May 10, 2021 Governance & Priorities Committee

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>> I'LL CALL OUR GOVERNANCE AND PRIORITIES COMMITTEE MEETING FOR MONDAY,

[1. Opening Statement]

FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE CITY OF YELLOWKNIFE IS LOCATED IN CHIEF DRYGEESE TERRITORY.

FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL, IT'S BEEN A TRADITIONAL LAND OF THE YELLOWKNIVES DENE FIRST NATION, AND MORE RECENTLY THE HOMELAND OF THE NORTH SLAVE METIS.

WE RESPECT THE HISTORIES, LANGUAGES, AND CULTURES OF FIRST NATIONS METIS, INUIT, AND ALL FIRST PEOPLES OF CANADA, WHOSE PRESENCE CONTINUES TO ENRICH OUR VIBRANT COMMUNITY.

APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.

[2. Approval of the agenda.]

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.

NO, NOTHING ELSE TO ADD.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT, WE HAVE

[3. Disclosure of pecuniary interest and the general nature thereof.]

DOES ANY MEMBER HAVE A PECUNIARY INTEREST TODAY? COUNSELOR KONGE DID YOU WANT TO DECLARE FOR THE COVID FUNDING AGAIN?

>> YES. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

YES, FOR SURE I WOULD.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

DUE TO HIS SON LOOKING TO APPLY FOR A SUMMER STUDENT JOB.

SEEING NOTHING FURTHER, NEXT WE HAVE A MEMORANDUM REGARDING WHETHER TO ADOPT

[4. A memorandum regarding whether to adopt the 2021 Municipal Tax Levy and 2021 School Tax Levy by-laws.]

MS. BASSI KELLETT, IF YOU'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR, WITH PLEASURE.

COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW THAT EVERY YEAR COUNCIL SETS THE MUNICIPAL MILL RATES IN ORDER TO GENERATE PROPERTY TAX REVENUES THAT WE NEED TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS MUNICIPAL PROGRAMS AND SERVICES.

AT THE SAME TIME, THE SCHOOL BOARDS BOTH ASK US AS WELL TO ESTABLISH MILL RATES AT THEIR REQUEST AS THEY ESTABLISH BASED ON THEIR BUDGETS.

IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR, GPEC MEMBERS, FORGIVE ME, WILL RECALL THAT THE ADMINISTRATION PRESENTED INFORMATION OUTLINING THE CURRENT PROPORTIONAL TAX RATIO BETWEEN NON-RESIDENTIAL AND RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, WHICH IS 2.2721, AND THIS WAS, OF COURSE, IN RESPONSE TO A REQUEST FOR MORE INFORMATION FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS IN 2020.

COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION AT THAT TIME AND DECISION TO CONTINUE WITH THE TAX RATIO AS INFORM THE MILL RATES YOU SEE HERE TODAY.

THESE ALSO RESPOND TO THE PROJECTED TAX REVENUE NEEDS THAT ARE CONTAINED IN BUDGET 2021 AND THEY DO REFLECT THE 2.5 PERCENT TAX RATE THAT WAS AT [NOISE] THE INCREASE OF TAXES BY 2.5 PERCENT THAT COUNCIL APPROVED AS PART OF BUDGET 2021.

THIS IS TIMELY BECAUSE WE REQUIRE COUNCIL APPROVAL SO THAT ADMINISTRATION CAN CONFIRM AND ISSUE THE TAX BILLS BY THE END OF JUNE AS WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO IN LEGISLATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.

>> THANK YOU. OPENING IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? SEEING NONE, WE WILL BRING THIS FORWARD TO OUR COUNCIL MEETING ON MONDAY, MAY 24TH.

NEXT ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE A MEMORANDUM REGARDING WHETHER TO

[5. A memorandum regarding whether to enter into a five (5) year lease with HREIT Holdings 18 Corporation for Unit 78, Condominium Plan C2535 (Centre Square Mall, 5022-49th Street).]

MS. BASSI KELLETT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR, ABSOLUTELY.

TODAY, ADMINISTRATION IS SEEKING COUNCIL APPROVAL TO ENTER INTO A FIVE-YEAR LEASE, AND THIS, OF COURSE, REQUIRES AN ACQUISITION BYLAW, PURSUANT TO THE LAND ADMINISTRATION BYLAW.

ANY LEASE BEYOND THREE YEARS, OF COURSE, REQUIRES COUNCIL APPROVAL.

SINCE DECEMBER 2020, WHEN COUNCIL APPROVED ALLOCATING $125,000 FROM THE DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENT RESERVE IN ORDER TO COMPLEMENT AS REQUIRED, KEN NORRIS FUNDING OF $377,000 TOWARDS THE RE-ESTABLISHMENT OF THE VISITOR INFORMATION CENTER IN THE DOWNTOWN IN CENTRAL SQUARE MALL, ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN WORKING TO ADVANCE THIS PROJECT.

WE'RE VERY THRILLED ABOUT THIS.

WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY GOOD DEVELOPMENT IN THE DOWNTOWN.

WE RECEIVED CONFIRMATION OF KEN NORRIS FUNDING IN LATE MARCH AND SINCE THAT TIME, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] ON THE NEXT STEPS, INCLUDING DESIGN AND HOW THE REDESIGN AND THE WORK THAT WILL BE DONE BOTH IN THIS SPACE AS WELL AS AT THE DOORS TO THE CENTER SQUARE MALL ON 50TH STREET, AND OTHER THINGS THAT WILL MAKE THAT AREA ACCESSIBLE TO ALL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

WE'RE VERY PLEASED ABOUT THIS BUT WORK CANNOT BEGIN UNTIL OF COURSE, WE HAVE A SIGNED LEASE AGREEMENT.

THIS IS REQUIRED BEFORE ANY CONSTRUCTION OR REAL BUILDING DESIGN CAN HAPPEN INSIDE.

WE'RE VERY PLEASED ABOUT THIS DOWNTOWN LOCATION, AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE VERY DELIBERATE IN THIS.

BECAUSE WE DO SEE THAT THE OPPORTUNITY TO REJUVENATE DOWNTOWN AND WHAT

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WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO PRESENT THIS TODAY AND LOOK FORWARD TO ANY DISCUSSION FROM GPC MEMBERS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. OPENING IT UP TO COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNSELOR MORSE, COUNSELOR KONGE, THEN COUNSELOR WILLIAMS.

>> NO QUESTIONS REALLY.

JUST COMMENTS.

I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.

HAPPY TO SEE THE SLIGHTEST COMMITTING TO INVEST PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY IN SPACE TO THE CITY GET IT SET UP.

THIS LOOKS LIKE AN OVERALL POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT.

I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE IDEA OF HAVING A VISITOR CENTER.

WE COULD DO THIS SPACE SO YEAH, THANKS TO STAFF FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

BRINGING THIS TO FRUITION, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROPOSAL.

IT'S AN EXAMPLE TO THE CITY, PUTTING ITS MONEY WHERE ITS MOUTH IS ON DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION.

EXCITED TO SEE THIS GO FORWARD AND I THINK EVERYONE WILL BE EXCITED TO SEE A NEW VISITOR CENTER IN YELLOWKNIFE.

AGAIN, IT'S DEFINITELY ESSENTIAL AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WELCOMING VISITORS BACK AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU. COUNSELOR KONGE?

>> YEAH. I MEAN, SAME THING AS A COUNSELOR MORSE.

I THINK THIS IS PRETTY EXCITING FOR THE VISITOR CENTER.

I DON'T REMEMBER HOW LONG IT'S BEEN IN THE BOTTOM OF CITY HALL, BUT IT'S BEEN QUITE SOME TIME, I THINK THREE YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I THINK THAT THIS CERTAINLY, IF WE GET OUR TOURISM NUMBERS BACK UP TO WHERE THEY WERE, THAT'S GOING TO PUSH A LOT OF TOURISTS THROUGH THAT SPACE THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDERUTILIZED AND HOPEFULLY HELP IT BECOME A MORE ATTRACTIVE PLACE FOR ARTISTS.

I THINK YOU CAN HAVE AN ARTIST CO-OP THERE.

I THINK THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN THAT COULD BE PRETTY EXCITING AND JUST OPENING UP THE DOORS AGAIN WHERE THE CROSS OR WHERE THE OLD BEAM USED TO BE.

THE DOORS THAT HAVE BEEN BLOCKED OFF FOR QUITE A LONG TIME, HAVING THAT MORE ACCESSIBLE, I THINK WOULD BE A WONDERFUL THING.

I THINK IT'S A WIN-WIN, WIN-WIN.

I LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING TO THE NEXT STEPS.

>> THANK YOU, COUNSELOR WILLIAMS?

>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. JUST NOTICED IN THE MEMO THAT THERE WAS, IT SAYS FOR A FIVE-YEAR TERM AT COST RECOVERY RATE.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THE ADMINISTRATION COULD JUST ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT THAT COST RECOVERY RATE IS.

IS IT A GREAT DEAL THAT THE LEASER IS GIVING US? OR WHAT SOME OF THE DETAILS AROUND THAT MIGHT BE.

>> SURE, MS. BASSI-KELLETT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES. WE'VE BEEN REALLY PLEASED TO WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, IS THEY WANT TO ENCOURAGE MORE UPTAKE AND UTILIZATION OF THE SPACE.

THIS IS REALLY FOCUSING ON THEIR COST TO OPERATE.

I'LL ASK MS. THISTLE IF SHE'D LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. IT'S REALLY JUST THE DIRECT COST THAT THE LANDOWNER WILL INCUR JUST SO THEY DON'T OPERATE AT A LOSS BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE A PROFIT OFF THIS PHASE.

THE COST RECOVERY IS JUST RECOVERING THEIR DIRECT COST AND SO WE LOOK AT THAT IS A GREAT PARTNERSHIP.

[NOISE]

>> THAT IS MIGHTY KIND OF THEM.

THANK YOU. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU. SEEING NOTHING FURTHER, WE WILL BRING THIS FORWARD TO OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH IS OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AFTER TONIGHT, MONDAY, MAY 24TH.

I DON'T KNOW WHY I WANT TO SAY OCTOBER THERE SO 7:00 PM, MONDAY, MAY 24TH.

NEXT, WE HAVE A MEMORANDUM REGARDING

[6. A memorandum regarding Minutes of the Community Advisory Board on Homelessness meeting of April 22, 2021.]

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? SEEING NONE. NEXT, WE HAVE A DISCUSSION REGARDING

[7. A discussion regarding the 2021 COVID Safe Restart Funding.]

MISS STACY KALETTE I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL REMEMBER.

GPC MEMBERS WILL REMEMBER THAT AT LAST WEEK'S GPC.

ADMINISTRATION MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO THE ALLOCATION OF THE $780,000 IN COVID RESTART FUNDING THAT WE'RE RECEIVING.

WE APPRECIATED THE DISCUSSION GPC MEMBERS DISCUSSED, AND IN ADDITION TO REDUCING THE AMOUNT FOR STUDENTS, SERVICE EFFICIENCIES, AND ENHANCEMENTS FROM 175 TO 95.

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WE KNOW THAT THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON SOME OTHER THEMES AND IDEAS AS WELL.

WE BRING THIS TABLE OF ORIGINAL PROPOSED IDEAS FROM ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS RECOMMENDATIONS FROM GPC LAST WEEK THAT WE WILL PUT THAT NOW CAN INFORM THE DISCUSSION TODAY GOING FORWARD.

WE SEE THIS AMOUNT IS BEING USEFUL, SPREADING THE WEALTH AROUND AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IN AREAS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME PRESSURES AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO ANY FURTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT GPC MAY MAKE BEFORE THIS COMES FORWARD TO COUNCIL LATER ON TODAY AT SEVEN O'CLOCK. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

>> THANK YOU. I HAD A QUESTION.

DID ADMINISTRATION HAVE ANY OF LAST WEEK THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT EXPANDING WASH GERMS AT SOME OF THE PARKS.

HAS THE ADMINISTRATION HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT ANY FURTHER OR IS THAT STILL WORK IN PROGRESS?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.

WE'VE ACTUALLY SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME RESEARCHING WHAT GPC HAD ASKED FOR, RELATED TO THE COST OF HAVING A PORTA POTTY AVAILABLE IN EACH OF THE CLASS, A, ARCS FIELDS, SPORTS FIELDS, AND PLAYGROUNDS.

WE'VE DONE SOME ANALYSIS ON THAT FOR EVERY AREA OTHER THAN SOMBA K'E, RECOGNIZING OF COURSE THAT THERE IS A WASHROOM FACILITY ALREADY IN THAT SPACE.

BUT ALSO WHAT WE'VE NEEDED TO DO, OF COURSE, IS LOOK AT WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO TO FUND THAT IN A COVID COMPLIANT WAY.

MS. WOODWARD CAN PULL THOSE FIGURES UP, WILL BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE TO COUNSEL WHAT IT IS THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SUMMARIZE SO FAR.

BASE COSTS $444,000, AND THEN OF COURSE, THE ADDITIONAL COSTS WOULD BE SETUP FOUNDATION FOR EACH OF THE PORTA POTTY TO AVOID TIPPING OF AN IMPORTANT PARTIES, WHICH WE THINK MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF A RISK WITH SOME VANDALISM, BUT HOPEFULLY NOT.

STAFF TIME, THIS IS A PRETTY HIGH AMOUNTS.

THIS IS BASED ON CLEANING UP ONCE EVERY TWO HOURS IN ORDER TO BE CALLED WITH COMPLIANT, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD WE WOULD NEED TO DO.

INCIDENT RECOVERY IS A NICE WAY OF SAYING RESPONDING TO ANY VANDALISM THAT MAY COME UP, AND THEN OF COURSE, THE ACCESSIBILITY COSTS WHERE OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE IS ONE ACCESSIBLE PORTA POTTY IN TOWN, SO WE WOULD NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THAT ADDITIONAL COST WOULD BE FOR THAT PORTA POTTY AND IF OF COURSE, WHERE THAT WOULD BE STRATEGIC TO PUT THAT IF THAT WAS THE DESIRE OF COUNSEL.

OUR TOTAL COSTS ARE AS LAID OUT THERE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> SEE, I JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS TO GPC BEFORE BRINGING IT TO COUNSEL.

THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT PERHAPS WE SHOULD TAKE FROM THE PROPERTY ENHANCEMENT AND PUT IT TOWARDS PARKS AND WASHERS.

IF THAT IS THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL, THIS IS JUST SOME OF THE COST THAT ACTUALLY WOULD BE INCURRED, IF WE WENT THAT DIRECTION.

PERHAPS MISS WOODWARD, IF YOU'D BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THE LAST SLIDE.

WHAT'S COMING FORWARD TO COUNCIL TONIGHT IS THAT 230 RELIEF FOR BUSINESS 230 RELIEF FOR PROPERTY ENHANCEMENTS.

THE SOMBA K'E WASHROOM 65,000, COMMUNICATIONS 80,000, THE SUMMER STUDENTS, 95,000, AND THEN POLICY AND LEGISLATIVE WORK, 80,000.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? ANY COUNCIL MUFFIN DAYSTA?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR, AND THANK YOU ADMINISTRATION FOR BRINGING THESE MEMBERS FORWARD.

MY QUESTION IS, IF WE WERE TO PROPOSE A MOTION TO GO FOR THE WASHROOMS, LIKE WHAT DOES THE FULL $124,000 LIKE? WOULD THAT BE MORE COMING FROM THE BUSINESS RELIEF OR WOULD THAT BE PROPERTY ENHANCEMENT? LIKE WHICH ONE WOULD WE BE ADDING TO AND WHICH ONE WOULD WE BE TAKING FROM? THANK YOU.

>> INSTALL THE COST COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO USE BOTH OF THOSE.

WE'D HAVE TO REALLY FOR BUSINESS AND REALLY FOR PROPERTY.

SORRY. COUNCIL COULD CHOOSE TO CUT COMMUNICATIONS OR SUMMER STUDENTS OR POLICY AND LEGISLATIVE WORK, IT'S UP TO COUNCIL WITH WHAT THEY WOULD WANT TO CALCULATE.

THE FULL COST OF PORTA POTTIES WAS THAT FIGURE OF OVER 400,000.

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>> THANK YOU. I'M JUST WONDERING AND WHAT COUNCIL'S THOUGHT IS BASED ON THE COST OF PUTTING THESE THESE PORTA POTTIES.

I'M NOT SURE THAT WE CAN AFFORD TO PUT A PORTA POTTY AT EVERY PART, BUT DEFINITELY OPEN TO DISCUSSION.

WOULD WE BE ABLE TO STREAMLINE TO, MAYBE CLASS A THAT WOULD SUPPORT MORE, MAYBE SPORTS TEAMS OR BIGGER NUMBERS VERSUS A GENERAL WHOLE CLASS A, HOW BEST CAN WE BE ABLE TO MITIGATE THIS WITHOUT BLOWING THE BUDGET, THANK YOU.

>> PLEASURE. I THINK THE HIGHEST USE CLASS A PARK WOULD BE SOMBA K'E WHICH IS WHAT COUNCIL'S FUNDING TO BE OPEN TILL THE END OF THE YEAR, ESPECIALLY KELLETE, WHAT WOULD THE FIGURE B IF WE ONLY WANTED TO DO SPORTS FIELDS OR, I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE SPORTS FIELDS THAT ARE LEFT FOR THE CLASS A.

>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR AND THANKS FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MUFFIN DAYSTA.

WE HAD INCLUDED 23 OF THE PARKS, BALL FIELDS, AND PLAYGROUNDS IN THAT ARE CONSTITUTING CLASS A.

IF COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE SOLELY FOR THE SPORTS FIELDS THEMSELVES.

THERE ARE FOUR SPORTS FIELDS, TWO OF THEM ARE OWNED BY THE CITY, SO THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER.

WE WOULD NEED TO THEN HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE SCHOOL BOARDS TO SEE A IF THEY WERE WILLING AND HOW WE WOULD NAVIGATE THROUGH EVEN DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON PROPERTY THAT WE DON'T OWN, BUT WE JUST COORDINATE ON THEIR BEHALF.

WE'D CERTAINLY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THROUGH THEM.

THERE ARE OPTIONS AND I'M LOOKING AT THOSE TWO SPORTS FIELDS AND SEEING IF THOSE COSTS ARE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE, OR WHETHER OR NOT THE USER GROUPS THEMSELVES MAY HAVE AN INTEREST IN ENSURING THEIR AVAILABILITY THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER SEASON.

I'LL ASK MR. WHITE IF HE HAS ANY MORE DETAIL THAT HE'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO IN TERMS OF OUR EXPERIENCE WITH PORTA POTTIES AT SPORTS FIELDS AND HOW THAT PLAYS OUT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK MISS ASHLEY KELLETE.

SINCE MY TIME HERE WITH THE CITY, WHICH STARTED BACK IN THE MID '90S, THERE HAVE BEEN A PORTA PARTIES OR AMELIES OF SOME AT A VARIETY OF PARKS.

WHEN I FIRST STARTED, THE CITY WAS JUST IN THE MIDDLE OF REMOVING THEM ALL DUE TO VANDALISM.

THEY WERE OFTEN LIT ON FIRE AND OF COURSE, THAT CAUSES AN EXTRA STRAIN ON THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEIR SERVICE LEVELS.

>> OVER, THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANCES OR SOME OPPORTUNITIES EXPLORED BY YELLOWKNIFE SLOW PITCH, WHERE THEY HAVE PUT SOME PORTA-POTTIES OR EPORTA POTTY AT PARKER PARK.

THEY EXPERIENCE THE SAME ISSUES THAT WE DID.

THEY WERE OFTEN TARGET FOR VANDALISM AND THEY WERE OFTEN LIT ON FIRE.

WE HAVEN'T HAD A WHOLE LOT OF SUCCESS WITH THEM.

WHERE SUCCESS HAS BEEN ACHIEVED IS REALLY ON IF THERE'S A TOURNAMENT IN TOWN WHERE, THEY'RE PUTTING IT ON A SHORT-TERM BASIS, MAYBE PUT IN LIKE ON A FRIDAY MORNING AND KICKING OUT ON A MONDAY MORNING.

THEY SEEM TO NOT HAVE ATTRACTED A LOT OF ATTENTION OR NEGATIVE ATTENTION IN THAT TIME FRAME.

BUT ANY TIME THAT WE'VE HAD PORTA POTTIES PUT IN ANY OF OUR PARKS FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME, THEY HAVE ALMOST ALWAYS BECOME EITHER TIPPED OVER OR WORSE.

YOU'LL SEE THE SETUP COSTS WE HAVE, WHICH IS PRODUCING A $1,000 FOR EACH OF THEM.

THAT INCLUDES BASICALLY A CONCRETE BLOCK AND THEN SOME MECHANISM THAT WE CAN ADHERE THE PORTA-POTTY TO THEM SO THAT THEY'RE AT LEAST NOT TIPPED OVER.

BUT I MEAN, THAT'S ONLY ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT HAPPENS TO THEM.

I COULD ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.

[NOISE].

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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR, AND THANK YOU ADMINISTRATION FOR BRINGING THIS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ANSWERED WAS DEFINITELY THAT CONCRETE BLOCK TO HELP NOT TO BECAUSE MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE, WHAT CAN WE DO TO MITIGATE THIS DAMAGE? I'M JUST WONDERING IF COUNCIL WOULD BE OPEN TO EXPLORING THE SPORTS FIELDS AND POSSIBLY GO WITH

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ONE OF THE THINGS I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT IS THE STANDARD OF THE BUSH USE.

I'M DOING SPORTS AND I REALLY AM HOPING THAT WE CAN PROVIDE TO THEM AMENITIES FOR RESIDENTS THAT ARE SUPPORTING THEIR KIDS.

IT IS BEEN A VERY HARD TIME FOR EVERYBODY TO BE INDOORS AND WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE ALL THOSE OUTDOORS SPORTS WHEREVER POSSIBLE, BUT ALSO BE SUPPORTIVE BY PROVIDING THEM AMENITIES ON [NOISE] WHAT CAN WE DO.

I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WOULD SAY, BUT DEFINITELY WOULD WANT TO SEE THE $1000 OR THE CONCRETE BLOCKS ON THE BUSIER PARTS, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY BE THE SPORT FIELDS BASED ON THE BUDGET THAT WAS PRESENTED OR THE AMOUNT GIVEN TO US. THANK YOU.

>> IT'S JUST SPEAK TO MY EXPERIENCE PLAYING SOCCER ACROSS CANADA.

IT'S PRETTY COMMON THAT COMMUNITY SPORTS FIELDS DON'T HAVE WASHING FACILITIES AT THEM.

WHEN YOU GET TO THE BIG SPORTS COMPLEX IS WHERE YOU GET THE ACTUAL WASHROOM FACILITIES AND HAVING RUN SOCCER TOURNAMENTS HERE [INAUDIBLE] , UNLESS YOU FIRMLY LOCK IT UP WITH THE CHAIN AT THE END OF THE NIGHT, THEY'RE GOING TO GET TIPPED OVER.

IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'VE PUT THAT IN THE FIGURE, BUT YOU'LL NEED SOMEBODY TO LOCK THE PORTA-POTTIES UP AT 11:00 PM AND UNLOCK THEM AT 7:00 AM.

IT'S LIKE TIPPING COWS, BUT TIPPING OUTHOUSES APPEARS TO BE THE FUN ACTIVITY.

MISS BASSI KELLETT COMMENTS FROM STAFF ON CALCIUM APPENDICES POINTS.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL ASK MR. BOYD IF HE'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS.

>> THANK YOU MISS BASSI KELLETT. IN TERMS OF THE CLASS A SPORTS FACILITIES THAT OUR GUESTS OR CITY-OWNED.

PARKER PARK WOULD BE ONE AREA.

THE SPORTS FIELD ADJACENT TO ST. JOE'S IS ANOTHER AREA AND THEN THE GREEN AREA, THE SPORTS FIELD THAT IS ADJACENT TO THE PHYSIO BALL DIAMONDS.

THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE WOULD HAVE EASILY ACCESS TO AND AS MISS BASSI KELLETT MENTIONED, WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DIVISIONS ON PROVIDING ANY AMENITIES AT IT WOULD BE THE RANGE LAKE, NORTH FIELD.

THE WORLY MAC FIELD IS UNSERVICEABLE RIGHT NOW.

IT MAY NOT BE UP AND RUNNING FOR THIS YEAR.

I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. BUT WE'D HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE COSTS FOR THOSE THREE.

I MIGHT BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO YOU WITHIN A SHORT TIME WITH THE CLASS FOR THREE PARKS.

WE WENT THROUGH OUR CALCULATIONS AND WE DID FOR ALL OF CLASS A PARKS EARLIER MENTIONED. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN PENDOZA.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.

I WANTED TO SPEAK TO YOUR POINT AND YES, I GREW UP IN A LOT OF SPORTS TEAMS AND DEFINITELY I'M FAMILIAR WITH NOT HAVING MUSHROOMS. HOWEVER, I THINK WE'RE IN A VERY EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE WASHROOMS ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE.

GROWING UP, MY BROTHER WAS IN RUGBY AND WE WOULD GO ALL OVER CANADA.

WE COULD QUICKLY GO TO SUBWAY AND MCDONALD'S WHENEVER THEY WANTED TO USE THE WASHROOM DURING BREAK, OR AFTER SPORTS, BUT RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE WASHROOMS DUE TO COVID US LOOKING AT IT FROM TODAY'S PERSPECTIVE OF THINGS HAVE REALLY CHANGED BASED ON COVID, WE CAN NO LONGER RUN TO THE NEXT RESTAURANT, BUY A BURGER SO THAT I CAN USE THE WASHROOM.

I THINK DEFINITELY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN REDUCING THE COST THAT WAS PUT UP THERE.

I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THE REST OF COUNCIL WOULD SAY BASED ON TODAY'S EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCE. THANK YOU.

>> FOR SURE. COUNCIL WILLIAMS.

>> JUST IN RESPONSE TO A COUNCIL WOMAN PENDOZA, DEFINITELY.

I'M NOT NECESSARILY IN SUPPORT OF LOOKING AT THE WHOLE 23 PROPERTIES.

BUT AS THIS CONVERSATION IS DEVELOPING INTO FACILITIES AND FIELDS, THAT'S SOMETHING I COULD CERTAINLY BE INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT SUPPORTING.

AGAIN, DEPEND ON WHAT GRANT COMES BACK WITH.

MAYBE I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

JUST DOING THE SIMPLE MATH OF COURSE, 75 BY 23 TOILETS, LOOKS LIKE A COST OF ABOUT WHAT, $20,000 PER TOILET FOR THE YEAR?

>> MISS BASSI KELLETT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, 4836 PER UNIT PER MONTH.

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>> THE STAFF TIMES NOT INCLUDED IN THAT 475 PLUS 749 HOURS A WEEK.

THAT'S AN ADDITION TO THE 475, CORRECT? [OVERLAPPING]

>> I'M CERTAINLY HERE TO LISTEN AND TO PARTICIPATE.

I'M NOT A HARD NO AT THIS POINT.

BUT DEFINITELY NOT FOR THE LARGE NUMBERS BUT DEFINITELY TAKING A LOOK AT SOME OF THE FIELDS THAT WE DO HAVE HIGH USAGE ON THAT OUR CITY FACILITIES.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I COULD BE CONVINCED TO SUPPORT.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I'LL ADD MISS [INAUDIBLE] THE 749 HOURS OR WEEKS.

I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO HIRE AT LEAST TWO SUMMER STUDENTS TO JUST ROTATE THROUGH AND CLEAN THE PORTA-POTTIES.

THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS, HAVE WE INCLUDED STAFF TIME TO OPEN UP THE PORTA-POTTIES AT 7:00 AM AND LOCK THEM UP AT 11:00 PM?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR? I'LL ASK MR. BOYD IF HE COULD SPEAK TO THAT.

>> THANK YOU. THE TOTAL HOURS THAT WE'VE SEEN FOR THE STAFF TIME INCLUDES BASICALLY FROM SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING TO 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.

THE AMOUNT OF STAFF WE WOULD NEED BY OUR CALCULATIONS IS UP TO ABOUT 13 IF WE DO THE MATH ON EIGHT HOURS PER SHIFT.

SORRY. ONE THING THAT WE DIDN'T INCLUDE AND ONLY BECAUSE IT'S NOT MOLTEN RIGHT NOW.

I WOULD ALSO HAVE TO CONSIDER VEHICLES.

WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE HOW MANY VEHICLES WE'RE GOING TO GET FROM THE CITY FLEET FOR OUR FIRST SUMMER PARKS.

BASICALLY WE'VE RENTED VEHICLES IN THE PAST FOR SOME OF OUR FUNCTIONS AND WE'LL TALK TO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT AGAIN AS LAW. THANK YOU.

>> WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD IF WE DROP THIS DOWN TO FROM 23 TO FOUR LOCATIONS, WE PROBABLY HAVE TO ADD FOUR STAFF AT ABOUT $15,000 EACH FOR THE SUMMER ITS PRACTICAL.

IS THAT THE SUMMER STUDENTS RATE?

>> FULLY BURDEN FOR FOUR MONTHS FOR THE WORK IS ABOUT 20,000. THANK YOU.

>> PROBABLY 80,000 AND STOP COSTS PLUS 90,000 IN RENTALS AND ADDITIONAL COSTS.

WE'D BE LOOKING AT A 170,000 THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO CUT FROM ONE OF THE OTHER AREAS TO ADD THE THREE OR FOUR PORTA- POTTIES.

THIS BASICALLY WOULD COST ABOUT TO REVISE THESE FIGURES BY THE END OF TODAY AND CIRCULATE WITH COUNCIL BEFORE THE MEETING.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE INCLUDE THE STAFF TIME OF HOW MANY SUMMER STUDENTS WOULD HAVE TO BE HIRED TO DO THIS SO THAT COUNCIL HAS THE FULL FIGURE TO KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO REDUCE OTHER LINE ITEMS.

>> CERTAINLY, WE CAN PROVIDE THE INFORMATION COMPARING 23 LOCATIONS TO FOUR LOCATIONS BEFORE COUNCIL THIS EVENING. THANK YOU.

>> THEN IF WE GO BACK TO THE OTHER SLIDE, MISS WOODYATT.

IF IT DOES COME UP TO ABOUT A 170,000, WILL HAVE TO CUT FROM ONE OF THESE AREAS TO REALLOCATE TO THE PORTA-POTTIES AT THE SPORTS FIELDS.

IF COUNCILS COME BACK WITH AN AMENDMENT. MISS BASSI KELLETT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH MADAM CHAIR.

I WILL JUST MAKE THE SUGGESTION THAT IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL'S SERIOUSLY DOES WANT TO CONSIDER, THIS MAY BE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE AN ALTERNATIVE TO ENSURING THE FUNDING FOR THIS COULD BE THAT THIS IS ADDED TO FACE AND CHALLENGES FOR USE THOSE SPORTS FIELDS.

I'LL JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCIL MULPENDIZA.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.

I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE HOW BEST WE CAN RESOLVE THIS OR PUT FORWARD.

I'M JUST WONDERING UNDER THE BUSINESS RELIEF FUNDING,

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THEN MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC LIKE OF SPORTS TEAMS HAVE ACCESS TO WASHROOMS CLOSER TO THE FIELDS.

IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT BECAUSE ABOUT 170,000 GOING AS BUSINESS RELIEF AND HELPING BUSINESSES TO CLEAN THOSE WASHROOMS. COULD THAT BE A POSSIBILITY?

>> WE DO HAVE A PROGRAM THAT DOES PROVIDE SOME FUNDING TO BUSINESSES IF THEY DO OPEN UP THEIR WASHROOMS TO THE PUBLIC.

THAT'S AVAILABLE, WHETHER IT'S COVID OR NOT.

MISS BASSI KELLETT, WILL YOU BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT PROGRAM.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH MADAM CHAIR.

YES ABSOLUTELY.

WHEN WE LAUNCHED THE OUTDOOR PORTIO PROGRAM IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WE ALSO EXPANDED THAT TO BUSINESS TO INCENTIVIZE ANY BUSINESS THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED OR AMENABLE TO MAKING THEIR WASHROOM AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AND NOT JUST TO THEIR CLIENTS THAT WERE COMING IN.

WE PUT THAT OUT THERE.

I FORGET THE EXACT AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WE'VE PROVIDED.

BUT WHAT WE FOUND WAS VERY LOW UPTAKE ON THAT.

I THINK SWISS RESTAURANT WAS ONE.

CERTAINLY WE MAKE ALL CITY FACILITIES DURING THEIR OPENING HOURS WHEN THEY ARE OPEN, OF COURSE MULTIPLEX, FIELD HOUSE POOL ETC.

THERE IS THE AVAILABILITY OF THOSE WASHROOMS AS WELL.

BUT THE PROGRAM ITSELF DIDN'T GET THE GREATEST UPTAKE.

THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF BUSINESSES THAT WERE INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT THEY COULD PROVIDE THAT TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

I'LL ASK MISS SHEILA IF SHE RECALLS ANYMORE DETAIL ON THE PROGRAM.

>> I'LL CORRECT THAT WITHIN A LARGE UPTAKE.

I BELIEVE THE ONLY OTHER ONE WAS AT THE TIME, GAIA, WHICH IS NOW JENIFFER HEALTH.

THE CONCERN I WOULD HAVE WITH NEARLY THING WE DIDN'T TEND TO BUY WITH BUSINESSES IS THERE ARE PRIVATE BUSINESSES AND WE CAN'T REQUIRE THEM TO OPEN THEIR BATHROOM TO THE PUBLIC.

THEY COULD HAVE DIFFERING HOURS OF OPERATION FROM WHEN THINGS ARE TAKING PLACE IN THE FIELD THERE PARKS AND WE COULD TRY TO COME UP WITH INTENSIVE PROGRAM.

BUT AGAIN WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THEY'LL BE ANY SUCCESSFUL UPTAKE.

IT ALSO NOT SOMETHING WE'VE HEARD FROM THE MY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AS A WAY TO PROVIDE BUSINESS RELIEF WITH RESPECT TO COVID.

THEY DO HAVE A BOARD MEETING TOMORROW.

IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT KELLETE AND COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE INVESTIGATED, I CAN GO TO THE CHAMBER AND LET US KNOW HOW THEIR MEMBERS FEEL ABOUT IT.

BUT IT'S JUST CONCERNING BECAUSE THEY ARE PRIVATE BUSINESSES AND WE CAN'T MAKE THEM DO IT AND I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT THE UPTAKE WOULD BE ANY BETTER AT THIS TIME BECAUSE IT ALSO WOULD BE A CONSIDERATION FOR THEM WITH RESPECT TO COVID, NUMBER OF MEMBERS IN THEIR FACILITY.

SOME OF THE BUSINESSES SAY FOR EXAMPLE, [INAUDIBLE] THEY'RE SMALL AND THIGH.

HOW WOULD THEY CONTROL THAT? IT CAN BE POTENTIALLY CLOTHING THEIR EMPLOYEE TO INCREASE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND INTERACTIONS INCREASED EXPOSURE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STANDARD THEY'D WANT TO TAKE ON ANY MORE COMPLICATION OR APPLIED TO THE CPA TOOL FOR ANY ORDER OR EXEMPTION.

THERE'LL BE A LOT MORE WORK TO PUT IN TO THAT BEFORE WE COULD SAY IT'S A VIABLE SOLUTION OR NOT.

I THINK THAT MY THOUGHT TURNOUT.

>>THANK YOU. ANY AMOUNTS.

FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS A YEAR AND IF BUSINESSES ARE INTERESTED, IF YOU GO TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

UNDER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES WEB PAGE, THEY'VE GOT THE APPLICATION FORM THAT PEOPLE CAN SIGN UP FOR THE PROGRAM.

THAT'S THE MOVEMENT. I SAID DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. NO, I DON'T.

THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTION.

ADMINISTRATION. BASED ON THE INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT'S A VIABLE SOLUTION AT THIS TIME.

NOW I DON'T THINK I WOULD WANT TO REQUEST FOR MORE INFORMATION OR WORK TO BE PUT IN IT IF WE'VE ALREADY REALIZED THAT IT IS NOT VIABLE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? SEEING NONE. STAFF WILL CIRCULATE THOSE UPDATED NUMBERS FOR JUST THE THREE OR FOUR FIELDS DEPENDING UP SORRY, I DID HERE MR. WAVE SAY THAT WILLIAM MOCK MIGHT NOT BE AN OPTION AS YOU REFER PORTA-POTTY.

WHAT WILL BE COMING FORWARD IS THAT FAR COLUMN AND COUNCILS OF COURSE CAN MAKE AN AMENDMENT IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO REDUCE ANY AND REALLOCATE TO A DIFFERENT PROJECT.

>> WITH THAT SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, COUNCIL CONGA, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME BACK.

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[In Camera]

ANYBODY OPPOSED? SEEING NONE.

WE CAN GO IN CAMERA. SEE YOU IN A FEW SECONDS.

>> QUARREL ME?

>> PERFECT.

>> COMING BACK FROM IN CAMERA, BUSINESS ARISING IS TO APPOINT GEORGINA LORDS TO THE CITY WE ALL LIVE DEVELOPMENT APPEAL BOARD AND THAT WILL COME FORWARD TO COUNCIL TONIGHT AT 7:00 PM.

WITH THAT THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER.

MOTION TO ADJOURN MOVED BY COUNCIL WILLIAMS MORRIS.

THERE WE GO. ANYBODY OPPOSED? SEEING NON. SEE YOU EVERYBODY AT 7:00 PM TONIGHT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.