THREE WERE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS AND AIRCRAFT MOVEMENTS.
IN THE REPORT, THEY SAID THE TWO RUNWAYS WERE DEEMED ADEQUATE ACROSS THE 20 YEAR PLANNING HORIZON.
HOWEVER, RUNWAY EXTENSIONS WERE RECOMMENDED FOR BOTH RUNWAYS.
PHASE THREE, THE NEW TERMINAL BUILDING ON THE WEST SIDE, AS OUTLINED IN THE MASTER PLAN, HAD FOUR HOLD ROOM GATES, SEATING FOR 300, A FULL CBSA FACILITY FOR INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS.
THREE CARTS FOR SCREENING LINES, UPPER-LEVEL OFFICES IN GENERAL CONCESSION.
CONCESSION SPACE BOTH ON LAND SIDE AND AIR SIDE.
IN 2017, OUR PASSENGERS SAT AT APPROXIMATELY 625 THOUSAND PASSENGERS A YEAR AND COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT MOVEMENTS WERE RIGHT AROUND 31 THOUSAND.
IN THIS PLAN, PHASE TWO IS TRIGGERED BY AN INCREASE OF TRAFFIC TO 840 AND HONESTLY, IF WE'RE MOVING AT ABOUT FOUR PERCENT A YEAR INCREASE, WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN CLOSE TO THAT THIS YEAR HAD NOT COVID HAPPENED.
PHASE 3 TRIGGERED BY PASSENGER ACTIVITY.
THERE'S AN EXCESS OF 1 MILLION PASSENGERS.
SO THAT WOULD HAVE TRIGGERED OUR MOVE TO THE WEST SIDE UNDER THEIR PLAN.
THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT, BASED ON THE 2018 REPORT FOR THE THREE PHASES WAS AROUND $300 MILLION.
UPON RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ECONOMIC ADVISORY COUNCIL, IT WAS FOUND FUTURE GROWTH DEVELOPMENT AREAS FOR AIRPORTS, ROLE IN THE ECONOMY WERE NOT ADDRESSED IN THE STAN TECH MASTER PLAN.
AS A RESULT, MXD WAS HIRED TO ASSESS, IDENTIFY, AND DEFINE A MARKET AND MARKET ECONOMIC ANALYSIS AND AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM FOR YZF.
THE EXPLORED FIVE ALTERNATIVES RANGING FROM CONSERVATIVE TO AGGRESSIVE, AND THAT'S WHAT I'LL BE SHARING WITH YOU MOMENTARILY.
IN 2021, DILLON WAS HIRED TO DELIVER CONSOLIDATED MASTER PLAN FOR YZF.
DILLON WAS ASKED TO ANALYZE A STANTEC 20-YEAR MASTER PLAN AND THE MXD MARKET ECONOMIC ANALYSIS, CONDUCT STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENTS ON THE FIVE EXISTING OPTIONS.
RECOMMEND A DEVELOPMENT OPTION FOR THE AIRPORT.
PREPARE A FINAL CONSOLIDATED 20-YEAR MASTER PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES NEW FORECASTS AND FINANCIALS AND TODAY WE COMPLETED THE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENTS IN MARCH, WHICH THE CITY WAS A PART OF, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY OUT WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC SURVEY WHICH CLOSES JUNE 10TH.
[NOISE] THAT GETS US INTO THE SCENARIOS.
I JUST LIKE TO SAY UP FRONT, EACH SCENARIO DRAWING INCLUDES REFERENCES TO THINGS LIKE HOTELS, RETAIL, OFFICE, FLEX, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
THIS WAS JUST IT'S NOT A PLANNING TOOL, IS JUST CONCEPT MARKETS IDENTIFIED THE MXD REPORT IDENTIFYING TARGET MARKETS THAT WOULD COMPLEMENT THE AIR TERMINAL BUILDING AND AIRPORT OPERATIONS AND COULD POTENTIALLY BE IDENTIFIED AS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ZONING AREAS.
THEY WOULD NOT BE DEVELOPED OR RUN BY THE ONLY FAIR PORT OR THE GNWT, BUT COULD BE DEVELOPED BY POTENTIAL LEASE TENANTS IF THERE WAS A MARKET DEMAND.
YOU'LL ALSO SEE A REFERENCE IN THERE.
SOME OF THE MAPS, NORTHERN INNOVATION HUB, AGAIN, JUST A CONCEPT IDENTIFIED BY MXD IDENTIFIED THE REPURPOSING OF AN EXISTING AIR TERMINAL BUILDING IF AND WHEN THE NEW TERMINAL WAS BUILT.
AGAIN, THEY'RE JUST PLACEHOLDERS, THEY DON'T PUT ANY WEIGHT ON WHAT THEY SAY AS ANYTHING SENTENCED STONE.
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FINALLY, THE PURPOSE OF THE ENGAGEMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN PARTICIPATING IN HERE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS IS TO DETERMINE LOCATION, NOT TO DETERMINE THE SPECIFICS OF THE AIR TERMINAL BUILDING, AND NEW SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT, AND I THINK THAT'S CITIES PROBABLY FACING SAME PROBLEMS TODAY WITH YOUR COLLEGE.I THINK I HEARD MERYL T ON THE RADIO LAST WEEK ON TRAIL BLAZER TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE BEING 12 STEPS AHEAD AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FINDING IN OUR PROSTITUTES.
I'LL LET PEOPLE ARE LIKE ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE BRIDGES? ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE THIS? YEAH. THIS HAS REALLY BEEN FOCUSED ON WHAT IS THE BEST LOCATION FOR YOU ONLY FAIR PORT FOR THE OPERATIONS FOR THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE AND FOR THE TERRITORY.
IN SAYING THAT THERE'S FIVE DEVELOPMENT AREAS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED BY MXD.
THE FIRST IS THE CURRENT LOCATION OFF HIGHWAY 3.
THE SECOND OPTION IS IN THE NORTHEAST CURRENTLY ON BRISTOL AVENUE.
SCENARIOS 3 AND 4 ARE IN THE SOUTHEAST IN AN AREA THAT IS NOT DEVELOPED AT ALL, EXCEPT FOR SOME OF OUR OWN TRAINING AND NAVIGATION FACILITIES AND AN AREA OF FIVE ON THE WEST SIDE WHICH HAS LONG BEEN DEVELOPMENT SITE, IDENTIFIED FROM YEARS PAST AS POTENTIAL NEW TERMINAL.
THEY REPRESENT A RANGE OF OPTIONS FROM EXPANDING THE CURRENT TERMINAL BUILDING TO BUILDING A COMPLETELY NEW TERMINAL.
STAKEHOLDERS WERE ASKED WHAT THEIR VIEW WAS OF EACH OPTION AND WHAT DIRECTION YOU THINK IS BEST FOR THE AIRPORT.
OPTION 1, AS REDEVELOPING THE EXISTING TERMINAL.
IN THIS SCENARIO ARE REDEVELOPING THE EXISTING TERMINAL AND THAT WOULD BE THROUGH RENOVATION INITIALLY AND THEN AS LEVELS GREW, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT ADDITIONS.
THERE'D BE A SMALL AREA JUST TO THE NORTH OF THE TERMINAL FOR DEVELOPMENT, IF DESIRED.
THEN A MINOR DEVELOPMENT ON THE WEST SIDE AND SERVICE LOTS ON THE WEST SIDE.
ROAD SUPPORT FUTURE CARGO LOGISTICS AND INDUSTRIAL.
IT'S NOT A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT ON THE WEST SIDE AND THEN JUST STATUS QUO, WE WOULD KEEP REACTING TO PASSENGER TRENDS AND TRY AND BUILD IN OUR CURRENT LOCATION.
MXD CAME BACK THROUGH THE CONSULTATION PHASE AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY POSTED BASED ON THOSE CONSULTATIONS.
THE COMPETITIVE STRENGTHS OF OPTION 1, OBVIOUSLY IT'S THE LEAST EXPENSIVE OPTION.
WE'RE NOT BREAKING NEW GROUND, WE'RE NOT PUTTING IN WATER AND SEWER.
REMAINS ON HIGHWAY 3, WHICH IS CONSIDERABLE A FAVORABLE ACCESS POINT AND MOST AVIATION RELATED ACTIVITY REMAINS IN ONE GENERAL AREA, SO THE EXISTING TENANTS AND OPERATORS WOULDN'T HAVE ANY MAJOR IMPACT ON THEM BECAUSE WE WOULD REMAIN WHERE WE ARE, SO ACCESS WOULD BE EASY.
CHALLENGES; LIMITED SPACE, CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE RUNWAY, AND CONFINED APRON SPACE.
WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY ABILITY IN OUR CURRENT LOCATION, LARGER AIRCRAFTS AS EVEN A CHALLENGE WHEN WE HAVE LARGE AIRCRAFT IN TOWN.
IT'S A CHALLENGE BECAUSE OF OUR NEARNESS TO THE RUNWAY, TAIL HEIGHT AND SOME OF THE REGULATIONS PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THAT AND WE REALLY HAVE NOWHERE TO GROW ON THE APRON.
SO MORE FLIGHTS, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO NEAR SLOTTED HERE, HERE, HERE, AS OPPOSED TO COME WHEN YOU WANT.
FRAGMENTED, WE CAN ONLY DEVELOP IN A SMALL AREA OF LAND.
IT ONLY EXTENDS THE LIFE OF THE EXISTING BUILDING, AND IT DOESN'T CONSIDER ANY ADDITIONAL AIR SIDE LOTS.
IN THIS PLAN, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY GROWTH OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY ADDITIONAL AIR SITE OPERATORS.
SCENARIO 2, THIS IS REDEVELOPING THE NORTH AREA WITH A NEW TERMINAL.
THIS SCENARIO WE'D MIGRATE EXISTING AIR SIDE ROW TENANTS, WHICH IS WHAT MXD.
BUT BASICALLY ANYONE ON BRISTOL AVENUE WHICH IS BASICALLY ALL OUR OPERATORS.
WE WOULD MOVE THEM TO THE WEST AREA AND ON THIS MAP IT WOULD BE REPRESENTED IN THAT THOSE TWO ORANGE BARS THERE WOULD CONSTRUCT A NEW AIR TERMINAL IN THE NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
WE WOULD CONSTRUCT WATER AND SANITARY SEWER SERVICES AND WE WOULD REPURPOSE THE OLD AIR TERMINAL BUILDING FOR A NEW USE.
ON THE WEST AREA, WE CONSTRUCT ROADS BUT NO WATER AND SANITARY TO FACILITATE LOGISTICS AND AIR SIDE CARGO, INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT [NOISE] AND WE WOULD HAVE TO CONSTRUCT NEW TAXI WAYS TO SUPPORT MULTIPLE TENANTS.
COMPETITIVE STRENGTHS, FAVORABLE LOCATION, AGAIN, OFF HIGHWAY THREE AND OLD AIRPORT ROAD.
WE WOULD HAVE A CRITICAL MASS OF AVIATION ON THE WEST SIDE AND WE WOULD BE CLOSER TO WATER AND SEWER AND WE WOULD HAVE A POTENTIAL FOR COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL USE ON THE WEST SIDE.
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SOME OF THE CHALLENGES, MIGRATION, RELOCATION OF EXISTING TENANTS WOULD BE HUGELY EXPENSIVE TO ONLY FAIRPORT AND TO THE TENETS.THERE WOULD BE NO EASY ACCESS FROM THE WEST SIDE TO THE TERMINAL FOR OPERATORS.
JUST BY THE NATURE OF OUR PRIMARY RUNWAY, THERE WOULD BE NO WAY FOR OPERATORS THAT WE'RE OPERATING FLIGHTS OUT OF THE MAIN TERMINAL TO MOVE CARGO UNLESS THEY USE THE HIGHWAY UNDER THE CURRENT LAYOUT OF THE AIRPORT.
TENANTS HAVE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN THEIR CURRENT PROPERTIES, WHICH IS ALSO A CHALLENGE.
SCENARIO 3, THIS IS DEVELOPING A NEW AIR TERMINAL AND THE SOUTHEAST AREA.
WE WOULD TIE TO WATER AND SEWER AND CREATE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ZONED AREAS IN THE NORTH OR SORRY, THE EXISTING TERMINAL WOULD BE REPURPOSED IN THE WEST AREA SIMILAR TO SCENARIO 1, WE WOULD JUST PUT A MINIMUM SERVICES THERE, SO CONSTRUCTION OF ROADS BUT NO WATER AND SANITARY TO FACILITATE LOGISTICS AND THEIR SIDE CARGO AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AS FAR AS THE WESTSIDE GOES, IT WILL BE VERY SIMILAR TO OPTION 1.
VERY LITTLE ACTIVITY AT THIS TIME.
SCENARIO 3, AGAIN, COMPETITIVE STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES.
IT'S A FAVORABLE LOCATION, AGAIN, CLOSE TO HIGHWAY 3 AND OLD AIRPORT ROAD.
OUT OF ALL THE OPTIONS, IT'S THE CLOSEST TO EXISTING CITY SERVICES, WATER AND SEWER.
IT PLACES THE TERMINAL BETWEEN TWO RUNWAYS SO THERE'S REDUCED TAXI TIMES AND BACKTRACKING OF AIRCRAFT GIVES US LOTS OF ROOM TO GROW AND BEST LOCATION FOR CLUSTERING AVIATION NEW AND EXISTING.
THE EXISTING TENANTS WOULD HAVE EASY ACCESS INTO THAT AREA.
WE COULD MAKE ALLOWANCES FOR THEM TO GET OVER THERE AND THEN OF COURSE, WE WOULD HAVE NEW DEVELOPMENT THERE AND HOPEFULLY NEW NEW AVIATION RELATED TENANTS.
UNDER CHALLENGES, UNCERTAINTY AROUND DEVELOP A LAND AND PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ONE IN THAT AREA IS GOING TO BE NOISE CONCERNS.
SCENARIO 4 IS BASICALLY A CARBON COPY OF THREE.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT THERE'S MORE DEVELOPMENT IN THE NORTHWEST, AND IF YOU SEE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THIS PHOTO, THERE'S MORE LOGISTICS AND THERE'S SIDE CARGO INCLUDED IN THIS.
IT'S A LITTLE MORE AGGRESSIVE, A LITTLE MORE MONEY INVOLVED JUST BECAUSE WE'RE SPENDING SOME TIME DEVELOPING IN THE NORTHWEST.
AGAIN, FAVORABLE LOCATION CLOSE TO EXISTING SERVICES, LOTS OF ROOM TO GROW AND THE SAME CHALLENGES, UNCERTAINTY AROUND DEVELOPABLE LAND AND NOISE CONCERNS.
[NOISE] THE FINAL SCENARIO, OPTION 5.
AGAIN, THIS SCENARIO HAS BEEN ALONG PROBABLY 25-30 YEARS, THE WESTSIDE DEVELOPMENT IS BASED ON PREVIOUS MASTER PLANS.
IN THIS SCENARIO, NEW TERMINAL IN THE WEST AREA, WE'LL CONSTRUCT A ROAD THAT INCLUDES WATER AND SANITARY, SEWER SERVICES, AIR SIDE CARGO, INDUSTRIAL AND GROUND SIDE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND WE CREATE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ZONED AREAS.
AGAIN, THE EXISTING TERMINAL REPURPOSED INTO SOME OTHER USE.
UNDER SCENARIO 5, COMPETITIVE STRENGTHS.
AGAIN, ACCESS IS GOOD OFF DEH CHO BOULEVARD AND THERE'S AMPLE SPACE FOR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.
UNDER CHALLENGES, OBVIOUSLY IT'S THE LONGEST DISTANCE FROM ANY SERVICE, LESS FAVORABLE LOCATION THAN HIGHWAY 3 IN OLD AIRPORT ROAD AS PASSENGERS WOULD BE ARRIVING.
APOLOGIES. STATUS OF DEVELOPABLE LAND IN THIS AREA, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY GEO-TECH ON ANY OF THESE PROPERTIES.
WE KNOW THAT THE SOUTHEAST MAY BE SOME CHALLENGES BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW IS THERE, BUT THE AREA THAT WE'D BE LOOKING ON THE WESTSIDE OF THE TRAIN IS SOMEWHAT SIMILAR.
THOSE ARE OUR FIVE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED AND THESE WERE PRESENTED IN THE INITIAL STAKEHOLDER CONSULTATIONS, THAT INCLUDE OPERATORS, NAV CANADA, TENANTS, AND OTHER PARTIES, CITY GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, INDIGENOUS GROUPS WERE ALL INVITED TO PARTICIPATE.
I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE WE ARE TODAY AS FAR AS THE IMPACTS OF COVID, SHOW YOU WHERE WE ARE.
AIRCRAFT MOVEMENTS WHICH IS THIS GRAPH HERE AND SINCE 2019 IS THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
AIRCRAFT MOVEMENT MEANS THE NUMBER OF
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AIR ARRIVALS AND DEPARTURES OF AN AIRCRAFT IN AND OUT OF AN AIRPORT, SO BASICALLY EITHER A TAKE-OFF OR LANDING.WHILE AIRCRAFT MOVEMENTS DID DIP DURING THE FIRST YEAR OF THE PANDEMIC, AIRCRAFT MOVEMENTS HAVE SEEN STEADY INCREASE FROM 2020, BRINGING THEM CLOSE TO PRE-PANDEMIC LEVELS, WHICH IS SURPRISING.
WE'RE ALMOST BACK TO WHERE WE WERE IN 2019.
YOU CAN SEE IN THE GREEN THERE, APRIL 2020 IS WHEN WE REALLY SAW A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT OF COVID, BUT TODAY WE'RE CURRENTLY ABOUT EIGHT PERCENT BELOW PANDEMIC NUMBERS YEAR-OVER-YEAR AND WE'RE ONLY DOWN ONE PERCENT FROM 2019.
WITH RECENT INCREASES OF AIR CANADA'S FLIGHTS, THE ADDITIONAL OF AIR NORTH AND WESTJET INCREASING CAPACITY, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE AIRCRAFT MOVEMENTS RECOVERING.
PASSENGER MOVEMENTS FOLLOWS THE SAME PATTERN.
PASSENGER MOVEMENT IS BASICALLY JUST THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS ARRIVING, DEPARTURE AND THAT'S BOTH INTO THE TERMINAL END INTO WHAT WE CALL FIXED BASE OPERATORS, SO THAT'S LIKE THE SUMMIT AREAS THERE IN NORTHWESTERN.
OPERATORS THAT DON'T OPERATE IN THE TERMINAL, BUT BRING PASSENGERS IN AND OUT.
AGAIN, APRIL 2020 WAS A MASSIVE HIT.
WE LOST 90 PERCENT OF OUR PASSENGERS BASICALLY OVERNIGHT.
BUT IF YOU LOOK, MARCH OF THIS YEAR, MARCH 2022, WE HAD AGAIN A SIGNIFICANT JUMP OF ALMOST 12,000 PASSENGERS.
MARCH IS TRADITIONALLY A BUSY MONTH, APRIL TENDS TO DROP OFF.
WE SHOULD HAVE AMAZED NUMBER HERE, BUT PASSENGER SEEMS TO BE HOLDING STRONG AND WE ARE TRENDING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
I THINK WE MOVED 250,000 PASSENGERS LAST YEAR AT THE CURRENT RATE, WE SHOULD EASILY HIT PROBABLY 350 PLUS THIS YEAR, WHICH IS GOOD NEWS FOR YELLOWKNIFE AIRPORT AND THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE.
CURRENTLY WE ARE IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WHICH YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN ADVERTISING ON.
FROM THE FIVE INITIAL OPTIONS, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THERE WAS REALLY ONLY TWO OPTIONS THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
THE TERMINAL REMAIN CURRENT LOCATIONS SUCH TIME THE TRIGGER IS REACHED THAT SAYS IT'S TIME TO MOVE.
THE SCENARIOS SPEAKS TO THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE TERMINAL, BUT DOES NOT PROVIDE GROSS SPACE FOR THE APRON AREA OR ADDITIONAL AIRCRAFT PARKING STALLS PER NAMESPACE WOULD REMAIN AS IS.
SCENARIO 2 IS NOT INCLUDED IN ENGAGEMENT AS IT WAS TOO COSTLY AND WOULD CAUSE MAJOR DISRUPTION TO THE CURRENT TENANT OPERATIONS.
SCENARIO 3 & 4 WERE GROUPED TOGETHER TO CREATE THE FIRST OPTION.
OPTION 1, A NEW TERMINAL BUILDING AND ASSOCIATED PARASITE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE BUILT AT THE JUNCTION OF THE TWO RUNWAYS, AND THEN SCENARIO 5 IS OUR TRADITIONAL PREVIOUS MASTER PLAN ON THE WEST SIDE, A NEW TERMINAL BUILDING AND ASSOCIATED.
PARASITE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE OPEN ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE AIRPORT WITH DE CHO BOULEVARD TRUCK ROUTE ACCESS.
SURVEY IS CURRENTLY OUT AND ISN'T CLOSING JUNE 10TH.
DYLAN WILL BE COMPILING THE DATA AND UPDATING FORECASTS AND COSTS, CONSOLIDATING THE MSD ANALYSIS AND THE STANTEC 20-YEAR MASTER PLAN, AND THEN WILL PRESENTING THAT TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE IN THE COMING MONTHS.
THEN FROM THERE WE WILL FORMALIZE THE PROCESS.
QUESTIONS. I KNOW IT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION THROWN IN THERE, HURRY, BUT I'M HAPPY, DANNY, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, RANDY.
FOLLOWING UP ON THAT NEXT STEP.
IT GOES TO, SORRY, THE DEPUTY MINISTERS JUST TRYING.
>> STEERING COMMITTEES. IT'S MADE UP OF THE DM, ADM, AND THEN THE REGIONAL SUPERINTENDENT.
I THINK WE HAVE TWO ADMS. [INAUDIBLE] YEAH.
TWO ADMS FROM INFRASTRUCTURE, THE DM OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN REGIONAL SUPERINTENDENT NORTH SLAVE.
>> THEN I GUESS IT'S WHETHER TO THAT THE DEPUTY MINISTERS ENDORSED THE MASTER PLAN AND THEN IT'S SENT TO CAP.
>> YEAH, WE GO THROUGH THE REGULAR PROCESS THERE AND THEN FILTERED BACK TO WHAT WAS APPROVED.
>> I'LL OPEN UP TO OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT THE FUNDING FOR THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO COME FROM THE AIRPORT REVOLVING FUND OR WOULD IT BE A MIX OF THE FUND PLUS?
>> IT WOULD BE FUN PLUS, OBVIOUSLY, THE NUMBERS IN 2018 WERE 300 MILLION, TODAY'S NUMBERS ARE PROBABLY DOUBLED THAT WITH SUPPLY CHAIN.
TO DO A PROJECT LIKE THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT FEDERAL FUNDING OR SOME OTHER SOURCE OF FUNDING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
>> THREE HUNDRED MILLION WAS THE ACCIDENT THEN.
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STANTEC ON THE WEST SIDE DEVELOPMENT.>> QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL PAIN?
>> THANK YOU. RANDY, WHAT KIND OF TIME-FRAME WE'D BE LOOKING AT, LIKE, BEST-CASE SCENARIO TO GET THESE PROJECTS IF APPROVED OFF THE GROUND TYPE THING?
>> WELL, AGAIN, IT'S NOT A TIMELINE BASED SCENARIO.
IT'S STRICTLY BASED ON PASSENGER MOVEMENT AND AIRCRAFT MOVEMENT.
BECAUSE OF COVID, IT'S BECOME VERY HARD TO EVEN FORECAST WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN TWO MONTHS, YOU GET THE RESURGENCE OF OMICRON AND IT TANKED OUT OF BED AGAIN.
IN THIS REPORT, WE ARE 650,000 IN 2017-2018 WERE PROBABLY AROUND 702,019.
DEPENDING ON HOW AGGRESSIVE THE GOVERNMENT SUPPORTED US BEING, IF YOU'VE GOT A PLAN AHEAD AND WITH THE TREND IS SAYING THAT IN FIVE YEARS WE'RE GOING TO BE A MILLION PASSENGERS, THE DECISION MIGHT BE TO START AT 750,000 PASSENGERS.
IF WE SEE THIS HUGE INCREASE IN INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL, AGAIN, WE COULD BE LOOKING AT A MILLION PASSENGERS OR THE 750,000, 800,000 IN 3-4 YEARS.
THEN THE DECISION WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE, DO WE BUILD IN PREPARATION OF, OR DO WE WAIT TIL WE HIT THE MILLION AND SOMETHING?
>> IN THE BEGINNING OF YOUR TALK HERE, YOU WERE TALKING SOMETHING ABOUT AN INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS.
MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS TO BECOME AN INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT OR WILL WE STAY EXACTLY HOW WE ARE RIGHT NOW?
>> THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION ONLY, THAT WASN'T A DIRECTION FROM THE GOVERNMENT, SO I'LL SAY THAT RIGHT UP FRONT.
THERE'S PLUSES AND NEGATIVES TO INTERNATIONAL.
IN THE MASTER PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED BY STANTEC, THEY DID INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT, IS THAT WE WOULD BUILD FOR INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL.
I WOULD EXPECT THAT LIKELY WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT THAT WILL ABSOLUTELY BE A CONSIDERATION.
DO WE BUILD WHETHER OR NOT WE'D BECOME INTERNATIONAL? WE HAVE TO GET A CARRIER TO AGREE TO COME AND GO.
WE WOULD HAVE TO CHASE THAT BUSINESS.
BUT DO WE BUILD WITH ANTICIPATION THAT SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD, WE WANT TO.
SAYING THAT IT COMES WITH A COST.
NOW YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE CBSA, YOU NEED A MUCH LARGER SPACE TO HANDLE INTERNATIONAL TRAFFIC AND HANDLING.
OR DO WE MAKE GOOD PARTNERSHIPS WITH PLACES LIKE EDMONTON, VANCOUVER, TORONTO, OTTAWA, AND TRY AND MARKET THROUGH OUTFITS LIKE SPECTACULAR AND NWT TO PUSH TRAFFIC THAT WAY.
THERE'S BEEN NO DECISION MADE THERE.
IT CERTAINLY IS A TOPIC PIECE EVERY TIME THE MASTER PLAN COMES UP, AND IT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE MASTER PLAN FROM STANTEC.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? COUNCILLOR WILLIAMS.
>> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND THANK YOU, RADY. JUST GOING TO FIND ONE HERE.
I KNOW THAT THIS HAS GONE UP FOR PUBLIC CONSULTATION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY RESULTS AND PRELIMINARY RESULTS FROM OPTION 1 VERSUS OPTION 2? WHAT IS THE PUBLIC SAYING?
>> WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY OFFICIAL STUFF IS GOING STRAIGHT TO DYLAN SO WE PROBABLY WON'T SEE ANYTHING UNTIL NEXT WEEK.
I CAN SAY FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS' SIDE OF THINGS, OPTION 1 IS PREFERENTIAL, JUST BECAUSE IT KEPT THEM IN THEIR WHEELHOUSE AND REPRESENTED VERY LITTLE COST TO THEM.
>> I HAVE ONE MORE HERE. SORRY, I JUST TOOK SOME NOTES HERE.
THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE, AFTER YOUR PRESENTATION I WAS LEANING TOWARDS THAT OPTION ANYWAY. [LAUGHTER] THAT'S AWESOME.
YOU TALKED ABOUT FUTURE AIRSIDE LEASE LOTS AND JUST CURIOUS ABOUT DEMAND FOR SUCH THINGS.
IS THERE AN EXPRESSED INTEREST IN? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE HEAR STORIES ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LESS EXPLORATION HAPPENING.
MAYBE SOME MINES, MAYBE WINDING DOWN SOME OPERATIONS.
JUST CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR NEW LEASES.
I WOULDN'T SAY OFTEN, BUT REGULARLY WE SEE REQUESTS FROM INTERESTED PARTIES.
AGAIN, IT'S JUST MORE AT THE INQUIRY LEVEL.
SOME OF THE SMALLER CARRIERS IN THE NWT HAVE ASKED ABOUT WHAT DO WE HAVE FOR AIRSIDE LOTS THAT THEY'RE PERHAPS LOOKING TO EXPAND.
WE'VE HAD CARRIERS OUT OF SASKATCHEWAN INQUIRE ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY.
THEN WE HAVE IN-HOUSE EXISTING TENANTS THAT ARE LOOKING FOR MORE SPACE, THE [INAUDIBLE] THE BUFFALO AIRWAYS.
THERE'S NO SPACE LEFT EITHER FOR LOCAL OPERATIONS TO EXPAND AND STILL HAVE THAT ACCESS TO THE RUNWAYS.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, RADY.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILLOR MORGAN?
>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. [NOISE] MY FIRST QUESTION,
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IT SEEMED THAT IN SCENARIOS 4 AND 5, THEY BOTH INCLUDED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF SPACE FOR A NEW HOTEL AT THE AIRPORT AND RETAIL.I'M NOT SURE WHETHER IN YOUR GROUP TOGETHER NEW SCENARIOS THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING AS TWO OPTIONS.
IN BOTH OPTIONS, ARE THOSE, A GIVEN THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE AN AIRPORT HOTEL AND SPACE THERE FOR ANOTHER?
>> I THINK I WAS CLEAR UPFRONT.
MY DISCLAIMER BEFORE I DID THE OPTIONS THAT THEY'RE JUST PLACEHOLDERS THAT THE MXD PUT IN AS POTENTIAL TENANTS IF THERE WAS DEMAND OR WHATEVER.
WE'RE NOT GOING OUT CHASING HOTEL DEVELOPERS.
WE'RE NOT GOING OUT CHASING ANY DEVELOPERS.
WHEN THE TIME COMES, WE'LL DEVELOP LOTS, WE'LL ZONE THEM, AND PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT.
>> [NOISE] HOW WOULD THAT DECISION-MAKING PROCESS HAPPEN.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY ULTIMATELY CAN CONTROL IN TERMS OF ZONING OR DO YOU HAVE YOUR OWN CONTROL OVER THE AIRPORT AREA [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU WOULD TAKE CITY'S INPUT INTO ACCOUNT, BUT THEN MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE WANT TO BE A GOOD CORPORATE CITIZEN AND ENGAGE WITH THE CITY ON IT.
>> CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE RATIONALE WAS FOR INCLUDING HOTEL AND RETAIL IN BOTH OF THOSE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> I BELIEVE, MXD, THEY DID AN ECONOMIC ANALYSIS AND THIS IS WHAT THEY DO FOR BUSINESS.
THEY JUST GO IN AND DO A STUDY, TALK TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT GROUPS, AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE PLACEHOLDERS.
NOW, THEY ALSO HAD A NORTHERN INNOVATION CENTER, WHICH I THINK THEY WERE CALLING A POLYTECHNICAL SCHOOL.
I DON'T WANT THE RATIONALISM BEHIND THAT.
THEY WERE JUST THROWING ITEMS OUT THERE AND SAYING THIS IS WHAT IT COULD BE.
MORE VISIONING IN A PERFECT WORLD.
BUT WHEN YOU RIGHT SIZE IT AND WE ARE YELLOWKNIFE, 18,000 PEOPLE.
IS A HOTEL REALISTIC OUT THERE? AT THIS TIME, I WOULD SAY NO.
>> CAN YOU CLARIFY THEN ARE YOU COMING TODAY AND ASKING FOR OPINIONS OR THOUGHTS ON SCENARIOS OR?
>> WE WERE INVITED TO COME AND DO A PRESENTATION.
WE HAD STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENTS WITH THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE BACK IN MARCH AND WE WERE ASKED IF WE COULD DO A PRESENTATION IN THIS FORUM, SO WE AGREED THAT ABSOLUTELY WE WILL COME AND DO A PRESENTATION.
WE ARE PAST THE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT.
WE'LL WELCOME, IF YOU HAVE FURTHER INPUT, WE WILL TAKE AND PASS IT ON TO DYLAN AS PART OF THIS PROCESS.
BUT WE'RE HERE ON INVITE AND ABSOLUTELY WOULD LOVE YOUR FEEDBACK AND SUPPORT ON A LOCATION.
AGAIN, I WANT TO REALLY SAY, WE'RE NOT HERE TO DISCUSS WHAT DEVELOPMENTS, IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT A CANADIAN TIRE IN THERE, OR A WALMART, OR A COSTCO.
WE WANT TO KNOW IF WE PUT AN AIRPORT TERMINAL IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER IS THERE ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE ON THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE.
TRAFFIC NOISE, WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS.
IF WE GO TO THE WEST SIDE, DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS? WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF HERE? WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF HERE?
>> YEAH. [NOISE] WE ARE INVITED TO PROVIDE OUR FEEDBACK ON OPTION 1 OR 2.
IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN OFFICIAL POSITION ON OPTION 1 OR OPTION 2, OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO DEFER TO ADMINISTRATION TO SELECT AN OPTION, THEN WE COULD DO THAT.
>> OKAY. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO PERHAPS FUTURE DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCIL WHEN WE GET MORE INFORMATION OR I CAN HAVE A MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION.
BUT SINCE YOU'RE HERE NOW, I'M COMING AT THIS AS A LAY PERSON OBVIOUSLY.
I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN AIRPORT DESIGN.
BUT I'M JUST LACKING IN CONTEXT HERE.
MAYBE THERE'S A DIFFERENT PRESENTATION THAT'S GIVEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC OR MAYBE THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PUBLIC CONSULTATION, BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN IN SIMPLE TERMS AS YOU CAN.
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM THAT'S BEING SOLVED BY EITHER SCENARIO, LIKE THE FIRST OPTION AND THE SECOND OPTION, AND WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN? LIKE WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES OF NOT DOING THIS IF WE JUST SAID, BUT THINGS SEEM FINE.
LIKE WHAT. HOW WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT?
>> IN ANY ORGANIZATION JUST LIKE WE'RE NO DIFFERENT THAN THE CITY.
WHEN WE GO TO DO A PROJECT, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE 10-YEAR PLAN AND THE 20-YEAR PLAN.
I DON'T DEVELOP SOMETHING HERE AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE NEED A NEW AIRPORT. EXCUSE ME I'M SORRY.
[LAUGHTER] WE'VE DEVELOPED SOMETHING THAT NOW BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO THE PLANNING UP FRONT, WE'VE NOW TAKEN AWAY OUR OPTION.
WE HAD A 20-YEAR MASTER PLAN THAT EXPIRED SO WE STARTED THAT PROCESS AGAIN.
THEN THROUGH THAT INITIALLY, IT WAS JUST WE'LL GO TO THE WEST SIDE AGAIN, WE'LL GO TO THE WEST SIDE.
WHEN MXD CAME IN, THEY SAID, WHY ARE YOU GOING THERE.
THEY STARTED THROWING ALL THESE OPTIONS. WHAT ABOUT THIS, WHAT ABOUT THIS.
THAT'S WHERE THE OPTIONS IN ARE COMING FROM.
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IS JUST LIKE, OPEN YOUR EYES A LITTLE BIT, LOOK AT THE WORLD A LITTLE LARGER AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WILL WORK BETTER.I'VE GOT AN OPINION ON WHICH ONE I THINK WORKS BETTER FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
OPERATIONAL ONE, IN MY OPINION, WORKS BETTER.
WE'VE NARROWED IT DOWN TO FIVE.
THEN AS WE NARROWING DOWN AND COMPLETING THIS, WE THOUGHT WE'D BETTER GO TO STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
BECAUSE NUMBER 1 IF WE MOVE TO THE SOUTHEAST OR EVEN IN THE WEST SIDE, WE'RE MOVING SIGNIFICANTLY CLOSER TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
IS THERE A MASSIVE CONCERN ABOUT NOISE? IS THERE A MASSIVE CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC? WE THOUGHT, WELL, LET'S ENGAGE AND GIVE PEOPLE AND STAKEHOLDERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME INPUT INTO THIS.
BUT THE PLAN ITSELF, RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN A REACTIONARY MODE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN.
WE'RE TARGETING HIGH MAINTENANCE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO NOW BECAUSE OF THE REVOLVING FUND.
BUT IN THE NEXT 3-5 YEARS, WE WILL HAVE OUR HOUSE IN ORDER AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE.
THEN IT'S LIKE, WHERE DO WE DEVELOP AND THAT'S WHERE THIS PROCESS WILL LEAD US.
DO I BUILD A TAXI WAY HERE? DO I BUILD IT HERE? EVEN IF I'M JUST BUILDING THAT THIS YEAR, IT'S GOT TO TIE INTO WHAT I'M DOING 10, 15, 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? [LAUGHTER]
>> YOU JUST HAVE TO COME UP TO THE MIC.
>> SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'VE GOT TO RECOGNIZE IS THAT THE BUILDING IS 55 YEARS OLD, IT HAS A LIFELINE.
BEFORE COVID HIT, WE WERE GETTING PRETTY FULL, SO THE BUILDING WAS ALMOST LIKE CAPACITY.
AS RANDY SAID EARLIER, HAVE WITH KEPT GROWING WE WOULD PASS CAPACITY.
WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE IN CASE WHAT NEXT, AS THE CITY GROWS, AS THE AIRPORT GROWS.
PART OF THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY IS THAT WE WANT TO DO IT RESPONSIBLY.
THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT GOING TO GO OUT AND MAKE A DECISION.
WE GET ALL THE INPUTS THAT WE CAN AND THAT'S WHY WE VALUE YOUR GUYS OPINION AND WE ARE GLAD TO COME VERY QUICKLY.
I MIGHT ADD AFTER SHEILA REACHED OUT TO US AND MADE IT HAPPEN FAST.
BUT BURBANK ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR YOUR CITY, FOR THE NORTH TERRITORIES, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT RIGHT.
WE CAN'T GROW IN OUR CURRENT LOCATION.
WE KNOW THAT, WE'VE TAKEN IT OFF THE TABLE, SO WE HAVE TO GROW SOMEWHERE.
WHERE IT GROWS YOU GUYS HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE AN OPINION ON THAT, WE NORMALLY APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK, BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS, IF CITY KEEPS GROWING, THE AIRPORT WILL BE MOVING SOMEWHERE.
WILL IT BE A HOTEL, WHO KNOWS? G&P WILL NEVER BUILT A HOTEL.
G&P WILL NEVER GO LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO BUILD THE HOTEL.
WILL SOMEONE WALK UP TO US WHEN THEY SAY, HEY, WE'D LIKE TO BUILD A HOTEL? MAYBE WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT.
THOSE POINT IN TIME OR LIKE WE'LL BE DOING MORE CONSULTATION, MORE ENGAGEMENT.
WE'RE TRYING TO ENHANCE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY.
WE'VE MET A FEW TIMES RECENTLY, STARTED REACHING OUT MORE.
THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO GO AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY AND THAT MIGHT BE THE DECISION POINT OF WHY WE HAVE TO DO THIS NOW RATHER THAN LATER.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD ADD IS JUST THROW A PLUG-IN FOR OUR ECONOMIC ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
WE JUST HAD OUR FIRST MEETING ON FRIDAY OF A NEW ECONOMIC ADVISOR COMMITTEE.
THESE ARE BUSINESS LEADERS IN YELLOWKNIFE.
THEY KNOW WAY MORE ABOUT DEVELOPMENT THAN WE DO.
RANDY'S GOT SOME SMARTS, HE'S BEEN IN THE AIRLINE BUSINESS, SO HE UNDERSTANDS IT.
BUT WE NEED THE ADVICE FROM THESE PEOPLE AS WELL, RIGHT? SO YOU GUYS ARE BUSINESS LEADERS IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO WERE HELPING GUIDE AS WELL.
THEY'LL HAVE SOME INPUT IN THIS POSITION DECISION HELPS ALONG THE WAY. WHY ARE WE HERE TODAY? THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE NEED TO SOLVE.
HOW DO WE MOVE AHEAD AND GROW THE AIRPORT, GROW AT THE TERRITORY, GROW THE CITY OUT OF THINGS SO. THANKS.
>> OKAY. YEAH, NO THANKS FOR EXPLAINING THAT.
I WASN'T MEANING TO IMPLY THAT.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE. I WAS JUST HONESTLY ASKING BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE THE CONTEXT OR THE BACKGROUND.
>> PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW YOUR LINES DON'T NECESSARILY UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING.
YOU UNDERSTAND THE CHECK-IN PROCESS, BUT WHAT GOES ON BEHIND IS A NEW WORLD TO MOST PEOPLE.
>> SURE. MY MAIN FEEDBACK WOULD BE THAT I WOULD HAVE STRONG CONCERNS ABOUT ESPECIALLY IN A DESIGN PLAN, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING, LEAVING OPEN SPACE OR IDENTIFYING WHERE WOULD BE THE BEST SPACE FOR LIKE HOTEL AND RETAIL.
IF YOU'RE SAYING, OH, WE DON'T HAVE PLANS AT THIS POINT AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT.
BUT ONE DAY IF SOMEONE DID COME TO US, THEN THAT COULD HAPPEN.
TO ME IF YOU'RE IN CONTROL OF THE ZONING, YOU CAN ALSO DECIDE THAT IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT OF THE CITY AND THE TERRITORY TO HAVE A HOTEL AT THE AIRPORT.
YOU HAVE THE POWER TO DO THAT.
MY FEEDBACK IS, I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD PUT THAT INTO THE PLANS AND I THINK YOU SHOULD BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT AS OPPOSED TO SAYING, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL SOMEONE COULD COME UP TO US ONE DAY AND WANT A HOTEL AND
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THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT.SO THAT'S MY FEEDBACK, IS I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY OF THE CITY, SO I THINK WE SHOULD JUST ESTABLISH THAT NOW. THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MORSE?
>> THANKS AND THANKS FOR COMING. SORRY?
>> SORRY. I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE SAID QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER RIGHT NOW.
ONCE THAT'S DONE, WE CAN DO GENERAL DISCUSSION.
>> THANKS FOR COMING TO PRESENT THIS TO US.
I AGREE THAT IT IS GOOD TO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE AND REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS DOING ENGAGEMENT ON THIS.
WELL, WELL WELL AHEAD OF ANY TIME THAT IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE DEVELOPED.
IT'S NICE THAT WHEN THINGS DON'T CATCH PEOPLE OFF GUARD, WE'VE GOT A CURRENT SITUATION THAT DIDN'T GO THAT WAY, SO THERE WILL BE MEETING ABOUT TONIGHT.
SIMILAR TO COUNSEL MORGAN'S COMMENTS, I DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN ABOUT THE PLAN TO HAVE RETAIL AND SERVICES.
SIMILAR TO COUNSEL MORGAN, I THINK COUNCIL HAS DISCUSSED THE POSSIBILITY OF A HOTEL GOING HERE IN THE PAST, AND IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR IT'S PREFERRED BY THE EXISTING HOTEL INDUSTRY AND I THINK JUST THE GENERAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY TO HAVE THINGS LIKE THAT FOCUSED ON THE DOWNTOWN AS OPPOSED TO OUT IN THE AIRPORT AREA.
I WOULD FEEL SIMILARLY ABOUT RETAIL, I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT RETAIL IS BEING DISCUSSED HERE? ARE WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A LITTLE MALL DEVELOPED OUT BY THE AIRPORT OR IS IT WHEN YOU SAY RETAILERS THAT SOMEHOW RELATED TO THE AIR INDUSTRY ITSELF? CAN YOU EXPAND UPON THAT A LITTLE BIT?
>> NO. [LAUGHTER] AGAIN, PLACEHOLDERS, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS AIRPORT HAS TWO TYPES OF REVENUES THAT WE COLLECT.
WE HAVE AERONAUTICAL REVENUES WHICH ARE TIED TO AN AIRCRAFT LANDING, PASSENGERS COMING AND GOING, USERS USING THE TERMINAL, ETC.
FEES ARE ATTACHED ALL THIS, THAT'S ALL AERONAUTICAL REVENUES.
THEN WE HAVE OUR NON-AERONAUTICAL, SO THIS IS ALL THE GUYS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE AVIATION INDUSTRY, BUT HAVE LEASED PROPERTY ON US.
THAT REVENUE IS HUGELY IMPORTANT TO OPERATIONS AT AN AIRPORT BECAUSE WHAT IT DOES IS IT REDUCE THE COST TO OPERATORS.
WE REDUCE COSTS TO OPERATORS, WE'RE ABLE TO CONTROL WHAT WE'RE CHARGING THE AIRLINES TO USE THE TERMINAL, TO USE THE RUNWAYS, AND ULTIMATELY REDUCES THE COST OF TRAVELING IN AND OUT OF YELLOWKNIFE.
I'LL PREFACE AND SAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT.
WE LOOK FOR DEVELOPMENT TODAY.
WE'VE HAD TENANTS REFERENCE TO US FROM THE CITY TO DEVELOP ON OUR PROPERTY.
SPECIFICS OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DEVELOPING TODAY I COULDN'T TELL.
AGAIN, WE'RE IN A PHASE WHERE WE'RE LOOKING, WHERE'S OUR LOCATION? WHEN THE TIME COMES, WHEN WE GET INTO DESIGN, WE HAVE OUR ZONING GUIDELINES THAT WE FOLLOW AND WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.
I CAN'T SPEAK ON THAT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I DON T KNOW.
>> OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. MAYBE IF I COULD BE A BIT MORE SPECIFIC.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT RETAIL IN THE SENSE OF A CAR DEALERSHIP VERSUS A MALL OR SOMETHING?
>> WE HAD AN INDIVIDUAL REFERRED TO US FROM THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE THAT WAS LOOKING AT SUCH A DEVELOPMENT.
>> OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE THERE'S KINDS OF RETAIL THAT OF COURSE, DON'T GO WELL WITH DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S KINDS OF RETAIL THAT DO SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD EARLY ON TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, THIS IDEA OF THE HOTEL.
MAYBE THERE WILL BE A TIME IN YELLOWKNIFE FUTURE MOST AIRPORTS THAT I'VE BEEN TO DOWN SOUTH.
THEY DO HAVE HOTELS ATTACHED TO THEM.
IT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT'S USEFUL, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT CONCERNS HAVE BEEN RAISED ABOUT IT IN THE PAST.
>> YEAH, AND LIKE I SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS DISCUSSION THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP IN EVERY MEETING WE'VE HAD ABOUT THIS WITH THE CITY.
>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WHEN THE TIME COMES, WE'LL SIT DOWN AND WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL, BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH TODAY, DOES AB WORK, C WORK.
IN ANY SCENARIO, THE ONLY FAIR PORT IS GOING TO BE LOOKING TO CREATE SOME DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT'S AERONAUTICAL OR NON-AERONAUTICAL, IT'S CRITICAL.
AS A REVOLVING FUND, WE SURVIVE ON THE MONEY WE RAISE.
THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT FUND US ANYMORE.
ANY MONEY WE BRING IN, THAT'S WHAT PAYING FOR MY STAFF.
THAT'S WHAT'S PAYING FOR MAINTENANCE ON THE RUNWAY.
THAT'S WHAT'S PAYING FOR ANY KIND OF CAPITAL EXPENDITURES IS HOLY WHAT WE GENERATE OUT THERE.
IT'S FAIRLY CRITICAL TEST TO GENERATE REVENUE.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNSELOR SMITH?
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>> NO REAL QUESTIONS. ACTUALLY, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT AND DOING THE PRESENTATION.
I'M ACTUALLY QUITE INTRIGUED AND EXCITED TO SEE THE AIRPORT EXPAND, ESPECIALLY IF THERE ARE RETAIL AND THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.
BECAUSE AGAIN, WE COUNT OURSELVES AS THE CAPITAL CITY OF THE WT AND ANY LARGE AIRPORT DOWN SOUTH, LIKE COUNCILOR MORRIS SAID, THEY HAVE RETAIL, THEY HAVE HOTELS, AND IT'S NOT IN COMPETITION WITH ANY OTHER HOTEL, IT'S TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT THAT MUCH MORE OF AN EXPERIENCE FOR TRAVELERS.
THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO COME ALL THE WAY INTO TOWN AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET UP AT THE CRACK OF DAWN TO GET BACK TO THEIR 05:00 AM, 6:00 AM FLIGHT, THEY WANT TO BE CLOSE BY.
THOSE AMENITIES ARE A NECESSITY.
IF WE ARE WANTING TO EXPAND, IF WE DO WANT TOURISTS TO COME BACK OUT, WE WANT TO PRESENT THEM WITH A NICE EXPERIENCE WHEN THEY FIRST COME HERE.
I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE WHAT COMES OF IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAD A FEW.
I WAS GOING TO ASK IF YOU ACTUALLY OWN THAT PARCEL LAND IN OPTION 1, BUT I ACTUALLY SEE IT IN OUR ZONING BY-LAWS THAT IT'S OWNED AIRPORTS, SO THAT WOULD BE YOURS.
IT'S TOUGH TO SEE BECAUSE SQUARES AND DOTS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
BUT DOES OPTION 1 OR OPTION 2 PROVIDE MORE SPACE FOR GROWTH? ON PAPER, OPTION 2 LOOKS LIKE THIS?
OPTION 1 IS WE ARE WHERE WE ARE, WE COULD DO SOME.
>> SORRY, IN YOUR CURRENT DISCUSSION PAPERS, I GUESS.
>> YES, BOTH OPTIONS ARE BLANK CANVASES RIGHT NOW.
OPTION 1 BENEFIT TIES INTO OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE ON BRISTOL AVENUE IN OLD AIRPORT ROAD.
IT KEEPS EVERYTHING IN ONE AREA, WEST SIDE, AGAIN, HUGE SWATH OF LAND THERE, UNDEVELOPED.
IT BOTH GIVE A LOT OF AREA FOR GROWTH, BOTH AERONAUTICAL AND NON-AERONAUTICAL RELATED.
IT'S NOT THAT OPTION 1 HAS LESS SPACE.
IN FACT, IT MIGHT HAVE MORE BECAUSE YOU'RE USING THAT SPACE NEAR OLD AIRPORT ROAD PLUS THAT WHOLE SPACE NEAR.
>> YES. WE WOULD MAINTAIN OUR CURRENT TENANTS.
OPTION 2, PROBABLY IN THE BIG PICTURE, IS A BIGGER SWATH OF LAND THAN THE OPTION ONE, CHALLENGE THERE IS LOCATION AND PROXIMITY TO SERVICES.
I THINK IN 2018, THE COST WAS AROUND 17 MILLION TO TIE INTO SERVICES ON THE SOUTHEAST AND THAT WAS OVER 50 MILLION ON THE WEST SIDE.
QUITE A COST DIFFERENCE IN 2018 BASED ON WHAT STANTEC PROVIDED US.
>> I WAS GOING TO [NOISE] ASK YOU ABOUT THAT BECAUSE YOU'D BE LOOKING TO OR MAYBE YOU'D HAVE TO SERVE.
>> OVER THE TERMINAL WE NEED WATER.
IN OUR CURRENT LOCATION, WE USE NON-POTABLE FROM LONG LAKE.
BUT WE WOULD LOSE THAT IN ANY OTHER LOCATION, SO WE WOULDN'T NEED TO TIE INTO TWO SERVICES.
TENANTS WOULD PREFER TO BE SERVICED AS WELL, PARTICULARLY HANGERS AND STUFF WHERE THEY'RE HAVING TO PUT IN FIRE SUPPRESSION.
>> THE THING IS BETWEEN OPTION 1 AND OPTION 2, I FEEL LIKE IT MIGHT BE PRICED THAT KILLS AND YOU JUST HAVE TO GO WITH ONE OPTION THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S I GUESS ON THE TABLE.
>> PRICE ALWAYS PLAYS A PART. ABSOLUTELY.
>> IS THE PROJECT GOING TO SCOPE OUT THE PRICE FOR BOTH OPTIONS?
>> THE TERMINAL ITSELF IS GOING TO BE VERY SIMILAR IN COST.
WHAT WE DESIGN IN A AND B, THE GROUND WORKS IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
BUT THE ACTUAL COST OF WHAT IT IS WE'RE BUILDING WILL BE PRICED ON UNDER TODAY'S DOLLARS AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WAS PRICED OUT IN 2018.
>> THEN THE OPTION 1 AND YOU MARK IT AS YOUR CON IS THAT IT'S CLOSER TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, [NOISE] TALKING ABOUT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND AN AIR SAC CARGO.
IS IT GENERALLY STUFF THAT OPERATES AND IS DONE BY 11:00 PM? DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT NOISE? ALTHOUGH I DO NOTE THAT THE DISTANCE BETWEEN WHAT YOU'D BE PROPOSING AND THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE BUSINESSES ON OLD AIRPORT ROAD WOULD BE ABOUT THE SAME.
>> I THINK NOISE IS MORE PROBABLY RELATED TO AIRCRAFT THAN THE ACTUAL BUSINESS.
BUT I'M SAYING THAT. I LIVE IN OLD TOWN.
I HEAR THE PLANES COMING AND GOING.
I GOT PLANES COMING AND GOING OFF BACK BAY.
IT'S CONCERNED THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AND WE CERTAINLY WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC AND WE'RE HOPING THAT'LL BE IDENTIFIED IN
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THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FROM RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA THAT NO, WE ABSOLUTELY DON'T WANT IT BECAUSE OF NOISE.THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO MAYBE GET FROM THE PUBLIC, IS CONCERNS REGARDING NOISE.
>> [NOISE] THE GEOTECHNICAL WORK IT HASN'T HAPPENED ON EITHER OPTION, HAS IT?
>> OPTION 1 LOOKS A LITTLE SWAMPY THAN OPTION 2.
>> THERE'S THE LAKE THERE OBVIOUSLY RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF OMEGA.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT OTHER STREET THAT IS BECAUSE THAT'S ONTO OUR PROPERTY AS WELL.
WE DO HAVE SOME LOW LEVEL ROCK IN THERE AS WELL.
WE WOULD HAVE TO GET IN AND DO A GOOD LOOK.
WEST SIDE WE HAVE SIMILAR AS WE GET CLOSE TO THE RUNWAY, WE'D HAVE AN AREA THAT'S VERY SIMILAR, NOT AS MUCH WATER, BUT VERY SWAMPY AS WELL.
>> [NOISE] I THINK THOSE WERE ALL OF MY QUESTIONS.
IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW IT MOVES FORWARD AND I GUESS IT'S JUST ALL CONTINGENT ON HOW FAST STUFF COMES BACK FROM THE PASSENGER.
>> THAT'S THE BIG UNKNOWN AS HOW FAST THESE TRIGGERS ARE GOING TO START KICKING IN AND THEN FUNDING, OF COURSE, IS GOING TO BE FINDING SOURCE FUNDING WHEN THE TIME COMES TO BUILD.
>> ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS THAT YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE AIRLINES COMING IN BECAUSE YOU'VE REACHED YOUR MAXIMUM CAPACITY?
>> IN OUR CURRENT LOCATION, WE HAVEN'T FULLY RECOVERED OUR AIRCRAFT NUMBERS IN THE TERMINAL.
WE'RE ALREADY STARTING TO RUN INTO APRON ISSUES AS FAR AS CREATING PARKING SPOTS.
HOPING HERE NORTH, WHO'S TRADITIONALLY BEEN SEASONAL, WILL STAY YEAR-ROUND WITH THE TORONTO.
FLIGHT SEEMS TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
WE'RE HOPING WEST SIDE WILL BACK.
THEY'VE BEEN A LITTLE SLOW. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S RELATED TO PASSENGERS OR JUST CREWING LIKE EVERYONE IS STRUGGLING FOR MANPOWER.
THAT'S SEVERAL FLIGHTS A DAY THAT WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY WILL BRING BACK IN THE COMING MONTHS.
YOU'VE NOTICED A LOT MORE MILITARY ACTIVITY AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SPACE, COLD WEATHER TESTING.
THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SPACE AND WE'RE TALKING KI CAME HERE TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN ANY WEAK PERIOD.
WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO GROW THAT [NOISE] BUSINESS WITHOUT ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS THEIR SIDE LIGHTS OR APRON SPACE, AND IT'S AT A PREMIUM RIGHT NOW.
CANADIAN NORTH DOESN'T HAVE ROOM, SUMMIT DOESN'T HAVE ROOM.
AIR ATTENDEE DOESN'T HAVE ROOM.
THEY'VE ALL BOUGHT MORE PROPERTIES AND ARE SCRAMBLING AROUND TO TRY AND FIND MORE.
AT SOME POINT, YES, WE ARE GOING TO HIT OUR LIMIT OF WHAT WE CAN DO AND WE'RE CLOSE JUST FOR AIRCRAFT.
>> YEAH. I WAS INTERESTED WHILE YOU'RE HERE.
THE PASSENGER NUMBERS WAS SO HIGH IN JULY VERSUS I WOULD HAVE PICTURED OUR TOURISTS HAVING THE HIGHER BUMPS IN THE WINTER MONTHS, BUT THAT'S JUST YELLOWKNIFE WAS GETTING OUT FOR THE SUMMER.
>> THE PEAK CHANGED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS WITH AURORA, SEPTEMBER BECAME ONE OF OUR BIGGEST MONTHS FOR TRAFFIC.
USED TO BE THE JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH.
MARCH BEING THE BIGGEST, AND NOW SEPTEMBER PRE-PANDEMIC WAS OUR HIGHEST TRAFFIC NUMBERS FOR TOURISM.
>> I SAW WITH THE AIR NORTH THEY'RE DOING A WHITEHORSE, MANILA DIRECT FLIGHT.
IS THERE ANY TALK WITH AIR NORTH TO TRY TO GET THEM TO DO YELLOWKNIFE, WHITEHORSE, MANILA?
>> NO. THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM.
>> NOW THAT'S IT FOR QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COMING OUT AND WE'LL JUST TAKE A MOMENT NOW TO SEE IF THERE'S DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL.
IF WE WANT TO ENDORSE ONE OF THE TWO OPTIONS, OR IF WE WANT TO BRING THIS BACK FOR FUTURE GPC DISCUSSION.
OR IF WE'D LIKE ADMIN TO JUST TAKE A CRACK AT A POSITION. COUNCILOR MORGAN.
>> CAN I JUST FIRST ASK, DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THIS PRESENTATION? YOU SEEM TO HAVE ONE ON YOUR COMPUTER. I DON'T SEE.
>> THAT'S THE ONE I HAVE ON MY COMPUTER IS THEY'RE [INAUDIBLE] IT'S ON THEIR WEBSITE SO CIRCULATE IT TO COUNCIL.
>> I TRIED TO CLICKING ON IT AND THE LINK DOESN'T WORK.
TO BE ABLE TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THIS THING, I JUST NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU HAVE THIS PRESENTATION.
>> IT'S A HEAVIER SAY THING THAT I CAN CIRCULATE TO FOLKS RIGHT NOW.
>> IF EVERYBODY WHO'S WATCHING WANTS TO FILL OUT THE THING, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE YOUR SAY THAT.
JUST GOOGLE INFRASTRUCTURE AND IT'S RIGHT ON THEIR HOMEPAGE.
THEN THERE'S A DISCUSSION PAPER WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE OPTIONS AND THEN FILL OUT THE SURVEY. COUNCILOR MORRIS.
>> YEAH. THANKS. I DO NOTE THAT AT THIS POINT YOU'RE AT
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SUCH AN EARLY STAGE THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT RETAIL AND ALL THAT.I APPRECIATE THE CONTEXTS YOU PROVIDED THERE, RANDY.
LOOKING IN TERMS OF WHAT I THINK WOULD LIKELY BE PREFERRED BY RESIDENTS IN TERMS OF ACCESSIBILITY TO THE AIRPORT, GETTING TO THE AIRPORT.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE OPTION 2, I THINK ABOUT JUST A FEW BASIC LOGISTICAL THINGS AS A PASSENGER, MY CAB RIDE IS GOING TO COST TWICE AS MUCH.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE LONGER TO GET TO THE AIRPORT.
IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT LESS ACCESSIBLE FOR RESIDENTS.
I THINK SCENARIO 1, WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT OPTION 1, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT A PRESENTATION HERE.
THIS IS SCENARIO 1 WAS ELIMINATED, BUT OPTION 1 AND 2 IN THE ENGAGEMENT ANYWAYS, I THINK OPTION 1 LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD BE EASIER ON RESIDENTS GENERALLY AND IS PROBABLY A BETTER OPTION.
BUT AS MERYL NOTED, THERE'S GOING TO BE COST CONSIDERATIONS AND A LOT TO BE CONSIDERED THERE GOING FORWARD.
I THINK GENERALLY SPEAKING, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE'VE BEEN ASKED FOR COUNCIL TO TAKE A POSITION ON SOMETHING FOR WHICH THERE'S COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OCCURRING.
I SOMETIMES WONDER, IF WE'RE DOING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
I WOULD TEND TOWARDS DEFERRING TO THE RESULTS OF THAT ENGAGEMENT AS OPPOSED TO WEIGHING IN AS A COUNCIL ON SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN.
I'M RELUCTANT TO PROVIDE A COUNCIL OPINION ON THIS OR POSITION AS A COUNCILOR ASIDE FROM, I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT THE RESULTS OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ARE.
AS A REPRESENTATIVE, I WOULD GENERALLY DEFER TO THAT IF I COULD.
THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.
I DO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
I THINK GENERALLY SPEAKING, COMING TO COUNCIL IS A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY IS MORE LIKELY TO BECOME AWARE OF IT.
NEWS ORGANIZATIONS MIGHT DO A STORY ON IT AND SPREAD AWARENESS SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING, AND THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, THANKS.
>> THANK YOU. FOR THIS ONE HERE THERE'S A BIT MORE FROM A CITY ADMINISTRATION PERSPECTIVE, LIKE IF OPTION 2 SELECTED, PIPED WATER WOULD THEN BE AVAILABLE IN CHEM LAKE AND THE CITY COULD THEN DISSEMINATE IT FROM THERE VERSUS OPTION 1.
THAT WOULDN'T REALLY BE AN OPTION.
MS. [INAUDIBLE] CAROLINA NORTH ADMINISTRATIONS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE TWO OPTIONS OR IF THEY'D WANT TO PROVIDE ANY FEEDBACK.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION, MADAM CHAIR, AND CERTAINLY THE DISCUSSION IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US.
WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF INTERESTS THAT THE CITY HAS WHEN IT COMES TO THE PROVISION OF MUNICIPAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE WOULD LOOK FORWARD, OF COURSE, TO WORKING WITH JEAN WT ON THIS.
IF SAY THE OPTION TO BUILD ON BOULEVARD WAS SELECTED, THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WITH THE GENE WT PAYING, OF COURSE IT IS MUNICIPAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE WOULD NEED TO BE THE ONES THAT WOULD LEAD THE WORK ON THAT.
THERE ARE SOME CONSIDERATIONS AROUND THAT.
WE FEEL QUITE STRONGLY TOO AROUND THE DEVELOPMENT OF HOTELS AND RETAIL ON AIRPORT PROPERTY.
WE KNOW THAT THE AIRPORT DOES NOT FALL WITHIN OUR ZONING BY-LAWS.
THERE ARE THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN OUT THERE THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL AND CERTAINLY WE DON'T WANT TO CONTROL, BUT WE DO WANT TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL INTERESTS OF THE CITY WHEN IT COMES TO MAXIMIZING AND REVITALIZING OUR DOWNTOWN AND SOME OF THE OTHER GROWTH PLANS THAT WE HAVE AS A COMMUNITY OVERALL.
THERE ARE SOME SELECTIONS TO THIS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT VERY SERIOUSLY.
WE THINK COSTING IS VERY IMPORTANT AS WELL BECAUSE THAT MAY VERY MUCH DETERMINE WHAT GENE WT CHOOSES TO DO TO GO FORWARD.
IF THERE ARE CASES WHERE THIS INVESTMENT, WHEN IT HAPPENS, CAN BE COMPLIMENTARY TO THINGS THAT THIS CITY WOULD DO LIKE EXPANDING PIPED WATER AND SEWER AND MUNICIPAL SERVICES.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE VERY INTERESTED IN BEING ABLE TO COLLABORATE ON AS WELL. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. COUNCILOR MORRIS.
>> THANKS. I APPRECIATE THAT FROM ADMINISTRATION, I WOULD MAYBE SUGGEST THEN IF THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE THERE'S SOME SIGNIFICANT MUNICIPAL CONSIDERATIONS TO BE HEARD HERE, THAT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A MEMO COME TO COUNCIL EXPLAINING THAT GIVING COUNCIL AND PERHAPS A RECOMMENDATION ON THE PROS AND CONS OF EITHER OPTION BECAUSE I THINK SIMPLY SITTING HERE AND DISCUSSING DAY, HAVING SEEN IT FOR THE FIRST TIME MYSELF TODAY.
I THINK I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE HAVING THIS CONTEXTUALIZED BY ADMINISTRATION IF THERE'S GOING TO BE MUNICIPAL CONSIDERATION OF THIS THEN WE SHOULD COME BACK WITH AN OPINION THAT'S INFORMED BY THAT INFORMATION. THANKS.
>> FOR SURE, THAT'S PART OF THE REASON I'M BRINGING IT FORWARD IF COUNCIL WANTS STAFF TO WORK ON IT, THEN WE'LL SET THAT DIRECTION AND THEY'LL COME FORWARD WITH A MEMO WITH BUT IF COUNCIL RIGHT OFF THE HOP WAS LIKE ONE, TWO OR DEFER TO THE PUBLIC.
BUT IF FOLKS ARE IN AGREEMENT, WE CAN DIRECT STAFF TO BRING FORWARD A MEMO WITH
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EITHER A RECOMMENDED OPTION OR SOME [NOISE] FURTHER CONSIDERATIONS FROM A MUNICIPAL PERSPECTIVE.SEEING NODDING HEADS THAT WORKS FOR FOLKS.
ANYTHING FURTHER BEFORE WE CONCLUDE? MR. STRAKER DID MENTION THAT YOU'D BE OPEN FOR SINCE THE FEEDBACK IS CLOSING SHORTLY, BUT IF THE CITY PROVIDES FEEDBACK AFTER THE DEADLINE IT WOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
WITH THAT, DID YOU NEED ANY FURTHER CLARITY [INAUDIBLE] NO.
WITH THAT, IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN MOVED BY COUNCILOR SMITH, SECOND BY COUNCILOR MORRIS.
ANYBODY OPPOSED? SEEING NONE, WE'LL SEE EVERYBODY BACK HERE AT 7:00 PM.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.