Sep 20, 2021 Governance & Priorities Committee

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I WILL CALL OUR GOVERNANCE AND PRIORITIES COMMITTEE MEETING FOR MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 20TH, 20

[1. Opening Statement]

AND FIRST, I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE IS LOCATED IN CHIEF DRYGEESE TERRITORY.

FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL, IT'S BEEN THE TRADITIONAL LAND OF THE YELLOWKNIFE DENE FIRST NATION. WE RESPECT THE HISTORIES, LANGUAGES AND CULTURES OF ALL OTHER INDIGENOUS PEOPLES, INCLUDING THE NORTH SLAVE METIS AND ALL FIRST NATIONS MÉTIS AND INUIT, WHOSE PRESENCE CONTINUES TO ENRICH OUR VIBRANT COMMUNITY.

AND MS. BASSI-KELLETT NEXT, WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.

[2. Approval of the agenda.]

YES, I HAVE AN IN-CAMERA ITEM TO ADD FOR A MATTER UNDER CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT, WE HAVE A DISCLOSURE OF PECUNIARY INTEREST IN THE GENERAL NATURE THEREOF.

DOES ANY MEMBER HAVE A PECUNIARY INTEREST TODAY? SEEING NONE.

NEXT, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM PUBLIC WORKS REGARDING KAM LAKE TRANSIT OPTIONS AND NEW

[4. A presentation from Public Works regarding Kam Lake Transit options and new route implementation plan.]

MS. BASSI-KELLETT THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.

THE PRESENTATION AND THE MEMO THAT'S IN THE PACKAGE FOR GPC TODAY GO TOGETHER.

SO I'LL DO A VERY BRIEF INTRODUCTION BEFORE I HAND THINGS OVER TO MS. NEWTON TO PRESENT.

COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL REMEMBER THAT WATT CONSULTING GROUP PROVIDED THE CITY WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON OUR TRANSIT SERVICE IN 2019 AND WHEN COUNCIL CONSIDER THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. COUNCIL DIRECTED THAT OPTIONS FOR SERVICES TO KAM LAKE BE BROUGHT FORWARD. AND SO ADMINISTRATION WORKED WITH WATT TO PROVIDE OPTIONS ON THIS.

AND SO TODAY WE PRESENT OUR RECOMMENDED APPROACH OUT OF THEIR OPTIONS SO THAT ADMINISTRATION CAN BEGIN TO PLAN THESE CHANGES TO OUR SERVICE LEVELS.

TYING SERVICE TO KAM LAKE WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF OTHER TRANSIT CHANGES ENABLES US TO PROVIDE THIS SERVICE WITH MINIMAL COST, GIVEN WE ARE NOWHERE NEAR FULL COST RECOVERY FOR FEES FOR OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM, FROM FEES FOR OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM.

IN ORDER TO PROVIDE TRANSIT SERVICES THAT REACH THE MOST RIDERS WHILE REMAINING COST EFFICIENT ADMINISTRATION ENDORSES WATT'S RECOMMENDATION THAT WE EXTEND THE EXPRESS ROUTE INTO KAM LAKE DURING THE WEEKDAY MORNINGS AND AFTERNOON PEAK PERIODS.

SO I WILL TURN THINGS OVER NOW TO WENDY, WHO WILL BE THE PRESENTER, AND SHE'LL GIVE THE OVERVIEW OF THE INFORMATION CONTAINED.

THANK YOU. OVER TO YOU, WENDY.

YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OK, SO WE'LL LOOK AT OUR KAM LAKE TRANSIT OPTIONS AND OUR NEW ROUTE IMPLEMENTATION TIMELINE. BEFORE THIS PRESENTATION, WE'LL FIRST LOOK AT THE KAM LAKE ROUTING AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT OUR IMPLEMENTATION CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE ROUTES, INCLUDING NEW EQUIPMENT SYSTEM, REBRANDING CHANGES TO FARE'S UPDATES TO DOCUMENTATION AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

SO FIRST, A LOOK AT KAM LAKEROUTING WHEN WE INITIALLY STARTED LOOKING AT KAM LAKE ROUTING, WE WENT BACK TO THE TRANSIT REVIEW STUDY THAT WAS DONE BY THE WATT CONSULTING GROUP. THE RECOMMENDATIONS MOVING FORWARD FROM THAT ESSENTIALLY REMOVES THE USE OF TAXIS TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO KAME LAKE, AND IT ALSO REMOVE THE USE OF USE OF A YACHT BUS FOR THE SERVICE, AS THE COST FOR BOTH OF THESE OPTIONS WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN ANY OPTIONS THAT USED EXISTING EQUIPMENT.

SO WE LOOKED AT OPTIONS FOR SHORT, MEDIUM AND LONG TERM IMPLEMENTATION IN ORDER TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO KAM LAKE.

THE SIMPLEST OPTION THAT WAS FOUND FOR THE SHORT TERM IS TO ADD SERVICE TO THE EXPRESS ROUTE. ESSENTIALLY, WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT IN THE MORNING, THE EXPRESS ROUTE WOULD RUN THROUGH THE KAM LAKE AREA BEFORE THE FRAME AREA AND THEN IN THE AFTERNOON AFTER THE FRAMEWORK AREA WAS DONE, IT WOULD THEN RETURN TO KAM LAKE, ADDING THE KAM LAKE ROUTE KAM LAKE AREA WOULD INCREASE THE EXPRESS ROUTE BY APPROXIMATELY ONE HOUR PER WEEKDAY.

THIS WILL THEN REQUIRE AN INCREASE IN HOURS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE SERVICE ALL YEAR AS EXPRESS ROUTES ARE CURRENTLY ONLY IN SERVICE OR IN THE SCHOOL YEAR, MEANING THEY SERVICE FROM SEPTEMBER THROUGH JUNE.

SO WE WOULD NEED AN ADDITIONAL TWO MONTHS OF SERVICE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE YEAR ROUND SERVICE TO THE KAM LAKE AREA.

CURRENTLY, THIS IMPLEMENTATION IS BEING COORDINATED WITH THE ROOM.

THE NEW ROUTES, AS THAT IS THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE SOLUTION, COORDINATING WITH THE ROUTES

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THE NEW ROUTES WILL HAVE SLIGHTLY FEWER HOURS OF SERVICE DUE TO THE INNER LINING OF THE ROUTES AND THE COORDINATION BETWEEN THEM.

THOSE ADDITIONAL HOURS WOULD THEN BE APPLIED TO KAM LAKE ROUTING AND THIS EXPRESS ROUTE, SO THEREFORE THE COST WILL BE MINIMIZED FOR THAT.

SO A LOOK AT WHAT THE KAM LAKE ROUTE, THE CURRENT DRAFT ROUTE IS ESSENTIALLY THE ROUTE WOULD START ON KAM LAKE ROAD.

IT WOULD THEN TRAVEL TO GRACE LAKE BOULEVARD, ENTERPRISE DRIVE, TALTHEILEI DRIVE AND DEH CHO BOULEVARD, ESSENTIALLY COMPLETING THE LOOP THIS ROUTE.

WE STILL HAVE YET TO DETERMINE THE EXACT LOCATION FOR STOPS ON THE ROUTES AND IF THERE WILL BE ANY BUS SHELTERS THAT WILL BE PROVIDED ON THESE ROUTES AS WELL.

SO WHEN YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE DRAFT ROUTES FOR THE NEW, THE NEW ROUTES THAT ARE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED.

IT ESSENTIALLY ALLOWS FOR THAT KAM LAKE SECTION TO BE ADDED ONTO THIS ROUTE NUMBER ONE.

OUR ROUTES NUMBERS, ONE, TWO AND THREE ARE INTERTWINED AS PER RECOMMENDATION NUMBER THREE FROM THE TRANSIT REVIEW STUDY.

THIS MEANS THAT SERVICE TO [INAUDIBLE] ARE SOMETIMES ALIGNED WITH ROUTE ONE, AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE ALIGNED WITH ROUTE TWO.

IT ALLOWS FOR BETTER OVERALL SERVICE OF YELLOWKNIFE, AND IT PROVIDES ROUGHLY 20 MINUTE SERVICE FROM ALL AREAS OF TOWN TO THE DOWNTOWN CORE.

ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THE NEW ROUTES.

THE FIRST ITEM IS OUR NEW FULLY ACCESSIBLE FLEET.

SO BY DECEMBER 2022, THE CITY EXPECTS TO HAVE ALL REGULAR AND SPARE BUSSES WILL BE LOW FLOOR BUSSES AND WILL INCLUDE AUTOMATED PASSENGER COUNTERS, AUTOMATED STOP ANNOUNCEMENTS AND ELECTRONIC FARE BOXES.

AND THE SECOND ITEM IS OUR SYSTEM REBRANDING.

BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE A FULLY ACCESSIBLE FLEET IN DECEMBER OF 2022.

IT IS EXPECTED THAT THE TRANSIT SYSTEM AS A WHOLE WILL BE REBRANDED AS CURRENTLY WE HAVE YELLOWKNIFE TRANSIT AND YELLOWKNIFE ACCESSIBLE TRANSIT, AND NOW WE WILL HAVE ACCESSIBLE TRANSIT FOR BOTH CONVENTIONAL AND FOR [INAUDIBLE].

SO WE ARE EXPECTING THAT THE SYSTEM WILL BE REBRANDED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT REBRANDING THE SYSTEM AS YELLOWKNIFE TRANSIT AND YELLOWKNIFE FLEX TRANSIT.

BUT CHANGES TO FARES IS ANOTHER ITEM THAT IS TO BE UPDATED.

IT'S EXPECTED THAT THESE WILL OCCUR FOR DECEMBER 2022, AS THAT'S WHEN THE ELECTRONIC FARE BOXES ARE EXPECTED TO COME INTO USE.

SO THE CHANGES FOR FARES INCLUDE ITEMS SUCH AS THE INTRODUCTION OF A DAY PASS, INTRODUCTION OF A FAMILY TRAVEL PROGRAM, INTRODUCTION OF A SINGLE CASH FARE, SIMPLIFICATION OF OUR FARES ON OUR PRINTED DOCUMENTATION AND THE POSSIBILITY OF INTRODUCTION OF INTEGRAL PAYMENTS FOR ANNUAL PASSES.

ALL OF THESE ITEMS ARE BASED ON WATTS REVIEW OF OUR TRANSIT FARES.

THE NEXT STEP IN THE IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE IS UPDATES TO DOCUMENTATION IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THE NEW ROUTES, WE WILL NEED TO [INAUDIBLE] THE REBRANDING, WE WILL NEED TO UPDATE OUR PRINTED BUS SCHEDULE.

THE INDIVIDUAL BUS STOP SCHEDULES AT EVERY SINGLE STOP.

THE INTENT IS TO CREATE A VISITOR FOCUSED RACK CARD AND THEN FOR OUR YACHTS, WE'LL NEED TO UPDATE THE RIDERS, GUIDE THE GUIDELINES AND THE APPLICATIONS.

CHANGES TO THESE DOCUMENTS ARE GOING TO BE BASED ON WATTS REVIEW OF THE YACHT SYSTEM AS A WHOLE. PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT BEFORE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NEW ROUTES IS A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE, AS THE.

THE NEW TRANSIT ROUTES, WHILE THEY WILL PROVIDE BETTER, BETTER SERVICE AND BETTER TIMES OF SERVICE TO THE DOWNTOWN CORE FROM THE OUTER AREAS, THEY ARE MORE COMPLICATED THAN WITH THE CURRENT ROUTES ARE SO THAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IS EXPECTED TO OCCUR BETWEEN JANUARY AND MARCH IN 2023, SO THAT ANY COMMENTS THAT WE DO RECEIVE CAN BE COORDINATED AND ADDED INTO OUR FINAL DOCUMENTS.

THE COMMUNICATION PLAN IS EXPECTED TO START IN MAY OF 2023 AND CONTINUE FROM MAY AND JUNE IN 2023.

AND THAT WILL BE A CONTINUATION OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ON HOW THE NEW ROUTES WORK.

AND THEN FINALLY, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE NEW ROUTES IS EXPECTED TO OCCUR IN JULY OF 2023. THE RECOMMENDATION FROM WATCH WAS THAT THE ROUTES BE IMPLEMENTED PRIOR TO A HIGH

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THIS GIVES A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF OUR KAM LAKE OPTIONS AND OUR TRANSIT IMPLEMENTATION TIMELINE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OPENING IT UP TO QUESTIONS [INAUDIBLE].

[5. A memorandum regarding whether to move forward with the short‐term implementation plan to bring transit to Kam Lake as part of the Transit Route Revision implementation plan.]

SOUND IS STILL NOT WORKING.

IF YOU'RE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL BEFORE I COME BACK TO COUNCILLOR PAYNE. COUNCILLOR WILLIAMS. AND THEN COUNCILLOR MORSE. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

SORRY FOR THE NOISE IN HERE, BUT JUST SORT OF CURIOUS IF A LITTLE SPUR OFF TO GRACE LAKE WAS CONSIDERED AND WHAT SOME OF THE IMPLICATIONS WOULD BE AROUND ADDING THAT LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA TO TOUCH, AT LEAST THAT RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT WAS IN THERE JUST KIND OF CURIOUS MORE ABOUT THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT ADMINISTRATION HAD FOR DETERMINING THE EXISTING ROUTE AND HOW GRACE LAKE FACTORED INTO THAT.

FOR SURE. MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IF. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCILLOR WILLIAMS, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE RATIONALE AND LOGIC BEHIND SOME OF THESE ROUTES, AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MS. NEWTON, WHO'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS.

BUT A BIG PART OF THIS WAS LOOKING AT WHERE WE EXPECT USERS TO BE IF WE HAVE CUT SERVICE THROUGH NORTHLANDS, BUT WE ADD IN GRACE LAKE, IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE THAT WE WOULD HAVE A VERY SIGNIFICANT OUTTAKE OF USERS IN GRACE LAKE THROUGH THAT ROUTE.

WE CERTAINLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT PEOPLE COULD VERY WELL WANT TO USE IT AND THEREFORE, OF COURSE, THE BUS ROUTE DOES GO IMMEDIATELY PAST GRACE LAKE.

I THINK ANOTHER PIECE OF THIS AS WELL IS THE ABILITY FOR THE BUS TO TURN AROUND AT THE END. EASIER SAID THAN DONE.

IF THERE IS A VERY BIG SNOW LOAD AND LOTS OF YOU KNOW THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SPACE FOR THE BUS TO TURN AROUND. I'VE GARBLED THAT FROM A VERY SIMPLISTIC POINT OF VIEW.

I WILL ASK MS. NEWTON TO FOLLOW UP.

THANKS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AS SHEILA NOTED, ONE OF THE MAIN CONSIDERATIONS IS THE CONFIGURATION OF THE END OF GRACE LAKE BOULEVARD. AS I SAID, WE'RE STILL IN THE DRAFT PHASES FOR THIS ROUTE, SO THERE IS POTENTIAL THAT WE MAY GO RIGHT TO THE END OF GRACE LAKE BOULEVARD AND USE THAT TURNAROUND. BUT RIGHT NOW, THIS IS THE ROUTE THAT'S BEING ENVISIONED.

PERFECT, COUNCILLOR MORSE.

THANK YOU. AND A FEW QUESTIONS.

FIRST ONE IS PRETTY SIMPLE.

IT MENTIONS A FEW TIMES IN THE MEMO THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A CHANGE TO THE FARE STRUCTURE, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT CHANGE IS GOING TO BE.

DID WE ENDED UP DECIDING ON SOMETHING.

OR HAS ADMINISTRATION COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION? MS. BASSI-KELLETT. I WILL ASK MS. NEWTON TO RESPOND TO THIS.

THANK YOU. SO THE FARE STRUCTURE, THE ORIGINAL REPORT FROM WATT HAD SOME SUGGESTIONS ON CHANGES THAT COULD BE MADE TO FARES.

THE CITY IS STILL REVIEWING THOSE AND IT WILL COME FORWARD BEFORE IMPLEMENTATION.

SO THESE ARE THINGS LIKE THE FAMILY PASS THAT I MENTIONED AND.

YEAH, THERE WAS FAMILY PASS, A SINGLE CASH FAIR DAY PASSES.

SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE STILL BEING FINALIZED AND DETERMINED, AND THEY WILL STILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL BEFORE IMPLEMENTATION.

OK, THANKS. I GUESS I'LL JUST LEAVE COMMENTS ON THAT TO WHEN THAT COMES TO COUNCIL.

SO I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE PROPOSAL HERE, AND I THINK THIS IS FOR.

OK, SO THE SHORT TERM INTEGRATED SERVICE OPTIONS, SO THIS OPTION IS THE ONE THAT WE'D BE DOING TEMPORARY AS OF RIGHT NOW.

IS THAT CORRECT? MS. BASSI-KELLETT. MS. NEWTON. THANK YOU, SO THIS OPTION WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED ONCE THE NEW ROUTES ARE IN PLACE, SO THAT WOULD COME INTO PLAY IN JULY OF 2023.

OK. OK, SO IT WOULDN'T.

SO IT'S. I GUESS I'M A LITTLE BIT MORE CONFUSED BY THAT ANSWER THEN, BECAUSE I THOUGHT WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WAS A SHORT TERM OPTION THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED RIGHT AWAY AND THEN A LONGER TERM OPTION THAT WOULD HAPPEN.

I GUESS I JUST MISREAD THAT.

I SEE SHAUNA SHAKING HER HEAD.

MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.

YES, WE'RE TRYING TO INCORPORATE CHANGES THAT ARE BOTH COMPREHENSIVE AND IN RESPONSE TO OUR NEW CONTRACT, LIKE ALL OF THE ACCESSIBLE TRANSIT OPTIONS, AS WELL AS THE CHANGES TO

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SOMETHING'S HAPPENING NOW.

OTHER THINGS, WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY PLAN THIS IN A WAY SO THAT USERS CAN INCORPORATE AND PLAN ACCORDINGLY.

LOTS OF CHANGES AREN'T VERY GOOD FOR THE USERS, FOR THE SYSTEM OVERALL.

MS. NEWTON ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD, PLEASE? THANK YOU, I WOULD JUST ADD THAT IT'S ALSO MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO ADD IT WHEN THE NEW ROUTES COME INTO PLAY.

IF WE TRIED TO IMPLEMENT THIS RIGHT NOW, THERE WOULD DEFINITELY BE AN INCREASE IN COST AS WE'VE GOT THAT EXTRA HOUR A DAY PLUS AN EXTRA TWO MONTHS A YEAR OF SERVICE.

WE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE REDESIGNING THE SCHEDULES AND THIS INDIVIDUAL STOP SCHEDULES TWICE INSTEAD OF ONCE, SO THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME ECONOMIES OF SCALE THAT COME IN IF WE IMPLEMENT THIS WITH THE REST OF THE CHANGES THAT WE PLAN TO DO.

THANK YOU. OK, THANKS.

YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME, TOO.

SO IN LOOKING AT THE PROPOSED TIMES, I WAS A BIT CONFUSED BY THE PART THAT SAYS NUMBER OF TRIPS PER DAY.

IT SAYS FOR ONE WAITRESS PER DAY, THERE'S GOING TO BE A TRIP TO DOWNTOWN.

IT'S 7:22 A.M.

OR 4:17 PM AND THEN THE TRIP TIMES FROM DOWNTOWN ARE GOING TO BE 7:00 TO 14 A.M.

3:51 P.M..

AND I WAS JUST KIND OF THINKING, I GUESS THE 7:22 A.M.

IT'S PRETTY EARLY. YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO DOWNTOWN A LITTLE BIT BEFORE EIGHT O'CLOCK.

IT'S NOT A HUGE DEAL, BUT IT MAY NOT WORK FOR SOME PEOPLE.

BUT LOOKING AT THAT 3:51 P.M., IT'S JUST KIND OF WONDERING, WELL, MOST PEOPLE'S WORKDAY ENDS AROUND 5:00, IF NOT A BIT LATER.

SOME PEOPLE DO END EARLIER, SO IT'S JUST KIND OF I WONDER IF JUST THAT TIMING IS GOING TO BE A BIT OF AN INCONVENIENCE FOR PEOPLE.

IT MAY MAKE THE ROUTE, NOT WORK FOR THEM I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING ABOUT THAT TIMING.

OR MAYBE I'M READING THAT WRONG.

A BIT MORE INFORMATION WOULD BE HELPFUL.

MS. BASSI-KELLETT MS. NEWTON. THANK YOU.

SO THE TIMES ARE COORDINATED TO COINCIDE WITH OUR CURRENT EXPRESS ROUTES, WHICH ARE ESSENTIALLY TIED TO THE HIGH SCHOOL DAY, WHICH IS WHY THAT AFTERNOON TIME IS IS SO EARLY.

IT WAS STILL FELT THAT WE WOULD ACHIEVE THE RIDERSHIP THAT OR AT LEAST THE HIGHEST AMOUNT OF RIDERSHIP USING THESE TIMES AGAIN, DURING OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'D BE REQUESTING COMMENTS ON TO FIND OUT WHETHER.

PEOPLE WOULD WANT A LATER ROUTE THAT COMES FROM THE DOWNTOWN.

THE ONLY CONCERN IF WE DO HAVE A LATER ROUTE THAT COMES FROM DOWNTOWN IS THAT AGAIN, IT ADDS TO THOSE HOURS. SO IT DEFINITELY ADDS TO THE OVERALL COST OF THE SERVICE AS WELL.

FAIR ENOUGH, THANKS, I ACTUALLY HADN'T THOUGHT OF THE SCHOOLKIDS AND THE FACT THAT THEY ACTUALLY PROBABLY WOULD BE THE MOST LIKELY USERS OF THE SYSTEM SO THAT THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LESS OF A CHANCE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE KIND OF WORK DAY COMMUTERS COMING FROM KAM LAKE INTO THE DOWNTOWN.

AND THAT KIND OF JUST LEADS TO MY LAST POINT.

I'M KIND OF WONDERING IT'S.

I'M ON I'M A BIT ON THE WAY.

HOW DO I WORD THIS? I'M KIND OF WONDERING WHETHER THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DEMAND FROM KAM LAKE, AND I DO WANT TO BE CLEAR IN MENTIONING THAT THAT I DON'T NECESSARILY FEEL LIKE DEMAND IS THE ONLY REASON WE SHOULD PROVIDE TRANSIT TO AN AREA OF THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK TRANSIT IS JUST SOMETHING.

IT'S A PUBLIC SERVICE THAT THE CITY I THINK IS OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE.

AND I THINK THAT THE CITY IS OBLIGATED TO DO THAT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S PAYING FOR ITSELF. I MEAN, NO TRANSIT SYSTEM IN THE COUNTRY PAYS FOR ITSELF.

ALL OF THEM ARE HEAVILY SUBSIDIZED BY MUNICIPALITIES, AND I THINK THIS IS GOOD PRACTICE.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE PEOPLE USING OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM.

AND FOR THAT REASON, I'M IN FAVOR OF REDUCING THE FARE A BIT TO MAKE IT MORE CONVENIENT FOR OPPORTUNITY. HOP ON THE BUS.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. BUT I GUESS I DO WONDER, LIKE, ARE WE CONSIDERING DOING THIS MAYBE AS AN INTERIM, JUST TO TRY IT OUT AND SEE IF THERE IS DEMAND? I I GUESS WHAT I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT IS WE PUT THIS OPTION IN PLACE AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CHICKEN AND EGG THING BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GET USED TO IT AND START USING IT.

AND IF THEY DO GET USED TO IT AND START USING IT, THAT'S GREAT.

BUT MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT WE'D SEE EMPTY BUSSES RUNNING FREQUENTLY.

AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THIS IS MY CONCERN ABOUT ALL OF OUR TRANSIT.

I MEAN, I SEE EMPTY BUSSES GO BY MY HOUSE ON THE HOUR EVERY DAY.

I MEAN, THE BUS IS ALMOST ALWAYS COMPLETELY EMPTY, EXCEPT FOR A COUPLE OF TIMES.

AND SO OUR TRANSIT IS PRETTY, PRETTY, PRETTY UNDERUTILIZED IN THIS COMMUNITY.

AND SO ANYWAYS, IT'S A BIT OF A LONG QUESTION, BUT I'M JUST SORT OF WONDERING HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE DEMAND FOR THIS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S GOING TO FIT THE NEEDS OF USERS IN KAM LAKE IF TRANSIT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT AND DESIRE.

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I'M JUST WONDERING HOW WE'RE GOING TO HOW WE WOULD NORMALLY GO ABOUT NAVIGATING, DETERMINING IF THERE'S ENOUGH DEMAND TO RUN A SERVICE.

MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR, AND THANKS VERY MUCH FOR THE THOUGHTFUL QUESTION, COUNCILLOR MORSE.

SO FIRST OF ALL, WE WERE BEING RESPONSIVE TO A MOTION OF COUNCIL TO ENSURE THAT THIS WAS ADDED IN WHAT DOES ACKNOWLEDGE, AND WE ARE CERTAINLY VERY AWARE THAT KAM LAKE AND THE GRACE LAKE AREA ARE LOWER DENSITY AREAS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO THE POTENTIAL FOR RIDERSHIP. SO I WILL ASK MS. NEWTON TO SPEAK TO THAT IN A MOMENT, BUT I WILL PUT ONE MORE COMMENT FORWARD ON THAT.

WE KNOW THAT PUBLIC TRANSIT IS ONE OF THE GREAT WAYS THAT MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS CANADA AND FRANKLY AROUND THE WORLD CAN REALLY ASPIRE TOWARDS OUR CLIMATE CHANGE GOALS, HOW WE MITIGATE AND HOW WE ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE, HOW WE REDUCE OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT AND MITIGATE OUR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.

AND SO WE GET IT LIKE THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO.

IT ALSO TIES INTO MANY OTHER FACTORS.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE ZONING BYLAW THAT IS PROPOSED, WE ARE LOOKING AT ADJUSTMENTS TO PARKING IN THE DOWNTOWN AND THAT IN SOME WAYS COULD MAKE THE TRANSIT SYSTEM A LOT MORE ATTRACTIVE TO CERTAIN PEOPLE.

IF THERE WAS LESS OPPORTUNITY FOR PARKING LOTS THAT ARE IN THE DOWNTOWN RIGHT NOW, IT MIGHT CHANGE PEOPLE'S ATTITUDES.

JUST LIKE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION ALL WINTER LONG COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE ALSO DO TO COMPLEMENT THAT. SO THERE ARE MANY PIECES OF THIS.

THIS IS ONE COMPONENT OF MANY PIECES.

WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THIS, OF COURSE THE [INAUDIBLE] MEETING COMING UP ON SEPTEMBER 29TH, WHEN WE TALK AT 29, WHEN WE TALK MORE ABOUT OUR OVERALL, THE ACTIONS WE TAKE OVERALL AND HOW THEY COMPLEMENT EACH OTHER.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, IN TERMS OF RESPONDING TO IS KAM LAKE GOING TO BE ON OUR ROOTING FOREVER. I WILL ASK MS. NEWTON TO RESPOND TO THAT BECAUSE WE'RE VERY AWARE THAT THIS COULD BE A ROUTE THAT MAY NOT HAVE AS MUCH TRAFFIC AS SOME OTHER ROUTES THAT WE HAVE.

THANK YOU. OVER TO YOU, WENDY.

THANK YOU. SO THE INTENT RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE WOULD PUT THIS ROUTE INTO PLACE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN IN PLACE, HOWEVER, BECAUSE IT'S BEING ADDED ON TO AN EXPRESS ROUTE, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE FAIRLY EASY TO DISCONTINUE USE WITHOUT A MAJOR IMPACT ON THE SYSTEM SHOULD THAT CHOICE NEED TO BE MADE.

WHEN WE DECIDED TO MOVE TRANSIT INTO THE NIVEN AREA, WE HAD A STUDY DONE TO DETERMINE WHAT THE RIDERSHIP FROM THAT AREA WAS EXPECTED TO BE BEFORE WE RECOMMENDED MOVING TRANSIT INTO THAT AREA WITH KAM LAKE, AS MS. BASSI-KELLETT NOTED.

THIS IS A DIRECT REQUEST OF COUNCIL FOR US TO LOOK AT HOW WE COULD PROVIDE TRANSIT TO KAM LAKE, SO THAT'S WHAT THIS OPTION PROVIDES.

THANK YOU. OKAY, THANKS.

I THINK THIS WILL BE MY FINAL QUESTION, THIS IS JUST A FOLLOW UP, BUT IS ADDING KAM LAKE TO THIS EXPRESS ROUTE, GOING TO AFFECT THE EXPRESS ROUTE ITSELF IN THE SENSE OF IS IT GOING TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF SERVICE THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO RECEIVE THROUGH THE MAIN EXPRESS ROUTE? OR IS IT SIMPLY JUST GOING TO BE AN ADD ON? MS. BASSI-KELLETT MS. NEWTON. THANK YOU.

IT'S EXPECTED TO JUST BE AN ADD ON, SO IT WON'T AFFECT THOSE EXPRESS ROUTES AT ALL.

OK, THANKS. YEAH, I'M.

I'M TENTATIVELY IN FAVOR OF EXPLORING THIS, I MEAN, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD STRIVE TO HAVE ANY ASPECT OF OUR COMMUNITY AVAILABLE FOR THIS SERVICE, AVAILABLE FOR ANY RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY, I GUESS.

I JUST DO WONDER WHETHER IT'S GOING TO WORK FOR RESIDENTS OF KAM LAKE.

I'M CURIOUS TO HEAR FROM RESIDENTS OF KAM LAKE ABOUT THAT.

IF SOMEONE IS REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS AND SAYS, HEY, I'M GOING TO RIDE THE BUS EVERY DAY IF IT'S AVAILABLE.

PLEASE REACH OUT. I DO WANT TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I IT'S JUST I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF THIS SERVICE IS GOING TO WORK FOR KAM LAKE RESIDENTS.

SO IF THEY THINK IT IS GOING TO WORK, IF IT IS SOMETHING, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO PUT THEIR KIDS ON THE SCHOOL BUS AT GRACE LAKE OR WHATEVER, OR IN THE VARIOUS PLACES WHERE THERE ARE PEOPLE IN KAM LAKE.

I THINK THIS IS REALLY WORTH EXPLORING, BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE USED, THAT'S A BIT OF A DIFFERENT STORY.

BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH TRYING IT AND SEEING IF IT WORKS, SEEING IF PEOPLE WANT TO USE IT, IF IT BECOMES A POPULAR SERVICE, THAT'S EXCELLENT.

SO FOR ME, I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US KIND OF GIVE IT A SHOT AND MAYBE DELIVER IT AS A AS A AS A PILOT PROJECT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEMAND IS THERE AND THEN KIND OF ENTRENCH THE SERVICE.

ONCE WE KNOW THAT THERE'S DEMAND, THAT'S KIND OF MY THOUGHT ON IT.

BUT YEAH, I GUESS OVERALL JUST TENTATIVE SUPPORT.

I THINK I THINK IT IS A GENERAL GOOD TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF SERVICE TO ANY

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SO I AM SUPPORTIVE.

THANKS. THANK YOU.

WE'LL CIRCLE BACK TO COUNCILLOR PAYNE, LET'S SEE IF YOUR MICS WORKING.

NO. DO YOU WANT ME TO ASK YOUR QUESTION? THE ONE IN THE COMMENTS? OK? HAVE WE CONSIDERED ADDING AN AIRPORT ROUTE? MS. BASSI-KELLETT IF WE CAN GET SOME INFORMATION ON THAT ONE? ABSOLUTELY. I WILL HAND THIS OVER TO MS. NEWTON. BUT REALLY, THE DILEMMA FOR US IS THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE FOR US.

WE'RE NOT A COMMUNITY THAT IS ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY PEOPLE WHO ARE HANDY [INAUDIBLE] CAN WORK AND WE COULD HAVE THAT [INAUDIBLE] BACK AND FORTH TO THE AIRPORT REGULARLY.

WE'RE ALSO NOT VANCOUVER WITH A CANADA LINE, WHICH IS ENABLING SO MUCH RIDERSHIP AND SO MUCH FREQUENCY OF SERVICE THAT IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR RIDERS.

WE'RE SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN.

AND SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHEN THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE HAS BEEN OFFERED IN THE PAST, THERE HASN'T BEEN GREAT UPTAKE BECAUSE TO TRY TO TARGET WHEN WE THINK FLIGHTS ARE COMING IN AND GOING OUT AND WHERE AND WHEN THOSE ROUTES WOULD MOST BE TRAVELED, CHALLENGES WITH DOING SO, I WILL TURN THINGS OVER TO MS. NEWTON AND WE KNOW THAT THERE HAS NOT BEEN GREAT UPTAKE FOR THAT IN THE PAST.

IT'S JUST BASED ON THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE.

THANK YOU. SO, YEAH, AS MS. BASSI-KELLETT MENTIONED, IT IS HARD TO PLAN A ROUTE AROUND THE AIRPORT.

IT IS ONE OF THE LONG TERM ITEMS FOR SERVICE TO KAM LAKE, ESSENTIALLY PROVIDING A SINGLE ROUTE THAT WOULD SERVICE BOTH THE AIRPORT AND KAME LAKE.

BUT WHEN WE DID HAVE A ROUTE IN THE PAST, IT WAS DEFINITELY UNDERUTILIZED AND IN MOST CASES, NO ONE WAS USING IT AT ALL.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS IN PLACE WAS REMOVED, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS STILL UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR IMPLEMENTATION IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND AS COUNCILLOR PAYNE NOTES, LOOKING FOR TRANSIT, NOT JUST FOR FLIGHTS, BUT ALSO EMPLOYEES NEEDING TO GET TO WORK.

UP NEXT I HAVE COUNCILLOR KONGE.

THANKS. SO I READ THE.

THE STUFF WAS SENT OUT TO US.

I HEAR ADMINISTRATION SAYING.

BUT FOR ME, I ACTUALLY THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS WHOLE THING WRONG.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT GETTING PEOPLE FROM KAM LAKE TO THE DOWNTOWN FOR WORK AND SCHOOL. BUT I THINK THE PEOPLE IN KAM LAKE WHO LIVE IN KAM LAKE AND WHO ARE RUNNING BUSINESSES IN KAM LAKE, WE'RE NOT TOO WORRIED ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE FROM KAM LAKE TO DOWNTOWN. WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING TO OUR JOBS WHO.

YOU KNOW, DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR OWN PERSONAL VEHICLES AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

AND. YOU KNOW, SO AND THAT CHANGES HOW WE DO IT COMPLETELY, IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE MOST JOBS IN KAM LAKE STARTED EITHER SEVEN O'CLOCK OR EIGHT O'CLOCK, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD NEED A BUS THERE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF FINISH THEIR ROUTE AT SEVEN O'CLOCK THROUGH KAM LAKE OR FINISH THE ROUTE THROUGH KAM LAKE BEFORE EIGHT O'CLOCK.

AND THEN THE SAME THING. THE END OF THE DAY IS FIVE O'CLOCK, SO WE NEED SOMETHING THAT LOOPS THROUGH THERE AND PICKS EVERYBODY UP AND TAKES THEM BACK.

YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM FROM THE BUSINESSES IN KAM LAKE.

IF THERE'S A BUS ROUTE, IT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WITH GETTING THERE.

THEIR SPOUSES OR THEIR KIDS TO DOWNTOWN, THEY'VE GOT THAT SORTED OUT.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT HELP GETTING EMPLOYEES TO WORK.

SO. UM, UNLESS THAT'S DEALT WITH, I AM GOING TO HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT TIME SUPPORTING THIS, SO I DON'T REALLY NEED TO SAY ANY MORE THAN THAT.

EVERYBODY KNOWS MY POSITION ON IT.

AND YOU KNOW, IF WE ARE GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT SOMEHOW PERFECT, LET ME KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THANK YOU.

NEXT TIME, COUNCILLOR SMITH.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I HAVE TO AGREE WITH NIELS ON THIS, IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT MANY BUSINESSES OUT THERE AND THEY'RE SEEKING TO GET EMPLOYEES, THEY'RE SEEKING TO GET CONSUMERS OUT THERE.

YEAH, AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A BUS ROUTE OUT THERE, HOWEVER.

YEAH, IT HAS TO.

IT HAS TO WORK FOR, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IMPLEMENTED FOR.

YEAH, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT LIKE THE BYLAW, BUT THE ZONING BYLAW THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO EXPAND ON.

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SO EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE BUS ROUTES OUT THERE BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE ACCESS REALLY HONING IN ON MY KEVIN COSTNER HERE.

IF IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME, IT'LL BE USED.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO PUT IN PLACE FOR WHATEVER IT'S.

WE'RE HOPING TO EXPAND ON THE CITY.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE TRANSPORTATION THAT'S ACCESSIBLE FOR EVERYBODY. AND LOOKING AT THAT.

SO I LIKE THE IDEA OF A BUS ROUTE OUT THERE.

YEAH, I'M I'M ON THE FENCE ON THIS ONE, BUT I THINK IT'S GOOD EFFORT AND, YOU KNOW, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF, YOU KNOW, 2018, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT DURING ELECTION TIME WAS HAVING A BUS ROUTE.

PEOPLE WERE VERY ADAMANT ABOUT THAT.

SO IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT IT'S COME FORWARD.

THAT ADMIN HAS DONE WORK ON THIS.

LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY ON ON HOW THEY FEEL.

THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR MORGAN.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. NO, I THOUGHT NIELS SAID A GREAT POINT WITH REMINDING US THAT THERE MIGHT BE SIGNIFICANT.

AND TRAFFIC OR PEOPLE WANTING TO GO TO KAM LAKE TO WORK AND THEN BACK HOME AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND SO I WAS ALSO THINKING ABOUT THAT AND LOOKING AT THE REPORT.

UM, LIKE I THINK KAM LIKE, IS ONE OF THE MORE UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THAT WE MIGHT HAVE A DECENT AMOUNT OF DEMAND GOING BACK AND FORTH.

BOTH SAY SCHOOL KIDS OR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS GOING TO.

UH, THE DOWNTOWN LIKE TO AND FROM, BUT ALSO WORKERS GOING TO KAM LAKE, SO IT LOOKS TO ME, MAYBE ADMIN CAN CLARIFY THAT IN THE REPORT.

IT'S SAYING THAT IT WOULD PICK PEOPLE UP FROM DOWNTOWN AREA AROUND 7:15 AND GET THEM TO KAM LAKE AROUND 7:22, SO SAY SOMETIME JUST BEFORE 7:30 AND THEN IT WOULD TAKE WORKERS BACK IN THAT DIRECTION AROUND 4:15, 4:17 P.M.

AND I WONDER IF THEN CAN CLARIFY.

TO WHAT EXTENT THEY'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT GOING BOTH DIRECTIONS AND IF NIELS STACIE, ANYONE HAS ANY THOUGHTS ON WHETHER THOSE ARE REASONABLE TIMES TO THINK WORKERS MIGHT BE ABLE TO. USE THAT.

MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR, AND THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTIONS AND THE COMMENTS ON THIS, BECAUSE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, EVERY COMMENT THAT'S RAISED HAS BEEN AROUND. ARE WE MEETING THE NEED THAT'S OUT THERE? AND I REALLY RESPECT AND APPRECIATE THAT THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL MEMBERS COME FROM.

I WOULD CAUTION TO SAY, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT NEEDS, AND IF WE WERE TRYING TO REALLY ENCOMPASS EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN, ALL I CAN SAY IS, I GUESS ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE WITH UNLIMITED RESOURCES.

AND SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO IS FIND THAT ABILITY TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE TO KAM LAKE. WE WANT IT TO BE SERVICE THAT IS USEFUL TO PEOPLE THAT WILL BE USING PUBLIC TRANSIT.

WE WANT IT TO BE RELEVANT FOR THEM.

WE'RE TRYING TO DO THIS AS WELL WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF MAKING THIS AS EFFICIENT AND FISCALLY SUSTAINABLE AS POSSIBLE.

MS. NEWTON, ANYTHING THAT YOU LIKE TO ADD, YOU ARE EXPERT ON THIS.

THANK YOU, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY AND CONFIRM WITH SHAUNA, THOSE THOSE ARE THE TIMES, SO IT IS EXPECTED THAT THERE WOULD BE THE MORNING EXPRESS ROUTE WOULD ESSENTIALLY START DOWNTOWN AT 7:15 AND END UP IN KAM LAKE AROUND 7:22 AND THEN THE AFTERNOON IT WOULD TAKE PEOPLE FROM DOWNTOWN FIRST AND THEN PICK UP PEOPLE IN KAM LAKE AND BRING THEM BACK TO DOWNTOWN AROUND THAT 4:17 TIME.

SO WE WE WERE LOOKING AT BOTH BRINGING WORKERS TO KAM LAKE AND TAKING PEOPLE FROM KAM LAKE, BOTH IN THE MORNING AND THE AFTERNOON.

THANKS. OK.

I MEAN, DEFINITELY, I THINK SOME PUBLIC CONSULTATION ON THIS COULD HELP IN TERMS OF CONFIRMING TO WHAT EXTENT THOSE TIMES MIGHT.

WORK FOR PEOPLE OR.

OR MAYBE YOU CAN CLARIFY, TOO, I KNOW THAT THE CONSULTANTS, AS THEY WERE PREPARING THESE IDEAS IN THIS REPORT, YOU KNOW, DID TEST RUNS AROUND TO SEE HOW MANY MINUTES WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE IN THAT.

TO WHAT EXTENT WAS THERE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT INPUT INTO THIS REPORT IN TERMS OF CONFIRMING

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PEOPLE THAT MIGHT USE THOSE ROUTES.

MS. BASSI-KELLETT. MS. NEWTON. THANK YOU.

I BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PORTION CAME WITH THE REVIEW ITSELF, WITH THAT MAIN REPORT THAT WAS DONE.

SO THERE WASN'T SPECIFIC ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK THAT CAME ON THESE PROPOSED ROUTES.

THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THE FIRST TIME THAT THIS IS GOING OUT BECAUSE WE WERE TASKED WITH BRINGING SOMETHING BACK TO COUNCIL.

WE WEREN'T TASKED WITH GOING OUT TO THE PUBLIC TO GET THEIR OPINION ON IT.

THAT IS DEFINITELY A STEP BEFORE ANY ROUTE WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED.

BUT RIGHT NOW, THIS THIS HAS NOT GONE OUT TO THE FOLKS IN KAM LAKE YET.

THANK YOU. OK, WELL, ON THAT.

I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTH PROCEEDING IN THE HOPES THAT IT COULD MEET THOSE NEEDS THAT IT'S INTENDED TO MEET AND CERTAINLY DURING THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PORTION BEFORE IMPLEMENTATION, WE MIGHT GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

HOPEFULLY WE WOULD. MY NEXT QUESTION WAS JUST TO.

CONFIRM, BECAUSE THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN EXPRESS ROUTE.

IT LOOKS, THOUGH, THAT YOU KNOW THERE'S A LOOP THROUGH THE RANGE LIKE NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND DOES THAT MEAN THAT? ANYONE THAT'S TRYING TO GO FROM THAT RANGE, LIKE LUKE TO DOWNTOWN WOULD HAVE TO WAIT AND SIT THROUGH THE LOOP AROUND KAM LAKE BEFORE THEY WOULD GET TO DOWNTOWN.

I'M JUST WONDERING.

HOW THIS WOULD AFFECT THE EFFICIENCY OF THE EXPRESS ROUTE IN TERMS OF GETTING OTHER PEOPLE TO DOWNTOWN AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE, MAYBE YOU CAN CLARIFY THAT.

MS. BASSI-KELLETT MS. NEWTON. THANK YOU SO FOR THE MORNING EXPRESS.

IT'S EXPECTED THAT THE ROUTE WOULD PICK UP IN DOWNTOWN, GO OUT TO KAM LAKE AND THEN GO THROUGH THE RANGE LAKE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE WOULD DETERMINE WHAT POINTS ALONG THE ROUTE ARE BEST FOR ANYONE WHO'S BEING PICKED UP FROM KAM LAKE TO SORT OF JOIN THAT ROUTE ONE OR THE ROUTE TWO BUS SO THAT THEY DIDN'T NEED TO NECESSARILY RIDE ALL THE WAY THROUGH THAT FRAME LAKE AREA.

BUT THE INTENT WAS THAT THE PICKUP FROM DOWNTOWN AND THE TAKE OUT TO KAM LAKE AND THE ROUTE AROUND KAM LAKE WOULD ALL BE DONE BEFORE THE FIRST EXPRESS STOP TIME IN RANGE LAKE.

SO IT'S STILL EXPECTED THAT THE THE EXPRESS ROUTES RUNNING THROUGH THE THE FRAME LAKE AREA USING RANGE LAKE ROAD AND FINLAYSON THAT THE TIMINGS ON THOSE WOULD NOT BE AFFECTED BY THE KAM LAKE ROUTE.

SO AND THE SAME THING IN THE AFTERNOON.

EXCUSE ME, THEY WOULD RUN THROUGH THE FINLAYSON AREA AND THEN GO UP TO KAM LAKE AFTERWARDS. SO KAM LAKE IS IS JUST ADDED TO THE END OR THE BEGINNING OF THE ROUTE SO THAT WE DON'T AFFECT THE TIMINGS ON THOSE EXISTING ROUTES.

OK, THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT.

I NOW UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER.

OK. AND SO MY LAST QUESTION IS MORE GENERAL, SO.

COUNCIL'S MOTION, THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

SORRY, I'M JUST BRINGING IT UP HERE.

WAS THE ADMINISTRATION BE TO BRING FORWARD AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN FOR THE TRANSIT SERVICE OPTIONS THREE AND FIVE AND THEN ALSO TO PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING SERVICE TO KAM LAKE? SO IS THIS MEANT TO BE A PRESENTATION ON THE OVERALL IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AS WELL? OR WILL WE BE SEEING A SEPARATE? IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

PRESENTED TO COUNCIL FOR ALL OF THE.

THE OVERHAULS THAT WE'RE HOPING TO MAKE TO TRANSIT.

MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR, AND THANKS, COUNCILLOR MORGAN, FOR THE QUESTION. I WILL ASK MS. NEWTON AND SHE'LL RESPOND TO OUR NEXT STEPS, BUT WE KNOW THAT ONCE WE START TO PUT THINGS IN MOTION IN TIME FOR, I BELIEVE, SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE CONTAINED IN BUDGET 22 AND 23, IF I'M CORRECT, THEN YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GOING TO SHUT UP AND LET THE EXPERTS OVER TO MS. NEWTON. THANK YOU.

SO THIS PRESENTATION WAS TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON BOTH ITEMS, ESSENTIALLY TO GIVE YOU WHAT THE KAM LAKE OPTIONS ARE AND WHAT OUR STEPS ARE THAT WE OR THE IMPLEMENTATION TIMELINE FOR THAT OPTIONS NUMBER THREE AND FIVE.

SO THAT'S WHAT WAS HERE.

WE HAVE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION BUDGET ITEMS, AS MS. BASSI-KELLETT WAS MENTIONING FOR 2022 AND 2023.

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SO THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS STILL GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES, BUT THIS IS OUR GENERAL IMPLEMENTATION TIMELINE AND HOW WE EXPECT TO GET THIS IMPLEMENTED FOR JULY OF 2023.

OK. SO I GUESS WHAT WHAT I WAS WONDERING ABOUT AND HOPING.

AND NOT SORT OF BEING ABLE TO SEE ANY FINER GRAINED DETAIL IN TERMS OF THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN FOR OTHER ASPECTS BESIDES THE KAM LAKE ROUTE.

LIKE, I THINK ONE PRIORITY THAT WE'D IDENTIFIED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN WE SAW THE PRESENTATION WAS TO GET THOSE EXPRESS ROUTES GOING IN OTHER PARTS OF TOWN AS WELL, SO THAT WE MIGHT HOPEFULLY GET AN UPTAKE IN RIDERSHIP AND MAKE, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ROUTE FROM OLD TOWN TO DOWNTOWN MORE EFFICIENT AND MORE SORT OF REALISTIC FOR PEOPLE.

YOU KNOW, MAKE IT FASTER THAN WALKING OR BIKING AND.

WHAT I WAS WONDERING WAS THE POTENTIAL FOR PHASING IN SOME OF THOSE OTHER CHANGES THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE.

BEFORE 2023.

OR WHAT IS THE RATIONALE FOR WAITING FOR EVERYTHING SO THAT. LIKE, NOTHING CHANGES BEFORE 2023.

I UNDERSTAND THAT CREATING A WHOLE NEW ROUTE AROUND KAM LAKE WOULD BE MORE EFFICIENTLY AND MORE COST EFFECTIVELY.

INTRODUCED AS WE.

AND INTRODUCE ALL THE THE OTHER CHANGES YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, BUT IN TERMS OF, SAY, AN EXPRESS ROUTE IN OTHER PARTS OF TOWN, IS IT POSSIBLE TO PHASE THAT IN SOONER? MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I WILL ASK MS. NEWTON TO RESPOND TO THIS, I'M NOT RECALLING EXPRESS ROUTES ELSEWHERE, BUT WENDY IS OUR EXPERT. THANK YOU.

SO WITH REGARDS TO EXPRESSIONS IN OTHER AREAS, THAT'S NOT HOW THOSE TIMING ISSUES ARE BEING ADDRESSED. ESSENTIALLY, THE NEW ROUTES WILL PROVIDE FASTER SERVICE DUE TO HOW THEY'RE ARRANGED.

SO ESSENTIALLY RIGHT NOW, IT MAY TAKE YOU 40 MINUTES TO GET FROM ONE ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER, AND WE'RE EXPECTING IT TO THE NEW ROUTE TO ONLY TAKE 20.

SO IT WAS IT WAS THE INTERTWINING OF THE NEW ROUTES THAT WAS GOING TO PROVIDE THE FASTER SERVICE, NOT THE USE OF EXPRESS TRANSIT.

THE REASON WE DON'T WANT TO USE EXPRESS TRANSIT IS THE COST FOR THOSE BECAUSE THEY GO UP FOR A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

THE COST FOR THE BUS AND THE HOURLY RATE IS ALMOST DOUBLE THAT OF A REGULAR TRANSIT BUS.

SO WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR REGULAR ROUTES ARE PROVIDING AS QUICK AS SERVICE AS WE CAN. SO THAT'S HOW THOSE TIMELINES ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED.

THE OTHER THING TO NOTE IS WE WILL BE IMPLEMENTING THE FEES.

THE CHANGES TO THE FARES ESSENTIALLY WILL BE IMPLEMENTED, HOPEFULLY SEVEN MONTHS BEFORE THE REST OF THE CHANGES ARE MADE BECAUSE WE WANT THOSE TO COINCIDE WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ELECTRONIC FARE BOXES.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE TWO ITEMS ARE TIED TOGETHER AND THAT'LL BE TIED TO WHEN WE ACTUALLY GET THE EQUIPMENT IN YELLOWKNIFE.

SO THAT'S EXPECTED TO HAPPEN BY DECEMBER OF 2022.

CHANGES ON YACHTS.

ONE THING THAT HAD BEEN MENTIONED, AND THAT'S WHAT THE OPTION FIVE WAS, WAS LOOKING AT COORDINATING SHOPPING TRIPS ON YACHTS.

UNFORTUNATELY, COVID HAS KIND OF STOPPED US PUTTING A LOT OF PEOPLE ON A YACHT SUPPOSEDLY USUALLY LIMIT ONE TO TWO PEOPLE ON THE YACHTS BUS SO THAT WE WERE HOPING TO IMPLEMENT THOSE SHOPPING TRIPS FAIRLY SOON.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, COVID IS KIND OF PUT A LITTLE SNAG IN THAT OPTION.

BUT IT WOULD BE EXPECTED THAT WE COULD IMPLEMENT THAT ITEM A LITTLE FASTER.

BUT GENERALLY, THE CHANGES TO THE FULL ROUTES AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF TRANSIT'S ACCOUNT LINK IS BEST DONE TOGETHER AND IT IS GOING TO TAKE US UNTIL JULY OF 2023 TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT DONE. OK, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S LOTS OF MOVING PARTS HERE, FIGURATIVELY AND LITERALLY.

AND. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ATTEMPTS TO IMPROVE LOTS OF DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE SYSTEM.

I HAVE TO ADMIT IT IS DISAPPOINTING TO ME THAT WE WON'T BE ABLE TO.

REALLY SEE ANY OF THE CHANGES BEFORE THE END OF OUR TERM WHEN IT WAS, YOU KNOW, PRIORITY

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SO I WAS AND WE DID GET STARTED FAIRLY SOON AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR TERM WITH THE TRANSIT REVIEW. SO IT IS DISAPPOINTING TO THINK WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE ANY CHANGES UNTIL.

FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AFTER WE STARTED THAT PROCESS, I GUESS FOUR YEARS.

BUT I DO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S LOTS ON THE GO.

AND THERE'S. BARRIERS AND SETBACKS WITH COVID AND OTHER THINGS, SO.

I WON'T PUSH TOO MUCH FURTHER ON THAT, BUT.

CERTAINLY, IF THERE IS ANY.

OPPORTUNITIES THAT CAN BE SEEN TO PHASE IN CERTAIN ASPECTS OF IMPROVEMENTS INDEPENDENT OF THE OTHERS, THEN I WOULD WELCOME THAT.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I HAVE.

MS. [INAUDIBLE] AGAIN, IT'S ALONG THE LINES OF USERS AND TIME.

SO, YEAH, THE EXPRESS BUS SEEMS TO ALIGN WITH THE SCHOOL HOURS VERSUS WORK HOURS BECAUSE KAM LAKES SHIFTS TEND TO BE SEVEN A.M.

AND EIGHT A.M. STARTS.

AND IN THE REPORT, IT IDENTIFIES RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING THAT THE POTENTIAL USERS ARE EMPLOYEES IN THE AREA, BUT THEN IT DOESN'T TAKE THEIR WORK HOURS INTO ACCOUNT WHEN IT PROPOSES THE BUS TIMES.

SO JUST WONDERING IF WE CAN GET AN UPDATE? ON THE FINANCIAL FIGURES, SO THAT THE SERVICE IS ALIGNED WITH WHAT THE USER NEEDS ARE AND YES, WE CAN TAKE HIGH SCHOOLERS INTO CONSIDERATION, BUT THE BIGGER DEMOGRAPHIC THERE IS EMPLOYEES. SO HOW CAN WE IF IT MEANS WE HAVE TO ADD TWO HOURS TO THE EXPRESS BUS ROUTE BY HAVING IT START AT 6:30 A.M.

VERSUS SEVEN A.M.

AND HAVING THAT EXPRESS BUS? YOU KNOW, I THINK SHIFT TIMES AND THAT 5:00 P.M.

AND 6:00 P.M. BECAUSE IF WE'RE BRINGING PEOPLE THERE AT 7:00 A.M.

AND 8:00 A.M., THEY DO NEED A RIDE HOME AT THE END.

SO, YEAH, JUST WONDERING IF WE CAN GET THE FINANCIAL COSTING TO MATCH THE POTENTIAL USERS. HOURS OF OPERATION MS. BASSI-KELLETT. THANKS VERY MUCH.

YOUR WORK, MADAM CHAIR, AND REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

IT'S ALWAYS A BALANCING ACT TO SEEK TO MEET THOSE NEEDS OF WHO WE KNOW IS USING PUBLIC TRANSIT. LOTS OF STUDENTS, WE SEE A PEAK ON THAT AND CERTAINLY WITH OUR EXPRESS ROUTES, WE'RE REALLY INTENDING THEM TO BE ABLE TO MEET PASSENGER LOAD AS OPPOSED TO GETTING EVERYONE THERE FASTER. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES, A LOT OF PIECES THAT NEED TO ALIGN ON THIS ONE.

I WILL ASK MS. NEWTON IF SHE'S GOT ANY THOUGHTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ESSENTIALLY. WHAT WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING, MADAM CHAIR, IS THE MEDIUM TERM INDEPENDENT SERVICE OPTION THAT PROVIDES A DEDICATED BUS FOR SERVICE TO KAM LAKE.

THE CONCERN WITH ADDING MORE TIME ONTO THAT EXPRESS ROUTE, AS I EXPLAINED, IS THOSE ROUTES COST DOUBLE WHAT THE NORMAL ROUTE IS.

SO IF WE DO WANT TO ADD TIME ON THAT, YOU'RE ALMOST BETTER TO IMPLEMENT THE MEDIUM TERM OPTION THAN YOU ARE TO IMPLEMENT THE SHORT TERM OPTION IF YOU WANT TO PROVIDE MORE TIME ON THOSE SERVICES.

SO IT'S.

IT WAS AN ALTERNATIVE IN OUR CONSIDERATIONS FOR SERVICE TO KAM LAKE WAS EITHER MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SHORT TERM, MEDIUM OR LONG TERM OPTIONS FOR SERVICE.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PROVIDE.

AND THERE IS A BREAKDOWN OF COSTING IN THE REPORT THAT PROVIDES SOME INFORMATION ON WHAT WE CAN EXPECT THAT TO COST US.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT.

I'LL HAVE TO REVIEW IT AS IT'S [INAUDIBLE]THE SHORT TERM, I THINK HAS SUCH A SMALL.

DEMOGRAPHIC THAT WE'D BE TRYING TO TARGET THAT I'M NOT SOLD THAT.

IT'S WORTH. THE PROCEEDING WITH BUT.

TO TO KEEP MY MIND OPEN AND AND LOOK AT THE SHORT TERM VERSUS MEDIUM TERM.

I WILL, YEAH, CONSIDER THAT BEFORE IT COMES BACK TO COUNCIL, BUT I DO THINK THE BIGGER DEMOGRAPHIC THAT WOULD BE USING THE BUS IS THE KAM LAKE EMPLOYEES AND THEIR SHIFT STARTS AT 7:00 A.M. AND 8:00 A.M.

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CURRENTLY, THERE'S MAYBE ONE OR TWO IN KAM LAKE AREA.

AND THEN NEXT YEAR THERE COULD BE ZERO.

SO YEAH, I'LL REVIEW THE REPORT IN MORE DETAIL BEFORE IT COMES TO COUNCIL, BUT APPRECIATES THE THE INFORMATION TODAY.

IS THERE ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? SEEING NONE.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THE UPDATES.

NEXT, WE HAVE.

A MEMORANDUM REGARDING WHETHER TO REPEAL AND REPLACE THE ELECTIONS BY‐LAW NO.

[6. A memorandum regarding whether to repeal and replace Elections By‐law No. 4705.]

TODAY, IT'S MY PLEASURE.

ON FEDERAL ELECTION DAY TO INTRODUCE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE CITY'S ELECTIONS BYLAW, SO AS COUNCILORS KNOW, THE CITY IS PREPARING FOR A REFERENDUM IN NOVEMBER WHERE WE WILL BE ASKING YELLOWKNIFER'S IF THEY APPROVE THE CITY BORROWING MONEY TO BUILD AN AQUATIC CENTER. AND SO PLANNING THE MECHANICS OF A REFERENDUM DURING A PANDEMIC AND IN THE CONTEXT OF A FOURTH WAVE AND ONGOING REALITY THAT WE'RE FACING, WE ARE REALLY BEING PUSHED TO CONSIDER THE SAFEST, MOST EFFECTIVE AND OF COURSE, WITHIN THE LEGAL PARAMETERS.

WE NEED TO FIND THE BEST OPTIONS FOR VOTING FOR OUR RESIDENTS COME NOVEMBER.

AND SO THE CHANGES TO THE ELECTIONS BY LAW ARE SUPPORTING DIRECTIONS THAT WE WANT TO GO FOR NOW AS WE PREPARE FOR THE REFERENDUM, BUT ALSO INTO THE FUTURE AS WELL.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE CONSIDERED THREE OPTIONS WHICH ARE WITHIN OUR LEGAL PARAMETERS RIGHT NOW. ONE OPTION THAT'S NOT WITHIN OUR LEGAL PARAMETERS THAT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT OR THINK ABOUT WAS ELECTRONIC VOTING.

THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE RIGHT NOW UNDER THE LOCAL AUTHORITIES ELECTIONS ACT.

BUT WHAT IS POSSIBLE IS THE STATUS QUO, WHERE PEOPLE COME TO POLLING STATIONS IN PERSON TO CAST THEIR VOTES OR THEY USE PROXIES IF THEY CAN'T MAKE IT IN PERSON.

THERE'S THE OPTION OF MAIL IN BALLOTS WHERE VOTERS RECEIVE BALLOTS IN THE MAIL AND CAN EITHER MAIL THEM BACK TO US OR DROP THEM OFF AT A SECURED CITY LOCATION OR A HYBRID WHERE PEOPLE HAVE THE OPTION OF OPTING IN TO A MAIL IN BALLOT OR COMING TO A POLLING STATION AND VOTING ON THE DAY OF THE REFERENDUM.

GIVEN OUR GOAL TO MAXIMIZE VOTER TURNOUT IN A PANDEMIC, ADMINISTRATION HAS OPTED TO GO WITH THE MAIL IN BALLOT.

THAT IS ONE THAT MEETS THE NEEDS.

IT IS THE MOST COST EFFICIENT.

IT IS THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE MOST COST EFFECTIVE GOING FORWARD.

WE WILL MAIL OUT BALLOTS.

WE WILL THEN HAVE THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO RETURN THEM THROUGH CANADA POST OR IF THEY, AS MANY OF US TEND TO BE MYSELF INCLUDED IN THIS WAKE UP THE DAY JOB AND GO, OH, SHOOT, THAT'S SITTING ON THE KITCHEN COUNTER, I FORGOT TO DROP IT IN THE MAIL.

THERE IS GOING TO BE AN OPTION FOR A DIRECT DROP OFF AT CITY HALL SHOULD PEOPLE WISH TO DO THAT. SO WE REALLY THINK THIS IS THE BEST PATH FORWARD, BUT IT DOES REQUIRE CHANGES TO OUR ELECTIONS BYLAW RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO USE TABULATORS.

WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE PROCESS IN PLACE THAT IS FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO ALLOW FOR MAIL IN. SO WE'RE PROPOSING THE CHANGES TO THE ELECTIONS BYLAW TODAY SO THAT IT CAN BE IN PLACE FOR THE REFERENDUM AND FUTURE ELECTIONS THAT WE HOLD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. AND A BIG THANKS TO YOURSELF AND STAFF FOR THINKING AHEAD TO ENSURE WE CAN GET MAXIMUM VOTER TURNOUT DURING A PANDEMIC.

IS IT APPEAR THAT ALL OF OUR COLLEAGUES HAVE DONE THAT? COUNCILLOR WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

JUST A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT SAID TABULATORS.

IS THERE LIKE A LIKE A.

I GUESS A JURISDICTION OR A GROUP THAT'S INVOLVED WITH SETTING STANDARDS FOR THE USE OF SUCH MACHINES AND TABULATING VOTES AS THE FEDERAL MANDATE A TERRITORIAL OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT THAT WE AS A MUNICIPALITY CAN CAN PICK A MACHINE AND KIND OF GO FROM THERE? MS. BASSI-KELLETT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCILLOR WILLIAMS, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION, AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO OUR EXPERT, CLERK DEBBIE GILLARD, WHO IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS. DEBBIE, THANKS OVER TO YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.

THERE ISN'T AN ORGANIZATION THAT DOES THAT EVERY JURISDICTION IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ON WHAT THEIR LEGISLATION ALLOWS YOU TO DO.

BUT THE COMPANY THAT WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH WILL TAILOR IT TO WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE AND WHAT OUR LEGISLATION STATES.

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I'LL ASK MS. GILLARD TO RESPOND TO THIS, BUT I THINK THAT THE INCREASING USE OF TECHNOLOGY IS A REALITY FOR US.

I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN ROOM FOR USER ERROR WHEN IT COMES TO HAVING POLLING CLERKS THAT ARE COUNTING VOTES MANUALLY.

SO IT IS A TRADE OFF.

BUT WE REALLY DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE AS PRECISE AND EFFICIENT AND ENSURING THE FAITH OF THE PUBLIC IN THE SYSTEM THAT WE CHOOSE.

MS. GILLARD. THANKS.

I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME TROUBLES WITH THE DEVICES THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY VOTE ON.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THESE ARE.

PEOPLE WOULD STILL BE MARKING THEIR OWN BALLOT AND THAT BALLOT WOULD BE GIVEN BACK TO AN ELECTION OFFICER WHO WOULD PUT IT INTO THE TABULATOR MACHINE SO THE VOTER WOULD STILL SEE ALL THAT GOING ON.

WE WOULD STILL ENSURE THAT THE BALLOT BOX IS EMPTY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE POLLS, SO WE PUT A LOT OF SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT OUR RESULTS ARE ACCURATE.

RIGHT, YEAH. LIKE I SAID, I JUST WANTED TO THROW THE FLAG JUST SO BECAUSE IT'S AGAIN, IT'LL BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS, THAT'S THE UNSPOKEN QUESTION ABOUT THIS, AND I'LL PROBABLY MAKE UP MOST OF THE NEWS ARTICLE THAT COMES AS A RESULT OF SUCH THINGS.

SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT WE'D AT LEAST GET THAT OUT IN THE OPEN, BUT I'M SURE WE'LL ALL MAKE GREAT DECISIONS, AND I'M SURE THESE MACHINES ARE TIGHT AS A DRUM, SO LET'S HOPE IT STAYS THAT WAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. AND THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

ITS MAXIMUM VOTER TURNOUT IN THE SAFEST WAY POSSIBLE, BUT ENSURING THE TRANSPARENCY AND RELIABILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY OF THE VOTING SYSTEM AS WELL.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR COMMENT FROM COUNCIL? SEEING NONE, WE WILL BRING THIS FORWARD TO OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH IS NEXT MONDAY WITH SEPTEMBER 27.

NEXT, WE HAVE A MEMORANDUM REGARDING WHETHER TO APPOINT A MEMBER TO SERVE ON THE MAYOR'S

[7. A memorandum regarding whether to appoint a member to serve on the Mayor’s Task Force on Economic Development.]

WITH THAT THAT COMES TO OUR LAST ITEM, WHICH IS [INAUDIBLE] CAN I GET A MOTION TO [INAUDIBLE] MOVE BY COUNCILLOR SMITH, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR SILVERIO, ANYBODY OPPOSED SEEING NONE, WE CAN LOG OFF THIS AND SEE MOMENTARILY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.