May 02, 2022 Governance & Priorities Committee

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I'LL CALL OUR GOVERNANCE AND PRIORITIES COMMITTEE MEETING FOR MONDAY, MAY 2ND, 2022 TO ORDER, AND I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE IS LOCATED

[1. Opening Statement]

FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL IT'S BEEN THE TRADITIONAL LAND OF THE YELLOWKNIFE DENE FIRST NATION.

WE RESPECT THE HISTORIES, LANGUAGES AND CULTURES OF ALL OTHER INDIGENOUS PEOPLES, INCLUDING THE NORTH SLAVE METIS AND ALL FIRST NATIONS, METIS AND INUIT, WHOSE PRESENCE CONTINUES TO ENRICH OUR VIBRANT COMMUNITY.

NEXT WE HAVE APPROVAL THE AGENDA.

[2. Approval of the agenda.]

THANK YOU, AND JUST A NOTE, WE HAVE COUNCILLOR MORSE AND COUNCILLOR SMITH JOINING US BY TELECONFERENCE TODAY.

NEXT WE HAVE DISCLOSURE, PECUNIARY INTERESTS AND THE GENERAL NATURE THEREOF.

[3. Disclosure of pecuniary interest and the general nature thereof]

[4. A memorandum regarding whether to repeal and replace Building By‐law No. 4469, as amended.]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE BUILDING BYLAW REQUIRED A REFRESH AND ADMINISTRATION IS PRESENTING TODAY PROPOSED CHANGES FOR A NEW BYLAW NOW THAT STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT AND THIRD PARTY REVIEW HAS TAKEN PLACE.

SOME OF THE CHANGES PROPOSED MODERNIZE THE BUILDING BYLAW, ADOPT THE NATIONAL BUILDING CODE 2020 AND OTHER CHANGES SEEK TO ADDRESS CURRENT CHALLENGES IN THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.

I WILL ASK MR. LITTLEFAIR TO WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.

NOW FOR GPC.

THANK YOU. HELLO, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE THE LONG AWAITED DRAFT BYLAW.

THE PROPOSED BYLAW WAS WRITTEN WITH THE BUILDING SERVICES TEAM [INAUDIBLE] CONSTRUCTION EXPERIENCE AS WELL AS LESSONS WE'VE LEARNED FROM OUR STAKEHOLDERS.

WAS THIS DONE INTERNALLY? WE DID THIS BY REVIEWING OTHER JURISDICTIONS' ACTS AND REGS.

WE PAID PARTICULAR ATTENTION.

THE PROVINCES THAT USE NBC.

SO THAT [INAUDIBLE] BRUNSWICK, YUKON AND OF COURSE, NUNAVUT.

NUNAVUT WAS OF GREAT INTEREST TO US BECAUSE THEIR LEGISLATION WAS THE NEWEST.

THERE ACT AND REGS AND IT'S WRITTEN IN PLAIN LANGUAGE [INAUDIBLE].

FROM THE BEGINNING, WE WANTED TO MAKE IT A TWO PART.

THE FIRST PART TO MIRROR THE NBC IS A MODEL CODE OBJECTIVE BASED DOCUMENT.

AS A RESULT, IT'S NOT A RECIPE ON HOW TO BUILD.

IT'S THE EQUIVALENT OF THE BUILDING ACT [INAUDIBLE].

WE MOVED THE PRESCRIPTIVE PART HOW TO INTO PART TWO PLUS ADDED PRESCRIPTIVE DETAILS INTO CITY VIEW.

SO WE'RE DOING THE CITY VIEW RECONFIGURATION AS WELL, WE'RE CREATING DOWNLOADABLE CHECKLISTS AND SHEETS ON THE WEBSITE WITH LITTLE BOXES FOR TYPE A CONTRACTORS TO BE ABLE TO CHECK OFF AS THEY GO THROUGH.

HAVING THOSE ON THE WEBSITE WILL ALLOW US TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE AND REACT QUICKER TO CLIENTS [INAUDIBLE].

WE'VE ALSO EXPANDED PART TWO, THE PRESCRIPTIVE SECTION TO REDUCE RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION BY INCORPORATING THE NATIONAL CERTIFICATE FOR SPRINKLER SYSTEM DESIGNERS [INAUDIBLE].

EXPANDED OUR OPTIONS FOR FOUNDATIONS RETAINING WALLS.

THERE'S BEEN NO SIGNIFICANT.

THAT'S BASICALLY SET BY COUNCIL IN 2019.

CHANGED FOUR NUMBERS [INAUDIBLE] 2020 AND WE REMOVED THE DUPLICATION THAT WAS IN THE BYLAW BETWEEN WHAT WE'D WRITTEN IN THE NBC DIDN'T WANT TO STRESS OR HIGHLIGHT ONE SECTION OF THE NBC OVER ANOTHER.

WHAT WAS INTERESTING AND A SURPRISE FOR ME IS AFTER WE HAD THE DRAFT DONE, WE DID A REVIEW OF THE HISTORICAL BUILDING BY , AND WE DISCOVERED THAT WE ENDED UP WITH A DOCUMENT VERY CLOSE TO BYLAW 3815, WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN 1995 AND REPEALED IN 2008 . THAT DOCUMENT IS QUITE A BIT CLOSER TO WHAT [INAUDIBLE].

THE BYLAW HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY AN ENGINEERING COMPANY THAT SPECIALIZES IN CODE CONSULTANT. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, INTERNAL LEGAL COUNSEL, AS WELL AS INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGN TECHNICAL

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BY ADOPTING THE NBC, THE CITY BECOMES THE AUTHORITY HAVING JURISDICTION FOR THE DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION, AND OCCUPANCY OF NEW CONSTRUCTION, AND ALTERATION, RECONSTRUCTION, DEMOLITION, REMODELING, RELOCATION AND CHANGE OF OCCUPANCY OF EXISTING BUILDINGS WHICH IS KIND OF ITS INTENT.

[INAUDIBLE]. THESE REQUIREMENTS, AS I SAID, ARE NATIONAL STANDARDS, AND THEY'RE ADOPTED BY THE [INAUDIBLE].

SO THIS BYLAW DOES NOT ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR CONSTRUCTION.

THESE STANDARDS ARE ALREADY THERE AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MET.

THE BYLAW JUST ALLOWS THE CITY OF YK TO ENSURE THAT PUBLIC SAFETY [INAUDIBLE].

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILLOR MORGAN. THANKS FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, BASED ON YOUR REMARKS THERE, SO YOU SAID THAT THE BUILDING BYLAW THAT WAS IN PLACE FROM 1985 TO 2008 WAS MUCH CLOSER TO WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED NOW THAN, I GUESS, WHAT WAS THERE IN THE INTERIM BETWEEN 2008 AND NOW.

DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPLANATION AS TO WHY DECISIONS WERE MADE IN.

2008 TO MOVE AWAY FROM THAT AND WHY THAT SITUATION HAS CHANGED NOW OR WHY THAT HAS BEEN RETHOUGHT.

MISS WHITE. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, AND I'LL ASK MR. LITTLEFAIR TO PROVIDE AN ANSWER.

THANK YOU. THE CURRENT IS VERY PRESCRIPTIVE AND TRIES TO DICTATE HOW EACH SPECIFIC ITEM SHOULD BE DEALT WITH.

IT BECOMES VERY LONG AND [INAUDIBLE].

WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT WAS NECESSARY BECAUSE THE NATIONAL BUILDING CODE OUTLINES WHAT'S REQUIRED.

SO IF YOU WANT TO SUBMIT FOR SCHOOL, IT TELLS YOU WHICH DOCUMENTATION [INAUDIBLE] WHEREAS BYLAW [INAUDIBLE].

THOSE ARE ALL GIVEN.

SO WE DIDN'T FEEL WE NEEDED [INAUDIBLE] AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT REQUIREMENTS PUT INTO THE [INAUDIBLE] LIKE A WEB BASED PROGRAM, AND THEN THEY'LL LEAD YOU THROUGH A DROPDOWN MENU, [INAUDIBLE] INTUITIVELY ASK YOU FOR THOSE. I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF USING THE NEW SOFTWARE THAT'S REALLY ALLOWING US TO [INAUDIBLE].

OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.

ANYTHING FURTHER? I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

SO I'LL JUST GO ACCORDING TO--TALK ABOUT THE GPC PACKAGE.

SO PAGE FIVE, IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE SURETY BOND AMOUNTS WITH THE OCCUPANCY PERMIT.

SO JUST WONDERING IF THIS IS DONE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE CURRENTLY DO THIS.

SO JUST WONDERING IF THIS IS A BEST PRACTICE OR SOMETHING THAT'S DONE IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND THEN HOW WE DETERMINED THE AMOUNTS.

MS. WHITE? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, AND YES, THAT'S ON PAGE FIVE OF THE CURRENT AGENDA.

SO THE SURETY IS NEW TO THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE, AND IT IS TRYING TO ASSIST IN SOLVING SOME SITUATIONS WHERE WE'RE MISSING INFORMATION, PAPERWORK AT THE OCCUPANCY POINT IN A BUILDING PERMIT.

THERE ARE LOCATIONS ELSEWHERE WHO HAVE LEGISLATED AUTHORITY BECAUSE THEY HAVE EITHER A PROVINCIAL BUILDING CODE OR OTHER LEGISLATION THAT ALLOWS THEM TO DO THIS, AND IT WOULD BE THE BUILDING BYLAW THAT WOULD GIVE THE CITY THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE A SURETY, AND I WILL ASK MR. LITTLEFAIR IF HE HAS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS.

THANK YOU. THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS DO HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR.

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SO THIS IS SAYING THEIR PROJECT'S COMPLETE, AND THEY WANT TO GET THE OCCUPANCY PERMITS.

IF THEY HAVE ALL OF THE PAPERWORK, THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE THIS BOND IF THEY'RE STILL MISSING SOME OF THE PAPERWORK.

THEY CAN PROVIDE THIS BOND AND THE CITY WILL ISSUE THE OCCUPANCY PERMIT.

MS. WHITE? THAT IS CORRECT. SO IT IS OPTIONAL BASED ON YOUR INDIVIDUAL SITUATION.

SO IF EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SUBMITTED, THEN YOU WOULD COME IN FOR YOUR OCCUPANCY PERMIT, AND IF THERE'S NOTHING OUTSTANDING AS DETERMINED BY STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION, THEN OCCUPANCY COULD BE GRANTED.

IF YOU WERE STILL WAITING FOR THINGS, WHICH DOES HAPPEN BECAUSE YOU'RE USING THIRD PARTIES, BUT YOU WANT TO GET OCCUPANCY RIGHT AWAY.

THAT'S WHEN YOU COULD OPT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SURETY BOND AND SUBMIT YOUR INFORMATION AT A LATER DATE OR YOU COULD OPT NOT TO USE THE SURETY BOND AND WAIT UNTIL TIMELINE OF THE THIRD PARTY TO GET YOUR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, AS REQUESTED BY OUR BUILDING SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU, AND SO RIGHT NOW, UNTIL YOU SUBMIT ALL YOUR PAPERWORK, YOU CAN'T GET YOUR OCCUPANCY PERMIT.

IS THAT HOW IT WORKS? MS. WHITE. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

I WILL ASK MR. LITTLEFAIR TO PROVIDE MORE DETAIL.

THANK YOU. NO.

CURRENTLY IF YOU HAVE ALL OF YOUR LIFE SAFETY DOCUMENTATION IN THE BUILDINGS CAN BE USED FOR ITS INTENDED PURPOSE.

WE WILL ISSUE OCCUPANCY APPLICANTS AREN'T GIVING US THE FINAL PAPERWORK THAT'S DUE, AND RIGHT NOW IT'S AS HIGH AS 34, BUT THERE'S A BIT OF A BLIP BECAUSE OF COVID AND THIRD PARTIES PROVIDING THE REPORTS.

SO IT IS A PROBLEM.

AND THEN MY QUESTION WOULD BE ABOUT THE AMOUNTS.

SO IS 5,000 ENOUGH TO GET PEOPLE TO DO THEIR THEIR PAPERWORK? HOW DO WE COME UP WITH THESE NUMBERS? LIKE, IS IT ACTUALLY GOING TO BE THE STICK THAT GETS COMPLIANCE? MS. WHITE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WILL ASK MR. LITTLEFAIR TO PROVIDE SOME DETAIL.

HOWEVER, I CAN TELL YOU IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS WHERE I HAVE WORKED BEFORE, IT WAS 5,000 ACROSS THE BOARD, WHERE HERE WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT THE ACTUAL USE IS AND ASSOCIATING A FEE KIND OF IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT, AND I'LL ASK MR. LITTLEFAIR TO PROVIDE MORE DETAIL.

THANK YOU. WE FEEL THAT THE FEES ARE REASONABLE AND WITH THIS MONEY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GO AND FINISH THE WORK OURSELVES AND WE WANTED TO OPT TO THAT SITUATION.

THANK YOU. PERFECT.

NO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING TO INCLUDE.

PAGE 53 OF OUR MEMO.

SECTION 7 OF THE BUILDING BYLAW.

IT TALKS ABOUT, NOTWITHSTANDING SECTION 4, WHICH SAYS THAT WE'RE ADOPTING THE NATIONAL BUILDING CODE.

THE NATIONAL BUILDING CODE IS MODIFIED FOR THE CITY AS SET OUT IN THIS BYLAW.

SO JUST MAKING SURE I UNDERSTAND POINT 4 SAYING WE'RE GOING TO ADOPT THE NATIONAL BUILDING CODE.

POINT 7 SAYING BUT ALSO MODIFYING CERTAIN SECTIONS BASED ON WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE BYLAW.

IS THAT CORRECT, MRS. WHITE? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

SO THE NATIONAL BUILDING CODE, AS WE KNOW, IS KIND OF THE MINIMUM STANDARD, AND THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN ADD ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR REQUIREMENTS IN ADDITION TO WHAT IS SET OUT IN THAT NATIONAL CODE.

I WILL ASK MR. LITTLEFAIR IF HE HAS ANYTHING TO ADD.

THANK YOU. THIS CLAUSE IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY SECTION.

THE OTHER PRESCRIPTIVE ITEMS WE HAVE IN THE ZONING I'M SORRY THE BUILDING BYLAW ARE RIGHT OUT OF THE NATIONAL BUILDING CODE. SO THEY'RE NOT REALLY VARIED, BUT THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY IS.

SO WE NEEDED TO NOTE THAT SECTION OF THE NATIONAL BUILDING CODE IS NOT BEING USED.

IT'S SECTION 936.

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BESIDES THAT, I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD.

HAPPY TO SEE SOME OF THOSE PRESCRIPTIVE OR EXAMPLES THAT PEOPLE CAN USE AND HOPE THAT CAN BOTH HELP PROPONENTS AS WELL AS CITY STAFF BY REDUCING KIND OF ALL THE LOOKING AT THE EXACT SAME THING GOING FORWARD.

SO YEAH, HAPPY TO BRING THIS FORWARD TO COUNCIL NEXT MONDAY.

ANYTHING FURTHER FROM COUNCIL? QUESTIONS? COUNCILLOR.

I THINK YOU GOT COUNCILLOR WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

YEAH, YOU GOT MOST OF IT.

I WAS SUPER EXCITED TO SEE THOSE THE PIER FOUNDATION DESIGNS PARTICULARLY.

I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT FOR DIYERS AND FOLKS THAT WANT TO ADD ADDITIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO HAVING A BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF YELLOWKNIFE I THINK IS A REALLY GOOD EVOLUTION TO THIS PARTICULAR BYLAW.

SO HAPPY TO SEE IT AND GLAD TO SEE ALL THE WORK DONE BY THE PLANNING LANDS DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SEEING NOTHING FURTHER, WE WILL BRING THIS FORWARD TO COUNCIL, WHICH IS NEXT MONDAY, MAY 9TH AT 7:00 PM.

NEXT WE HAVE A MEMORANDUM REGARDING WHETHER TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE TO ADOPT THE 2021 AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

[5. A memorandum regarding whether to accept the recommendation of the Audit Committee to adopt the 2021 audited financial statements.]

ADMINISTRATION IS PLEASED TO PRESENT THE 2021 CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

ONCE AGAIN IN 2021 WE WORKED TO MANAGE OUR RESOURCES PRUDENTLY IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE MUNICIPAL, CORPORATION AND OUR COMMUNITY.

OUR NET WORTH INCREASED BY 15.8 MILLION IN 2021 DUE TO HIGHER THAN ANTICIPATED REVENUES AND LOWER THAN BUDGETED EXPENDITURES.

WE CONTINUE TO HAVE HIGHER AMOUNTS IN OUR GENERAL FUND THAN RECOMMENDED IN OUR BUDGET POLICY, BUT THIS IS DELIBERATE SO THAT WE HAVE A CUSHION TO SUPPORT US IN THESE UNPRECEDENTED TIMES AND AS WE EMERGE FROM THE PANDEMIC TO ADJUST TO CHANGES IN SUPPLY CHAIN AND OTHER PRESSURES.

I WILL ASK MS. WOODWARD TO PROVIDE AN INTRODUCTION AS WELL IF SHE WISHES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. WHITE. AS YOU NOTED, THE CITY ENDED 2021 IN A VERY SOLID FINANCIAL POSITION.

THIS WAS IN LARGE PART BECAUSE OUR REVENUES CAME IN ABOVE BUDGET.

ADMITTEDLY, WE HAD BEEN EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE IN OUR BUDGET NOT KNOWING WHAT COVID HELD FOR US IN THE COURSE OF 2021, AND IT TURNED OUT THAT USER FEES AND SALES OF GOODS, ALONG WITH LAND SALES AND DEVELOPMENT LEVIES, INCLUDING AND OUR INTEREST.

THOSE THINGS ALL CAME IN HIGHER THAN WERE ANTICIPATED.

SO THAT PUT US IN A GOOD, SOLID POSITION WITH OUR REVENUES.

OUR EXPENDITURES WERE LOWER THAN WE HAD BUDGETED.

UNFORTUNATELY, MOST OF IT WAS DUE TO LOWER SALARY COSTS BECAUSE OF STAFF VACANCIES, AND WE ALSO HAD LOWER CONTRACTED COSTS.

THOSE WERE MOSTLY STEMMING FROM SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.

WE SIMPLY CAN'T GET THAT NEW TRUCK, SO WE DIDN'T PAY FOR IT, AND ALSO WE HAD SOME PROJECTS THAT DIDN'T PROCEED AS QUICKLY AS WE HAD HOPED, SO THEREFORE WE DIDN'T OBVIOUSLY INCUR THOSE COSTS.

AND AS MS. WHITE NOTED, THAT LEFT MORE MONEY IN THE GENERAL FUND.

WE DID TRANSFER $7 MILLION DOLLARS TO THE CAPITAL FUND, BUT EVEN SO, THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE REMAINS AT 24.7% OF OUR BUDGETED EXPENDITURES, EXCEEDING THE BUDGET POLICIES UPPER THRESHOLD OF 15%, BUT GIVEN THE LIKELIHOOD THAT COVID IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE FAR REACHING IMPACTS, THE ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES THAT THIS BALANCE CAN AT THIS POINT BE VIEWED AS A PRUDENT BUFFER FOR THE UPCOMING MONTHS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, AND THANKS TO THE STAFF AND THE AUDITORS FOR THIS.

WE DID HAVE OUR AUDIT COMMITTEE JUST ON THURSDAY, SO WE DID RECOMMEND A COUPLE CHANGES, I THINK, AND WE'LL HAVE THOSE BEFORE IT COMES TO COUNCIL NEXT MONDAY NIGHT.

ONE OF THEM IN PARTICULAR IS ON PAGE 106 OF OUR GPC PACKAGE.

WE WERE GOING TO PUT A FOOTNOTE ABOUT THE SOLID WASTE FACILITY BECAUSE AS YOU'LL SEE, THE 2021 BUDGET WAS 4.1 MILLION AND 2021 ACTUALS IS 138 MILLION.

SO AT FIRST YOU MIGHT BE LIKE, OH, THAT'S A TYPO, AND IT'S ACTUALLY BECAUSE THE LANDFILLS, THE LIFESPANS INCREASED, WHICH MEANS THERE'S A DECREASE IN EXPENDITURES.

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SO WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE TIME BETWEEN AUDIT COMMITTEE AND GETTING THIS TO COUNCIL, BUT WE'LL HAVE THAT UPDATED WHEN WE APPROVE IT NEXT MONDAY NIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DISCUSSION? COUNCILLOR MORGAN. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

SO ON THE ASPECT OF OUR FUND STABILIZATION COMPONENT.

SO THE FACT THAT OUR BUDGET POLICY CURRENTLY SAYS THAT THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE SHOULD BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 10 AND 15% OF BUDGETED EXPENDITURES, AND SO THERE'S AN EXPLANATION IN OUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF WHY THIS YEAR WE'VE LEFT IT EQUAL TO ALMOST 25% OF 2021 BUDGET EXPENDITURES, AND I KNOW WE DISCUSSED THIS A LOT AT AROUND BUDGET TIME AND THE PREVIOUS YEAR, TOO.

AND SO WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT HOW THESE ARE EXCEPTIONAL TIMES, THE COVID PANDEMIC.

IS THERE A PLAN, THOUGH? I MEAN, WE CAN'T SORT OF.

WE CAN'T CONTINUE INDEFINITELY JUST SAYING WE'RE ALWAYS IN EXCEPTIONAL TIMES.

AT SOME POINT, EITHER WE CHANGE THE POLICY OR WE DECIDE WE'RE GOING TO ALIGN OURSELVES WITH THE POLICY.

IS DOES THE ADMINISTRATION ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL NEED TO CHANGE OUR BUDGET POLICY SOMETIME IN THE NEXT YEAR OR IS THE GENERAL EXPECTATION THAT BY NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO MEET THE POLICY OF BEING WITHIN THE 10 TO 15% OF BUDGET EXPENDITURES FOR OUR BALANCE IN THE GENERAL FUND? MS. WHITE. MS. WOODWARD.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, AND A SIMILAR POINT WAS RAISED AT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING.

WHY DO WE HAVE A POLICY IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO ADHERE TO IT? WHICH IS CERTAINLY A FAIR QUESTION.

THE BUDGET POLICY WAS ADOPTED PRE-COVID, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY REALLY EXPECTED WHAT COVID HAS DONE TO US AND TO OUR ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT. AT THIS POINT, ADMINISTRATION WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE MAINTAIN THE EXISTING POLICY, BUT FOR YET ANOTHER YEAR, LEAVE THE GENERAL FUND IN THAT BALANCE TO GIVE US A CUSHION.

WE'RE SEEING THE EFFECTS OF COVID STILL, AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO FEEL THIS IN OUR SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUE.

THERE'S GOING TO BE QUITE A ROLLER COASTER RIDE IN OUR EXPENDITURES AS THINGS THAT WE ORDERED A YEAR, 18 MONTHS AGO ARE FINALLY GETTING HERE.

BUT THINGS THAT WE'VE ORDERED NOW MAY OR MAY NOT SHOW UP IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

SO IT WOULD SEEM PRUDENT, GIVEN THESE UNCERTAINTIES, TO KIND OF RIDE OUT THE COVID WAVE, AND THEN WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING THAT BUDGET POLICY BACK FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION, ALONG WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS HOW TO GET BACK TO IT IF WE STILL CONSISTENTLY EXCEED OUR UPPER LIMIT.

I WOULD CAUTION AGAINST SORT OF REACTIONARY CHANGES NOW UNTIL WE WAIT AND SEE HOW THINGS SETTLE OUT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANKS FOR THAT EXPLANATION.

I WAS JUST NOTICING AS I WAS READING THROUGH THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THAT THE LANGUAGE USED AROUND THIS CUSHION THAT WE HAVE IS THAT IT PUTS US IN A STRONG FINANCIAL POSITION, THAT IT HAS A POSITIVE FINANCIAL IMPACT, AND FOR ME, I WOULDN'T YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT A PROFIT SEEKING CORPORATION WHERE THE OBJECTIVE IS TO HAVE AS HIGH AS REVENUES AS POSSIBLE OR SOMETHING.

SO TO ME, IT'S KIND OF IT'S A NEUTRAL SITUATION IN THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE PRUDENT AND HAVE A CUSHION, BUT IT'S NOT POSITIVE PER SE THAT WE WOULD EXCEED OUR EXPECTED REVENUES AND HAVE LOWER THAN EXPECTED EXPENSES, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY OUR MANDATE IS TO OFFER THE SERVICES THAT WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO OFFER AND TO L OWER COSTS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FOR THE PUBLIC IN TERMS OF USER FEES AND THAT.

SO TO ME, IT'S NOT IDEAL THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO SHOW THESE KIND OF SURPLUSES OR EXTRA CUSHIONS UNLESS WE DECIDE THAT OUR POLICY IS TO HAVE A CERTAIN SORT OF INFLATED CUSHION THAT WE DECIDE IS JUST A GOOD IDEA IN GENERAL.

BUT I JUST WANT US TO MAKE SURE IN THE LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE USING THAT WE'RE NOT JUST SORT OF DEFAULTING TO THIS POSITION, THAT THE IDEAL SITUATION FOR THE CITY IS TO HAVE AS HIGH AS REVENUES AS POSSIBLE AND AS LOW EXPENSES AS POSSIBLE.

GIVEN OUR MANDATE. THAT'S IT.

THANKS. YEAH, IT IS TRICKY BECAUSE WE'LL SEE THE SURPLUS WHEN WE DON'T HAVE EMPLOYEES, WHICH MEANS WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DELIVER THE SERVICES.

IT'S NOT THE IDEAL POSITION AT ALL, AND I THINK THE FLIP SIDE IS WE DO HAVE A BIT OF A SURPLUS.

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WE ALSO HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WORDING AND YEAH, YOU KIND OF WANT TO HAVE A BIT OF THAT ANALYSIS IN THE WRITTEN FORM TO EXPLAIN SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS, AND SOMETIMES IT'S NOT EXACTLY HOW WE INTERPRET IT OR HOW WE WANT IT TO BE DELIVERED, BUT POINT TAKEN FOR NEXT YEAR'S FINANCIALS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, I'LL JUST DOUBLE CHECK.

YEP. WE WILL BRING THAT FORWARD AND AGAIN, WE'LL JUST HAVE A FEW LITTLE TWEAKS, BUT IT'LL BE BROUGHT FORWARD NEXT MONDAY AT 7:00 PM.

AND NEXT WE HAVE A DISCUSSION REGARDING WHETHER TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SEASONAL TIME CHANGE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

[6. A discussion regarding whether to participate in the Seasonal Time Change Public Engagement.]

IF IT'S B, THEN IT'S WHAT TIME DO WE WANT TO BE SET UP? AND SO THE QUESTION IS, THERE'S A SURVEY OUT RIGHT NOW, EVERY RESIDENT'S PERSONALLY ABLE TO DO IT, BUT AS A CORPORATION, THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE, WE CAN ALSO COMPLETE THE SURVEY.

SO JUST LOOKING TO HEAR FROM COUNCIL.

IF YOU ARE SUPPORTIVE OF GETTING RID OF DAYLIGHT SAVINGS OR IF YOU, AND IF SO, WHICH OPTION YOU'D LIKE TO GO WITH. MS. WHITE DID ADMIN HAVE ANY OPENING COMMENTS ON THIS ONE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOT AT THIS TIME.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, AND YES, FOR OUR RESIDENTS, IT'S JUST A LITTLE SURVEY MONKEY AND YOU CAN DO IT UP UNTIL MIDNIGHT ON MAY 16TH.

SO OPENING IT UP TO COUNCIL, THERE'S OPTION A NWT MOVES TO PERMANENT MOUNTAIN DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME.

THAT GIVES YOU A BIT MORE DAYLIGHT IN THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING IN THE WINTERS OPTION B NWT MOVES TO PERMANENT MOUNTAIN STANDARD TIME, WHICH GIVES YOU A BIT MORE DAYLIGHT IN THE SUMMER, AND OPTION C IS NO CHANGE NWT KEEPS DOING THE TIME CHANGE.

COUNCILLOR KONGE.

THANKS. YOU KNOW, I GREW UP ON A DAIRY FARM.

AND THAT TIME CHANGE WAS ACTUALLY REALLY NICE TO BE ABLE TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE MORNING LIGHT.

I'M STILL A MORNING GUY.

I ACTUALLY DON'T MIND THE TIME CHANGE AT ALL.

IT WORKS FOR ME.

I DON'T THINK IT'S A BIG DEAL.

YOU KNOW, THE ADJUSTMENT ISN'T THAT HARD, AND YEAH, FOR ME IT WORKS.

SO I WOULD MY VOICE WOULD SAY, KEEP IT THE SAME.

OPTION D FOR COUNCIL IS THAT THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE A POSITION AND RESIDENTS SHOULD HAVE THEIR OWN POSITIONS.

SO BUT OPTION C FOR COUNCILLOR KONGE.

COUNCILLOR WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. DO WE KNOW WHAT ALBERTA IS UP TO OR IF THEY HAVE ANY PLANS TO CHANGE OR WHAT'S GOING ON THERE? THEY DID A WONKY REFERENDUM THAT WAS STRUCK DOWN AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE GOING TO OVERRIDE THAT OR CONTINUE. [INAUDIBLE] I GUESS MY BIGGEST FEAR WOULD BE TO BE OUT OF SYNC WITH ALBERTA.

I THINK THAT THERE'S A NUMBER ONE, IT'S A MAJOR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR THAT MANY OF OUR INDUSTRIES RELY ON AND BEING OUT OF SYNC WITH THAT, AS YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS TRAVEL GOES OR JUST GENERALLY DOING BUSINESS, I THINK WOULD BE A BIT OF A PROBLEM FOR THE TERRITORY.

YOU KNOW, MY POSITION WOULD BE LOOK TO SOME OF THE LARGER CAPITAL CITIES AS THEY MOVE THEN WE REACT TO IT, BUT OF COURSE US JUST DETERMINING OUR OWN TIME I THINK WOULD BE CHALLENGING WHEN SO MUCH OF OUR COMMERCE HAPPENS WITH A MUCH LARGER PROVINCE THAT'S RIGHT TO OUR SOUTHERN BORDER. AND IT WOULD BE KIND OF WEIRD TO CROSS THE LATITUDINAL BORDER AND HAVE IT CHANGE TIME AS OPPOSED TO GOING EAST OR WEST.

YEAH. SO WITHOUT ANY MORE INFORMATION ON ALBERTA, I GUESS I'M KIND OF WITH COUNCILOR KONGE ON THIS ONE AND LEAVING IT THE SAME BECAUSE I WOULD RATHER NOT BE A TRAILBLAZER AS A SMALL TERRITORY ON THIS PARTICULAR FRONT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILOR MUFANDAEDZA.

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I THINK I AGREE WITH THE TWO COUNCILLORS THAT HAVE SPOKEN.

I THINK KEEPING IT WITH C IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE LOOKED AT AS A BUSINESS THAT WOULD LIKE TO DO BUSINESS IN DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TIME OF THE YEAR IT IS AND WHAT TIME ZONES WOULD DEFINITELY BE CHALLENGING.

SO I WOULD SAY GOING WITH C.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER? COUNCILLOR PAYNE.

YEAH, I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE HERE.

NOT THAT I THINK THIS REALLY MATTERS, BUT IT'D BE GOOD TO STICK WITH ALBERTA.

SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY BIG WASTE OF TIME PERSONALLY.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILLOR MORGAN. I MEAN, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO GO WITH OPTION A.

WE'RE ALREADY OBVIOUSLY IN DIFFERENT TIME ZONES WITH LOTS OF DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS IN CANADA AND SOME JURISDICTIONS ALREADY ARE MOVING AWAY FROM THE TIME CHANGE.

SO. I THINK ANY WAY YOU SLICE IT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET USED TO A NEW NORMAL. AND I THINK I DON'T HAVE RESEARCH AT MY FINGERTIPS HERE, BUT I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A FAIR AMOUNT OF RESEARCH THAT JUST THAT TWICE YEARLY TIME CHANGE DOES IT CREATES SIGNIFICANT DISRUPTION FOR MANY PEOPLE AND LOST PRODUCTIVITY , AND LOTS OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN REALLY ANXIOUS FOR US TO LEAVE THAT BEHIND BECAUSE THEY DON'T SEE ANY REAL UPSIDE TO IT OR BENEFIT TO IT.

SO I THINK WE WOULD DO WELL TO MOVE TO SOME PERMANENT TIME.

I SEE BENEFITS IN OPTION A GIVEN THAT WE COULD HAVE MORE DAYLIGHT INTO THE AFTERNOONS AND EVENINGS IN THE WINTER.

OPTION B, WHICH GIVES US MORE DAYLIGHT IN THE MORNINGS, IN THE SUMMER TO ME IS KIND OF IRRELEVANT HERE IN THE TERRITORY ANYWAY.

SO I WOULD BE LEANING TOWARDS OPTION A GIVEN THAT MANY PEOPLE DOING BUSINESS WITH OTHER PARTS OF CANADA ALREADY HAVE TO GET USED TO DIFFERENT TIME ZONES AND THAT'S ALREADY SHIFTING.

SO I THINK THAT'S JUST PART OF WHAT WE DEAL WITH AND TO ME, THE FOCUS SHOULD BE ON LIKE WELL-BEING OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THESE TWICE YEARLY TIME CHANGES HERE.

THANK YOU.

JUST NOTING SO ONTARIO'S PASSED LEGISLATION TO MOVE TO PERMANENT DAYLIGHT TIME CONTINGENT ON SIMILAR MOVES FROM QUEBEC AND NEW YORK STATE.

SO PERHAPS IT'S A BIT OF AN OPTION, D.

I'M HEARING FROM COUNCILLOR MUFANDAEDZA AND COUNCILLOR WILLIAMS, IF ALBERTA MOVES, THEN NORTHWEST TERRITORIES SHOULD ALSO CONSIDER VERSUS THE GNWT'S CURRENT THREE PROPOSALS. COUNCILOR WILLIAMS. YEAH, JUST TO CLARIFY MY POINT, YEAH, I WOULD ALWAYS WANT TO BE IN A LINE WITH ALBERTA.

SO IF IT WAS, IF THEY WERE TO MAKE THE CHANGE, I WOULD WANT US TO MAKE THE CHANGE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

YEAH. COUNCILLOR MORSE OR SMITH, DO YOU HAVE ANY ANY OPINIONS ON THIS ONE? YEP. OVER TO YOU, COUNCILLOR MORSE.

THANK YOU. YEAH, I DO HAVE PERSONAL OPINIONS ON THIS ONE.

I RESPONDED TO THE SURVEY.

I'VE HEARD A NUMBER OF COUNCILLORS PERSONAL OPINIONS.

I GUESS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS FEEDBACK FROM THE CITY ABOUT THIS.

I GUESS THE DIFFICULTY I HAVE WITH THIS ONE IS THAT IT REALLY IS UP TO RESIDENTS AND THERE'S A LOT OF PERSONAL PREFERENCES INVOLVED.

I THINK ALBERTA KIND OF MADE THEIR DECISION IN THE REFERENDUM.

IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAY WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK OR NOT, AND AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, ALBERTA KIND OF MADE ITS DECISION WHEN THEY HAD THAT REFERENDUM.

SO THAT KIND OF DOES PUT US IN A BIT OF A DIFFICULT PLACE WITH OTHER PROVINCES KIND OF LOOKING AT THIS.

IT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE THAT IT HASN'T JUST BEEN DEALT WITH NATIONALLY, HONESTLY, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S CONFUSING AND DIFFICULT THAT ALL OF THESE SEPARATE PROVINCIAL JURISDICTIONS OR TERRITORIAL JURISDICTIONS ARE ALL DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY.

IT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT I THINK SHOULD HAVE BEEN COORDINATED PROBABLY AT A NATIONAL LEVEL, AND WE COULD JUST DECIDE KIND OF AS A COUNTRY IF WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THIS TIME CHANGE THING OR NOT.

BECAUSE HAVING ALL THESE DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS, IT'S JUST KIND OF CONFUSING.

I THINK THE THING IS HERE IS THAT WHICHEVER WAY THE TERRITORY GOES, WHETHER IT'S STICKING WITH TIME CHANGES, WHETHER AND I THINK IF OTHER JURISDICTIONS LIKE ALBERTA GOT RID OF IT, THE DECISION WOULD EFFECTIVELY BE MADE FOR US AND WE'D VERY QUICKLY SWITCH.

THE TOUGH THING IS DECIDING WHAT TO DO OUTSIDE OF IT, BECAUSE I'M SURE THERE'S PEOPLE WHO HAVE FAMILY ON THE EAST COAST WHO WOULD LOVE FOR US TO HAVE LESS OF A

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ANY TIME PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING TO AND FROM ALBERTA, IT WOULD BE DEFINITELY EASIER IF THERE ISN'T A TIME CHANGE.

I WOULD SAY IN SOME CASES IT COULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS IF YOU'RE DOING BUSINESS IN ALBERTA TO FLY THERE AND HAVE THEM BE AN HOUR BEHIND US BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE GAINING AN HOUR WHEN YOU TRAVEL THERE FOR WORK.

SO THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE PRETTY USEFUL, I THINK, FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING BUSINESS TRAVEL, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE GOING IN FOR A MEETING JUST THAT DAY, IT WOULD GIVE THEM AN EXTRA HOUR AND THEY WOULDN'T LOSE THAT HOUR ON THE FLIGHT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF PROS AND CONS HERE, BUT THE ONE THING I DID WANT TO SAY IS THAT THIS ISN'T SOMETHING I'VE BEEN HEARING AS A COUNCILLOR FROM CONSTITUENTS ON.

AND AS THE SURVEYS BEING DONE AT A TERRITORIAL LEVEL, I THINK THAT MY PREFERENCE AS A REPRESENTATIVE WOULD BE TO DEFER TO THE MAJORITY OPINION OF YELLOWKNIFERS IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY RESPOND IN THE SURVEY, AND SO I KIND OF FEEL LIKE EACH INDIVIDUAL'S PERSONAL OPINIONS IS SOMEWHAT RELEVANT, BUT WHEN THERE'S A SURVEY IN PLACE, I MEAN, RESIDENTS ARE ALREADY BEING ASKED FOR THEIR OPINION.

SO US AS REPRESENTATIVES DON'T HAVE AS MUCH OF A ROLE IN THAT SENSE.

SO I KIND OF FEEL LIKE I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO IMPOSE MY PERSONAL OPINION AND HAVE THAT INFLUENCE THE DECISION.

JUST BECAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN HEARING FROM LIKE A GROUP OF RESIDENTS SAYING WE WANT THIS SPECIFIC THING AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE CITY STAFF HAVE OR, YOU KNOW, ADMINISTRATION HAS AN OPINION IN TERMS OF HOW DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME AFFECTS THE CORPORATION.

I KNOW WHEN GNWT DID RESEARCH ON THIS, THEY FOUND OUT THAT THE DAYS WHEN THE TIME CHANGES ARE THEIR MOST COMMON SICK DAYS OR WE'RE ACTUALLY LOSING STAFF TIME, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS THEY MADE FOR NOT SWITCHING ANYMORE.

SO THERE'S LOTS TO BE CONSIDERED, BUT JUST TO KIND OF SUM THIS UP, I WOULD PROBABLY PREFER IF THE CITY IF, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR HAS BEEN ASKED FOR HER COMMENTARY AND I WOULD SAY AS A COUNCIL AS A COUNCILLOR, I JUST SIMPLY DEFER TO WHAT THE MAJORITY OF CITIZENS HAVE SAID IN THE SURVEY AS OPPOSED TO KIND OF OFFERING AN OPINION HERE OR THERE.

I MEAN, EACH OF US HAS INDIVIDUAL OPINIONS AND THOUGHTS ON THIS, BUT I THINK IT'S UP FOR A MAJORITY OF CITIZENS TO DECIDE, THAT IS HOW THEY DID IT IN ALBERTA.

THEY HAD THEIR REFERENDUM.

IT'LL BE INTERESTING IN THE TERRITORY THAT THEY'RE SIMPLY DOING A SURVEY AND IF THEY COME BACK WITH A DECISION THAT RESIDENTS DON'T LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF A REFERENDUM IS GOING TO BE DEMANDED OR WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.

I KIND OF THINK ON THIS ONE WE'D ALMOST BE BETTER OFF JUST DEFERRING TO CITIZENS.

THEY'RE GOING TO KNOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE FROM WHEN THEY ENTER THE SURVEY, AND WE CAN SIMPLY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT A MAJORITY OF YELLOWKNIFERS SAYS IS WHAT WE WANT TO GO WITH.

I THINK THAT'S A MORE FAIR THING THAN SAYING, HERE'S MY OPINION ON THIS AND I WOULD LIKE TO IMPOSE THAT ON EVERYBODY.

I MEAN, I THINK IT'S JUST A VERY PERSONAL THING.

I'VE HEARD FROM LOTS OF PARENTS WHO DON'T LIKE THE TIME CHANGE.

I'VE HEARD FROM LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY THINK IT'S IRRELEVANT AND THEY DON'T CARE, AND THERE IS LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO THINK, WELL, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO STAY SYNCHED WITH ALBERTA. SO THERE'S JUST SO MANY DIFFERENT THOUGHTS ON THIS.

I KNOW WHERE I STAND, BUT I DON'T THINK AS A REPRESENTATIVE, MY PERSONAL OPINION MATTERS SO MUCH.

I THINK IT'S JUST BETTER TO DEFER TO THE CITIZENS.

SO THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ON IT.

THANK YOU. YEAH, AND IT IS KIND OF A QUICKLY EVOLVING BECAUSE I NOW SEE THE US SENATE APPROVED THE SUNSHINE PROTECTION ACT, SO THEN THERE'LL BE A WHOLE BUNCH OF STATES AN THAT MAYBE DROPPING DAYLIGHT SAVINGS AND THEN B.C.

IS GOING TO CHANGE AND THEN ONTARIO AND THEN WE'LL ALL JUST FOLLOW.

SO.

ANYTHING FURTHER? ALTY. COUNCILLOR SMITH, THANK YOU.

I'M ACTUALLY PRETTY MUCH ON PAR WITH COUNCILLOR MORSE ON THIS.

I MEAN, I HAVE MY PERSONAL OPINION, BUT IT'S THE SUGGESTION OR THE, YOU KNOW, RESPONSE IS WARRANTED FROM ALL OF THE NWT ON THIS MATTER.

I MEAN, AS A BUSINESS OWNER, REALLY, IF YOU'RE A SMALL BUSINESS, YOU DON'T WORK A 9 TO 5 JOB, YOU WORK A 24 SEVEN 365 DAYS A YEAR, AND MOST PEOPLE DO EVERYTHING VIA EMAIL, CHECK, THAT TYPE OF THING.

SO REALLY TIME FRAME REALLY DOESN'T MATTER ON THAT PART.

WHEN IT COMES TO TRYING TO BE ON PAR WITH ALBERTA, I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY MOVING AWAY FROM THEIR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM.

SO I MEAN, WE'RE SLOWLY TRYING TO DETACH OURSELVES FROM WHAT EXACTLY ALBERTA IS DOING.

SO REALLY, I MEAN, I HAVE MY PERSONAL OPINION ON IT, BUT AGAIN, IT'S VERY MUCH GOING TO BE BROUGHT TO EVERYONE, AND I'M JUST ONE OUT OF MANY AND IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THE PUBLIC REALLY AS TO WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE GOING FORWARD.

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I APPRECIATE THAT.

I REMEMBER BRINGING THIS OVER TO RYLAND AWHILE BACK, SO IT'S NICE THAT THE CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING.

THANK YOU. I'D ALSO SUPPORT OPTION D, I GUESS DEFERRING TO YELLOWKNIFERS POSITION, MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THE GNWT.

COUNCILLOR SILVERIO AS WELL.

SO THAT'S FOUR FOR THAT OPTION, FOUR FOR C.

COUNCILLOR MORGAN.

YEAH, I COULD GO WITH OPTION D JUST DEFERRING TO YELLOWKNIFERS.

I AGREE WITH THE COUNCILLOR MORSE'S POINTS THAT THIS AFFECTS LOTS OF PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT WAYS, AND SO, YEAH, WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO HAVE A POSITION AS A CITY.

YEAH. SOUNDS GOOD.

I'M MORE OF A C THAN I AM A D.

YEAH. WE HAVE FOUR C'S AND NOW ONE, TWO, THREE, FIVE D'S.

SO STILL ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY ELSE TO RESPOND, AND THEN THEN YOU'LL TECHNICALLY STILL GET C BY D, AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE TECHNICALLY FROM A CORPORATION PERSPECTIVE THAT WE'VE GOT A STRONG POSITION FROM A STAFF ANGLE.

SO OKEY DOKEY, WITH THAT, WE'LL COMPLETE THAT SURVEY.

[7. A memorandum regarding the Minutes of the Heritage Committee meeting of April 12, 2022.]

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE THANKS TO THE HERITAGE COMMITTEE FOR THOSE, AND THAT'S IT.

IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

MOVED BY COUNCILLOR MUFANDAEDZA.

SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR SILVERIO.

ANYBODY OPPOSED? SEEING NONE WE'LL SEE EVERYBODY NEXT MONDAY AT NOON.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.